#it also has one of my favorite fob lyrics ever:
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ok but folie à deux is such an underrated album. makes me want to beat up men and wear over-the-top winged eyeliner and leather jackets and skinny jeans and drive entirely too fast down desolate roads late at night. genuinely my favorite fall out boy album, 10/10.
#and yes i personally like it better than so much (for) stardust#despite the fact that sm(f)s has a much better production quality by virtue of it being made in 2023 and presumably given more money#also some of the bass lines??? like on she’s my winona??? DUDE#and all the songs fading into each other is just *chef’s kiss*#gooze’z zhitpoztz#fall out boy#fob#folie a deux#folie à deux#it also has one of my favorite fob lyrics ever:#“head like a steel trap / wish i didn’t i didn’t i didn’t i didn’t i didn’t i didn’t i didn’t i DONT”#entirely too many ‘didnt’s. 10/10.
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hi egt
what fob songs scream hiatus to you?
i need to experience emotional ruin real quick
God, there are so many, like, basically allll of Save Rock and Roll feels like them working through the hiatus together (not least because of how it has a higher percentage of Patrick lyrics than usual, probably because of him coming off his solo work). But the hiatus loomed so large for them as this nuclear blast in their relationship, it seems to bleed all through Pete's words (and hence their songs) for years afterward.
And it actually even starts before the hiatus, with the "What a Catch, Donnie" music video, which is the most hiatus-y thing to ever hiatus, Pete going down with his ship while he sends everyone else away to party without him. IT'S ALL SO SYMBOLIC.
And then to title a song on the first Believers Never Die album "From Now On, We Are Enemies." WHAT THE HELL hahahahaha WHAT A CHOICE, PETE WENTZ. (a downward spiral, just a pirouette and I only what what I can't have -- wanting what you can't have is a total hiatus theme for me that shows up a bunch in Pete's lyrics. I have not done an empirical analysis to see if it's a more prevalent theme after the hiatus or not.)
"The Phoenix" has obvious symbolism for their life as a band, raising their career from the ashes, changing themselves up like a remix, wearing their vintage of misery better than everyone else. Also, I love the imagery it has of peace, the "release the doves, surrender love" bit. Waving the white flag and putting down your weapons (in contrast to put on your war paint). But I've always kind of felt like surrender love is one of Pete's deliberate ambiguities: It could be "surrender your love" but it could also be "surrender, love." And Pete doesn't often use "love" as a term of endearment in his lyrics but he called Patrick "love" on stage not too long ago, so, you know, it seems not too outside the realm of possibility to think that these are really lines about reconciliation. It feels like time is running out, so let's surrender and hold tight.
Then there's "Alone Together": I'm outside the door, invite me in so we can go back and play pretend. The image of playing pretend / make-believe with someone also recurs in Pete's poetry, and it's something else I always read as Patrick-coded. Who did he used to "pretend" with for the sake of the shippers? And, of course, starting at the end of the road to ruin sounds like people who have burned everything down but are finding their way back.
I wrote a whole fic about "Where Did the Party Go" :-)
What is there to say about "Miss Missing You" that hasn't already been said? The infamous "hot whiskey eyes" line that honestly can only be about Pete Wentz lol. The imagery of the person you'd take a bullet for being behind the trigger: they have both at separate points in time proclaimed their readiness to take a bullet for the other. The fact that Pete wrote in a poem once before the hiatus I miss you missing me, and this song is I miss missing you. Like, everyone just die over this song.
To me "The Kids Aren't Alright" is a hiatus song in that it's about surviving the hiatus, coming through it, reversing the curse, it's our time now if you want it to be, in the end, I'd do it all again, I think you're my best friend.
"Fourth of July" is another hiatus song for me, the reference to the burned bridges being the light that leads you home is just so hiatus-y. Also, the torture of small talk with someone you used to love just smacks of the hiatus, of how they stopped talking to each other, of how they knew so little about each other and had to start over. This is more wanting what you can't have, too: my favorite what-if, my best I'll-never-know. I said I'd never miss you. I wish I'd known how much you loved me. It's so much, this song lol
Twin Skeleton's: ouch. This song is so painful. This song scrapes over your skin like sandpaper. This song is so angry and bitter. This song is I need a new partner in crime and you shrug. oh my GOD that line kills me every single time. That one and the way Patrick snarls, I could just die laughing on your spiral of shame. This is an angry song, but the anger is born of a depth of emotion and it ends with Patrick promising hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on over and over, and that's what makes it extra-hiatus to me, like, hold on, it all gets better, I'm coming back, hold on, hold on, hold on...
I find the hiatus infects their songs less and less the farther they get away from it, which is good. It's healing. As we've discussed, they've almost forgotten the whole thing even happened, it's been blurred over by the sands of time.
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🎃The name of my blog and what it means to me🎃
I have been trying to decide what to make as my first real post on here, and I think this is the most fitting thing! I have wanted to have a tumblr blog for a minute now, and I thought up this name early on. I felt like it was the perfect combination/ideal dogwhistle to attract mcr and fob fans to my blog, because it’s a mashup of a lyric from “Don’t You Know Who I Think I Am?” by Fall Out Boy and the title of the song “Cemetery Drive” by My Chemical Romance. All I can say is, thank god the phrase wasn’t already taken by somebody else!!
On to what the two songs mean to me, starting with “Don’t You Know Who I Think I Am?”: this is one of my favorite songs off of my favorite fob album, Infinity on High! And although I say this about the majority of fob lyrics, the line “broken down on memory lane” is truly one of their greatest ever. I can’t decide about the tone of this line; is it happy or sad? I love that it kind of confuses me. That may be my favorite genre of fob lyrics, the ones where I lowkey don’t have a great read on what they mean.
I also have this memory of driving home from my friend’s house last fall and listening to this song. We had watched Father of the Bride starring Steve Martin (king!) and it was downpouring. The song came up on shuffle and I remember being so keenly aware that the song was hitting me in just the place a song is meant to: where it hurts, but also where it doesn’t. So everywhere, lol.
