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this was the worst thing to ever happen to me. they don't get it. it was never about his dad.
#i hate that they tried to say jamie's skill was due to the abuse he faced because he was this good because his mom supported him.#it was never about his dad#it was always about georgie#jamie tartt#mine
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it’s a horror tragedy. people are mean and uncharitable and impatient with him and don’t give him the benefit of the doubt because he is the protagonist of a horror tragedy. u are supposed to think it is tragic. dare i say u are supposed to be horrified.
#i didnt say a name but u still thought of him didnt u.#to be clear this is not in direct response to a specific post or occurrence it’s just a long term annoyance#and like! to be fair! u don’t have to like tma BECAUSE it’s a horror story. heck like it in spite of that if that’s ur taste#but there are certain conventions and plot/story features that are going to be present#and it’s not because [melanie/georgie/basira/martin] is being necessarily unreasonable#it’s almost always because he is a horror protag. bad things happen to him because technically speaking that is what we are here to#forgive the phrasing#bear witness to#anyway im not tryna attack anyone or suggest anything be Done about this it’s just a thought ive had knocking around
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I know it was meant to be a joke, but it kind of breaks my heart that S2 Jamie thinks the best way to make friends is to buy all his teammates PS5s. The way his logoc
Like he really thinks his likeability is tied to his talent, money and looks. The way he says what better thing to spend money on than love just screams to me low self value.
I really think he struggled to make friends his whole life and most of the people who came in his life like him for his talent, star potential and what he could do for them.
Which means when Zava comes along in season 3 he probably legit thought he was going to lose all his friends. Now, they didn't need him on the pitch. So now I just want to give him a great big hug.
His S3 storyline really helps him learn what true friendship is.
#jamie tartt#not sure his known unconditional love oytside Georgie and Simon#when you grow up with your skill being the most impressive thing about you#you end up not knowing how to make friends#ted lasso#ted lasso meta#always thinking about Jamie#S3 Jamie most likely thought he was gonna lose all his friends now too#i headcanon his self worth issues
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GEORGE PHOTOS!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU OMG
#literally so perfect#and when I draw George as a saint or smth using these photos…#what about it#genuinely I feel like I have no photos saved of anyone but Alonso#which makes sense but I’m always like????#my ref folder is Seb jenson button and Alonso#oh Georgie…….#love him dearly#user gaynfl I’m kissing u on the forehead rn#george russell 63#george russell#reference#reference pic#ask anni
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Georgie sounds like she may be without a Melanie and I am devastated.
#i truly dont know how i feel about her becoming a bigger character here#like okay it makes sense for celia's story that shed want to keep an eye on georgie#but introducing a canon alternate universe doppelganger for such a major character...#idk. i want to trust jonny and alex on this one but that trope is always iffy ground for me#i feel like the main 8 - jonmartintimsashabasiradaisymelaniegeorgie - should be off limits#idk. i need to sit with it for a bit.#the magnus protocol#tmagp spoilers#my magnus protocol stuff#original post#18 solo work#queue cause i'll be at work when the episode airs#georgie tmagp#<- switching over to a new way of tagging duplicates#i want to keep them separate from the archives' characters
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Unstoppable force vs immovable object my want to talk about my AUs VS. I DONT WANNA SPOIL
Anyways whatever heres the pitch. Eye!Melanie and Stranger!Elias. Melanie and Elias' vibes are absolutely IMMACULATE methinks. Anyways they're siblings. Or were. In the 1800's. Both have been body hopping since then. They get together every 20 or so years and terrorise the populace.
Role reversal hhhhng.... Melanie founded the Institute for the Eye. The current Archivist? Sasha James no shut up it works. Sasha has been at it for too long and has seen too much to get tricked into being marked. Melanie has to find someone else to take the marks. Enters Annabelle Cane. Naive, marked by the Web, just joined the institute. Woah. Melanie now has to dispose of Sasha to get her new, better shiny archivist in place. Sasha will not fucking die.
