#iswm action hero mark

[groven4]

ACTION HERO MARK ICONS

you're free to use these without credit. they're literally just screenshots.

[trashbag-usa]

it feels like a lot of people have given up on fully connecting ISWM/Engie Mark to the wider lore (aka WKM) since IRL Mark straight up told us he wasn't Actor.

but not only am i a stubborn son of a bitch, but yknow what Mark also said?

"Engineer Mark isn't Actor Mark, but Actor Mark just might be Engineer Mark."

so hear me out, y'all.

preamble; if you saw this in a yt comment section, no you didn't. (that was also me i didnt steal this i prommy-)

i have this entirely insane theory about iswm that Engineer Mark is actually Damien, but only sometimes.

the most obvious places i can spot him is in the abandoned ship with the candles ("captain needs their sleep" and whatnot), as Old Mark (specifically in the empty diner), and most definitely as the "Mark" we see as part of the finale, the one who realizes he was wrong.

Actor is allergic to admitting fault so I Don't Believe That's Him.

this explains the thematic focus on sleep and rest in these scenes, things told to Damien and told to US by DARK several times.

("Don't remember" anyone?)

speaking of Dark, it explains why he isn't there. we DO however see the suspiciously Darkiplier-esqe Ms. Whitacre, which it isn't controversial to say atp is CLEARLY Celine.

that is, until the universe does its final kablooey and Dark as we know him, Damien attributes and all, comes to take the warp-crystal.

and besides, think about it.

given Actor's whole goal in all this, as laid out in the Damien Project, do you REALLY think he would write a story in which all problems arise from HIS OWN NEGLIGENCE? NO!

that would make him a villain, and all he ever wants is to be portrayed as the hero, literally for eternity!

but you know what i think he would do? set up a farce for the most troublesome of his "co-stars".

you, the viewer, want genuine choices? you want to have some real control over the story? some responsibility? FINE.

everyone looks to you, but under your leadership everything goes wrong, no matter what. you don't know why, but you're actively villinized and the harder you try to go back and fix things, achieve an "ending" on your own, the more people HATE you. the more the thought that maybe there IS something wrong with you specifically will stick in your mind as a possibility.

all these options, but none of them "right", creating MORE suffering instead of fixing it just to find that ever elusive end.

damien wants control of the narrative? he wants his old friend, you, the District Attorney to be released from his eternal story and given back to him? FINE.

here's his role back in earnest, given the possibility to engage and choose instead of intrude and twist like usual.

(yes, i do think Damien/Engineer is genuinely going down his own hopeless path while we find our own. in one of the descriptions leading to the final "Hold On/Let Go" confrontation, it says "you're not the only one making choices. you're not alone, you never were".)

he is allowed to fight for the safety of others, side by side with his closest companion, just as they did when they were alive.

BUT, the twist is Damien becomes a genuine villain. in his quest to do the altruistic thing and help at all cost, he is personally responsible for the death of LITERALLY EVERYONE EVER.

this is a personal hell for someone like Damien, as seen from WKM, all he ever seemed to want was help others and guide them towards peace.

for his actions/leadership to fail so unthinkably catastrophically, seems like the exact hell a bitter Actor would want to subject his "old friend" to for meddling. :/

Actor sets the stage for a theatrical punishment game. Mayor and Attorney, together again, taking an impossibly long stay in a personally crafted hell for the horrendous crime of ever even thinking they'd be worthy of ✨️staring roles✨️.

Actor turns you two against each other, and once Damien is brough down to the depths of despair and you have finally learned that true responsibility can lead to catastrophic, painful results, we're brought back to our proper places.

you go to a proper ending, with the Engineer role now being played by Actor once and for all, and Damien once again becomes part of Darkiplier, pocketing the warp-crystal to plant on the box in Heist.

Engineer isn't Actor, it's a role he plays when it suits him and his goals, to make his enemies suffer. he's willing to be Damien's understudy, if only for this purpose.

but at the end of the journey, Actor becomes Engineer to take in the fruits of his labor. ..and maybe invite you to a Heist while he's at it.

BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A

very long winded """theory""" that is pretty much only insane fanfiction-

[purple-star-eyes]

Okay so about MatPats Theory,

-Spoiler warning-

I think he got most details correct. After all most of us did get the hint that Ms. Whitacare has a striking similarity to Celine.

I believe he did get a few tiny things wrong that I will point out here:

It isn't just the old Mark that is Actor Mark. (After all there is an ending that shows Actor "behind the scenes") Which seems to show us that he really is every Mark... he is an actor after all.

In Who killed Markiplier at the very end when Darkiplier looks in the mirror there is still the key detail that... when he walks away... we are still there. We dont move. He does. Which yes could suggest that we are playing as him, but it gets pointed out again and again not just in universe but also on Mark's explanation streams, that we are a character. "Y/N" is a character in universe.

