#it takes place during the time gap between spider-man homecoming and infinity war and is 100% canon compliant

[lbigreyhound13]

BESTIEEE!! Tell me more about Many Adventures!! What inspired you to write it? Is there any fun plots or details you haven’t been able to add to it that you’d like to one day? LOVE YOUU

THANK YOU, BESTIE!!!!! LOVE YOU TOO!!! And OMG!!! I would love to talk about Many Adventures! Here we go!!

Okay, so, in regards to how I got the idea, I had gotten into Iron Dad after I saw Infinity War with my ex-boyfriend not too long before Endgame came out, and after I saw THE HUG in Endgame, I was even more hooked. So of course I got sucked into the Iron Dad tag on Tumblr and fanfiction. And I think I was scrolling through Tumblr one day and saw a post talking about how cool it would've been to have a limited series (it had to have been when Wandavision and Falcon and Winter Soldier were announced or something, I don't remember) centering around Tony and Peter and have it take place between Homecoming and Infinity War. And I was in love with the idea because I loved the idea of getting more Iron Dad content and having RDJ come back as Tony and really exploring how Tony and Peter went from that awkward not-a-hug in Homecoming to Peter gripping onto Tony like a lifeline in Infinity War. Although, I knew it would be close to impossible, so...I think I pretty much decided I would try to tackle that concept but of course as fanfiction.

I did some researching in regards to analyses about the relationship and the characters and the timeline of that 2-year-gap between Homecoming and Infinity War and saw that it worked. I had read a Big Time Rush fic called When We Were Young and was already working on a fic for my OC called The First 21 Years of Grey Bergman. So I was already familiar with this concept of each chapter taking place over the course of a certain period of time. I planned it out in my Notes app in my phone and began to write it. Thus on June 27, 2019, I posted the first chapter of The Many Adventures of Iron Dad and Spider Son on FF.net and then on AO3 as well in February 2020. Also, as a bonus, I got the idea for the title from The Many Adventures of Winnie-the-Pooh. I have no shame! LOL! So, yeah, that's pretty much what inspired me to write it.

As for plots and details I haven't been able to add but would like to, ooooo, that's a good question. I do have a few!

I would love to show more of Tony and Peter training as heroes together. In a recent chapter, I have them agree to train more together as Iron Man and Spider-Man for when the aliens would come back.

Another idea I had is Tony and Peter being trapped in a freezer together. I got that idea from the show Castle. So, if I can find a way to make that happen, I would love to do that.

I also would love to do a chapter where Peter is so distraught because he wasn't able to save someone and have Tony comfort him. I guess, kind of like what you did for Dadneto, bestie.

OH! I would also love to squeeze in doing a scene similar to Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man where he saves a kid and unmasks himself to help the kid feel more comfortable.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head for now, but I'm really excited to get back to continuing Many Adventures, especially during our writing sessions. But the fics are on a rotation, and I'm sticking with it to help my sanity, lol! Thanks so much for asking, bestie! LOVE YOU!!!!

Reblog if you're okay with receiving asks for backstory info on any/all of your fics.

[in-a-cave-with]

a list of fic ideas that i constantly think about all the time yet have neither the time nor skill to actually write them (from least to most absolutely off the shits ridiculous):

being framed for murder isnt all that great mr stark: (mcu) just as the title might imply, it entails spider-man being accused of the murder of general ross. peter then starts receiving messages from the actual murderer telling him that they’re holding his aunt hostage and that if he wants to get her back safe he has to follow their orders in order to carry out their next devious plan. peter plays along to track down the killer, undermine their plan, and prove his innocence. tony tracks down peter to get answers about this extremely worrying situation (as peter taking matters into his own hands and going off the radar makes him look 300% more guilty in the government’s eyes). 