On to “Cemetery Drive”! Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge is my forever favorite My Chemical Romance album, and on so many levels this song is everything that I love about that album all wrapped up into three ish minutes. A lot like “Don’t You Know Who I Think I Am?”, it contains a line that has always puzzled me: “I miss you so far”. I don’t know what to make of it! I change my mind on it all the time. If we’re trying to fit it into the overarching demolition lovers storyline, my guess is that it’s the demolition man expressing the idea that he misses his gf right now, but he doesn’t expect to for long, because once he completes his part of the bargain he won’t have to anymore! Because they’ll be together again!! Which just makes the ending of the story even more tragic because… iykyk.
Gerard’s delivery also really brings me there with this song, especially the way he sings “Is this what you always want me for?” like come on now!! He was crazy for that (complimentary). I feel that way about so many little moments in mcr songs, too many to even think of. Gerard, your odd pronunciation choices and your screaming are everything to me, mwah. 🫶🏻
Alright that was so long and self indulgent, so goodbye for now!! Thank you if you read to this point. A plague on your house if you didn’t, which I’m not afraid to say because you won’t see it anyway!
Stay frosty. ❄️
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hii , just wanted to say how much i litterally love this fic, ngl it has turned me into a swiftie (bow down to taylor swift) anyways i wanted to ask what is the partys fav eras?
every time someone says they became a taylor fan bc of this fic we grow more powerful >:) so glad to hear! welcome to the brainrot 🫡 as for their favs, we talked abt their fav albums a while back but that was a While Back and i never deny an opportunity to talk acswy party x taylor so here are what we think their favs would be:
el: speak now stan first and human being second. she’s just like me <3 no notes here her taste is immaculate. she did in fact shell out for the merch earlier this summer
max: rep girly through and through (both the album and the vibes of the Era) but i think she holds a very soft spot for lover (specifically after she and lucas start dating). loves call it what you want bc she is a not so secret softie
lucas: lover! not a huge fan but got introduced to taylor more through max and naturally gravitated towards lover. i’ve said this before and i’ve said this again but his fav track off of it is def i think he knows. he got my heart! beat! skipping down 16th avenue! etc so on and so forth
dustin: not a huge taylor Fan for the most part. likes her more popular hits and therefore probably 1989 if he had to pick an album. however he can also be found listening to very random debut tracks that no one else in the party ever really listens to. his spotify listening activity will show him listening to cold as you for three hours and everyone thinks it’s a glitch (it’s not). also a should’ve said no enjoyer. he and el scream it in the car a lot
will: tells everyone it’s folklore for the lyricism and whatnot (it’s mostly true) but he holds a special spot for red tv that he conveniently does not mention (specifically the breakup songs) (#andyoucallmeupagainjusttobreakmelikeapromise). mostly bc of the timing of when it dropped but also bc red tv is a masterpiece and he is putting some well deserved respect on its name. el and max know his secret though bc they had to listen to him listening to it on loop for nov-december 2021 and then it carried over into jan 2022 before they finally staged an intervention
mike: if he had to choose an Album it would prob be evermore but i think his favorite songs are scattered throughout the rest of her discography! to meeeee he is a mine enjoyer, as well as delicate, hygtg, so on and so forth. is not allowed to listen to this is me trying anymore for his own safety (lucas keeps tabs on his spotify activity). also to me mike is a pop punk enjoyer so i think speak now’s sound really draws him in as well! definitely got excited over fob + hayley’s features on the vault tracks
#to me will is fearless coded in every universe#i don’t think it would be acswy will’s fav album tho#like i don’t think he’d listen to most of the songs on it a lotttttt. here n there yea#probably some commentary here i’ll come back to add later hehe#asks#acswy reference
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Nearly Witches (Ever Since We Met...)
I said I wasn't going to piss off a certain section of the fandom today, and it feels like I might with this song.
But to quote Pretty Odd Fever, "do y'all think Spencer just sat in a corner until someone told him to play drums or what?" (click on the quote for a pre-split fan's perspective on the song)
Spencer Erasure has gone on for long enough in this fandom, and I will no longer be standing for it.
Even though he loves 'Vices & Virtues,' Smith admits that 'Nearly Witches (Ever Since We Met...)' is his favorite track on the album, because it started out as a an idea that the band came up with before they broke up. "That's the only idea we had from before we split and the only [un] original idea on the album," he says. "All we had was the music, and we could never figure out what to do with it. We loved it as a guitar and drum line, but we were able to figure it out, write a chorus for it and turn it into a song that I really love. We actually have a kids choir singing at the end of it, so that's just one song I'm totally proud of." - AOL Music (can't link you directly to the article, because I'm not allowed to, but here's a link to where someone copied and pasted the article onto Live Journal)
Brendon explaining his verse on 'Nearly Witches'.
(Coup De Main - video on Youtube and the online extended interview)
If you've listened to the first 'Viva Las Vengeance' demo, you can hear Brendon do something similar where he's repeating the same line over and over until he can figure out what he wants to say. If you've also heard the 'Praying' leak, it's also likely that he was doing the whole "Yeah, yeah, yeah" over and over again, because whilst he had the track figured out he still couldn't place where to put the lyrics. That is what Brendon's talking about here.
So, how much did Ryan write of the song?
Well, you know that demo that was release on the FOB Mixtape?
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That's it. That's Ryan Ross' contribution to Vices & Virtues.
That's likely all he wrote apparently, because - and I can't emphasis this enough - the song was never finished. According to both Brendon and Spencer, all that was recorded and written is what you hear on the demo. Everything else you hear on 'Nearly Witches (Ever Since We Met...)' is Brendon, Spencer, and likely a little bit of John Feldmann.
Interviewer: Did "Nearly Witches (Ever Since We Met…)” come from those Pretty. Odd. sessions? Brendon: It definitely did, actually. There was a lot of time we spent writing for Pretty. Odd., and there were a lot of ideas that just did not end up getting used. When we started writing, Ryan had this concept written lyrically of this musical, and he tried to get it across to us, and we were starting to get it, like, "Okay, I think this can work." So we started writing, and I don't know if the stuff we were writing was just too ambitious, but it didn't feel right, and we weren't excited about what we were doing. There were a couple of moments [where it felt right], though, and "Nearly Witches" was one of those moments. It was only 30 or 40 seconds of an idea, but we loved the idea so much, and it never got used. It was in the back of my and Spencer's head, just bugging us. "This song is so cool, we have to use this." And finally we did, and I'm so glad that we took the time to wait, because we probably wouldn't have finished it with a chorus and a bridge and everything. - Bullz-Eye
"I think our fans especially will-will be surprised to, uh, and maybe pleasantly surprised to see like, ‘Nearly Witches’ is the last song on the record. And that was something that was just a verse for the longest time, and we finally finished writing it. Uh, it took that amount of time to just take a-a breather from it, and then finally finish the song. So, I think they'll be happy to see that that's on the record." - Brendon interviewed by Andrew Freund
Also, according to Spencer in this interview, 'Nearly Witches' isn't technically a "Cabin song" (in that they didn't write it whilst in the cabin). It was a song that they started working on when they left the Cabin. So, from what I get from all these interviews about 'Nearly Witches', they kind of see it as the song that was from a transitional period from when they came down from the Cabin to when they were about to start properly working on Pretty. Odd.. Kind of like how Brendon sees 'The Ballad of Mona Lisa' being a transitional song out of the Fever era.
