#it sounds like i kinda condemn ppl for having fun in their own way but. at some point you have to question what they liked about the source
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Bro what fear I have to browse fandom/character tags for HOURS to get canonical characterisations in fan stuff besides fanart what are you even talking about
#even if the fear of mischaracterisation got bigger so did the mischaracterisation itself#not to be the “media literacy” person but people DID genuinely get worse at media comprehension#like. idk how this keeps happening bc there's a culture of media analysis AND pure content consumption existing at the same time#there's just so much of everything that ppl simply don't get to sit on one piece of media they consumed before moving to another#and the whole “fandomization” of literally everything. every piece of every media ever has to have shipping in it/popular meme formats/aus#and so on. like. we have to cram everything into these tiny preexisting boxes otherwise we don't know how to properly interact with media-#post experience. it's so sad and bizzare really#also the whole toxic positivity/accepting everything in art as right and reasonable vs overcritisism and hate for meta reasons thing#ANYWAY. what i want to say is. all people DO in fandoms is putting words into characters' mouthes because it's funny#and you have to make a conscious decision to create a proper portrait of a character as they are shown in canon to not fall into their-#sorry. not to fall into how the fandom commonly perceives them#i was a wheatley fan and a silco/silver fan currectly. it's a pure nightmare out there#fandom#fandom community#fandom complaints#fandom critical#fandom culture#meta commentary#thing rambles#it sounds like i kinda condemn ppl for having fun in their own way but. at some point you have to question what they liked about the source#material in the first place. if this is what they decided to take from all of this#idk man. i just feel trapped in some kind of loop and i have no idea how to get out
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1. I disregard the UN bc they do nothing against all the active war crimes and human rights violation that are being done by muslim countries like oh i don't know? Child brides? And SLAVERY?? Horrible executions of queer people? They don't commit at all about the genocide that happened for the past like, 100-200 years against jews all over the arab and muslim countries. They just sit there and talk and they sound like they don't k ow anything. Also btw 100 of the hamas terrorists that attacked on 7.10 graduated from the UN university for palestinians, so idk how i perceived the UN anymore besides ignorant
2. Yes nowadays israel will take control over gaza that much is true can't say i support that israel aren't made of pure gold, im pretty sure your country isn't made of angels for government. Seriously people judge israel as if all the countries in the world are pure gold hearted angels sent from heaven. Like get out of your own ass. Also ppl in the WB are not israeli citizens they are under the PA and israel gives them jobs, i would know bc the busses in center of israel-the ones israeli ppl use- are absolutely PACKED with palestinians from the WB around 6-7 am
3. Lol as european you can sit your ass down bc you are the part of the reason jews felt so unsafe they wanted a country of their own to feel safe- jews aren't colonizers- they can't be especially not white considering after the holocaust the majority of the jewish population kinda ceased to exist. You completely overlook all the mizrahi, sefardi and tzabar jews which is absolutely hilarious. You can't demand jews to "go back to the middle east where they came from"and when they do that be mad at them. Jews are indigenous, cope in silence.
Also "palestine" is a derogatory name for the land-canaan. It comes from the greek word "philistine" which technically means barbaric and from the aramic word "plishtim" which means invador. Palestinians means "barbaric invadors" so if you want to jeep calling them that have fun
4. Bro what do you want the ottomans and arabs colonized the land, the brits also did that, EVERYONE fucking colonized the land and brutally opressed the jews. You really don't know about the opression they did? Really? It didn't happen at first, no, at first they came and build muslim settlements on the land and actually loved jews,jews even worked at the royal palance at some point. but one king came up and just decided that he hates and jews and chritians
5. The first pogroms against jews started in 1908,then became worse in the 1920's. The brits actually tries to come to their aid multiple times in so many ways even opressing jews by writing 3 fucking whole books with restrictions to jews such as: limiting the amount of jews that can immigrant and forbidding jews from buying land- yes bc jews didn't come and just went house to house and kicked arabs out, they bought lands and build villages of their own. All the cities the arabs lived in are original jewish cities from thousands of years ago that they occupied. Stop denying jewish heritage, history and connection to the land you antisemite freak.
Also the nakba happened in 15th of may 1948- a day after the declaration of israel and when arabs started the 1948 war. How did you say it? That arabs were "pissed off"? Yes so the jews were also a little "pissed off" after they started a fucking WAR (surprising) with 7 other nations + the arabs within the land. Mind you A LOT of arabs fled themselves, not everyone were expelled. Wow i guess its not the first time the palis waged war on israel and started to cry when israel answered back with brutality. Also there were less than 1 million jews at the time - including elderly, children AND HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS agains millions of trained military nations and they still won.
6. Again, the nakba happened AFTER they started the war-i don't support it, i condemn it, it was horrible- so yes they could just declare themselves a country on 14th together with israel. In the israeli declaration of independence they call for peace amongst the arabs in the region and the neighboring arab countries and to that they answered with war. Not a really peaceful move ey?
7. It is, in fact, about religion. You really act so self rightous bc you truly don't understand how deep it all is. Pro palestinians march with swastikas, praise hamas, attack jews- the antisemitism is rising WORLDWIDE everytime there's something about israel. One thing you are right about- israel does not care about the ethnicity nor the religion considering there are 2.048 million arabs palestinians that are citizens that are free- they are doctors, in the knesset, they are truly everywhere and we can live with them just fine? Lol my dentist is a palestinian arab. Oh wow and lets not talk about the beduins and druze, fucking hell they are more zionists than a lot of jews that i encountered with- they serve in the IDF wholeheartedly and oppose the sharia laws that the palestinians support and know what hamas, isis and all the terror organizations are. You TRULY don't understand anything about israel
I recommend you to listen to Yusuf mosad hassan, he is a son of one of the head leaders of hamas- he was a terrorist that served 2 years in the israeli prison fully believing whatever propaganda you say, he was raised in ramallah IN A SCHOOL FOR SHAHID since he was a CHILD after he was released he walked around israel streets in tel aviv and got the shock of his life and now he is super pro israeli.