my friend the ghost of captain america: (616) it turns out director stark's hallucinations of the recently dead steve rogers aren’t all hallucinations, because occasionally they’re actually the semi corporeal form of the actual steve rogers, who managed to free himself from the effect of the time bullets somewhat! emphasis on somewhat. follow tony and ghost steve as they try to turn steve back to normal while disagreeing on basically everything how to go about doing it. oh, and also extremis is slowly killing tony after it started malfunctioning from the fight with the mandarin (he’s not going to tell anyone this though)

hearts of kyber: (mcu-aligned, star wars au) tony stark (former imperial engineer turned empire’s most wanted after he sabotaged the early death star plans) runs into peter parker (former jedi padawan turned bounty hunter turned rogue after order 66) on a planet colonized by kree soldiers. they manage to escape the planet together and are picked up by nick fury (who is really mace windu with a prosthetic hand and eye also on the run from the empire). he eventually recruits them for his squad of rebels, nicknamed the avengers. together they carry out various missions for the official rebel alliance, and discover hidden plans from a secret sect of the empire’s engineering division for something called “UL-TRON”

space-dust crusaders: (616-aligned, jojo au but set mostly in space) after a fight with an enemy stand user [axis], tony stark (alter ego iron man) now has an evil double from another dimension named Superior who uses his own stand power [extremis 3.0] to give tony a disease that reaches fatality within 50 days (as he tells tony in a dramatic evil monologue). after the rest of the avengers (a team of stand wielding superheroes) manage to chase him off of earth superior fucks off to a far off planet and sets up a base there with the ultimate goal of taking over the galaxy, recruiting multiple stand users to help his cause. after finding out about tony’s predicament a couple of tony’s friends on the avengers team board a spaceship to find said planet that superior fucked off to and kill him to get rid of the sickness, but what they DON’T know is that tony has managed to tag along for the ride with every intent to bring down his evil double himself

[youngbugandtonystank]

I was fascinated when I learned two years passed in universe between Homecoming and Infinity War. Could you please make some kind of list of all the training / fun / bonding time you imagine Peter and Tony undoubtedly spent together between those movies? Thanks

Hi!

I have a long list but I want to give you ‘things that are semi-canon’ for people who want to incorporate this info in their fanfics or just want to know more about irondad. 

Things that are semi-canon

1. Doing projects together:

It’s semi-canon that Peter about helped tony build a program for kids interested in tech, see this post for info. Also, Joe and Anthony Russo confirmed Peter upgraded the web-shooters Tony made him, the only way Peter can upgrade such technology is in an advanced lab, and this happened between HOCO and IW, so guess who borrowed him a place to work? 

Also: Tony’s invitation. Concept art for sure but since the Spider-Signal is something Peter used in Homecoming, this is pretty much canon.

2. Tony making projects about Peter:

Tony Stark founded the Worldwide Engineering Brigade or WEB, to develop advancements in super-powered technology and guess what’s his debut project? Spider-Man’s suit. 

All of this is from Walt Disney Imagineering’s Global Marvel Portfolios, they work closely with Studios and Entertainment and with Ryan Meinerding, Head of Visual Development at Marvel Studios, he designed all of Spider-Man’s suits for the most recent films (Civil War, Homecoming, Infinity War, Endgame and Far from Home). ALSO, it was revealed that the organization is going to be incorporated into upcoming comics and movies, so yes we’re going to see this in future marvel movies so let’s just say this is also pretty much canon.

This is a Stark-founded organization with Spider-Man as the main inspiration. Let’s also take a moment to acknowledge that Tony made a vehicle called ‘Web-Slinger’ lmaooo

Here, there’s even a logo for this:

3. Tony gives Peter his own workshop/workspace at Stark Industries or his own lab: 

YES, that’s right, now it’s pretty much canon just like in fanfics!

This is Peter’s commentary about Tony’s project about Spider-Man: ‘Now, you must be thinking: can’t Tony Stark just give all recruits a suit of armor or something? Why is he getting a bunch of science students and amateur inventors to make stuff? But, actually, it was Mr. Stark himself who said that he wanted to help up-and-coming inventors…See what we can come up with that maybe he hasn’t thought of. He’s even given us our own building/workshop to do that! Plus, he’s gotten people like Pym Technologies and the Wakandan Design Group to donate a lot of their old tech to WEB to see what we can reverse-engineer from it.‘

btw, to the people that SWEAR Tony is ‘jealous’ of other inventors… lmao He basically asked Hank, Hope, and Shuri to donate technology for genius students and inventors. 

