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Been thinking about how Bill legitimately had a horrifying reason (the literal progressive disintegration of the nightmare realm that erases whatever it disintegrates from existence completely) to move himself and his crew into a new dimension. Like that's terrifying. And yet he never utilizes this to his favour. He could have been honest about this with Ford, and you KNOW as long as Bill didn't mention plans of overtaking the earth, Ford would've made the portal for him, both out of Ford's own interest and because Ford when faced with these big moral questions will pull through. But this is a card Bill NEVER plays because although he needs to leave the dimension, he cannot lose face. He can't put aside his pride and admit to the humility that he needs to flee from his dimension, that he's not actually all powerful. And so instead he pretends to be a muse and when Ford figures out something else is going on, instead of being open and humble and saying that his dimension is unravelling, Bill focuses on that he's going to over take earth, that he's actually been a monster all along, surprise Ford!
And part of it is definitely because Bill's built himself up on power and violence and to grovel and earnestly ask for help, to admit that he cannot stop the unraveling of his dimension completely invalidates that; showing vulnerability? Can't do that, even under the guise of lying to get his way. And part of it makes you wonder if it's also a form of self-sabotage, because underneath his deep denial Bill is guilty over what he occurred; he sees himself as a monster and so he'll be that monster, and having people recognize that feels good in the same way that pressing a bruise feels good. But it makes you wonder what would've happened if Bill even just was open about his dimension unravelling and had lied about overtaking the earth.
It's also interesting because although Bill has SOME charisma and can manipulate people decently well (as evidenced by his cult, and pandering to people's desires with Ford, Mabel and Blendin), he refuses to be vulnerable, refuses to not be true to his off-putting self, even when if he was just vulnerable of pretended to not be himself, to put aside the (false) pride he has in himself he would've gotten a portal by now. and part of me wonders if it's because it's this false pride that built on insecurity and denial on who he is he cannot drop that mask.
Further thoughts on this!
#hugin rambles#hugin rambles gf#uhhhh yeah anyways Bills a delightfully complex character#and I think thats why also Bill fell hard for Ford is because Ford was vulnerable with Bill and actually CARED for Bill and got to peer#into the vulnerable bits of Bill and cared for him#but yeah fascinating. rotating him in my head whooo#bill cipher#billford#the book of bill#TBOB#gravity falls#but seriously the idea of Bill becoming honest with Ford instead of being like HAHA I TRICKED YOU bounces around the ol noodle with vigor#like dude thats a HUGELY typical self sabotage thing. like why YES im what people think i am.#hes interesting because hes good at manipulation. but also at the same time bad at it because he refuses to not be himself.#which... yanno i can respect. truth to being yourself even if thats offputting and annoying. but certainly makes it more difficult#re: manipulation. and then there was ford who was just. really into Bill in entirety#congrats! you guys match each others freak and toxic neediness to the t#gravity falls meta
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Holy forking shirtballs
I'm choosing violence today. I started this on Twitter, but I'm going to finish my thoughts here like I always do.
But what really blows my mind the most is the way that people look at Aziraphale's "choice" at the end, as if he had one to fucking begin with.
I'm sorry, but Aziraphale knows how messed up Heaven is. He told The Metatron, more than once, that he did not want to go back to Heaven! We can debate what each of us means by "choice" all night because my "choice" and your "choice" might be two different concepts. He could have been strong armed by The Metatron or he could have looked at where things were headed and realized he had no choice but to intervene himself.
You need to ask yourself what Aziraphale has a moral imperative to do.
What do we owe to each other?
Seriously, if you have not watched The Good Place, I recommend you go and watch it, because it absolutely shaped how I've viewed Good Omens 2 since its release.
My levels of frustration with the bad faith mischaracterizations of Aziraphale are off the charts. If you are blaming him for everything, implying that he should have to grovel and that Crowley has a right to hurt him back, you have missed the point of Good Omens entirely.
I defend Aziraphale, but I don't think one of them is more right or wrong than the other. They're equals. They're a group of the two of them, acting and reacting to each other throughout history. They're Alpha Centauri.
I cannot even begin to explain how fucking devastated I felt when Crowley said these words, knowing he was fighting a losing battle. What he said took a lot of courage because he's finally admitting something they've both been too scared to publicly define for 6,000 years. Crowley has had to spend so long with a rough outer shell because he fell and had to hide all of his softness.