You really suppose to have a bigger insight over all that instead of seeing posts like the og posts that are just straight up BS and lies. Cheers
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My immediate thought was “superego” also, reminds me of that ask from that 1 that you got a while back - though you’re probably right about 6 because the wanting validation part sounds attachment-y.
I don’t see morality entering into it at all until you’ve taken some external action that impacts others.
Though I might certainly sometimes interrogate if the reaction ‘makes sense’, because I need to know that in order to decide how to act on it - if I’m justified in being mad, then I need to think if there’s anything I can do about the problem, maybe find a solution or let the one responsible hear it.
If it doesn’t make sense, and it’s just a “me problem”, then the reaction itself is the only problem - if its mild, I might just ignore it till it fades. If I desire catharsis, or if it’s strong enough to need managing - maybe go for a walk or listen to some angry music?
Same if there’s nothing I can do - if you cant treat the disease, relieve the symptoms.
I might find an unwarranted response embarassing or foolish - like being touchy for no good reason or still feeling hurt over the words of a person I haven’t spoken to in years.
But I don’t think moral condemnation enters into it - after all, it just is. I can’t control it. Thoughts, feelings and impulses just arise. Why would blame apply to something I can’t control? I control the actions and choices, insofar as a human being can control anything.
Morals could come into it where it affects another person.
What could certainly be related to Fe is that I sometimes want to put it into some external form where people can see it - usually not while it’s ongoing, but only after I’ve processed it.
though thats a ‘I want to make it heard or see how people react to it’ thing more than it is wanting a particular response from them.
Which isn’t to say that I’m completely immune to validation when it happens to come my way. that would be a silly claim as well as a lie.
Recently I made this new writer friend and had them test-read one of my lyrical pieces and she expressed sympathy for the POV character. That did something for me, I think. Like I got a little balm of sympathy placed on the ugly, repugnant bits of me, even indirectly. (though i dont mean ugly and repugnant as in morally, just - literally ugly. unsightly. unappealing. pathetic.)
kinda a bit twisted, that I have to be like, “here, i made something, wanna see something really freaky?” I made this thing, that I contrived with skill, I threw it into the void and them I’m peering in from the sidelines to see what people say to that, while staying kind of out of sight. And I’m expecting that probably no one will notice, or people will get it all wrong, and that’s just like it is -
For the most part, I’m just making a thing because it doesn’t exist yet and I want it to, or to get something out of my system, deal with it myself all on my own. Just for the fun of the art of it.
But maybe deep down inside im secretly hoping that maybe just maybe someone would notice, and just wont let myself admit it or act like it because then I could be dissapointed.
I couldn’t just go and say, “Hi, my cool new friend, I’ve been struggling with these terrible feelings of ambivalence and im afraid they make me really undesirable, give me your 2 cents on that” - though this is probably what most ppl do with their friends. But nope - I gotta entertain them with a freaky thing first!
might be an excellent example of that whole ‘symbolic object’ thingy, in hindsight.
is it normal for low Fe to constantly question "am I justified in having this emotional reaction?" I was reading back a rant I wrote and at every point I express upset or hurt I seem to check myself and go "but am I reasonably justified in feeling this way, given that xxxx? does it make me a bad/toxic person for feeling upset when I know very well that xxxx?" I think I crave the validation of someone telling me that it's totally okay and normal to feel this way... and follow-up question, is it healthy to think like this??
It might be, but to be honest, I do this as a 6. Someone ticked me off the other day and I sent what they sent me to two friends (both 9s, so I know they wouldn't overreact) and asked, "Is this something that I should be upset about? Cuz I'm upset. Am I overreacting?" Both of them told me absolutely not, and I was justified to be mad about it. Both told me I had every right to be angry about it, because it was so inappropriate. And that made it okay -- and then I got over it and moved on with my day. I don't like overreacting or being emotional, because it makes me feel less logical and more vulnerable, which is why I suppress things. I hold onto that 6ish need to "use logic to keep safe." But my natural tendency is to get my feelings hurt.
There's a super-ego element in what you are talking about -- like you are checking yourself to make sure it's Okay to have these feelings and if you shouldn't have them, because of X circumstances, but knowing that someone is going through Y doesn't necessarily change how YOU feel about it. I can accept that a friend is having a rough time right now and still feel hurt at being ignored. Feelings do not make you bad or toxic; what you do about them is what might make you bad or toxic. It's one thing to feel resentment, and another to sabotage someone because you feel resentment.
Thinkers can often not be sure if they are overreacting as well, or if their feelings are normal, or even what they are feeling about this, so it sometimes catches them off guard. Some thinkers want to hear, "This is normal, you'll be fine," and others say that ticks them off.
I don't see any problem with questioning your emotions, provided you are allowing yourself to experience and manage them. If you think that this emotion is bad, then talk to yourself about why you think it's bad and what you can do with it to make it "good." But it's also important not to ignore your immediate reactions, because that's where the truth of your feelings lies. Yes, I am hurt. I am angry. I am jealous. React and think about it. You are 'justified' to feel what you feel, but also responsible for what you do about those feelings.
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