4. Tony gives Peter his credit card to buy whatever he wants:

Spoilers for Far from Home.

In FFH, Happy mentions that while Peter was staying at the Kurhotel Ströszek, he spent a night there before going home and he pay-per-viewed a video in his room to watch an adult film.

5. Peter has a room and visits the Avengers Compound:

As stated by Tony himself: ‘Happy will show you to your room…your new quarters. Where’s he between? He’s next to Vision.’

And between HOCO and IW, there’s a two-year gap, it’s safe to say Peter went there to train and possibly even spent nights in his own room. How do I know this? 

Wanda said it herself in IW, ‘For two years, we’ve stolen these moments… trying to see if this could work and…I don’t know.’

Bruce as well: ‘Wow. You guys…really look like crap. Must’ve beena rough couple of years.’

In Ant-Man and the Wasp, the movie is before Infinity War: 

‘He’s allowed to return to the U.S., provided he serve two years under house arrest’ ‘Give me a break. I haven’t driven in two years.’ ‘Oh, hey guys. Are my two years up already?’

6. Spider-Man and Iron Man fought together/did missions together and the public knows it:

This is for the social media irondad fanfic fans!

Spoilers for Far from Home.

In the movie, reporters asked Peter stuff that hardly a lot of people would know without Tony providing this information.

They asked Peter if he was the head Avenger now, they asked him what it’s like to take over from Tony Stark and that those are some big shoes to fill. Why are they asking Spider-Man out of all people when Thor is there, Bruce is there, Rhodey is there, Pepper is there, and the other amount of superheroes that are currently alive? I bet Tony never shut up about Spider-Man lmao. 

Nick Fury repeatedly reminds Peter that Tony chose him and even tells him that Tony dedicated this quote to him: ‘Stark left these for you. Really?  “Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.” Stark said you wouldn’t get that because it’s not a Star Wars reference.’ Something that wouldn’t happen if Peter wasn’t a topic of conversion very often.

Fury even tells Peter that everyone in SHIELD already knows who he is: ‘Remove the mask. Everyone here has seen you without it.’ 

And the way they work so well together in IW tells me enough.

Also, can we talk about how proudly Tony portrays Spider-Man everywhere? 

7. Ironfamily spending time together:

I think it’s safe to say that the ironfam is no longer just a concept but something pretty much canon. I have the feeling Peter got to spend time with all of them, and here’s the evidence:

Pepper knew Peter back then in Homecoming and repeatedly tried to save him in Endgame. In Far from Home, Happy tells Peter that Pepper is sorry that she couldn’t attend to his charity and sent a check. She didn’t need to attend at all even if Peter was close to Tony, but she was going to and that should tell you something. 

Happy’s been there for Peter as well since Homecoming, but he was really not that close to him, between those two years between HOCO and IW you can tell he got close to him as well giving by their interactions in Far from Home. He’s head of security and has the confidence of giving Peter his phone, his password and is there available for him anytime Peter needs it. Even if this is out of nowhere for me, the fact that Happy is practically dating Peter’s aunt, with May stating that she and Happy are always going to be friends no matter what. 

This is a relationship that must’ve been developing between HOCO and IW because May did disappear during the Blip while Happy didn’t.

Rhodey knows Peter since Civil War, and he even teams up and goes along Peter’s plan back then. In Infinity War, when Bruce asks if there are an ant-man and a spider-man, Rhodey just shrugs like it’s something usual like he’s used to it. Last but not least, the fact that Rhodey steps away from Tony while he was dying to let Peter have his moment with him tells you A LOT.

This is a concept art from Endgame, Ironfam fighting together. The writers wanted this, so I’m going to take it as canon lmao

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I’ll add some more content later and feel free to add more yourself if you want♥

Thanks for asking!

[harrison-osterfield-appreciation]

Peter Parker’s timeline.