The AU is named Stranger Danger
#if this looks like the Frankenstein monster of aus thats because it is#as always...... talk about my stuff with me and i will literally catch and cook my firstborn for you#featuring..........#hunt!nikola#web!jon#dead!martin#desolation!tim (i don't know how i'm gonna write that one yet)#VILLAIN!GEORGIE#(yes there is some whatthegirlfriends action going on)#melanie king#sasha james#AAAAAH#elias bouchard#jonah magnus#annabelle cane#tma#the magnus archives#magpod#tma au#klm-zoflorr#stranger danger AU
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#welcome home#welcome home project#welcome home oc#Wow Was I unmotivated for about 3 weeks...#I was feeling a little unsatisfied?(if that's the correct term to use) with my oc Freddie.#I always wanted to redesign him but never got around to it.#I gave their hair more depth; changed up his face and added a little plaid to their clothes.#And now I feel better about him(might redesign Georgie on the side as well)#Side note: I keep forgetting he's a red head and I always get surprised when I go to get his colours
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i headcanon that celia doesn't remember a lot of what happened in the tma universe. mainly because we never get a full explanation on what her name being taken by the spiral (im assuming) means for her memory, but its kind of implied her memories of her life are gone as (considering she didnt recognise martin), and i think that being transported to an alternate universe would fuck up your head a little. she knows the world ended, and that the magnus institute played a role in it, but apart from that the finer details are... fuzzy, to say the least
But when she sees those names, those two names that should mean nothing to her whatsoever, but somehow she knows all too well, she remembers... something. flashes of conversations. two figures walking along the horizon, just as protected from the horrors as her prophets. someone, more monster than man, looking for the man he loved. maybe something naive like hope. and the indescribable feeling like she was being watched, and known
and in that moment she feels all too seen
#i wanna know more about georgie and melanies cult#what was it like for them#what happened to them#the eyepocalypse you will always be famous to me#the magnus protocol#tmagp#celia ripley#tmagp spoilers#the magnus archives
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I worked on this piece for something that didn’t end up happening but I still wanted to post it!!
#it was a piece about Mike and Bill visiting Georgie’s grave#mike was the only one that visited#Mike also always puts flowers on Georgie’s grave#the losers club#it stephen king#bill denbrough#mike hanlon#it chapter two art#my art#Mike hanlon and bill denbrough#halonbrough
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Completely irrelevant, incredibly specific headcanons I have for certain TMA characters
Rosie: Uses margarine instead of butter.
Daisy: Doesn't turn the volume up in multiples of 5.
Martin: Hates that seam inside the toes of socks that kinda digs in sometimes.
Melanie: Always has a bottle or can of fizzy drink around.
Jon: Has a thing about the quality of paper.
Elias: Rhythmically taps the tip of his toe on the ground whilst waiting.
Basira: Likes notebooks.
Georgie: Has pink headphones.
Sasha: Always wears boots that click on the floor.
Tim: Ties his shoelaces weirdly.
#I don't know where most of these came from but they're SO real to me...#Just makes sense yknow? There's some things about people that just feel like they should be... These are them#I just always think about how they're full and real people outside of the archive and I yearn to know every detail#tma#the magnus archives#the magnus institute#jonathan sims#martin blackwood#rosie zampano#sasha james#tim stoker#elias bouchard#basira hussain#daisy tonner#georgie barker#melanie king#tma headcanons
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It's my boy. He has returned
#oh gerry#hearing him happy is just agjhkajlfsdlk#also gertrude as his grandmother#she cares about him and always has but in this universe she succeded in burning down the institue so now she actually can care for him#instead of focusing on the fears#and they get to be happy#he gets to be happy#he paints#i just know shes going to try and stop him from getting involved with everything#and i have the feeling that shes going to fail#gerry keay#gertrude robinson#also the georgie mention#but as someone with gerry keay tattoos i feel obligated to talk about him#(i mean i'm also a little obsseed with him)#tmagp#the magnus protocol#tmagp 8#tmagp spoilers
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i love your takes on jamie and really want to know your thoughts on jamie’s “i’m flattered” when everyone was looking at him in the dressing room (if you haven’t talked about it before). like why does everyone think he’s the other gay in the room! why is he so cute and gives the perfect response to them speculating!
Thank you!!!!
