#is bc he's so used to abuse at the hands of people he cares abt :/

[dukeofthomas]

"Angry robin" "violent robin" "misbehaving robin" shut up and accept my alternative; spunky Robin. Determined and head strong, can out-stubborn the Batman, has a strong moral-backbone and does what he thinks is right regardless of what anybody else says, Robin. Jason who was sassy and quippy and made crude jokes with a smile on his face. Jason who hid in Bruce's cape and whispered gossip to him. Jason who, if Bruce refused him something, could keep bothering endlessly until Bruce caved. And also dramatic Jason. If Bruce tells him no, it becomes a whole theatrical show; a monologue, a narration, embellishments, and falling onto the floor in his grief upon the fact his cruel father has denied him once again.

(Jason who has suffered through abuse and homelessness and poverty and starvation, who is the Fight out of Fight or Flight, who's built up defenses and walls and when pushed and triggered responds with the thing that's always protected him; anger. He's sweet and kind and funny, and when he sees a pimp hitting a prostitute he gets furious and responds with violence.)

[gl1tchr]

Dano Riddler Is Actually A Very Standard Riddler He's Just Wearing A Freaky Mask

I'm gonna ramble here bc I bug the people of twitter way too much with my rants abt Dano Riddler. He is SUCH a good Riddler, he's just Handled very differently to others and I think to the average Riddler fan it's so alien to other interpretations, but he's actually. a VERY STANDARD RIDDLER in terms of his behavior. He's extremely self-centered, arrogant, and petulant. Yes he's suffered genuine trauma, but this absolutely doesn't excuse the fact that he's extremely uncharitable to others, does think himself Above everyone else, and doesn't care who he hurts. Other Riddlers have been abused by their own parents, bullied relentlessly in their youth, etc. and we obviously don't excuse their behavior for that, Dano Riddler is actually VERY CLEVER in painting his crusade as a populist revolution. He's a VERY dangerous Riddler because he recognizes that if he can silently concede some power/spotlight to others, he can gain even more attention and acclaim.

Edward is SO self-centered. He hides behind populist language to rally others to support him BECAUSE LIKE EVERY RIDDLER HE CRAVES ATTENTION AND OUTSIDE VALIDATION. He'll just never admit that. He'll paint this as rallying his troops, speaking for the people, but it's not. It's the exact same reason Riddler does the things he does in every other version - he wants people to SEE him. "Now they'll remember ME - they'll remember BOTH OF US". Your homework is rewatching the "Hey Guys" video but replacing all of his populist verbiage with I, Me, My, etc. instead of We, Us, etc.

"Oh but he puts himself down so often, how can he be arrogant" have you EVER met one of those really obnoxious guys who clearly thinks of himself as some amazing, wonderful dude and he's constantly like "ah I'm just lame, I'm a loser". It's that. His Actual perception of himself is someone who sees past all the "bullshit", and just because he genuinely did uncover corruption of Gotham, this doesn't make him some paragon of truth. He just happened to be in the right field of work to catch the funneling of funds through Renewal.

He also reminds me a LOT of Arkham Riddler the way he blows up on people. When he fusses at Colson for speaking over him, I was getting major Arkham Ed vibes. He stamps his feet and demands the game be played HIS way. Yes most of his breakdowns in the movie and comic are due to his trauma, but I also think a handful of them stem from him just being kind of immature. Specifically the Colson one, and the interrogation scene. I think those two specifically were not breakdowns, they were tantrums because things weren't going his way.

Dano Riddler gets a lot of guff for being a "sympathetically written" Riddler. He really isn't, people just find Paul Dano's performance very fun and he is - as we can all admit bc we are big boys and girls - very cute. But if he were maybe more off-putting, I think it would be clearer that he's actually a VERY standard Riddler, just in very unfamiliar packaging. And I think his evolution over the series is going to reveal more of his mean, bad natured behavior.

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[doodlegirl1998]

hori constantly acts as if he isn’t the writer and has full control of the story and it pisses me off to no end. gonna drop some examples below. these are from the street wear profiles from the manga.

sen kaibara - “I love his Quirk, so I can’t wait to portray it more.” he’s acting like something/someone is actively holding him back from doing so.

tetsutetsu tetsutetsu - “I hope I get to show him in action more.” once again, acting like something is stopping him. side note, why tf did he give him that name. it’s just so lazy. and it’s not even funny. just annoying to say and annoying to write.

hanta sero - “He’s mostly just for one liners in the background, but he’s a good guy, and I’d like to feature him more. At some point. For sure.” and then proceeds to never do that.

this might just be me being bitter abt all the amazing characters he’s completely disregarded and disrespected. this might just be me not understanding what it’s like being a mangaka. but it still bothers me.

i just hate how he’s created this insanely interesting world and amazing characters and never expands on anything bc he’s too busy sucking bakugos dick.

speaking of bakugo, as someone who has narcissistic tendencies, he’s a textbook case.

he obviously has some sort of inferiority/superiority complex and a mild to severe case of a god complex. at best he’s dismissive of people who he sees as inferior to him, at worst he’s downright cruel.

his “nicknames” are all just fucking insults aimed at peoples insecurities.

raccoon eyes/horns: mina was probably bullied for her appearance and then her so called “friend” exclusively calls her names that poke fun at her appearance.

bird brain/bird face/other bird names: tokoyami has probably heard it all at this point but once again bakugo making fun of heteromorphs.

dunce face: denki has shown to be insecure about his intelligence and once again his so called “friend” mocks him for it.

tentacles/arms/octopus: again, mocking heteromorphs.

tail: i’m beginning to see a pattern here.

ears: ok how has no one pointed out how most of his nicknames are him basically just calling them slurs.

i don’t think bakugo has ever called someone their actual name. maybe a handful of times? but it’s like a massive event when he calls someone by their actual name.

exclusive calling people insults isn’t exactly heroic.

anyway rant over i just needed to get all this shit off my chest.