Now, you are allowed to agree or disagree with any of this, but please do not shoot the messenger. I've only go out to find the info and report back, it's not my fault if you don't like any of it.
Back to the stuff that's not going to anger the fandom:
I also spoke about the Stage Gay Brendon and Ian Crawford did during 'Nearly Witches' here during the Vices & Virtues tour.
What? You thought Dallon was the only one getting action on that tour? Nah. Brallon was just the more popular ship.
Brendon was not making fun of Ryan during the Vices & Virtues performances, not only is that rumour very obviously made up by a fan that joined in 2015-2016 (because no one in Vices & Virtues era thought this but suddenly this was a popular rumour in DOAB era), but Brendon used that voice all the time for even 'Hurricane' during "Oh kiss me!", and Brendon and Ryan were on talking terms and lived less than 20 miles away from each other at the time. It's a performance, sweetheart.
During the Intimate Evening with Panic! At the Disco pop up shows, Brendon and Spencer both started to really love playing 'Nearly Witches' live.
What's your favourite song to perform? Brendon: Oh wow! Don't think we've been asked that, that's a good question. Uh, to perform, right now, might be 'Nearly Witches'. It's a-it's a new song on our new record, and we've only played it four times, but it's it's awesome for us because we've been sitting on like part of the idea for about four years. So, to finally be able to play that for people is, like that means... you can't really put into words. It's just awesome. So, for me yeah, 'Nearly Witches'. Spencer: Yeah, we're actually able to perform that song with the choir that's sang it on the record, at the end of that song. They came out for the LA show so that was probably, like, the coolest individual performance that I think we've done. Having string players and a choir, and maybe we can, hopefully, do something like that on the tour, you know? It costs a lot of money. (laughs) I think we'd have to, like, get a school bus for all those kids or something. - x1039Phoenix
This is the show Spencer was talking about, you can't really hear the kids very well:
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Edit from 2024: Hi all, so the reason I wanted to especially emphasise what percentage of the son Ryan wrote is because I know there are some young/new Ryan Ross fans that seem to think that Ryan would've totally released this song at some point. Truth is that, no. He was well pass this type of music by mid-2007, and was onto writing Pretty. Odd.. Ryan wrote a part of the song, but this song doesn't match his current solo music or past sound with The Young Veins. Ryan was never going to finish the song. That is why Brendon and Spencer were frustrated by this, because they could tell the song was a good song and that the demo was recieved well by fans in 2008. Brendon and Spencer were not "stealing" the song, Ryan wouldn't have allowed them to use it if he had plans to do something with it, and without Brendon and Spencer the song likely would never have been finished and never would have seen the light of day.
#panic at the disco#panic! at the disco#brendon urie#spencer smith#ryan ross#nearly witches#Stop the Spencer Smith Erasure#Youtube
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So I keep finding Fall Out Boy songs that are absolute VIBES and I really like their work! I'm wondering if you have any recommendations, since you're a huge fan. No pressure, of course!!
ok so there's like, songs I just really like. songs that are pretty deep cuts. and songs that have Lore behind them that make me absolutely insane. I'm gonna give you a few of each
obviously their hits are hits for a reason. Sugar is so much fun to sing. Dance, Dance has a wicked fun bass part. Immortals and Centuries are both simply iconic. Grand Theft Autumn is a classic. I also really love The Last Of The Real Ones
I really like Alone Together, Fake Out (obviously sndkdnskfk) — actually, Hazel, do me a solid and just listen to all of So Much (For) Stardust straight through one time if you want/have a chance. it's so worth the like, hour of your time — Disloyal Order Of Water Buffaloes, Bob Dylan, and Hold Me Tight Or Don't. they're super good songs lyrically and musically I love them dearly they're not like, radioplay popular but they're decently well known?
as for some deeper cuts basically all of Folie A Deux is a banger despite the morality of some of the songs being iffy lol but hey. it bops we gotta be real here. I really really like the title track off of Save Rock And Roll (it makes me a bit emotional considering the band's journey through the years yknow?) as well as Miss Missing You. The Patron Saint of Liars and Fakes goes HARD. The Music Or The Misery is... a whole lot. Bang the Doldrums, an absolute BANGER of a song to jump around a room to, could technically go in the lore category but honestly. it's the song that would have been in Shrek 2 if DreamWorks weren't hecking cowards. The (After) Life Of The Party is one of my favorite songs EVER. Wilson (Expensive Mistakes) is basically my theme song.
as for like, Lore songs, Hum Hallelujah is actually one of THE songs that got me into FOB, as well as Coffee's For Closers — Hum is largely about FOB's lyricist and bassist's suicide attempt (not in a horribly depressing way actually, it's a reference and a homage to the song that he says saved his life), and CFC borrows lyrics from one of that guy's old blog post poetry things (which I actually reblogged earlier today). I've Got A Dark Alley And A Bad Idea That Says You Should Shut Your Mouth (Summer Song) (yes, by Fall Out Boy sjdkdksk) is also tangentially about Pete's attempt in that he wrote it around that time and it's very much about his own insecurities. a pretty dark, sad song but one I relate to a lot and it sounds SO pretty. Saturday, off their first (proper) record, is a song the lead singer wrote pretty much entirely about the band and specifically the aforementioned bassist/lyricist — very historical song but also the song I sing every time I get in the car to drive somewhere skdlfjssk.
listen ok this is a lot, so-
TL;DR, out of every song I've recced here, top 10 songs you should listen to by Chicago Softcore Rock Band Fall Out Boy:
Hum Hallelujah, Bob Dylan, Coffee's For Closers, The (After) Life Of The Party, Saturday, Bang the Doldrums, Wilson (Expensive Mistakes), Save Rock and Roll, Patron Saint of Liars and Fakes, The Last Of the Real Ones
also the entirely of SMFS start to finish. it's a cinematic experience despite being audio. it might change your life.