How old is Peter Parker? The MCU seems to be a bit uncertain, so I’ve laid out a timeline. All according to in-universe information.

Avengers: Endgame gives actual years of certain events, so that’s where we’re starting. (This will all connect together I promise).

According to Avengers: Endgame, The Battle Of New York during The Avengers (2012) takes place during 2012. Conveniently matching the release date of that movie.

In Spider-Man: Homecoming, it is noted that The Battle Of New York took place 8 years prior, which puts Spider-Man: Homecoming in 2020.

Also within Spider-Man: Homecoming, it is stated that the events of Captain America: Civil War happened 2 months ago.

The events of Black Panther most likely took place in between these 2 movies, as T’Challa is seen with his family for the first time since his father’s death.

The events of Avengers: Age of Ultron happen before the events of Ant-Man, as Hank Pym references the Avengers dropping cities out of the sky (Sokovia).

In Ant-Man And The Wasp, Scott Lang finishes 2 years of being under house arrest as punishment for the events of Captain America: Civil War, which places this movie in 2022.

In Thor: Ragnarok, Thor tells Bruce Banner that the events in Sokovia (Avengers: Age Of Ultron) occurred 2 years ago, and the end credits scene of this movie directly leads into Avengers: Infinity War.

The end credits scene of Ant-Man And The Wasp happens at the same time as Avengers: Infinity War, and as this movie and Thor: Ragnarok reference events occurring 2 years prior, means that Avengers: Age Of Ultron happened during the same year as Captain America: Civil War.

5 years pass in between the events of Avengers: Infinity War and most of Avengers: Endgame.

Spider-Man: Far From Home happens after Avengers: Endgame. Betty Brant expresses annoyance at the snap victims having to redo part of their schooling, implying that at least a few months have passed since the snap victims have come back.

This puts:

The Avengers in 2012.

Avengers: Age Of Ultron, Ant-Man, Captain America: Civil War, Black Panther, and Spider-Man: Homecoming all in 2020.

Thor: Ragnarok, Ant-Man And The Wasp, and Avengers: Infinity War all in 2022.

Avengers: Endgame and Spider-Man: Far From Home in 2027.

Back to Peter Parker now. Specifically his age.

In Spider-Man: Homecoming, Peter says that he is 15 years old. We now know that 2 years later, Avengers: Infinity War happens, and so does Thanos’s snap. 5 years pass, and the snap victims come back, to them, practically no time has passed.

According to Peter Parker’s passport, his birthday is in August.

Regardless of the time gap between Avengers: Endgame and Spider-Man: Far From Home, Peter Parker would be at least 17 years old in both of these movies (22 according to his passport if you want to get technical, but let’s ignore those 5 years of snap-time).

In the movie, Peter tells Mysterio that he’s 16 years old. My theory?

Peter hit his head REALLY hard on that bell in Venice, and nobody checked to see if he had a concussion.

[grimalkinmessor]

I Have A Question

Okay, so, how old is Tony Stark?

Yeah, yeah, if you Google it, it says he's 53 as of Endgame, which meant that he was 48 as of Infinity War, which is weird for a few reasons.

One, Tony Stark's birthday is May 29th, 1970. Which means at the time of the first Iron Man movie, he would've been 38. But I rewatched it yesterday, and something stuck out to me.

"Thirty years, I've been holding you up."

This is what Obidiah says as he beats the shit out of Tony (rude). But that doesn't match up. 38 is closer to 40 than 30, and with the distaste Obidiah feels for Tony, they certainly would've felt longer, so if Tony were actually 38, Obidiah should have said, "For almost forty years, I've been holding you up."

Now, you can argue that Obidiah has been around Tony since he was a kid, but 'holding you up' would imply that Obidiah has been responsible for Tony for thirty years. Which, he hasn't. Because Howard Stark died when Tony was 21.

(That brings me to another point of confusion: how did Jarvis "raise Tony after his parents' deaths" if Tony was already grown up? You can't really raise a twenty-one year old.)