The look on his face was one of pure joy when he created that nebula, but I think the fact that he got to share that moment with Aziraphale is what has always stuck with him.
So yeah, seeing Crowley with a broken heart at the end of "Every Day" was sad for me as well.
My brain still lives here!!
But Neil has said that Good Omens 3 is not quiet, gentle, or romantic. I imagine it's going to be more like the the first season in which they are not central to the plot. GO2 will help us make sense of how they ended up where they are when we see the bigger picture with all the other major players involved with GO3.
Aziraphale was still a soldier and accidentally got himself discorporated in his own magic circle in season one. He had a platoon waiting on him to start Armageddon, and he deserted them to go save the world with Crowley instead. Aziraphale is a deserter. I need everyone to remember that. He yeeted himself out of Heaven and sought out Crowley before even locating a body just to warn him about what was happening so they could try to save the world together.
I can't help but think of 1941 and that magician who had been arrested for being a deserter.
Aziraphale disobeyed orders. That took courage but it branded him as a traitor against Heaven. They tried to destroy him for it the same way Hell tried to destroy Crowley for his part in stopping the war.
Aziraphale and Job are the only characters we have seen interacting with God directly. Aziraphale has spoken to God before and he is determined to do so again.
Aziraphale knows Heaven is flawed, but he also knows it's supposed to be good. He wants it to be good. He does not like the way the system works and he wants to make a difference. (And I'm pretty sure he's also determined to talk to God without being intercepted by The Metatron.)
Since when is that a bad thing? I don't get it. And I've had this discussion before.
If you need to change the system by burning the old one to the ground, it's still change, and we don't know what Aziraphale has planned.
It seems to me that people just want to see Aziraphale fail because it would punish him for returning to Heaven instead of running off with Crowley.
Some of y'all take everything Aziraphale says or does and twist those things into malicious anti-Crowley actions because you think the only reason Aziraphale exists is to make Crowley happy, and if he isn't thinking only about Crowley then he's doing something wrong.
Aziraphale does not exist as a plot device to further Crowley's character. They come as a pair. They've been learning from each other for 6,000 years. Crowley challenges Aziraphale just as much as Aziraphale challenges him.
You can be mad at Aziraphale all you want, but villainizing him is gross. Defending Crowley does not mean you have to tear down and mischaracterize Aziraphale anymore than defending Aziraphale means you have to tear down Crowley (but I don't see that happen on nearly the same level it happens to Aziraphale). Stop painting Aziraphale as an abusive partner, for fuck sake.
Aziraphale knows there are flaws in the system. He wants to make a difference, and since he has seen that Gabriel can change, then maybe the whole system can. He has to at least try, and if he can succeed then maybe he and Crowley can stop hiding and finally be together without having to look over their shoulders all the time.
Why is that a bad thing? He's just as protective of Crowley as Crowley is of him!
But don't forget that Aziraphale's wing was covering Adam and Eve too. As much as a wants to protect Crowley, he has a moral imperative to keep humanity safe as well.
He sent Adam and Eve into the unknown with a flaming sword so they could protect themselves.
As much as he wants to be with Crowley, there are 8 billion people on Earth heading toward the Second Coming and Judgment Day. They'll work together to fight alongside humanity in the end. Aziraphale should not have to humiliate himself just to earn Crowley's forgiveness. That's a rancid notion.
The Resurrectionist was a whole ass moral dilemma for Aziraphale, which is why I brought up The Good Place earlier, but that's a post for a different time.
Aziraphale has his own motivations and they're just as important as Crowley's, and they don't have to be chalked up to Aziraphale being the bad guy. Weird, I know, but shades of grey.
"To the world."
#good omens#good omens 2#aziraphale#crowley#aziraphale defense squad#yeah i'm being bitchy#no i don't care if you're offended#no i'm not interested in your aziraphale hate#i'm not interested in hearing takes about aziraphale being toxic from people who can't even be objective#some of y'all need to watch the good place because you need a lesson in moral philosophy#we should be able to have discussions about the characters without gross takes calling aziraphale abusive#az and crowley approach everything from wildly different perspectives because of where they are#just admit y'all shit on az because he doesn't look or act like crowley#I'm so done with the shitty aziraphale takes#they aren't even interesting enough to debate#they're just annoying
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Everyone wants to talk about Bones cutting out Dazai's full on belly laugh with tears in his eyes at skk's in joke but nobody talks about Bones cutting out Dazai's adorable anticipation of Chuuya actually doing it. Dazai was so hopeful about it. Cause like that was confirmation that they were 100% alright.