#so... I'm bad at favorites#jet pack blues is one that's a little lower key sonically if you like that also#idk.#Lu rambles#asks#fob
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tuesday again 3/28/2023
accidentally read five books.
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look i know there's a new fall out boy but i have conflicting opinions about that band bc i am no longer seventeen.
MARINA (formerly Marina and the Diamonds) was another artist coming up when i was in high school, but even though Family Jewels was one of the first albums i really got into, she has soundtracked far less of my life compared to FOB so listening to her is a little less fraught. nothing else has taken up space in my brain this week like the lyrics to hollywood: "hollywood infected your brain/you wanted kissing in the rain".
kind of obsessed how the music video cuts out an entire chunk of lyrics about dissatisfied flight attendants? also jesus christ this came out in 2010. BABY marina
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originally stuck in my brain bc my sister and i were talking about the musical chicago, and this song contains the lyrics "oh my god you look just like shakira/no wait you're catherine zeta/actually my name's marina"
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Star Wars: Dark Disciple by Christie Golden. ventress has never been my favorite of count dooku’s batmanesque kidnapped children. i respect her! she’s awful! i want to see her flirt with obi-wan more but maul (my beloved) has always had more screen time and depth.
it’s spackled together from most of a cancelled eight-episode clone wars arc and it kind of shows? this is not to say that star wars books are uninterested in the interiority of their characters, but we rarely get in their heads. star wars books are much more focused on what it looks like in the movie— there are big cinematic set pieces where it’s important to know exactly where everyone is in a fight.
golden writes a competent action scene. this is more than i can say for many star wars writers.
^ i am shoving my fist into my mouth and screaming.
anyway, one of my worst character traits is a latent previously discussed fondness for steampunk and a less latent fondness for urban fantasy.
i read Alexis Hall's Iron and Velvet Kate Kane book a million years ago possibly at the rec of @bronanlynchh during the new hampshire internship, one of the worst depressive periods of my life, but i did consume a lot of gay romance during that period. bc im in my noir era now, reread it and realized there were more! so i devoured them all over the weekend.
to quote @quaraxuanzenith who seems to be the only other person here who has read them recently,
have you ever thought, "Twilight sure is a book, but it would be better if Bella ( a ) realized that Edward is a weird controlling creep, ( b ) dumped him, ( c ) came out to herself as lesbian, and ( d ) went off to become a paranormal private investigator"?
these are just fun nonsense! i loved them and will buy paper copies after i move! i would not call these "spicy", but she falls in and out of the arms of SO many femmes and fatales (who sometimes overlap). there are SO many women throwing themselves at her. it is a delightful way of nodding at the genre's roots bc kate has some game! she doesn't have zero game! she not an oblivious useless lesbian archetype either! but she's usually like ?????? this person is OUT OF MY LEAGUE and never actually realizes a tall, tortured, sad, purple-eyed lady in a trenchcoat is catnip to nearly all wlw.
i think the third book hits its stride and flings you into a rapidly entangling web of loyalties and motivations that i really enjoy in a noir. i like how the author feels no need to write the YA vampire book trilogy she survived. i like how kate has a life going on apart from the stuff that happens in the books. she does not feel like she started existing the moment the book opens.
i finally understand the little old lady love of endless mystery series, bc this is some really comforting reading. i would read twenty of these. i trust that this author's got me and may fling some twists or red herrings at me but ultimately i won't turn the page and she'll be beaten in the street for being an out lesbian. okay so she does get whumped in the street but it's for case reasons
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virtuosity (1995, dir leonard). the tagline of this film is "Hell hath no fury like a composite of 183 serial killers. Meet Sid 6.7"
is this a Good film? oh god no. if you've seen the tv show interview with the vampire, it has the same contrasting vibes between the two leads, where one is turning in an incredible performance about a black man trying to hold onto family and dignity while the other is prancing around like a deranged show pony. except without the clarity of purpose or production values of a big budget amc tv drama. however, russell crowe (guy i love to see) put his whole ass into this performance. this is not a half-assed acting effort. it is a joy to watch him zip around screen while denzel washington is giving a very good performance as a disgraced, widowed ex-cop.
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this really throws a wrench into my whole "if a movie is about being afraid of a robot it's about being afraid of women" bc crowe is not a woman, but he is a malevolent neural network given an android body. a private company has a contract for a police training tool (the neural network trained on 183 serial killers who you can fight in VR) and is testing the interface on prisoners. i wish this movie had anything to say or critique about this three-way partnership other than using it as an inciting incident for what turns into a chase movie. the movie does not attempt to convince you this would be a good idea in a different private company's dev team but i wish the movie spent slightly less time going AAAAAA HOW TO STOP and any time at all going AAAAAAA HOW DID WE LET THIS HAPPEN
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i would call this film camp on vibes alone except it is almost completely uninterested in sensuality. the special effects have not aged very well at all, but the film has the same production designer (Nilo Rodis-Jamero) as Johnny Mnemomic (also 1995) so the film Looks.
why? it was leaving canopy soon and when my gender isn't "woman in the same way a sailing ship is a woman" it's "nineties movie club scenes"
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weird west! still! (image from the steam page bc i keep forgetting to take screenshots)
not terribly worried about the somewhat repetitive nature of the locations themselves, bc the enemy encounters are varied enough it feels like solving a new puzzle each time. also im still having fun.
i have been picking off guys from around the edges of enemy encampments with a silenced rifle and then tanking through this rest with a shotgun and liberal bandage application, as i am wont to do in shooty games, but i cannot currently break my husband out of a mine run by...cannibals? human traffickers to the cannibals? the xp-giving bad guys without getting one of my companions killed. i really don't want to ditch ann lara (i'm not entirely sure what her deal is? sort of a smooth-talking hustler archetype? but really good with pistols?) who has been with me for most of the eight hours i've played this game. the sheriff/my neighbor, along for the ride for her own reasons, has four times as much health as either of us so she's staying. she's been the only one left alive most of my attempts at this one FUCKING cave.
so i am looping back out into the world (sorry husband) to go think about some real tactics. practice my dodge rolls in a less tense environment. perhaps level up some guns and armor. now you might say "kay! isn't it worrying that you're hitting such a big difficulty cliff?" and to that i say "not really bc i cannot stress the amount of simply dicking around and exploring ive done, also i am not a clever woman."