Personally, I imagine that Jamie is bisexual and chooses not to come out to his larger circle because he just doesn't want to deal with it. The people closest to him know, and he doesn't care whether other people know or not. He's never sat down with the team and told them that he likes men, but he also checks Grindr in the locker room and doesn't really care if they notice yk. I think this is sort of in line with the way he said he wouldn't have sex with Beard because he's "not his type"-- he's not going to do a press conference talking about being bi or anything like that, it's just part of who he is and it comes up from time to time and people can make of that what they want.
So with that in mind I'd say his teammates probably think he's the ~other gay~ because of some combination of homophobic stereotypes they've absorbed from their hypermasculine environment (Jamie is notoriously a 'pretty boy' who is very invested in his appearance & spends a lot of time on personal grooming, for example, which is something a lot of straight men associate with gay men) and things Jamie has said/done in the past that indicate his bisexuality.
As for why he responded that way, I think he was actually a little uncomfortable being put on the spot like that in front of the entire team:
and didn't want to tell them he isn't gay, because he is (sort of) and he isn't trying to hide it, but at the same time that was a very tense and (again) uncomfortable situation and I'm sure that's not how he wanted to be outed to his entire workplace. So he chose to respond ambiguously instead of confirming or denying
#ask#jamie tartt#I've always thought Jamie is more comfortable in his sexuality than most ppl believe him to be.#I sincerely doubt georgie ever gave him a hard time about it at all and I think that was probably a huge mitigating factor against his dad
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thinking about georgie's table full of jamie photos again.
#sorry im thinking so hard about it it's making me. Feel yk#my dad has pictures of me and my siblings all over the house#like there is not one place you could be standing in that apartment and not see pictures of me and my siblings#he's always been a big photo taker of us and loves getting pictures of us ygm#and i Think. it's bc growing up there weren't really a ton of pictures of him and his siblings#bc film was expensive and cameras were expensive and everything Cost Money they Didn't Have#but in the era his kids were born (late 90s-early 00s) suddenly cameras were becoming digital#suddenly you didn't have to pay an arm and a leg to have Physical Evidence of your kids growing up#and i know georgie is younger than my dad but i think the circumstances are similar#she didn't have much money but Photos Of Jamie were important to her#and as jamie grew up taking pictures became more and more accessible by the day#i think it was very much a case of she'd sacrifice most things but she Has Evidence of Her Baby growing up With Her#idk sorry about this long personal ramble in the tags ive had A Day can you tell
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things aren’t going well with peach. while i think my dad’s very right to be concerned that she hasn’t eaten anything in nearly 60 hours (obviously i am too), im becoming increasingly concerned that she hasn’t slept at all in around 36 hours and prior to that she was under anaesthetic, which isn’t exactly restful, so it’s closer to 48 hrs
like dad took her back to the vet today and we’ve got injections for her painkillers now because she’s not eating, and also injections for fluids (because she doesn’t drink; she only gets water from her food), so the not eating is Bad but also kinda under management, but if she doesn’t sleep soon i’m extremely worried. dad was like ‘if she doesn’t eat by tomorrow afternoon we’ll take her back because the injections will run out’ but like. if she doesn’t sleep tonight we have GOT to take her back first thing in the morning so they can sedate her or something
#her pain doesn’t seem to be too bad now that she’s got pain relief so idk what’s stopping her from sleeping#she won’t even lie down unless i’m sitting next to her. she just sits there staring out the window#her pupils are also taking up her entire eyes and have been all day#that’ll be a side effect of the medication and maybe the lack of sleep? but it won’t be making her feel any better#she can probably barely see at this point#like imagine you’ve been awake for 2 days after surgery and you’re in a lot of pain and haven’t eaten since before surgery#and are also on strong painkillers. and you also have no idea what’s wrong with you or why everyone’s doing things that hurt you#bruh your brain would be COOKED. there’s no way she has any idea what’s going on rn but she’s clearly feeling terrible#personal#like i think she’ll be ok in the long-term but she’s gotta somehow get through all these immediate issues#last time something like this happened she stopped drinking and never started again#not eating or sleeping don’t have workarounds as simple as putting water in her food#it really doesn’t help that there’s so much other shit going on rn#i’m doing a whole bunch of stuff with my phone and computer that’s taking a lot of work#but also my sister’s going on a long overseas trip that she’s leaving for tomorrow#so the combo of dad and sister coming and going constantly and also like 6 random deliveries for tech stuff in the last 2 days—#has the dogs really wound up. so georgie’s been howling at absolutely everything#and it’s rainy so my clothes aren’t trying and they’re hanging on a rack hooked on the hallway door so the door can’t close#which puts one less door between my room and the dogs so they’re waking me up every time anything happens#and i sleep during the day so that’s ALL THE TIME. i’ve had like 8 hrs of sleep between the last two afternoons#my sister always has so much random life stuff she wants to talk about and was getting really annoyed that i wasn’t very receptive#like ‘im about to go away for 3 months’ sorry i know its a big thing but i can’t just reschedule peach’s medical emergency
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what are your headcanons about tartt sr’s abuse? did it start when jamie was a teenager? was he always physically violent with jamie and maybe georgie too?