LOOK AT THAT DERPY LIL FACE! I WANNA NOM HIM!
#soukoku#skk#serioualy this scene got removed and suddenly everyone acts like Dazai is some toxic asshole who only wants to belittle Chuuya#instead of just reverting to annoying toddler besties behaviour#his little go go go go
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“You won?”
Huh, sure do wonder how these two resolved things 👀
(This is so cringe guys I’m sorry 💀)
The more I read it the more I think it doesn’t really involve the ship, but I tried. More importantly though I wanna emphasize how their relationship is though. BLU Spy loves messing with RED Engie, and RED Engie is constantly paranoid with his surroundings, ESPECIALLY around his babies (his machines). So I thought, if RED Engie was able to pull one over on BLU Spy, how would Spy react?..
Conclusion: Spy doesn’t care. He finds Engie “amusing”.
#TF2#Team Fortress 2#Now way this ain’t cringe bro#But uh seriously tho#I think imma portray these two as enemies that constantly bicker with each other. spy doing is for fun and Engie just being annoyed asf#I love the idea of Spy just constantly messing with Engie lol. think it’s funny#also just….toxic yaoi? AM I DOING THIS RIGHT? TOXIC YAOI?#Toxic Yaoi#…I think#Anyways um. there will be a bonus to this 👍#Spy kissing Engie sloppy style after this#Spy#Engineer#BLU Spy#RED Engineer#Spy X Engineer#(?)#Napoleon Complex#Cartoons#Doodles#Sketches
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hate it when there’s already enough characters & they bring in a new one to take up all the attention from the already interesting characters. like ok. no one asked
#I usually end up warming up but I do seem to often hafe new characters#I hate Harry’s ex wife fr she’s so annoying like omg who caress#how many love interests does Harry need#like he has enough. this is too many. what was the point of her showing up. go away & stop causing drama there’s enough going on#with the alien plot & all the other love & family drama among the characters#this just feels so pointless. what’s the point of her#I’m watching resident alien btw#sorry I’ve been silent so far I’ve just been casually liking it#my toxic trait is I only comment on stuff I don’t like lol#tv tag#resident alien
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hii!!
i just saw that your requests are open. 🥹
i was wondering if you'd be okay with a request for a Soul Mate fic with a short!reader (5ft - 5ft2) who wears glasses x Yandere!Bakugo?
would it also be okay if the reader was written to be very sweet and caring to other people?
if you're not okay with the request for the reader's height/ glasses/ personality being too specific, then please, please ignore me.
thank you so, so much either way. 🥹
didn't specify which bakugou:))))
Yandere!Bakugou Mitsuki x reader
Doormat
(Warnings: toxic relationship, yandere, possessiveness, manipulation)
You tried to be a kind person.
You looked out for others, you cared deeply for your friends, you tried to make your parents proud of you. Eventually, your reputation became what you wanted it to be: dependable, responsible, kind.
Mitsuki had a habit of taking advantage of that.
"Again?" Suda scoffed.
You give a timid smile. "Sorry, but Mitsuki had a bad day today, so we're just gonna stay over at her place."
"Right." She rolls her eyes. "A bad day. Let her throw her trantrum alone. C'mon, we've been looking forward to this for a month! And suddenly you're just gonna ditch me like this? Those tickets were expensive!"
"I'm sorry," you repeat, truly apologetic, "Is there a way you could get a refund-"
"It's not about the tickets." Suda cuts you off. "It's about her. Seriously, when's the last time we've ever hung out with each other? I know you're in love, but can you really not see the way she's hoarding all your attention?"
Your mouth opens and closes. You don't know what to say to that.
Thankfully, you don't have to say anything.
Hands wrap around your shoulders, and a face nestles into your shoulder. The faint smell of something sweet floats in the air.
"Who's hoarding all your attention?" Your soulmate asks. She kisses your cheek.
Suda rolls her eyes at the blatant affection.
"Hey, Bakugou." She states. Mitsuki ignores her.
"What're you doing, here?" She asks you instead. "I asked you to wait for me after class, right?"
There's an edge in her voice that makes you shift around nervously.