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fallow week
#this is a little less edited and a little more chaotic than i would like but i have an appointment with a heating pad#tuesday again#tuesday again no problem#Youtube
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Ok, I need to know your fob album ranking and top 10 songs, GO!
oooh okay so i need to start by saying that i am heavily biased toward their older stuff because... i've listened to fall out boy since i was probably too young to listen to fall out boy AFGKJDF and their pre-hiatus albums essentially shaped my music taste and helped me get through a lot of difficult times in my life. so i'm really just generally more attached to them than the rest but i do like every single one of their albums at least a little because they all have songs i love. i also had to think about this a bit and am still not sure if it's a perfect ranking because i'm incredibly indecisive. but this is what i'm feeling right now! (also i apologize in advance for adding a bunch of commentary and rambling instead of just giving you the ranking LOL)
albums:
from under the cork tree - was the first FOB album i ever listened to so i'm biased but it's so fucking good. especially if you include the bonus tracks from it. there is not a single song on here that i don't love.
infinity on high - contains my favorite FOB song (okay maybe it's illogical that my #1 song is from my #2 album but listen... it's a very close #2), aesthetically has the coolest album cover, and it's just fantastic all around--again, especially if you include the bonus tracks.
take this to your grave - i feel like a lot of people hate TTTYG nowadays and i'll never understand why. it's a great album. it's classic pop punk and just pure fun.
folie a deux - literally never understood the hate this album got when it came out!! it's so good!! i remember listening to the whole thing the same day as it dropped and loving it and being so confused seeing how much people complained about it :(
so much (for) stardust - okay i actually love this album so much that #5 feels too low but if i switched it with folie then #5 would feel too low for folie so idk 😭😭 my favorite post-hiatus album BY FAR though. it's sooo good and it's also special to me because i literally never got to see fall out boy live until they toured for its release last year.
save rock and roll - has some misses for me, as do the albums i've ranked below it, but overall i like my favorite songs from SRAR more than i like my faves from the albums below, and it gets bonus points for how cool the youngblood chronicles is + the nostalgia i associate with FOB's return from their hiatus.
american beauty/american psycho - ABAP gets a lot of hate but i think it kind of rocks actually and putting it at #7 feels slightly wrong. it's really only this low because something has to be and because again, i like my favorite SRAR songs more than my favorite ABAP songs.
mania - i think a lot of people on here get mad if you put MANIA last so i'm sorry afksjgdsf. it honestly just has the lowest number of songs i really like and has several that i don't. though i will say that last of the real ones is a certified banger and i was so glad it had a permanent spot on the tourdust setlist.
songs:
hum hallelujah - my beloved 💙💙 when i saw FOB live they had a slot on the setlist where each night they'd either play bang the doldrums or hum hallelujah and i won't lie, i did feel disappointed for a second when doldrums started. i got over it because i love that song too but. hum hallelujah is one of my all time favorite songs.
i slept with someone in fall out boy and all i got was this stupid song written about me - my favorite song on FUTCT and another all time fave. i also think this is the funniest song title of all time btw.
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G.I.N.A.S.F.S. - so jealous of anyone who's gotten to see this played live as a magic 8-ball song :(
calm before the storm - this having a permanent spot on the tourdust setlist got me hyped like you wouldn't believe because they had last played it in 2007. underappreciated banger.
love from the other side - this was literally my top song of 2023 on my spotify wrapped. i made an angsty raeda gifset with lyrics from it not long after the single came out because it made me so insane.
sugar we're goin' down - might be a bit of a basic choice but it was the first FOB song i ever liked and it fucking slaps 💖 also when i saw them live i swear patrick changed the lyrics to "wishing to be the friction in his jeans" which is just. legendary and iconic of him.
disloyal order of water buffaloes
grand theft autumn/where is your boy - again, a basic choice, but sometimes things are popular for a reason!
the carpal tunnel of love
#asks#all-you-had-to-do-was-neigh#SORRY i can never just answer a question normally and have to write essays afskjgsdfg#picking just 10 favorite FOB songs is so hard honestly#i'd love to hear your ranking as well if you'd like to share it!!#fall out boy
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wait no ur yop 5 fob songs r all prehiatus i meant top 5 post hiatus sogs
LMAO I was about to tell you I kinda already did that. here we gooo I'm actually so grateful for this opportunity
So Much (For) Stardust title track. Literally changed the fucking game holy shit are you kidding me
Heaven, Iowa. god I love this song so bad it's unreal. everything to me. plus the title is a reference to one of my favorite movies like as soon as I heard about this one I knew I was gonna love it
So Good Right Now. I PROMISE this isn't going to all be sm(f)s but I have to include this one she's literally Charlie and I's SONG!!! like this is OURS! also the amount of times this song has ended up being thematically appropriate to my life is actually kinda freaky
Bishop's Knife Trick. oughoughoughhhgh. god. whenever I think about this song I go crazy. songs that make you have to sit down on the floor and stare at the wall for awhile just to get your bearings once they're over. pete wentz when I fucking GET you.
Centuries. yeah yeah I know it's overplayed or whatever and it's not as lyrically "deep" as some other fall out boy songs I DON'T CARE. this was the first fall out boy song I ever heard and she means a lot to me. are there other post hiatus songs I like a lot more? yes, absolutely. but in a top five I feel like I need to include her. this was like the craziest shit I'd ever heard as a little sheltered twelve year old kid just starting to branch out past his parents' music. let me have this.