Maybe Obidiah was talking about how long he's been helping Tony with the company then. But nope, checked that too, and if the '21 when orphaned' checks out (I doubt it), then Tony has only been running the company for 17 years. Which, if rounding is what Obidiah's into, translates to twenty years, not thirty.

Another thing that makes Tony's age inconsistent, is the Marvel timeline itself. Marvel said the events of the first Iron Man movie happened in 2010. Which it couldn't have, if Tony was 38 at the time, because 1970 dictates that he would've been 40, which still contradicts Obidiah's spiel about thirty years or whatever. Which means that Tony would've been 50 during Infinity War, not 48. The accompanied five years until Endgame would've made him 55.

The thing that made me take a look at this, though, was Peter Parker. His birthday is very close to mine, which I thought was cool, until I looked at it again and went, "Well, wait, that can't be right." Because his birthday on his ID, in the movies, says August 10th, 2001. But Civil War takes place in 2016. (Then again in Civil War, when Vision refers to Iron Man's coming out as eight years ago, that puts it back in 2008 territory, not 2010 like Marvel said.) This puts Peter Parker at age 15, right? Homecoming is also dated in 2016, so he's still 15 then too.

But Infinity War is dated in 2018. Which means that it's two years after Homecoming, so Peter Parker would be 17, maybe pushing eighteen because of the month, right? Wrong.

In Spider-Man: Far From Home, Peter says, "I'm just a sixteen year old kid." Which implies that Peter was still 15 when Infinity War happened.

Originally, I just wanted to find out how Peter was in Iron Man 2, when he was at the Expo. Iron Man was said to take place in 2011, which means that Peter would have been 10. Going by this we can assume that--still acting like he was 38 in Iron Man--that Tony is 39. But that doesn't match up either, because if Infinity War takes place in 2018, Tony is not 48. He's 46. If you wanted to try and fix it, you could say that Tony was 37 in Iron Man 2, except that would fuck up the 'he's 38 in Iron Man 1' part of it. But considering 1970, he should have been 40 in Iron Man, 41 in Iron Man 2, 42 in Avengers, 42 in Iron Man 3 (considering how soon PTSD starts surfacing and we were given a front row seat to it), and I'm not going to look at Age of Ultron, because according to Steve's 'seventy five years after he crashed the plane' it takes place in 2020, so whatever. But if Civil War takes place in 2016, and Tony is 42 in Iron Man 3, then he should still be 46. But going by Marvel's timeline, Tony is actually 44 during Civil War, which means he's been Iron Man for about six years, not eight.

There was inconsistency with the timeline from the very beginning, not just after Civil War. And it all started with the year 1970.

So I present to you: Tony Stark was not born in 1970. That information is false, just get rid of it completely, fuck that.

Instead, I give you: Tony Stark was born in 1978, or alternatively, 1980.

This patches up not only the two year gap of 2010, but also the gap of Age of Ultron, the gap of Civil War, and the gap of Infinity War. It ALSO makes what Tony says about Jarvis raising him, and what Obidiah said about thirty years make much more sense. It puts Tony at age 13 when his parents died in 1991, and the age of 30 when he made the Iron Man suit, which aligns with Obidiah's taunting. This also put the timeline back at 2008 instead of 2010, which goes with what Vision said about eight years between 2016 and when Iron Man emerged.

This puts Tony at 31 in Iron Man 2, 32 in Avengers, 32 in Iron Man 3, 34 in Age of Ultron, 35 in Civil War, and 37 in Infinity War, if we realign the timeline to fit the years and amount of time implied between each event. Or if we kept the original years, 34 in Avengers, 36 in Age of Ultron, 37 in Civil War, and 39 in Infinity War. So Tony Stark only hit his forties after Infinity War, when he settled down with Pepper and had Morgan, and would've been 44 when Endgame started and Morgan turned five (which makes much more sense biology wise but we won't go there today).

So basically, tl;dr, ignore phase three's time keeping completely, Tony's birth year is wrong and Marvel just fucked it up more by trying to fix it, and Tony built Iron Man at 30, not 38. This has been my TED talk, thank you for coming, feel free to fix my math if I messed anything up, but otherwise I headcanon this and you can take your incorrect MCU facts right the hell away from me.