"I needed to talk to Suda about the concert," you reply, "and also I was thinking I could-"
"Great! Since you're done with that, let's go home then." She interrupts, swinging an arm around your shoulder.
When you look behind you, Suda is shaking her head. Your stomach flips.
"A new cafe opened. Let's go there," Mitsuki says.
"Oh?" You give her a glance. "I thought you just wanted to go home. Didn't you say your professor really pissed you off-"
"C'mon." She bumped your shoulder with her own. "That was hours ago. Don't worry 'bout it."
You frown. If Mitsuki had gotten over her gripe so quickly, you wished she would have at least told you. Then, you wouldn't had to have that awkward conversation with Suda.
"Besides, I need to treat my soulmate out now and then, right?" She traces her name on your wrist.
Ah, there it was.
How the universe decided you two were the perfect match, you wouldn't know. Bakugou Mitsuki was top of her class, head of the cheerleading squad, an extremely useful quirk, came from a rich family, made people's heads turn. You were a quirkless nobody. You always feared that your soulmate would reject you because of how useless you were.
Mitsuki just calls you hers.
Maybe that's why you were so lenient on her demanding nature.
She pulls you through the cafe doors. You let her order for the two of you because 'its your first time here, obviously you're not gonna know what's good' even though it's her first time here too. A part of you wants to look at the menu, but she's already telling the waiter something and he's whisking off. It's fine. Besides, she's paying.
He comes back later with something too sweet and way too much whipped cream to ever be considered coffee. You don't complain. It's good. Mitsuki always has good tastes.
"Good right?" She reaches over, flicking away some whipped cream on the side of your cheek before popping her thumb in her mouth. You flush at her brash behavior.
"It's amazing." You honestly say. "Thanks for bringing me here."
She gives an affectionate smile.
"I just love spoiling you, sometimes."
You look away bashfully. She laughs.
It's a nice date. Mitsuki tells you about her project, how annoying everyone in her group is. If you could, you'd listen to her talk for hours.
But someone always tries to ruin it.
You don't know him, but he doesn't cast you a glance. Clearly, he's only interested in one person. He sits next to her with an easy-going smile. Flirtatious. You frown, sucking on your straw.
"Hey-"
"No." She instantly cuts him off. Just like that. No fake coddling, no polite smiles. She doesn't even glance at him. You hide your smile behind your drink. Your girlfriend's funny sometimes.
He puts his hands up immediately, scoffing with an amused smile. Then, he looks at you. Barely a glance. You don't even notice.
Mitsuki does.
The tone instantly shifts. She hisses, red eyes narrow to slits.
"Fuck off." She says, a sharp bite in her tone. You're grateful it isn't directed at you.
It surprises him. He doesn't expect it, clearly. Her voice is enough to jolt him up as he stammers through his words. When he's out of her sight, her lip curls into disgust.
"C'mon." She tells you. "Sick of this place. We're leaving."
You frown, looking down at your drink. She's already done with hers. You're only halfway through yours.
You stand up anyway, obediently following behind her.
She's still seething. You know she doesn't like it when people look at things that are hers. You know that well. When your fingers slip through her own, she relaxes, just the tiniest bit. You give her a shy smile.
Her grip tightens around yours.
You tried to be a kind person.
You looked out for others, you cared deeply for your friends, you tried to make your parents proud of you-
What a fucking lie.
You were just a doormat. You weren't kind, you weren't caring, you just bent over backwards for people. You needed to please others around you like a dog. You needed others to love you so you could love yourself.
It's why you were perfect for Mitsuki. You were too scared to ever say no to her. Hers to mold into her own image, a perfected being.
You were made for her. Of course you were.
You two were soulmates after all. Together forever.