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did you ever listen to the recent fob album? id love to hear your thoughts!
omggg i LOVED so much (for) stardust i have an abundance of thoughts!!
love from the other side is a good opening, i think it's a good song and sets the tone for the rest of the album well plus i love the sound and it gave us "what would you trade the pain for / im not sure" and other cool lyrics. one of the best choruses of the album also imo 8/10
heartbreak feels so good DOES feel pretty damn good no lie i lovee fall out boy cheesiness! 7/10
hold me like a grudge got me like i dont want heartbreak anymore i want to be loved now. the prechorus in this one is sooo addictive so good gets stuck in my head every time. patrick stump gets to sing his heart out i love it ALSO gave us "part time soulmate full time problem" 9/10
fake out understands me like every fob album has that song thats like My song and this is it . it's mine. THEE best chorus. i cant even articulate my feelings fully here. i feel a little cringe listening to it on repeat but thats my business and my business only 10/10
heaven, iowa is one i didnt rlly connect with unfortunately. ehhh 6/10 it sounds good naman and lyrics are good my heart just isn't in it
so good right now WHAT did i say about fall out boy cheese! i <3 mania the album and mania the psychiatric symptom and it shows. 7.5/10
the pink seashell i missed u fob spoken word....
i am my own muse i acc havent listened to this one that much which is a shame and i aim to rectify that immediately. 8.5/10
flu game my FAVORITE song on the entire album! i LITERALLY carved out a place in this world for two but it's empty without you..... also pretty cheesy but earnest and true last night i dreamt i still. knew. yOUUUUUUU!!! 10/10
baby annihilation I MISSED YOU FOB SPOKEN WORD...
the kintsugi kid not many thoughts abt this one actually. lol 6.5/10
what a time to be alive this song makes me soooo depressed you dont even know. 7.5/10 with the caveat that this song is the most likely to make me cry on the album
so much (for) stardust DESERVED title track what a song omfg. 9/10 we thought we had it all!!!! one of fob's best for sure like it is Up There for me. this entire album was so honest and this one is just as honest but more morose and more operatic which i think works WITH not against the rest of the album. optimism's dark underbelly. smth like that ANYWAY. loved.
thank u sm arby for asking this im sure u didnt expect this length but well. i have things i want to say and i thank you for hearing them 🥰
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Okay I haven't had a chance to properly listen to the album yet (with no distractions and lyrics in front of me) but I have listened to it on my way to and from the mall so... Thoughts on initial listen:
Love from the Other Side: perfect. Amazing. There's a very good reason it's a single AND the first track on the album. Very reminiscent of early fob, especially infinity on high and folie a deux era.
Heartbreak Feels So Good: Not my favorite, gets very repetitive at times, but still very very good, very catchy and easy to sing along to. Again, there's a reason this was one of the singles
Hold Me Like A Grudge: Yeah this is really good. Again, good reason for it to be a single. The lyrics "part time soulmate full time problem" are hilarious and also relatable
Fake Out: Great song. Very good to dance to
Heaven, Iowa: if I'm not mistaken, this is the song Patrick was fighting very hard to keep off the album. Very happy to say Patrick was very wrong, this song is amazing and perfect and hits so good. It's also one of the songs that's title isn't *in* the song, which feels like a solid callback to pre-hiatus fob
So Good Right Now: great song! Great to jam out to in your car while driving to the mall
The Pink Seashell: not really a song. It was interesting I guess? Will have to listen more closely
I Am My Own Muse: another song I will have to listen to more closely. Sounded good, unfortunately I was dodging traffic and dealing with an unruly parking lot when this came on so didn't get a good listen
Flu Game: also didn't get a good listen to this song. Im pretty sure I liked it a lot but will def have to give another listen. Another song where the title is not in the song
Baby Annihilation: oh yeah Pete Wentz poetry. Solid callback to when Pete would just recite poetry and the end of songs. Specifically feels very close to his outro in 20 Dollar Nosebleed, but like updated? Part of me wishes it had been tied to a specific song, but another part respects it being left solo
The Kintsugi Kid: SO GOOD! One of my favorites on the album. It just hit really really good
What A Time to Be Alive: also one of my favorites. Absolute bop.
So Much (For) Stardust: y'all. This one. This is the best song. There's a good reason this is the album title. There's a good reason this is the last track. It is fucking incredible. I literally started crying. I knew it was gonna be good just from the opening violins, but holy shit. I cried through the whole song cuz it was just so good.
This whole album feels like a love letter to their past selves. And also their future selves. It's a love letter to everything they've ever created and everyone that's ever passed through their lives, even for just a moment. Lots of the songs have to do with love or heartbreak and I don't think it's about specific people but about specific times in their lives. I don't know. It's a really good album and I love it a lot. It's a really good balance of pre-hiatus fob, post-hiatus fob, and a completely new sound that they had yet to touch on until now.
I will be listening to this for the next week, and crying over how much this band has always meant to me and will always mean to me.
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Probably unpopular take:
Post-hiatus (from a vocalist standpoint) is performance wise and quality wise MUCH better. Now, as someone whose favorite albums are Folie, IOH, and SMFS, I prefer the composition of pre-hiatus, but people who shit on post-hiatus are just so genuinely inept and have a lack of understanding for the work that goes into these albums. I literally want to tear people apart when they shit on post-hiatus work, and then turn around and go “omg!!! SMFS!!! <333” like you’re allowed To not like the albums and have a preference, but saying the albums are bad just pisses me off. Also, I hate Petekey. I am a literal Petekey-anti (/hj). Idc if it happened, people need to literally shut up about Michael James Way EVERY TIME PETE WRITES A LYRIC EVEN REMOTELY RELATED TO LOVE, HEARTBREAK, OR SUMMER. LIKE PLS SHUT UPPPP 😭 these people are equating FOB’s entire success and talented and beautiful lyricism to this one emo twink whom Pete had an ALLEGED thing with. Like cmon man, his pussy was not THAT good. It’s been 15+ years, I don’t think Pete is STILL writing every song about Mikey. If he ever even did. Anyways, GINASFS and Miss Missing You belong to Peterick. PETERICK FOREVER RAAAHHHHH (platonic or romantic idc I just love them together)
anyways- sorry, that was a lot. Have a good day, user KintsugiKid!! (I’m so Sorry I don’t remember your name) ❤️
this ask is so incredibly funny and so so so unimaginably correct oh my god 😭 i just saw the ask you sent apologizing for maybe sounding aggressive in this but bestie, you are only stating objective truths u do not sound mean or aggressive at all HFKRNFK it is absolutely Undeniably okay to have preferences for some albums or sounds over others, but what is Not okay is being a dick about it like. you can like pre-h more without acting like post-h is the worst music ever made. fob does not make bad music. the thing w fob is that none of it is bad, it is literally Just up to personal preference!!!! anyone who acts like anything else is true is annoying and mean!!!! and also. i could go on and on about how fucking annoying petekey is and how disrespectful and insane it is for people to act like pete is STILL writing about him almost 20 years later like. girl. if anything did happen i Promise pete has moved on he has more Things and people to write about than that i pinky prommy <3 all of that is to say you are an icon for these opinions and how you worded them dont feel bad at all for speaking your Truth!!!!!