Hi @the-jello-bowl 👋,

There could be something to be said here about how the editors may have had a hand in Hori not exploring all the characters he may have wanted to.

But, even if that is the case, not all of the blame would rest on them.

Hori clearly did not plan ahead for a lot of MHA. He is very good at coming up with good character designs and concepts as well as bringing life to them but seems to be at a loss after that is done. The cast bloating is key evidence of this.

It is sad to see all these interesting characters be swept to the wayside in favour of Bakugou, who by contrast brings nothing of interest to the table.

Bakugou is a narcissistic abuser in my opinion. He uses cruel nicknames, not as lighthearted jibes, but to bring others down - especially his friends.

Other than the instances you mentioned, I want to bring attention to one that belongs to Bakugou's supposed best friend, Kirishima, who he calls only "shitty hair." We learn in his backstory that Kirishima changed his hair to be like his idols as a symbol of his growth prior to U.A. Therefore, being continually called "shitty hair" would hurt Kirishima deeply. He also tells Bakugou to stop, and yet Bakugou does not care.

The time I can think of when Bakugou called someone their actual name is that time he used "Izuku" instead of the usual "Deku" slur. And even that is bad because instead of asking for the right to call Izuku by his first name, usually reserved for close family, Bakugou just does it.

Typical narcissistic, entitled and stagnant Bakugou. We hate to see it.

I wish Hori didn't waste so many manga panels on this idiot.

[mystiika]

❝ oh, i'd expect nothing less. besides, its not like whoever i have to fight in the future is going to go easy on me so it's probably a good thing anyway. ❞ a little macabre even for his pessimistic self, but the fact of the matter remains that they seem to run up on beacon hill's monster of the month that inevitably results in at LEAST one life or death situation. isaac didn't want to feel so dependent on others — whether its scott or derek, or allison & chris. he was tired of being so... ill-equipped. he wasn't the strategist in their group, nor the detective. sure, he could help brainstorm but his suggestions were generally reliant on some kind of violence, but he can only assume he has less qualms about the idea of murder than the others ( though it certainly would have made things a little easier ). what he could offer was his strength but it was still rather new to him. it's like he was handed a weapon with no training on how to aim it. there were some things derek could teach him but it doesn't seem to come naturally to the man & poor isaac was suffering the consequences. ❝ just.. maybe we start without the weapons & work our way up. ❞ there's no way he leaves unscathed either way but just because he heals doesn't mean he's necessarily looking to live through his personal version of death by a thousand cuts. ❝ you already have the advantage with your training so i feel like knives are a little unfair. ❞ a pause & another wide grin, tone as teasing as ever. ❝ unless you don't think you can take me without them. i mean, i wouldn't blame you if you were scared. ❞ ( as if she'd ever be scared of him, truthfully its really the other way around ).

His joking is a relief to her, especially when she had felt so bad about stabbing him. Clearly, she hadn't meant to, but instincts kick in along with paranoia when you've been through as much as the both of them have, Allison is sure that Isaac understands that, at the very least, considering his own traumatic past.

For a moment, surprise crosses her features when he asks her for help to train. Though, it makes sense given his explanation about Derek. There's a scowl at the thought of Derek breaking bones of wolves he's supposed to protect but she shoves that thought aside and focuses on his question.

"Yeah, I'll help. But I'm not going to go easy on you."

[freedjustinemywife]

Thunder legion hcs but some of them get weirdly specific bc i think abt them too much

(Part 1??)

- Originally Bickslow and Freed lived together as roommates, Evergreen lived in fairy hills and Laxus had his own penthouse. When Fairy Tail disbanded they began living together while they were in Blue Pegasus as it was just easier, and they never stopped (im running off the hc that theyre all living together for most of these)

- Freed is the cook of the raijin tribe, they used to have a cooking rotor but it slowly became just Freed cooking every night

- Evergreen CAN cook basic meals but hates doing it so just, wont. Back when there was a schedule she asked Freed to do it instead and he usually agreed because he enjoys cooking

- Bickslow also can cook, but likes to experiment quite heavily and will not be convinced to make a normal meal. Got banned from cooking after he served shrimp pasta with ice cream

- Laxus can cook you a damn good grilled cheese, but thats it. Only cooks when people are feeling like grilled cheese

- Bickslow is a painter, not-quite Reedus level but still good, they like to paint from the imagination more than from reference which ends in very interesting (and only mildly disturbing) pieces

- Evergreen likes to garden, its something she started when she was young because her mother told her fairies like to care for nature. Their apartment is filled with various plants that she keeps and cares for, and while she could use magic to help them grow she prefers doing it by hand

- Freed enjoys playing a lot of musical instruments, hes best at violin and has been playing since quite young along with piano, but can also play gutair and bass as of more recently. Also has a collection of books in the apartment, originally all stored in his room before he ran out of space

- They have a schedule of getting up at about 7am at the latest most days, its not heavily enforced day to day but they stick to it on missions, if not getting up even earlier depending on the job

- Off-mission though? Nobody is actually getting up at 7am. Bickslow doesnt have a set time to wake but tends to actually be an early riser, he enjoys the mornings so he usually gets up a bit before 7, occasionally to do some painting or stretch ect

- Freed wakes up at 6am sharp and gets straight out of bed, no yawning or stretching or anything just stands up and walks away

