#it was so blatantly obvious with out everyone threw the idea of subtext and coding out the window

[redysetdare]

It's all "you guys need to understand how SUBTEXT and CODING are usually the only confirmation of representation queer people get in media especially in older media" but once that subtext and coding is used to say a character might be aro or ace coded/have aro/ace subtext then suddenly it's not a valid way to claim representation. Then it's only "headcanon" or "not confirmed" like do you all hear yourselves? It'd be so much easier to say you hate aro/ace ppl at this rate!

[dreorzen]

#'thats not what the creator intended' when has that ever stopped queer ppl from finding queer rep?

#its just obvious a lot of queer ppl dont include aro and ace ppl as queer

#it was so blatantly obvious with out everyone threw the idea of subtext and coding out the window

#when it came to ppl complaining abt riverdale erasing jugheads aroace identity

#suddenly subtext and coding didnt matter when it was an aroace character

#suddenly 'different iterations always change the characters sexuality! there is no canon!'

#and it only happened to shut up aro and ace ppl who were rightfully upset

#that our identities were thrown to the curb on one of our only representation in medua

not letting these get lost in the tags

and more importantly, on the subject of jughead specifically - it's not JUST subtext. In at least one pre-Riverdale run (albeit a more modern one) it is explicitly stated that Jughead is ace:

and i'm not sure if being aro was ever stated as explicitly as that, but this goes a little further than mere subtext"

"you're asexual" - stated as a fact, not disputed by jughead. he is ace and out about it. "I don't get crushes" - very aromantic of him, could never imagine an allo person saying that, not even to avoid being called out on a crush

It's not just subtext and coding that didn't matter to these people. It's doing their research, and the existence of aro and ace people entirely.

It's all "you guys need to understand how SUBTEXT and CODING are usually the only confirmation of representation queer people get in media especially in older media" but once that subtext and coding is used to say a character might be aro or ace coded/have aro/ace subtext then suddenly it's not a valid way to claim representation. Then it's only "headcanon" or "not confirmed" like do you all hear yourselves? It'd be so much easier to say you hate aro/ace ppl at this rate!