#also yeah literally any song they think is abt mikey is actually abt patrick. to me.#patrick is literally petes soulmate he said so so. checkmate <3#asks#anon
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(For the get to know about blogger post) MCR and Fall out boy album recommendations, all is a good answer but maybe 1 or 2 each lol
fuck it, I'm answering this right away because I can't sleep 😎
for MCR, I'll always recommend The Black Parade. as good as all their other albums are, that one has been my favorite since day one (even if I can't listen to the song Cancer anymore lol). I played that album when I was at my lowest in high school like it was a war cry; plus the two opening tracks go hard as fuck.
for FOB, I'll give you two album recs, one pre-hiatus and one post-hiatus: Infinity On High, and Save Rock and Roll. I think I like both of these albums for the same reason - a lot of the context and lyricism on these two can be read as metacommentary about FOB's career. IOH was their follow-up to From Under the Cork Tree, which is the album that made them superstars, and SRAR was their post-hiatus comeback album, complete with a set of music videos allegorically exploring their relationships to fame and each other in gory detail (literally; the Young Blood Chronicles is whumpy as shit). IOH wasn't always one of my favorite albums (when I was in high school I liked Folie a Deux more), but the older I get the more I understand and appreciate IOH for the masterpiece that it is. And SRAR was the first FOB album I ever listened to, so I could talk about that one forever. Plus, the YBC and the Pax Am Days EP are a package deal with SRAR, and both of them rewired my brain.
but yeah, with both FOB and MCR, all of their albums are good and you can't really go wrong with any of them
thanks for the ask, grim <3
(also if y'all ever want a detailed breakdown or tier list of my thoughts on FOB's discography, let me know because I absolutely can do that! can't really with MCR though; I was never as big of a fan of them lol)
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my review of Bring Me The Horizon's POST HUMAN: NeX GEn...
k so, I didn't know it was released til 15 min ago. also just got the Angry Oli Maid Pics. I have a feeling that I know how this first listen is gonna go, but who knows.
[ost] dreamseeker - no rating
If any of this is Eve from the concerts, I'll have to skip the OSTs, because AI scares me (been giving me nightmares for months now). Anyway, this just seems to be a clip of filler/ambient noise. I'll only give ratings to actual songs (longer than 2 min & w/singing).
2. YOUtopia - 5/10
I keep hoping it'll get better as I listen...it just sounds kinda whiny & maybe it was a Jordan Fish thing, but there's no build really. Of course, the name of the song is a pun...IDK. Song sounds a lot more hopeful than I thought it would, since I thought POST HUMAN was all apocalyptic/post-. Giving this a 5.
3. Kool-Aid - 8/10
Pretty sure they already released all the good stuff. I remember hating how "heavy" this sounded initially, but I love this song now. It's an anthem for...something. I guess it's a warning tale for cults, hence why I thought this was an "end-of-the-world" type thing. Solid 8.
4. Top 10 staTues tHat CriEd bloOd - 6/10
IDK why I just thought of FOB's Under the Cork Tree. Probably because I'm getting a pop-punk sound (apart from the fairy techno) that's either UtCT or maybe a lighter That's The Spirit (specifically, "Avalanche"). The sound definitely matches that of "LoST". I keep asking myself if BMTH's songs usually repeat the same parts musically & lyrically...I don't remember. If they do, I didn't notice.
5. liMOusine (ft. AURORA) - 6/10
Optimistic about this one! As long as it picks up...I like the guest singer's voice! It's beautiful on it's own & it complements Oli's pretty well. I'm thinking there should be (based on what BMTH usually does in its collaborations & what I think would go well) a section where he screams while she sings...ah, here we go. I guess I was thinking about what happens in AmEN. Hmm...I suppose they wanted a slower song.
6. DArkSide - 10/10
RAHHHH! I love this song sm. Again, I think all that we heard before today is probably the best parts of PH: NG. This is my favorite BMTH song (the last one Jordan worked on, I think). Pretty sure we've all heard the comparisons to Linkin Park for this one 😊. I love how it ebbs & flows but ultimately is a complete song, one that sounds great onstage, makes me dance, has a message & uses all of Oli's range.
7. a bulleT w/ my namE On (ft. Underoath) - 7.5/10
Immediate mixed feelings here. I love the part where the guitar & drums kick in. It always takes me a second listen to get used to the parts where Oli screams because I don't always expect them. I don't like when they edit his vocals to sound super-techno because then it's almost like implying he can't sing without autotune. OMG I can hear Jordan in the background...then I hear "guess this is goodbye" RIP, man. Have we ever had a song where he clearly sings backing (w/o muffling)? Oh, well. ANYWAY. This song fits the BMTH style, I think. IDK what it's saying at the end--I'm never a fan of editing in stuff that can't be understood unless it's a rhythmic thing.
8. [ost] (spi)ritual - 7.5/10
Best of the OSTs so far. It's a chill lil bop. *looks up the lyrics* oh sHIT. I had to pause it because apparently it's an occult ritual used to clear the room of negative energy prior to doing another ritual & um...I'm no expert in this stuff, so I'm just gonna skip to the next song!
9. n/A - 8/10
OK initially I thought this was a bad joke of a song, given Oli's past addictions & time in a mental hospital. It's actually a good song musically & lyrically. I just feel really awkward listening to it. I think it's referring to how he relapsed during COVID...the music video part of Spotify shows a demented kid's picture...
10. LosT - 9/10
Again, we got the good part. I think we all know the message behind this, which I respect considering how many meds I've gone through trying to improve my own mental health. I have thoughts (positive) about the music video, but this isn't a music video post-! "LoST" has the ebb & flow that I love. "Too much to take, I can't fucking stand it" & "I think I'm gonna break down" are my favorite parts. I can only love screaming when it's done to emphasize clean singing &/or the melody.
11. sTraNgeRs - 8/10
All I'll say is...I prefer this version to the acoustic & my favorite part is "take us back to yesterday" (that whole thing before the last chorus).