the s3 the finale is so disrespectful to georgie now that i think about it
Hi! This ones not super easy to answer because i think the show leaves the specifics largely up for interruption. My own thoughts on it are all over the map (and often change). I can basically see a lot of different avenues to getting to what we see play out in Man City, and I've seen a lot of differing thoughts on this topic; to be honest I find myself nodding along to most all of them even though all of them could definitely not coexist in the same universe, lol. So this is far from set in stone in my mind but here are my (once again quite long oops) general thoughts on how it might have gone (obviously TW for discussion of abuse below the cut):
the abuse canonically did start when Jamie was a teenager, because we know the Amsterdam trip happened when he was 14; whether the abuse also took the form of physical violence at that age I'm less certain, but I lean towards the bulk of that coming later. At this stage James was still in his "Stand Up Father" routine
I think the early relationship when James Tartt Sr. first came back into Jamie's life would've been a lot of false promises and the "Fun Dad" shtick Jamie describes when talking about Amsterdam. We also know James tried to get Georgie back at least once, and the way I interpreted the tone in which that was said was that the trip was neither the first nor the last time that happened. I kind of headcanon that James was in and out of rehab during that time, swearing to do better, making the same mistakes, rinse and repeat
Jamie's thoughts on James were a jumble of juxtapositions. James could always sweet-talk getting them an extra scoop of ice cream for free at the shop, he took Jamie to City matches and showed up all the time with cool or expensive gifts his mum could never afford - official kits and the like. He taught Jamie "life skills" like picking locks and petty crime tricks that, to a 12 year old were fucking cool! On the other hand he was also taking Jamie to pubs and making him try beer when he was like, 12 or 13. He made Jamie hang out with him and his friends - who were crude and brash and kind of scary. He arranged for Jamie to lose his virginity in Amsterdam because it was "past time for him to grow up and be a man."
All of those latter things made Jamie at best uncomfortable, but they were always balanced by the fun stuff. The good stuff. The problem was he never knew which version of his dad he was going to get on any given day, so he could never prepare for it.
I think the physical violence started off "small" - shaking his shoulder aggressively, keeping an ironclad grip on the back of Jamie's neck, etc. When he hit Jamie the first time he showed up the next day with a grand apology. He always used "getting too drunk" as his excuse and said "it won't happen again" and Jamie always believed him until the next time, because it really didn't happen that often, and anyway the bruises were never anything he couldn't keep hidden from Mummy and the teachers at school.
there were maybe one or two "Bad Times" when James "lost control" (in his own later words) and got Very Violent with Jamie whilst he was still a teenager. These are the times when Jamie learned how to hide substantial injuries and bruises from his team, his coaches, etc. and stared at his Roy Kent hoping by some miracle for the man to come out of it and save him.
I also think this is an instance where a young Jamie might have ~fought back~ and/or purposely said things to provoke his father, only to then have the resulting beat-down framed as a "punishment" by James, which scared him shitless (because canon Jamie does not seem afraid of most anything, but he is definitely terrified of his dad and that came from somewhere) and effectively prevented him fighting back in future. These occasions very much stand out as formative in his memory because the violence was so not constant at that time; the biggest thing to me is that James was incredibly inconsistent and that was part of his manipulation. Jamie started wondering if he was somehow at fault for the abuse, if it was his failure to be good that caused his dad to hurt him.