[adventures-in-a-world-of-fiction]

Some thoughts on Spider-man: Far from Home

In no particular order. Some significant spoilers below.

1. I love the face that the events of Infinity War/Endgame are referenced multiple times. I thought it was going to be a bit of hand-waving at the start and then ignored, but no, it kept coming up. May was running a charity for people left homeless after they came back, the kids discuss how weird it was that a guy who used to be five years younger than them was now in the same class, the teacher talking about his wife, MJ tattling on Flash when he was being served alcohol (“He’s actually sixteen, not twenty-one”). Given the comment about how they were forced to restart the school year and that it’s now summer vacation, this film presumably takes place a good nine or ten months after the events of Endgame. People have settled into a new normal, but everyone’s still feeling the impact of what happened and it’s nice that that got acknowledged.

2. The Getty Images watermark in the stock footage during the memorial video. :)

3. “You speak really good English.” “Welcome to the Netherlands.”

4. Peter and Happy’s relationship was awesome. The change from Homecoming is noticeable, but it makes so much sense. And the hug in the tulip field! Amazing.

5. That said, I really wish Happy’s speech about how Tony wasn’t perfect included the words “Remember Ultron?” Peter was fretting about how he’d screwed up in a major way and wasn’t a worthy successor, etc. Happy should have said something along the lines of, “Yeah, you screwed up, kid, but you’re a kid. Tony build a robot that tried to drop a city from orbit to wipe out humanity and he didn’t have that excuse and people still thought he was a hero. You’ll be fine.”

6. On the subject of still thinking Tony was a hero, the EDITH acronym!

7. MJ hitting the drone with the mace. I liked MJ in general in this. She’s intelligent, she acts independently, she was responsible for Peter figuring out what was really going on. She felt like a person and not just a designated love interest.

8. On the other hand, I wish Betty had gotten more character development. She and Ned were adorable together, but I didn’t really feel like I knew her at the end of the film. Ned made a comment about how they had a lot in common. Like what? Other than a propensity for cutesy nicknames and matching hats?

9. Mysterio to Peter: Never apologise for being the smartest person in the room. *Hill gives him a dirty look*

10. That little moment with Mysterio felt genuine. He seemed to actually like Peter, which gave his character some depth. I couldn’t help thinking of the parallels to Thanos and Gamora and Mysterio’s “He was a nice kid, I didn’t want to kill him,” felt more real than Thanos crying about killing Gamora. Maybe it was because the way it was framed made it clear we weren’t meant to sympathise with Mysterio.

11. Mysterio was just a good villain in general and I liked his interactions with his crew.

12. I kinda love that Mysterio’s villain origin story was basically, “Tony gave my tech a stupid name.”

13. The Iron Man zombie was seriously creepy. That thing was in shot for, what, about ten seconds? But those ten seconds were seriously disturbing, especially with the spiders crawling all over it.

14. I was a bit annoyed while watching this by Fury’s characterisation. He was very hard on Peter, pushing him to save the world when he’s just a kid, putting so much pressure on him, snapping at him, etc. Then you have things like Hill saying Fury wasn’t at all suspicious of Mysterio, despite Fury being one of the most suspicious people in existence. Then the post credits scene! Suddenly all that made sense. He wasn’t really Fury, he was a Skrull shapeshifter who was only supposed to hand over the glasses to Peter and then found himself caught up in all of this mess. He clearly didn’t have any clue what to do and was just winging it, and so putting pressure on Peter makes sense because he’s there going, “Fury didn’t tell me how to deal with this and I’ve no idea where the other Avengers are, you’re the only one I can find, please fix this for me.” He was completely out of his depth the whole time and that explains everything. It also retrospectively makes the line about Captain Marvel all the more meaningful. (I now want an AU where Peter figure out that Fury is acting out of character, thinks he’s another illusion, and then the Skrull guy is forced to come clean).