12. R.i.p. (duskCOre Remix) - 9/10
This is the first new song that I actually like. I love the "club" songs that BMTH makes, where they sound happy but the lyrics are metal as hell. The "make me the villain if you want" *side-eyes The Darkling* I feel like that man has heard a BMTH song.
13. AmEN (ft. Lil Uzi Vert & Daryl Palumbo) - 10/10
I'm not familiar w/Daryl Palumbo, so I'm not sure what part he sings/screams, but I love this song. It's almost like a dramatic monologue, in the way that I can imagine someone doing all these over-the-top gestures as they sing each part of the song (maybe using puppets). I know I'm mouthing the words every time the song comes on (even though I still don't know the screamed part at the beginning, lol).
14. [ost] p.u.s.s.-e
Very interested to see what the acronym stands for (if it stands for anything)...welp, the Genius annotation says it's about a drug created by the fictional Church of Genxsis to "suppress people who will not obey their will" o-o don't fuck w/cults, kids.
15. DiE4u - 10/10
o-o just releasing how long it's been since this was released. This is bringing up angsty memories...anyway, I love the music video for this (Oli's a Real Vampire Agenda) & I love the pacing of the song. IDK why the "lemme see my halo" part sounds so good.
16. DIg It - 7/10
Fuck, I think this might be Eve talking...*scans some of the lyrics* OK the song's actually alright. Just don't look up the song on Genius unless you want some meta-AI-related stuff. I can tell this isn't supposed to be a banger as much as it is a sad song. It reminds me of Oli's monologue (done while high) on Music to Listen to...("Underground Big", I think?) & it could definitely be used on a soundtrack IMHO. I'd love to hear Oli just sing something chill w/o editing.
Alright, the average of all the ratings is...
5 + 8 + 6 +6 + 10 + 7.5 + 7.5 + 8 + 9 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 10 + 7 = 111
111/14 = 7.9 out of 10
So to me, about half the songs were good. I've felt that way about albums before. I wonder how they finished the album considering that Jordan left in December & yet he's credited on the songs. I don't think this album will be given high ratings, but if it wins an award...I wonder how that'll go down. Anyway, yay for angry maid pics!
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What’s your favorite FOB album and also just songs in general?
As a very avid Fall Out Boy fan, this question makes me vibrate.
Like I could probably rank all of the albums from my favourite to my least favourite, because imo there is nothing Fall Out Boy has put out that isn't phenomenal. I can put all of their songs on shuffle and have a good time (also, to me, their albums represent different moods).
But generally, the album that means the most to me in terms of nostalgia and one that really connects to my soul - Folie a Deux. It's the album that got me into Fall Out Boy.
And it's actually such a weird story.
My sister was like 13/14 and I was 11/12, and my sister was getting into that stage of life where she hated hanging out with me and she thought that having to drag me around to hang out with her friends wasn't cool. And I thought she was the coolest person on earth as my older sister, and I wanted to dress like her, act like her - basically, live in her shadow because imo, she was the coolest person alive. And I started listening to Hedley because I knew she liked them, and she got pissed. (And it was one of those teenager petty things, but looking back, I understand why, because she was just looking for her own identity at the time.)
And so she went into her room and got me the Folie a Deux CD and said 'here, you should listen to this. and this can be your band that only you listen to. and Hedley can be my band that only I listen to.' - and I just thought it was cool that she was giving me a music rec, but the reason she was giving me Folie a Deux was because she didn't like it lmao.
But when I listened to it - it really like wrenched open something deep inside of my soul. And after that, I sought out every single other piece of Fall Out Boy music I could ever get my hands on (including demos, including A Night Out With Your Girlfriend) - and I worshipped them, not knowing I had started listening to them during the hiatus era.
So the day they announced their comeback, I literally sobbed. And I played My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark approximately 200 times on loop and I knew all the lyrics for it within 24 hours.
Fall Out Boy has always had such a special place in my heart, and always will.
Also, generally my favourite songs: The Music or The Misery (this one gets me every fucking time), Hold Me Like A Grudge (the new album is fire, but this one is my fav off the whole album), Dear Future Self (their singles are amazing and this is such a random one, I love it), Dance Dance (it's a basic ass bitch answer but if you play this I will scream every single lyric at the top of my lungs and do Pete's weird dance from the music video), like hmm ??? what else. every single song of theirs is amazing so I have a hard time picking favourites - Bob Dylan, From Now On We're Enemies, Miss Missing You, Young Volcanoes, Where Did The Party Go. So many more!!!
Also, I will reference Fall Out Boy wherever possible in my fics. I literally love them so much. I used to have some of their lyrics painted on my walls in the most 2015 Tumblr girly way possible lmao
Anyway, thank you for asking me this. This has been my autistic serotonin spike for the day
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mayor of patrick world
rediscovering the joy of fall out boy, my chemical romance, and other adjacent bands. but mostly, fall out boy.
warning: this blog is not safe for work or minors! if you are under 17, i really don't feel comfortable with you following me & if i find out and will block you. in addition to general tumblr tomfoolery, i am warning you that there might occasionally be a rpf jumpscare (it’s all in good fun), so if that bothers you it might be best to turn around now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i don't usually find these very helpful but DNI if:
you're racist, homophobic, a terf, bigot, or any other piece of shit. i don't tolerate that! i will block on sight.
a petekey truther. meaning, you think that every single lyric has ever written over pete's 20+ year career is about one guy he met during the summer.
you actually don't like fall out boy but you call yourself a "fan"
you don't think that every member of the band brings something unique to the table & that their input and experiences are vital to the creative process
idk, those are the big ones. but i will also just block if i find you annoying <3
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more about me
here are some fun little facts about me:
im an aquarius sun, leo moon, and an infj
when i'm not on tumblr i'm reading, writing, or studying - i'm a grad student studying english literature :)
i beta-read and copy edit fanfiction, short stories, and manuscripts on fiverr (tho i'd be happy to look over your work free of charge, if you're looking for a beta-reader/editor!)
my favorite fob albums are ioh and folie (don't ask me to pick between the two, please)
that seems like the most important info right now. if you want to know more, or just want to chat, my inbox is always, always open! i love making new friends :)
thanks for taking the time to read this, and i hope to see you around! xoxo
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