#Mitsuki 'only i can bully you' Bakugou#ngl i rlly hate 'kind/caring' mcs cuz i find them rlly annoying#flawed/cowardly mcs are just better imo#toxic relationship#yandere bakugou mitsuki#yandere bakugou mitsuki x reader#bakugou mitsuki x reader#soulmate au#possessiveness#unhealthy relationships#Yandere#yandere mha#yandere mha x reader
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alice dyer is late to work so often purely because she gets there to see what color blazer gwen is wearing so she can chanhe to match and pretend it's a crazy coincidence
#tmagp#the magnus protocol#alice dyer#gwen bouchard#i just know she keeps every color blazer in her car just so she can annoy gwen#they are so office romcom toxic yuri enemies to lovers
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chengxian getting back together au where yanli makes them attend the incredibly specific event that im at rn bc the tickets were expensive and they bought them pre-breakup and one of them (probs wei wuxian) goes up onstage and gives this whole speech and asks jiang cheng to take him back and its cutesy & fun & sillay
#i just think in a modern au chengxian would be the type of#people to be sooo on-again-off-again not even because theyd be like toxic but because every time they have any kind kf argument jiang cheng#yells THATS IT IM DUMPING YOU and wei wuxian knows he doesnt mean it bc he knows jc so hes just like FINE IM GOING amd spends the night at#yanlis to give jc soace#space*#and then comes back the next day and week later theyre back together#sorry * by the end of the week theyre back together#and like granted this is also maybe not ideal but it works for them!#and they only have fights like that like every couple months so its not tooooo terribly annoying to yanli. espshe will take the babysitter#*esp once jl is born she will take the babysitter! she and zixuan plan their date nights around this#my thots#chengxian#ficposting
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Controversial opinion but people on Twitter/TikTok wouldn’t be capable of surviving true toxic yaoi/yuri. What they really want is a tsundere character being mean once and then immediately apologizing for it…try giving them something truly toxic like manipulation, controlling behavior, passive aggressiveness and such and they will complain about how the writer is homophobic or is portraying the relationship wrong and is ruining the gays
#media#toxic yaoi#toxic yuri#people couldn’t handle shuake back in the day and they aren’t even that bad#killing stalking is actually a good example of toxic yaoi but no one is ready for that combo#they want to romanticize toxic yaoi but they can’t bc it’s toxic and bad actually so they just turn it into annoying tsundere stuff#don’t be cowards
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Quackity: Oh, it's gonna be so cool to see how this develops. I'm excited, I'm gonna try my best. I'm not the greatest at Minecraft whatsoever, I did nerf Green Team a little bit by accident on the second day. My bad! But, you know, I'm so ready to just grind out and see what we can do, and I just–
I wish everyone saw it with the same amount of, like, kind of enthusiasm. I think all of this and all the development and all the potential arcs, that's going to fcking allow for something absolutely incredible.
And if anyone ends up clipping any of this, something I do want to say is I implore people to view everything with a lot of enthusiasm. No stress, no anxiety, just a lot of enthusiasm. Because, again, this is going to allow for a lot of cool things in the server. Not just now, but in the future, too.
#Quackity#OiBagi#QSMP#QSMP Purgatory#Purgatory#Green Team#Bagi#Alright last one for tonight I got things to do#But Quackity did say ''if anyone clips any of this'' so I wanted to make sure I shared that final message he gave everyone#Because I agree!#I know fandoms can be toxic and people can have POV brainrot#But I hope everyone is still able to remember the reasons why they love QSMP so much#and I hope they're still able to find enjoyment -- if not with the event itself then with your streamers#I personally wasn't a fan of the Debate part of the Election Arc#But I still enjoyed myself because the people I watched made it funny or they poked fun at it or they avoided it completely#Don't be afraid to block people or mute / block tags or anything#And for the love of god stop using Twitter if you can#I've significantly reduced my usage (even though I love seeing fanart -- though many fanartists are moving to Tumblr; which is nice)#I primarily use it to keep up with the update accounts and see what the CCs are up to#But anyways. Take care of yourselves guys. The toxic people can be loud but they are just a very vocal (very annoying) minority#Love and enthusiasm is always the majority. After all; that's why we're here in the first place!
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I've been moving and navigating further departmental nonsense etc (my pseudo-dissertation got approved for defending, though! l o l). But it was interesting to see the Worst P&P Takes poll I reblogged accumulating more results and the general tenor of responses in the notes.
I mean, the results are definitely to be expected if you're familiar with the side of Austen fandom doing a lot of the reblogging etc. But still, interesting!
Many Tumblr polls specify that they're asking about personal preferences that may be irrational—favorite/least favorite, coolest/most annoying, or something like that. This one, though, asked for the worst interpretation of P&P, not the most annoying one—and the current leader is "Darcy is never really proud, he's just shy and probably has anxiety" against some very steep competition on the Bad Takes front.
I was thinking about why that seemed a kind of tediously predictable choice even though I agree that the take is wrong, and realized that while I do disagree with the shy Darcy interpretation and I particularly disagree with the specific formulation where he is never proud at all, it ultimately feels to me like a failure of nuance rather than just completely wrongheaded like some of the others. And this is probably my fundamental difference with a lot of Darcy takes I see!