- he is also the one attempting to enforce the 7am rule (sorry king) but bickslow usually joins in if only to annoy people

- Evergreen prefers to sleep in a bit more where possible, usually till half 8 or 9 if she can get away with it, then spends way to long in the bathroom doing her hair, makeup, and picking an outfit

- Laxus normally gets up at 10 and is impossible to wake before that, youd have to kick him awake and hes still grumpy afterwards

- Freed is French (I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL) and comes from a military background, specifically a noble house that specialised in military trading and training in France (i have an entire backstory mapped out for this freak if anyones interested drop me an ask)

- Bickslow grew up in the circus, hes always been naturally flexible but its where he honed that ability as well as learning some acrobatics, however it burned down when he was a teenager and the puppets (“babies”) he keeps around are the result of friends who died in that fire

- Evergreen is Scottish and grew up mostly raised by a single mother, her father was around for a few years but was generally a horrible man, a drinker and abuser who eventually left her mother alone. She also has a brother a few years younger than her who she helped to raise and is still close to

- Freed is the tactician of the thunder legion, comes along with being a leader but hes usually the one coming up with the plans

- Speaking of, hes someone who prefers to have a plan before a fight where possible, particularly as his magic is one where its difficult to construct quickly, especially if he wants a high powered jutsu shiki. So while he can think quickly on his feet hed rather have a plan mapped out

- Evergreen is the one who’s best at thinking quickly, if they end up in a situation where a snap decision needs to be made shes confident enough to make it and order her teammates around without second guessing herself

- They also all understand the importance of teamwork and its the main reason they’re so effective (as seen in the battle of fairy tail) their close bond allows them to work extremely well together, even if they tend to argue sometimes

- When Bickslow dislikes someone they have a habit of showing it on his face, usually by pulling a disgusted expression

- Ever does this too in a more subtle way, usually exchanging a glance with one of the thunder legion if shes not liking what somebodies saying. She WILL be gossiping about it later

- If Freeds not interested in a conversation he just silently walks away when youre not looking, people have gone 10 minutes before noticing hes left before

- Laxus just leaves mid-sentence though, doesn’t even think about it just walks away

- None of them can drive anywhere for various reasons, Laxus obviously gets extremely motion sick so is out for the count right off the bat

- Bickslow was banned due to being deemed “a danger to himself and others” after he got too many speeding tickets and crashed the car into a postbox

- Evergreen literally applies makeup while driving, shes blasting the radio while doing lipstick without looking at the road and its terrifying

- Freed is who people THINK would be the most responsible driver, and while he’ll get you to your destination safely, he also has a bad habit of ignoring the speed limit and accidentally running red lights. Unlike Bickslow however hes somehow managed to avoid getting any tickets

[pop-punklouis]

I'm just very mad bc I made the mistake of logging on twitter and just,, everyone pretending that they harassed liam bc they cared abt maya or that they can talk shit now bc they don't care abt the death of an abuser... and lke i'm not gonna defend his actions but also people love to be pretending to be bullies with a cause on the internet but always attack people that we know are mentally 'unwell' and like,, we don't you guys redirect this vitriol towards someone like idk brad pitt? or is he too good looking for yall to care?

in my opinion, anyone trying to say this was a case of bullying just aren’t correct. he was being called out for very valid reasons, and his actions were worth being spoken about.

but, on the other hand, wishing death upon anyone especially someone that has very obviously dealt with mental health woes and addiction since being in an environment that helped create this version of him for years, is very disturbing to me. we can talk about the cruelty of his actions and behaviors while being a man while still mourning the boy he was to so many of us and the heart he had under a lot of the gross things he indulged in. anyone judging how others are grieving his death are ridiculous. it’s not a linear thing. this isn’t black and white.

he needed help. i’m just very sad he was never able to recover and hold himself accountable for his actions and grow. i’m very sad he left this world in the state he was. and anyone pointing fingers or ridiculing or wanting to start drama over it are missing the point that a human being died. someone that was an integral part of many people’s formable years died. someone who was the youngest son died. someone who had a son died. someone who had friends who cared deeply about him died. show at least some respect for those mourning that.

[horizon-verizon]

https://www.tumblr.com/very-straight-blog/750648583572881408/it-really-tires-me-how-some-fans-try-to-make-aegon?source=share

What is your opinion about this? Personally, I don't understand why people are so diligently looking for something in Aegon that isn't there.

I wrote about Aegon HERE.

Of course he cares, that's literally the essence of his personality. He cares. He and Aemond both feel too much emotion, but if Aemond sublimates into self–improvement, trying to be strong, cold and detached, then Aegon is literally an open wound. I want to talk about this, also using Tom's interviews (yes, I think the actor's opinion is valid in this matter) and the few scenes that we have in the first season

Having emotion/passion =/= sympathy, caring about others, or altruism. sympathy, altruism, etc. can cause or fuel passion, passion can be the motivation to maintain sympathy/compassion/altruism. Dany is a perfect example caring in hand with passion. But this person conflated "caring" with "being emotional and insecure".

Aegon, bk or show, is emotional bc he doesn't want to expend much energy into doing the ambitious things his family wants him to do, except if it is him showing militaristic prowess to prove masculinity and dominance.