So while I think the Hero-Villain dynamic he pointed out is interesting, And that the "We were Dark all along" could be a possible plot twist, I dont think this is the only way this could go...

After all ISWM is a direct continuation to Adwm and Ahwm. Where Dark and Will show up SEPERATE from us.

But considering the code MatPat did read out (with the 7 Gods) I think this does mean we are straight on the ramp to a showdown of sorts.

Personally I'd love to see Actor have to face the consequences of his actions and come to terms with the fact that he DID hurt people... I do wonder if the regret he shows is just an act tho.

That does lead me to wonder what Celine's Ms. Whitacare's line was about then...

"Do you even know who you are?"

Could it be... are we possessed by the evil house entity?! Is that why Mark thinks we're the villain? IS THAT WHY DARK WANTS OUR SOUL?!

but then where does Damien fit into all of this. Especially since Mark has been teasing his phrase of "Life is ours to choose" from "Hunie Pop" to "Try not to crash simulator"

.....Aaaargh we will have to wait and see I guess.....

@projectwkm @ragingstinkingrottengay @chelseareferenced @trashbunnysblog @falseroar @theawesomeraccoon

[captain-solemn-titty]

its really more of the opposite- a!mark is the one who trapped dark and everyone else in this superhell and now he has to face the consequences of his actions. thats part of the reason dark wants revenge in the first place.

a!mark creates these stories to live out in which he is the “perfect hero.” as an actor, every scenario he’s a part of in adwm, ahwm, and iswm is another part of his story. he’s the one with the control, or at least most of it. the giewer obviously has choices to make and the reoccurring egos like wilford and dark seem to have free will, but dark, in particular, plays into his role as the villain in seeking revenge on mark for literally taking everything from him and forcing him into a world where “death doesnt mean the same thing”

at least thats my understanding

ISWM theory time!

In Space With Markiplier! I’m super excited and that trailer is beautiful I keep watching it over and over, I cannot WAIT for it to come out!

But there was something that caught my interest and now suddenly I’m theorizing abt the lore and stuff (I’ve been watching fnaf videos a lot I think that’s affecting me a little bit).

In the trailer Mark repeats the words, “I always come back and I always come back,” over and over, getting increasingly more distraught and angry. My immediate thoughts went to how Mark technically comes back in all the different timelines/routes even when he dies in one. And we remember all of them, but what if Mark does too? Darkiplier certainly does, as he basically confirms in AHWM.

So maybe Mark remembers every timeline, including the ones he dies in. And expanding on that, I think he’s Actor!Mark (from WKM) which is a popular theory supported by how arrogant he acts in a couple routes in ADWM and AHWM (i think ending 30 in AHWM?)

Since he’s Actor!Mark (yknow, an actor) he is forced to act like he doesn’t remember each timeline, but maybe he starts to break in ISWM after dying a bunch of times. But then that begs the question: why is he here at all? Why is he in this loop and remembering everything?

The answer is obvious: Darkiplier clearly wants revenge on Actor!Mark for ruining his life. So, he created a world (possibly through Celine, since it’s been shown she can create pocket universes like the one in DAMIEN) and trapped Mark in there, forcing him to relive his deaths over and over and then reviving because of the effect of The WKM House.

I don’t think Wilford was involved because he doesn’t seem to care about revenge or anything really. Personally I think he infiltrated/hacked his way into the time looping worlds of ADWM, AHWM, and probably ISWM (if IRL Mark decides to continue to tradition of including Wil and Dark…) just like he accidentally infiltrated Damien’s world with the pink flowers.

TLDR: Darkiplier trapped Actor!Mark in superhell as the ultimate revenge (FNAF Ultimate Custom Night style) and forces him to relive his deaths through the different routes in ADWM, AHWM, and now ISWM.

[groven4]

Markiplier Egos LGBTQ+ Headcanons pt.2

a/n: Figured I'd share some more of these while we're still in June.

[part 1]

DR. IPLIER

(he/him)

Cis-male

Queer

THE HOST

(he/they)

Agender

Demiromantic Asexual / Pan

BIM TRIMMER

(he/him)

Cis-male

Gay

ERIC DEREKSON

(he/him)

Transmasc

Pansexual

YANDEREPLIER

(any pronouns)

Transfem / Non-binary

Pansexual [maybe demi-aroace??]

THE JIMS

(are individuals with their own separate and equally valid identit- just kidding, it's a hive mind.)

(no pronouns - jim/jim)

Jimgender

Jimsexual [unlabeled]

DAMIEN

(he/him)

Cis-male

Biromantic Demisexual

THE COLONEL

(he/him)

Cis-male

Pansexual

THIEFIPLIER (HEIST MARK)

(he/him)

Cis-male

Bisexual

ACTION HERO MARK

(he/him)

Cis-male

Pansexual