In my opinion, a character who is introverted and who feels awkward in various social situations and who doesn't like common social activities and who has to work himself up to talking to his crush and who is repeatedly suggested to behave very differently in contexts where he's more comfortable being interpreted as shy and anxious is not that big of a leap.
Yes, it's important that he is actually fundamentally confident and haughty, that he makes his personal feelings of discomfort other people's problem, and that he thinks he's such a unique and special butterfly that he doesn't need to even put in an effort outside his personal social circle. But it's a misreading that is easy to follow (and long predates the 2005 P&P, as I've mentioned before!).
The additional misreading that a shy and anxious Darcy is also never proud at all is a much more drastic leap, and in my experience, condemnations of shy Darcy interpretations rarely differentiate between "Darcy is shy as well as arrogant" and "Darcy is shy rather than arrogant" as interpretations (although their basic arguments are quite different). But even that as the worst possible misreading of P&P when Darcy is not even the main character is ?????????
I mean, for one alternative (not even the one I voted for!), the idea that Elizabeth is an author avatar Mary Sue seems a far worse misreading of P&P than basically anything to do with Darcy at all. The center piece of the entire novel is Elizabeth's epiphany of self-knowledge about her own shortcomings that do not particularly resemble Austen's at all, but were ethically a concern for her, and she's a complex, interesting character in general whom Austen correctly regarded as a major achievement. Inverting that into Elizabeth as an improbably perfect, reality-warping self-insert is deeply wrong and frankly pretty misogynistic as well.
(ngl though, it's a little funny to see such a blatantly terrible reading of Elizabeth rank so far behind the shy Darcy votes. I've gotten "does anyone actually think/say that?" so many times on my posts about Austen fandom's prioritization of Darcy's character development over Elizabeth's and yet...)
And even just going with the Darcy-centric misreadings, the idea of Darcy as a "bad boy" seems easily the most absolutely wrong take on him. His pride is at least complicated and the finer points can be fairly debated and it's a quality that actually changes somewhat throughout the novel, and you can have discussion over what happened when, whose testimonies should be weighted more, etc. But there is no point at which "bad boy" isn't utterly wrong for him. However, there's definitely a tendency in some wings of the fandom to find the idea of Darcy being misread too favorably more objectionable than him being read too unfavorably, regardless of the particulars, so it's not a surprise.
I suppose you could argue about what "worst" means in the context of variously bad interpretations. Like, is an interpretation that is about a fairly trivial aspect of the book but extremely wrong about it "worse" than an interpretation that is pretty bad but at least comprehensibly so about something very important?
#i remember years ago mentioning that i disagree with the darcy 'shy-ites' but am more opposed to the 'anti-shy-ites'#but was not exactly clear on why apart from their tendency to frame the anti-darcy position as more rigorous and less informed by adaptatio#(this was the case even before the 2005 came out but vastly more so afterwards and deeply annoying as a lesbian fan of the book)#(lesbian is pertinent because many dismissive anti-shy-ite takes assume that more positive interpretations of him#are based on attraction to a particular actor playing on him rather than the text. also it's more acceptable when it's colin firth somehow)#in any case for me it's like ... yeah i think the shy!darcy crowd is wrong but only because it's more complicated than that#not because it's completely baseless#and 'shy rather than proud' is truly wrong but there's enough emphasis on him being different than elizabeth thought all along that i get i#elizabeth as a mary sue or bad boy darcy or actually it's about toxic masculinity etc are just fundamentally wrong in a very basic way#that no amount of nuance or discussion of vocabulary can really address#anghraine babbles#austen blogging#austen fanwank#lady anne blogging#long post#poll nonsense#anghraine rants
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why are Aerith, Tifa and Zack ALWAYS the target in this freaking fandom
#leave them aloneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee touch some grass!#the imbalance is crazy i never see hate about ANY character but those three#like don't get me wrong i *don't* want to see people hating on any character at all#but why is it always them... they are so lovely and so well-written i just can't believe they get so much hate??#i mean i know. it's because of the stupid ship wars#but goddammit it's getting more and more annoying 💀#that's the downside to being in a huge fandom you can't escape the toxic bitches who never even played the games#i'm glad tumblr is more chill. kisses you all#in this house we love aerti and zack 💖#my post
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I LOVED To Be a Creature, and it genuinely creeped me out to see the things Edelgard and Hubert said to Byleth (though it's the same as the game, stripped out of its voice acting and background music, the dialogue is so much more horrifying). Really makes me wonder if Edelgard's love for Byleth is genuine in any way. Do you think there's any real love there or is it just obsession?