Yes, show!Viserys largely didn't give him the "attention" (more here later) that he gave Rhaenyra, but this neither shows that Aegon truly "cares" since he constantly rapes, has his own bastard kids fight each other when he could have easily set up much better living conditions or have them grow up well-off--as most European noblemen did in real life, even Henry VIII. Viserys not giving him attention doesn't excuse, erase, or undermine how Aegon freely chose to abuse others. Dyana didn't ask to be raped, no one does. Should we ignore her pain for Aegon's "microexpressions"? Daemon's mother passing doesn't excuse his treatment of Rhea Royce (whether he kills her or not, show or book...in the book he still is nasty towards her), while also not having ever raped or SAed women (or really, that being a apart of his character GRRM chose to highlight). Both are princes. And many other men choose not to sexually abuse women despite actual abuse at home -- Samwell Tarly. Who is also a pretty emotional but also actually caring individual. He is not a prince. Aegon doesn't need to be named heir nor will it have a positive effect on the realm if he was made king, like how Rhaenyra needed to be Queen bc it's setting a better precedent for female rulership not just for the throne, but for women/girls to be more included in noble lines of succession and/or to lessen the probability of attempts to unseat female heirs who ascend to their places (Jeyne Arryn). That how Rhaenyra, who had been slandered to be undeserving bc of her gender--something Aegon will never receive and is actual discrimination--also benefits to affirm her worth. Finally, Aegon had to start a war and kill thousands to get what he wanted; Rhaenyra would have peacefully housed him after her ascension. so there's that.

HotD is really uwuing this man, bc canonically he just sees the throne as his male-given right; it was never about "confidence in capabilities" or "who'd make the best ruler" for Aegon. Or the greens. It just never was. Even in the show, if you think for 2 seconds, the only logical reason why he would care so much abt Viserys's treatment of him vs Rhaenyra is abt the throne. Viserys didn't "like" him? Oh, well, maybe that is bc the writers decided not to include the fact that bkViserys spent a lot of time with Helaena and that his probable distance b/t his sons is precisely bc they feel that Rhaenyra, his chosen heir, should not be queen? And that is coming from Otto/Alicent coaching them that way, thus creating that divide?

Viserys actually doesn't treat Rhaenrya all that well despite her being his heir: forcing to marry Laenor, [show] punishing her or castigating her for feelings she rightly has towards marriage after he treated Aemma the way he did, reneging on his deal about Otto with he, etc.

bk!Aegon is threatening Rhaenyra before she gave her first terms, impatient to imprison Rhaenyra after the coronation before those terms, calls her a whore after hearing the terms, etc. He may feel bitter and sad about Viserys not giving what he thought was his "birthright", but I think the showrunners knew that this would not endear him to audiences or make them care abt his PoV, bc this is such a privileged sense of entitlement that is actually dangerous that goes beyond any slander against Rhaenyra's pride to be a female Targaryen heir. Viserys, as king, chose Rhaenya and that is well within his right as king, by these feudal monarchist customs. Female heirs have been chosen in Westeros. even with those girls and women having been chosen only bc there was no viable male candidate, or the ones there were too young, etc., they were still chosen and active in wars in different ways. Plus, if we actually care about victims, which a lot of those women were, you'd also see that having a female heir even with a male candidate, is a better step in the right direction of possibly minimizing that rather than to keep the male-preference primogeniture where the younger male is heir keeps going. Rhaenyra never victimized anyone at that point; Aegon had already done so to serving girls and that 12 year old. In the show, Aegon abuses Helaena by her own words about his sexing her only when he is drunk, but this is throwaway and we are not given a fuller picture (w/o actually showing us the sex, we can still witness their dynamic but as it is they have never been in the same room and we never saw them interact or try to, which HotD clearly takes advantage of bc a lot of people are not cognizant of this or care).

He "cares" about himself and pathetically whines about how he wasn't given or thought to be given what he thinks he deserves based on gender privilege. Boohoo. No one said he was emotionless in the first place! Should I feel bad for a man who doesn't get the expected privileges for being a man?

[bestworstcase]

some thoughts—messy ones—abt this beat:

this moment gets brought up with… honestly surprising regularity when people want to make a point about cinder being -redeemable- because she is, obviously, freaked out here. and like i don’t disagree that this scene and this specific beat in particular is doing really critical work to set up cinder’s villain->hero arc (not redemptive) but i do think “see! she’s repulsed by his wanton brutality!” is an odd and kind of reductive way to parse what’s happening here bc

that

is

a

grimm

thats a grimm. cinder reveled in the mass hysteria and violence she authored at the fall of beacon, personally reduced ozpin to a charred smear on the floor, and murdered a seventeen year old child in cold blood and gloated about it later. her first and only coping mechanism for Feels Bad is Killing People. it sparks joy. but she can’t stomach the sight of her coworker mauling a grimm.

ok? context is important. zoom out—

this is how salem’s training her—trying to train her—to mastery of the grimm arm. just throwing grimm at her until she reflexively falls back on her human arm, and then drops.

enough. i thought you were the girl who wanted power. stop holding back. if you want to master your new power, you must—

enter tyrian. and then for the whole dialogue between him and salem cinder gets framed like this:

folds hands.

the point of this scene is that cinder did lie to salem; she is not The Girl Who Wanted Power. what did she tell rhodes after she killed the madame? “i won’t have to run now.” she wants a home. she wants to be safe. she wants freedom. she believes—because the world has never given her a reason to believe otherwise—that becoming powerful is the only way she can ever get what she wants. but she does not, per se, want power.

and salem does not understand this because cinder has hitherto been very careful to keep her true motivation hidden, primarily because the last time she showed vulnerability her quasi-parental mentor immediately drew on her and shattered her ability to trust into a billion itty bitty pieces. cinder is, throughout this scene, very careful not to let salem see any of the stricken or pleading looks that the audience gets to see.

stop holding back.