15. Mysterio’s first fight against Peter was really cool, with Mysterio messing with Peter’s head in so many ways and using their surroundings to mess with him physically.

16. Happy’s little smile when he sees Peter using Tony’s tech.

17. Happy announcing he’s in love with Spiderman’s aunt when they all think they’re going to die (made even better by the fact that only two of the people present know exactly who that is).

18. Happy: “I work with Spiderman not for him.”

19. Happy in general.

20. Flash getting so excited when he finds out that Spiderman watched his live stream.

21. Flash getting London Bridge and Tower Bridge mixed up.

22. I really want to see how Flash reacts now that he knows who Spiderman is. It’ll probably never be shown in the films because presumably there will be another large time skip between the end of this one and the next one, so I guess fanfic will have to fill the gap, but I would love to see who Flash takes the news and what he does with the information. “This is clearly an effort to discredit the greatest hero there is by comparing him to a puny wimp like Parker. It’s obviously a lie. He’s a hundred reasons why you can tell the video is faked.”

23. The constant interruptions when “Fury” was trying to talk to Peter in the hotel room.

On the whole, I very much enjoyed it. It’s not up there with Thor Ragnarok or Black Panther, but it’s a solid, enjoyable superhero movie and certainly better than Endgame. There were a couple of moments that had me cringing (the drone strike on the bus) rather than enjoying it, but overall it was good and there were a lot of great moments both in terms of humour and drama.

[theendofthematerialgworl]

I have a couple of problems with this, but most of all being the age.

So, here's the issue with Harley Keener: No one actually knows how old he is.

People on Quora seem to think he's about 11 in Iron Man 3, the MCU wiki says that he was born in 2002, which would make him 10 in Iron Man 3, and this article from Complex says that he was 10 in Iron Man 3. In short, no one actually knows how old this kid is. I always assumed that he was twelve, because Ty Simpkins, the actor that plays Harley, was twelve at the time.

If we're going off of the original question's assumption, which is that Harley was 13 in Iron Man 3, that means that he was born in 1999, because the movie takes place in late 2012. Spider-Man: Homecoming takes place in 2016, so if he was born in 1999, Harley would either be 17 or be turning 17 that year. That's about a two-year age gap because Peter Parker was born in 2001. In my personal opinion, that's not that bad, even during high school. Some people have different beliefs, but my rule (for myself) is no one born more than two years before you.

There was a two-year gap between Homecoming and Infinity War, as the original asker said. Peter, having not yet had his birthday that year, would then be 16 in Infinity War. He would turn 17 that year. No one is really sure what month Infinity War is set in, so I can't tell you how long it would be. By the logic that Harley was born in 1999, he would either be 18 or 19 in Infinity War, depending on when his birthday is. Ty Simpkins was born on August 6th, but that doesn't really mean anything.

Basically, any way you slice it, the ship is not pedophilic. Unless Harley survived the Snap, but we don't actually know that, and I'm going to go with not. If he did survive the Snap, then it's a whole other ball game and it would take way too long.

To go off of the incest point, it's not incest. For one, they're not biologically or legally related. Never have I seen a fic in which they are both Tony's children and dating. It's always one or the other. Maybe Tony sees both of them as his sons, but in that way where you see your son-in-law as your son, not just your kid's husband.

I have a lot of issues with the original ask, but there we are. The ship is not pedophilic unless Harley survived the Snap, and it's not incest.

Why are people shopping Harley x Peter? Isn't Harley older than him? And they treat them as Tony's sons? Isn't that incest? Family is family. That ship kinda pedophilic because the director said Peter is 16 and Harley was 13 in im3 that means he was 17 in sm1 plus the two years gap between homecoming and infinity war means he was 19 how can people ship a 16 year old Peter with a 19 year old 🤢🤢🤮🤮 this fandom ships too many pedo ships

I'm going to have to check on Harley's age because I really don't remember how old he was.

And I don't think it's incest unless people actually treat them like real brothers or in a context where they're adopted by Tony. Like I've said before, I don't ship them, I see them more like brothers. But I'm going to check his age because I haven't thought about that. I'll get back to you.