Thank you!!! I had a feeling that placing Edelgard and Hubert's words in a context that isn't meant to make them look flattering would really let their casual racism shine, and I'm glad it's seeming like that is in fact the impression people are getting lol. SO sorry for the late answer btw 😭😭😭
As for whether Edelgard's love is genuine... I got opinions lmao.
got a bit long lmao under the cut it goes
If Edelgard felt the way she does for Byleth on exclusively SS and CF, I could maybe see how this is a "genuine" love (insofar as a love steeped in "I may hate your race but you're special and Not Like The Other Ones because I think you're special to me" can, uh, ever be genuine, in any case). But because Edelgard still feels as strongly towards Byleth on AM and VW where she quite literally never talks to them directly in any meaningful way, it becomes waaaaay more like she's just weirdly obsessed with this person who saved her one singular time ever five years ago from an attack Edelgard set up. It makes the "love" way more forced and contrived and obviously trying to squeeze tears out of the player for standing up against the cute girly trying to murder them. Or, alternatively, it makes Edelgard come off as manipulative, saying that she just wanted to walk with Byleth and it makes her so sad to HAVE to fight Byleth because BYLETH wouldn't stand by HER - and she's saying this on AM/VW to a person she's talked to in conversation a cumulative, what? Hour? Two? Maybe a few days, being nice? Over the course of, being as absolutely generous as physically possible and not counting the five years Byleth was missing... two fucking years? She's shitting herself over fighting this stranger she doesn't fucking know? Yeah, sure buddy, whatever you say - you see what I mean?
And honestly even outside of those two routes, I think it's more that she sees Byleth as being hers rather than actually liking them for who they are. A body to stand next to her and tell her how right she is and comfort her - who doesn't have the background of "I was literally raised to think this is my only purpose in life" muddying the sincerity of the brown-nosing - who also happens to also act as The Perfect Fighter and The Perfect Strategist to actively help her get what she wants. That view of Byleth being a tool doesn't really go away unless they marry her, seen by how they quite literally get nothing for all they've done for Edelgard should they go unmarried to a noble (guess they just weren't meritable enough once their use to her was done).
As well as how much more Edelgard doesn't like Byleth disagreeing with her or otherwise going against her flow than pretty much anyone else in the game - you lose supports points if you don't think the Black Eagle Strike Force name she made is good, she quickly denies the notion that Byleth is detached from others/emotions and insists they are just like she is, she gives them the same callous and thoughtless words she was apparently given once in her life while they are in the midst of mourning their recently murdered father so that they get over it already and get back to being useful to her (directly saying she will only reach out her hand when it's time for HER to move forward, not when BYLETH heals from WATCHING THEIR DAD DIE IN THEIR FUCKING ARMS MAYBE A WEEK AGO). She never treats Byleth kindly unless they do everything she wants, which like. Isn't love???? At all????
There's just this... weirdly possessive air Edelgard has around Byleth that always threw me off, especially with how easily she admits to have been willing to kill them so far into CF and how readily she cuts ties with them the second the fighting's done (which is particular because how just how clingy she was to Byleth everywhere else - you know during all that time Byleth had a use to her). Incorporating that into being an intentional part of her character is certainly interesting, but not in a way that's flattering to the idea of Edelgard genuinely being in love with Byleth lmao.