tyrian interrupts when he does because salem can’t see through the mask cinder has presented to her (and is frustrated because she therefore can’t understand why cinder is being so timid with the phenomenal power she used to, it bears repeating, literally wipe the floor with ozpin)—and because what cinder takes from all of this is that salem wants her to be more brutal, like tyrian. there’s a reason cinder starts practicing on illusory rubys after this and why she’s frustrated and confused by salem’s judicious tactics in V5.

see? the beginning is the end and the end is the beginning; the scene is mirrored and tyrian is the looking glass. this:

is the guilt later renewed as horror:

there’s layers to cinder having this empathetic response to grimm when grimm are subjected to violence. obviously part of it is that cinder herself is grimm, at least in part, and that identification is conspicuously made present in the scene—

—but it goes beyond that. “you turned yourself into a monster just for power”/“look who’s talking.” think about how tenderly cinder says “shh, this is your home now” to the wyvern in V3. grimm are not the monsters in cinder’s story; they never have been. the abuse she suffered from her own kind was so horrific and unrelenting that it engendered a sense of kinship with the grimm. before she got that arm she was stitching grimm markings into the sleeves of her dress.

but insofar as this beat and this scene is integral to cinder’s nascent villain->hero arc the load-bearing pillar here is the contradiction between cinder’s notional aspiration (power) and her true motivation (freedom safeguarded by power), and the way her identification with and empathy for the grimm are tied up in that and the manner in which she tries to give salem what she thinks salem wants from her (i.e. be more like tyrian). which all comes back around with this ->

notably in 8.6 salem not only recants her harsh treatment of cinder since cinder returned but also reverses the things she says to cinder in 4.11. “i thought you were the girl who wanted power […] then stop holding back” -> “you’ve fought your whole life unwaveringly for what you want, and here i am holding you back instead of lifting you up.”

basically the rivalry between cinder and tyrian pulls a lot of symbolic weight because what tyrian represents vis-a-vis the salem-cinder dynamic is their shared misunderstanding of each other; salem accepts the ruthless power-hunger at face value and cinder reads into salem’s frustration a desire for cinder to be more brutal and both of them are incorrect. the framing of the disciplinary/apology scene in 8.6 communicates the shifting paradigm in part by adjusting his prominence in the composition of key shots before and after the pivot. and then salem sends him away to babysit the c-lister in vacuo.

point being the narrative development toward cinder’s villain->hero arc is also the narrative development toward salem’s villain->hero arc because they are structurally interdependent and constructed as a set; they’re meant to happen together and because of each other. that’s the trajectory. also cinder is keeping the arm and salem is not getting ungrimmed thank you goodnight

[spacerockfloater]

Hey friends and foes, the following post was submitted by beloved @florencegracia , whom I’d like to thank so much for taking the time to share their views with me and our mutuals! It’s always very nice to have such polite conversations with people from TB. I think the outcome of these discussions is beneficial to everyone involved! Your perspective is very much welcome and needed here! I would like to request from everyone who wants to add to this conversation to do so kindly, with an open mind! Toxicity and hate towards OP or me will not be tolerated.

So happy finding ur page bcs im TB and everyone around me is TB too. I need another perspective from TG 😃

I dont read the book but i read wiki of ice&fire and others so my apologies if i misunderstand some.

Thanks again for your submission, you are a peach! No worries at all, this blog mainly discusses the TV show rather than the book either way. And besides, F&B can be interpreted in many different ways, no one can be absolutely right or wrong in their opinion!

1. I agree that Alicent sacrifices a lot. And it is up to her that she is with Cole after Viserys dies bcs she is a free woman now. Even if there is adultery during the marriage, i dont really care. But i still think that she is a hypocrite bcs she approached Viserys behind Rhaenyra’s back and never told Rhaenyra but she expects Rhaenyra to always tell her the truth. Yes, she was used by Otto but still she is not truthful to Rhaenyra so how she expects Rhaenyra to be truthful to her.

This is actually such an interesting take that I never dwelled much upon! Huh, now that you mention it, it does leave a bad taste that Alicent never told Rhaenyra about her interactions with Viserys. However, I do not exactly believe that these two situations are equal. Alicent was forced by her father to go and visit Viserys against her will and Viserys himself commanded her to not share their conversations with Rhaenyra (a typical thing abusers do). What’s more is that the nature of their relationship with Viserys wasn’t explicit or even romantic! She was just a girl being nice to him! Even Alicent herself was shocked when Viserys announced he intends to marry her. It was difficult for Alicent, who was lost in her misery, to tell her also miserable friend that their fathers are abusing her, especially after the king himself forbade her to do so. And Rhaenyra showed no understanding to her situation, especially since all of that happened against Alicent’s will. Rhaenyra, on the other hand, was responsible for her own actions and concealing the truth from the girl who spent years of her life trying to apologise for what happened to her and tried her best to help her, would make anyone in Alicent’s shoes feel betrayed, me thinks.

2. I understand that Cole is very disappointed with Rhaenyra for turning his proposal down and thus siding with Alicent. I was thinking that he wants to keep his honor and seek redemption by doing his duty with honor. But then he is with Alicent, which keeps me wondering. My guess is probably that they both have the same enemy and can share the same feelings. Alicent ofcourse cant hate/complaint abt Rhaenyra to Viserys so probably she pours down her frustation to Cole and then they develop feelings to each other.