"say goodnight son..." when he goes to kill Beard with a lead pipe sure says a lot. I think that level of beating on Jamie and physically abusing him really began when Jamie was an adult playing for Man City. Both before he comes to Richmond and after he is sent back to Manchester in s1. He "restrained" himself during the season, to keep Jamie fit enough to play. But the off season has been a historically bad time for Jamie.
this is the timeframe where I think Jamie has a very tense relationship with his mother and isn't really talking to her about anything, let alone James. The distance between them started when he was teenager keeping secrets, worsened when she began things with Simon, and are by this point at an all time low, and he's fallen back on his father, spending more time with him than ever. He's essentially isolated himself from any support system and this is when things are really very Bad.
As for Georgie -
yes, i do imagine she also suffered from James abuse, though I don't think the abuse would have looked exactly the same for her as for Jamie
I think the bulk of it was emotional/verbal abuse. I can very much see James yammering on about he'd "never hit a woman." meanwhile he's spewing constant vitriol about her, calling her a bad mother, calling her slurs, and of course beating on their kid. But (in his warped brain) slapping Jamie around isn't the same as slapping Georgie around, because Jamie should be "able to take it" and "be a man." Just all kinds of ickiness exuding from that man.
"your father is never, ever going to change" is definitely the consensus (to me) of a woman who has been deeply manipulated by James in past and let down herself by his false promises. i would not be surprised if she HAD gotten back together with James once when Jamie was a teenager and he was on a longer sobriety stint from rehab.
I do think Georgie knew on some level that Jamie was being abused but I also really believe she did not realize the full extent. Jamie kept secrets from her (Amsterdam included). Georgie sensed there were secrets, but didn't poke into them, in part because of her own james-related trauma and in part for paralyzing fear of what she'd find if she looked deeper. It was easier to believe Jamie was still telling her only truths. So she comforted him the best ways she knew how, and she did her best to limit the time Jamie spent with James, but Jamie adamantly always wanted to see his dad, and she had to work so often and couldn't always be around to monitor him, and what was she to do, in the end?
Jamie does tell Georgie all of it after they repair their relationship circa/post s2/s3, and the resulting bond is stronger than ever.
#i think it is telling that jamie lets ted's advice in Mom City override his mother's#for the record I think his mother is right. and I think jamie does know she's right. but he still can't bring himself to act on her advice.#because if he does then it's really over and he's always going to have a shit dad and that's never going to change ever#if he follows ted's advice though...well there's still a chance isn't there?#and the part of him that is still 13 watching a City game with his Dad and his Dad let him get any snacks he wanted! any at all!#and they're laughing! and his Dad is telling him that's gonna be him down there one day on the pitch and his voice is all pride.#yeah...that part of Jamie. That part of him still wants to believe in that chance.#which is tragic but also says something about how resilient and inherently hopeful Jamie is.#jamie tartt#james tartt sr.#georgie tartt#asks#tw abuse#tw child abuse#ted lasso
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I think everyone blaming the spinoff for Young Sheldon being different is only doing so because it is easier to blame the spinoff than the natural consequence of the show being in its SEVENTH SEASON… having to work quickly after the writers strike/actors strike… and the simple fact that until George buys the farm, Sheldon is basically at his final development point already and all his real development can be found in his very popular series that we saw already.
#young Sheldon#I cannot let chat know I fw Young Sheldon#and yet…#listen I am a Georgie and Mandy truther they are my favorite characters -#but also did you guys miss when the show was SCRAMBLING last season to give Sheldon shit to do#this is not a S7 problem#it’s just more notable now#this has been a bit of an issue for a while#it’s why they doubled down on the family#and for the record unless this episode (that I haven’t seen yet)#changes the count desperately#I think Meemaw still has the most meaningful screentime this season#like do Georgie and Mandy suddenly start getting stuff to do? Yeah -#but they basically were background until Episode 6#like think about this - REALLY remember - I know it’s hard bc S7 is short and kinda boring#but they had basically NO screentime until their wedding plot kicked off#I’d say the first three episodes were Mary and Sheldon heavy#with consistent Meemaw focus#that’s why - Meemaw is basically the one character always in some focus in these final episodes#where as I think Georgie and Mandy get like four couple scenes in five episodes that last about a minute or so#Sheldon took a backseat for the wedding but still had a big character reveal - then we see his college choices#that’s about all you CAN do with him until George dies.
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