Personally tho, even disregarding almost everything else, the simple explanation is that I don't think you can really sit there and say you love someone while openly hating part of their racial heritage. Wild thought, I know lmao
#ask#anon#anti edelgard#just to be safe#like. maybe if this ship was allowed to be seen as the clearly toxic ship it is i MIGHT could see it as a sort of twisted#''you're only good because *I* like you'' fucked up kinda deal#where the possessive and controlling shit baked into the relationship was embraced or even just like. acknowledged?? at all??#and where Edelgard ''doesn't care'' for Byleth's mixed-race status in her love for her...#...because she *already* dehumanized them as *being* hers regardless of Byleth's race. like they ALREADY aren't really a person to her#which is why their mixed-race status is just an annoying bug to her and not a deal-breaker (to downplay it SEVERELY but you get the idea)#but uh like it's not like at all lmao#there's no way in hell my ass is gonna be convinced Edelgard ''I hate Nabateans and want to obliterate all of them'' von Hresvelg#would ever actually genuinely love Byleth ''is literally part Nabatean'' Eisner WITHOUT getting over her hatred of Nabateans#and oops guess what she never does 🤷♀️#and yeah her ''facing you i grow weak'' and ''i just wanted to walk with you'' schtick on AM and VW looks shallow as helllllll dude#like bitch do NOT play with me you do not and frankly CAN not give a shit about this person sincerely#LITERALLY they have almost never spoken to each other. she could've just as well said this to fucking Raphael and have it mean just as much
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The respect I have for people who have actually been able to read The Odyssey and The Iliad is insane.
I was at the bookstore today buying the newest pjo book and I went to the classics section like “hm maybe I can buy The Iliad and The Odyssey so I can finally read them instead of getting all my information on the plot from video summaries, spark notes, and tumblr” then I grabbed both of them and decided to yk sift through to see if I could actually even read it. I in fact, could NOT read those things. Like the style of English and speaking hurt my brain, I thought the spark notes summaries were brain melting but oh lord the book itself hurt more.
So yeah I did not buy either one and only both wrath of the triple goddess lmao, but I did leave with a lot of respect for the people who have been able to actually read the book because I just can’t
But also if anyone has like a translation of either one that’s easier to read please do recommend and I’ll see if I can get it because I would really like to actually have a copy I can refer to when I need it (a copy I can actually understand that is)
#the odyssey#the illiad#classics#greek mythology#homeric epics#homer#homer buddy i can’t read the translations of your monstrosities#which really sucks because of my current hyperfixation being greek mythology#curse you epic for doing this to me btw#also do not get this post twisted as me not knowing the stories because i do know them#via video summaries and spark notes#and tumblr#which is less reliable at times#so it’s mostly video summaries and spark notes#but i do know the stories#and a lot of other greek myths#fun fact just because i like epic and pjo doesn’t mean i think they’re accurate#weird that some people automatically assume epic and/or pjo fans don’t know actual greek mythology#yeah some don’t#but there are a lot of us that do#we just like the books and the musical because they’re fun#like the pjo books are a really fun read and it’s a fun universe to think abt#and epic is just a really fun retelling of the odyssey#i see so many toxic classics fans get genuinely pissed at the mere mention of any kind of modern take in greek myths/retellings#like i get it being annoying if ppl who actually don’t know the myths/stories try and argue that they’re right#but don’t judge everyone just because of a few people#it makes it harder than it should be to be a fan of both the original stories and modern takes on them#epic the musical#percy jackson and the olympians#wrath of the triple goddess
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Playing splatoon one again and WOW seeker is busted...
Fucking love it bring it back
#toxic mist also stays with you ohhhhhhh man its annoying#also bring back lose animations theyre funny#btw attack and defense up are crazy to see now#bc. that fucks the whole weapon balance!!!#its so awesome tho i love you splatoon one#splatoon#also bring bafk inkstrike theres nothing more awesome than just. launching a nuclear missle directly at your enemies
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yeah you say “cringe is dead” but do you still apologize about reblogging stuff related to your “cringy” interests? kill the mindset that you are somehow not included in that statement or we’re never actually going to change anything
#i have never been in a fandom that apologizes for liking the source media as much as the homestuck fandom does#like jesus christ STOP it’s not cute actually#we’re on tumblr. we’re literally on tumblr and you still feel the need to be like ‘omg so so sorry for reblogging this hs post teehee’#if people unfollow you for it who cares. who. cares.#also not only is it 1) perpetuating a toxic culture of shame and 2) annoying#it’s highly disrespectful to the creator of the media#someone poured their heart and soul into the anime or book or album that you’re so ashamed of liking#by APOLOGIZING for liking something just because other people like to mock it you’re agreeing that this thing that you supposedly love#is defective. less than. worthy of mockery#i mean not only is that spineless as hell it’s like. imagine being a creator and knowing that not even your fans respect your work#so yeah. stop apologizing for liking the things you like. either express that affinity freely or shut the fuck up entirely#hm. im madder about this than i thought i was. lol.#op
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