I think there’s more to Criston’s hatred towards Rhaenyra than her turning down his proposal. If you rewatch the scene, as I recently did, you’d see that Rhaenyra is awfully cruel to him. She speaks at him angrily and diminishes him. She calls him not worthy enough for her and rubs salt in his wounds by flaunting how much of a perfect husband Laenor is going to be. And the ultimate blow is that she finishes by telling him “We can still fuck tho!”. That’s such a fuckboy behaviour. She doesn’t respond when Criston desperately holds her accountable for what she did to him, how much he put on the line for her. What he did with Rhaenyra is punishable by death or castration. People need to remember what happened to princess Saera’s lovers! And to top it all off, he finds out Rhaenyra’s husband’s boyfriend knows all about it and threatens his life! He switches sides and becomes loyal to Alicent because she is the only one to show him some sympathy and mercy. I think their relationship is much deeper than people make it out to be. Coming close due to trauma and common experiences is a very strong bond. I never liked the jokes about how Alicent and Cole are together solely because of their mutual hatred/ yearning/ whatever for Rhaenyra, their literal abuser (at least from their side of the story). It removes the agency from two broken, abused SA victims and it disturbs me a lot. They experience how the Targaryens mistreat one another first hand. And, in Criston’s eyes, he has already lost his honour and feels like he’ll never be able to atone for his sins, as he says in this season. It’s kinda cruel to demand that he keeps the celibacy oath he gave to the Targaryens, who literally used him for sex, if not abused him.

3. For me, Rhaenyra’s bastards are the same like Cersei’s bastards. Cersei sacrifies her life to become Robert’s queen so that she can give throne to her kids and Robert does not care who will be the next king since he is too heartbroken to care whatever happens after he dies. Same like Rhaenyra. I guess Laenor doesnt care whose children are they since he cant give any children but he needs someone to continue his name/legacy. And the fact that Rhaenys and Corlys do not question the bastardy, i think they also feel the same thing.

I think I might be able to provide some insight on this, as a book reader! Cersei specifically doesn’t really sacrifice anything to become Robert’s Queen. The position is open handedly given to her in exchange for her father financially supporting Robert. In fact, Cersei has never willingly sacrificed anything in her life. She simply refuses to do so because she grew up very spoiled and entitled. Cersei was excited to marry Robert at first, until she realised that he’ll always be in love with Lyanna. If we’re to take Cersei’s word for it, she and Robert did have a son that died young and Robert was immensely heartbroken and angry over his death. Robert very much cares about who inherits the throne after him, that’s why his dying act as a king is to make sure his son (who he thinks is his) becomes king after him. Things would be very different had he known the truth. At the same time, even if Robert, Corlys, Viserys and any other lord did not care about who inherits their titles, this doesn’t change the fact that there are still laws that protect the rightful heirs from getting robbed off of their inheritance! Imagine if your brother, who practically has no heirs of his own, was the current holder of your family’s ancestral house which he did not himself build, and instead of leaving it to you, his blood, he was okay with the house getting passed on to a person that has no connection with your family. That wouldn’t be fair to you, would it? The ruling titles of House Velaryon and House Targaryen are not personal properties of Viserys and Corlys just because they happen to be their current holders. The titles have existed long before them. Vaemond Velaryon getting passed over, especially after he shed blood and money for his house in the Stepstone’s war, was an absolute disgrace. Sure, Viserys might have been justified in a way to change the law and allow his daughter to inherit the title because that’s still his blood, even if it was unfair to Aegon and Aemond according to tradition, but Corlys and Rhaenys had absolutely no right to humiliate Vaemond like that.

4. My understanding is that in the book both Rhaenyra and Alicent want the throne and the issue is abt female vs male heir, thus Rhaenys keep supporting Rhaenyra despite whatever. But the show cant make it abt female vs male heir since it will not sell in 2024. In the show, the main reason is misunderstanding since even Rhaenyra in season 1 is shown to not really want the throne but just to honor his father’s wish. Which is very weird since in GOT, many female character blatantly said they want the iron throne or become the queen.

I see what you’re trying to say! Yup, it’s absolutely true that the show doesn’t know what they’re doing with the storyline anymore. At first Rhaenyra doesn’t want to be queen. Then she does. Then she does even more. Then she is not certain. Book!Rhaenyra was much more adamant about sitting the throne at all costs. The TV show has removed the agency of all its female characters. If you take a closer look, you’d see that all the female characters are saints that compete for the Nobel Peace Prize. Alicent, Rhaenyra, Rhaenya, Mysaria, Alys Rivers: they all care about the well being of the people first and foremost and their own aspirations come second! On the other hand, the men, Daemon, Aegon, Aemond, Jace, Criston, are quick to go to war and give no fucks about the aftermath of it! Ryan Condal, HOTD’s producer, had informed us that this show was going to be a “feminist” retelling of the Dance of the Dragons, the feminism being that all women are good and all men are bad. That’s why it has turned into such a dumpster fire.

[numberonenarinderhater]

Another thing that make me not like Narinder that much is how oversaturated he is ( this also does include lamb goat and the bishops to some degree too ) to the point the other characters ( ie the npcs ) just get pushed aside for angsty black kitty cat x lamb romance and sibling angst

Like the other npcs are interesting! There’s so much you can do with Sozo, Ratau, Fox, Chemach/Clauneck,Kudaai, Forneus hell even Midas! But it seems ppl rlly only care abt Narinder like 90% of the time bc I barely even see ppls lambs have relationships with the npcs outside of Ratau

I am begging- nay, pleading- for more expansion on the game's world, especially from fans! I feel like other games get more people theorizing and speculating and its all really really fun!

I'm not sure why i don't seem to see that more often with cotl but I don't think its the fault of the game and definitely not the NPC characters, who all seem to have real depth and make you feel as if they could carry on long conversations with you if they could.

Ratau is a great example of this, and I so wish Narinder was more like him in some ways. He's old and jaded and a bit creepy at times, but he has a warm, worldly demeanor and a canny edge. My favorite thing about him is that once you get to know him, you feel like he's testing you, judging you, and observing you from a careful distance. He never calls any of your actions as a cult leader into question but some of the things he says in regards to it feel like tests. Does he really believe in making followers into mindless servants? Because he seems like a nice enough guy who, if he and his friends are to be believed, walked away from all that apparent power and influence on his own. That doesn't really seem like the actions of a Machiavellian megalomaniac who would sincerely advise you to do whatever you please with your followers. Not to me, at least.

I could be wrong but he also seems to be losing Knucklebones to the player on purpose. This guy's been playing for years against a handful of sharkish friends and he's really learned so little in all that time that he's the lowest difficulty challenge amongst all of them? I doubt it. It seems more like the behavior of a friend who wants to get you interested in playing and has enough pride to not care about losing. Why should be offended to lose against the Lamb when they have so much in common? (Or maybe when that's a dangerous person to embarrass?) He seems like the type who would rather everyone just get along in his own strange way.

He's still mysterious and threatening and he may even have a darker past wherein he really did abuse and mistreat his cult, but there's a sense that he's grown past wanting that kind of influence. He's become calm and disciplined, too old or too wise or too tired for petty grabs at power. If he had to, he absolutely could teach someone not to misunderstand him, but he doesn't want to. That's fascinating to me.

This contrast is really missing from Narinder's character, something to offset his bad moods and desperation for control. For a guy whose whole thing was waiting, he sure seems impatient and immature? That wouldn't be a terrible thing but his dialogue and actions never seem to embrace that rash attitude or the conflict between his need to be patient and his burning desire to get what he wants now. He'd still be a fucking brat but at least he could be a smart brat? Someone who conserves their energy, enjoys lying in wait, and makes it a bit less damn obvious that he's going to betray us. He doesn't make a very shocking predator or villain because it's just so clear that he's not on the player's side. That made have made a good opportunity to make him into the type to play cat and mouse (no pun intended), to toy with his vessel and humiliate them into subservience, but he doesn't seem to have ever expected Lamb to ever betray him. That kind of arrogance could be interesting too but it's kinda feeble and unintelligent.

He's only ever just a brat- and an incompetent one at that. It's a funny characterization and I'd be more amused by it if it didn't wear so thin.

Boooring. Sorry for the long reply but... y'know what i mean??

[bylertruther]

random thought, but i feel like putting all of the blame on karen for the fact tht mike doesn't open up to her is a little ...................... (insert vague hand motion here bc i can't think of a fitting, not-childish eloquent word) ????

yes she's the parent and yes she does have to make the effort to create an environment where he feels welcome to share and talk to her, but karen cannot force mike to open up. mike doesn't respond well to his parents being overbearing and honestly he doesn't react well to ANYONE coming at him head-on no matter how close they are to him.

mike needs to come to people on his own terms when he's ready and collected himself. and karen knows that! she literally says that to ted when ted offers to go talk to him in s1 because they know will's death and disappearance is hard on him. and no i don't think they should've taken away his toys aka doled out a punishment when mike wasn't cooperating in s2, because that's simply Not how you handle such a situation, but they did it because they thought well if us being "soft" isn't working then maybe us putting our foot down will get through to him. it's not like they did it bc they thought to themselves "lmao fuck that guy 🖕".

and even though mike doesn't seek support through verbal means like nancy does, he does seek comfort from her through physical affection! and karen does give it to him! whenever he feels like he's lost will, he goes to her and breaks down in her arms and she drops everything to go hold him.

the point is that when mike does go to her, she's there. they all care about and love each other in that family, including ted. karen and ted are not plot-involved parents like joyce and hopper are, and we're not going to get a deep dive into any of the other families unless it's relevant to the plot. ... as we've literally already seen before?

and ted is the way he is because he's written as the kind of father that spends all day at work to provide for his family and gets home and just wants to watch tv and eat dinner and go to sleep and repeat that ad nauseam for the rest of his life bc tht's just what you do and you only have so much energy (smth smth silly little play). i'm not saying he's father of the year and no one should ever comment on his involvement with his kids, but... that's just his role to play in this story.

he's clueless abt the crazy shit that goes down in hawkins the same way that everyone else is clueless abt it but that doesn't make him a bad guy lol. there's purposeful juxtaposition of him chillin' watching the news cover everything up while joyce and hopper and the kids are out there losing their minds almost dying fighting monsters saving the world etc etc. it's supposed to be comical. he lives here and he has no idea what's really happening, unlike us and the central characters of the show.

not every family has to look or act like the byers or sinclair family to be Good. you can try your best to get someone to talk to you, but they're not going to do it if they don't want to. mike is a hothead that doesn't often share or even totally understand what he's feeling, and if he does, he rarely opens up all the way. he still keeps certain things to himself and only reveals just enough to achieve his goals. it's mainly when he's apologizing over something big that he manages to be open, and that isn't even something that happens often or outside of a situation that necessitates it.

and the whole "not knowing exactly where your kids are, but knowing they're with their friends somewhere and that they'll be home later tonight" isn't a sign of abuse or that they don't care. that's what life was like before the technology that we have now, and that level of freedom was the POINT. it's a big part of WHY the duffers chose the eighties. such a story wouldn't work with our current technology. that isn't even an experience exclusive to those that are 30+ or whatever. i'm in my twenties and i remember my childhood being like that.

like. i don't think it's as black and white of an issue as some people suggest. the wheelers haven't been perfect parents, but they're not malicious and they do love their children, even if they clearly don't always understand them. saying that karen and ted don't care about or love their children and that they're on the same level of neglect as lonnie is just... i mean. what?

[stirdrawsandreblaws]

stupid bitter trauma ramble under the cut

this is a Me Issue. and it is petty. but I still need to scream abt it.

just saw a post saying the whole living weapon thing as an allegory for being traumatically assigned and raised male goes hard as hell. and on the one hand yeah! i can see it, absolutely, for many if not most trans fem folks

i was taught how to use a real gun and where to shoot to kill a person when i was in elementary school. even before that, my father had me watch all kinds of war movies and documentaries with gruesome depictions in an effort to desensitize me, and both he and his dad (my grandpa) liked to show me shit from rotten dot com (shock images site featuring real dead people in horrific accidents and so on)

but on the other hand...not for my sister.

my father (antivaxx eugenicist right-wing weirdo) literally had me believing i had to lay down my life to defend my "brothers". as an expendable elder sister. Yknow. "When the government comes for us" or whatever.

my father's mom had me, as a very small child, come out and sing to calm her husband and her brother during an armed standoff...maybe 10 mins after my mom had come in and told me and my sister to lay in specific places so the risk of bullets hitting us through the walls was low. nah, into the line of fire with me!! totally fine!!!

I was socially isolated, and physically and mentally abused to the point of depersonalization--for many years just seeing myself as a living, breathing tool with the sole purpose of taking care of the "men" in my life in every and any way demanded of me.

Thanks to all that, I identified hard with child soldiers (probs most notably gundam pilots like amuro and heero) as a kid

and the idea that my sister (who A - got everything she wanted, especially if it could be taken from me; B - was praised and treated gently by everyone around her no matter how minimal the effort put in; C - had every single time she bit me hard enough to draw blood, or slammed my head into tile, or dragged me across the floor by my hair, or whatever all excused bc "that's just how boys are"; D - was allowed to eat whenever she wanted while i was expected to give up any food i had AND pay for both my sib's school lunches at the expense of my own since i was already working at fucking 12 years old) had an upbringing in any fucking way comparable to the hell i went through makes me unspeakably angry

And I can say for sure it is still not at all comparable. If any of us three are the living weapon, it's me; the automaton intended to keep her, the dear and important first son in our family's eyes, cushioned and protected from the world, propped up on my fucking back.

I don't doubt she suffered, of course, even outside of stuff that was recontextualized after she came out. I saw everything firsthand. I was there navigating everything for all of us siblings. I know she suffered. We were only a year apart in age, after all; I saw everything at home and school, and since my mom treated me like a second parent and confidant (instead of, yknow, like her kid), I got extra insight!!

She was handed everything else she wanted of mine, growing up, but fuck if I'll let her have this now.

[sh1mmer-add1ct]

mwahahahaha i love your ocs. giggle. OK 1, 3, 21 AND 22 FOR VIOLET, RILEY, MIA, N KAI 🤭🤭!!!!!

GAY ASS!!

1.Do they sleep with a stuffed animal? If they have multiple, who’s the favorite?

Riley: Yes tf. (she regularly beats the shit out of them) 192792927392847 of them. NO space on her bed. There's barley space for her 💀 her faves are the ones she got from Jack and Leo (even if she doesn't have them anymore)

Kai: YES BAAHAHHEJR but he's embarrassed and only has a few. They're like. Those ones from hot topic w skeletons n shi. Idk what u expected from him.

Violet: Naur. She got her girlfriend :3 tiddy > stuffed animals. She thinks they're cute though

Mia: No bc she's too embarrassed, plus she got her man so

3. Ask them to describe their love interest

Kai+Violet essentially the same shit, “ethereal, beautiful, etc etc” yk. Except Kai can’t spell or pronounce ANY of the fucking words 😭😭 Kai don’t let anyone else say that kina shit if he don’t know them though, shit is not flying.

MIAS GONNA CALL HIM A FUCKING LOSER 😭😭 but like “he’s such a loser <3..you say that shit and I’ll fucking kill you though, perra.” N then “he’s so cute, even though HE doesn’t think so”

Girl…don’t ask Riley cause you ain’t leaving. THIS LIT APPLIES TO ANY OF HER POOKIES SHE WILL NOT SHUT RHE FUCK UP BAHHAHAWNKENE (she’s insane.)

22. What would it take for them to break up with someone? What would be the last straw?

Kai: he’s only ever had one boyfriend, so he doesn’t really know, but like. It’d be some transphobic shit. He’s a cannibal so like, there’s really not much that’s going to bother him

Riley: it took a LOT for her to be done w Jordan..so..honestly, you’d have to do something FUCKED up. She’s so clingy and honestly unstable/used to abuse n shit that she’d rather deal with it than break up. W Jordan it was the consistent cheating and abuse, like, he didn’t love her, at all. He was in it because he loved how dependent she was on him, that she didn’t leave because of his bullshit, until it got to be too much. So it’d be like that :3

Mia: Touching her without consent. Accidental or not. Absolutely not. Like, holding hands, hugging, kissing, shit like that’s fine. If it’s accidental you got abt .5 seconds to try to apologize. Or seriously calling her a whore/slut/anything like that BECAUSE of what happened. WORLD STAR‼️‼️ YOURE FUCKIN DEAD (either way you’re dead tbh…)

Violet: has also only had one actual relationship, so she doesn’t really know, but it’d be like, cheating, though she wouldn’t react so violently (probably.)

22. Do they like being called pet names? Do they call other people pet names? What’s their go-to?

news flash they all fuckijg LOVE being called pet names

Kai: HE WILL ACTUVALLY IMPLODE IF HE GETS CALLED A PET NAME (ESPECIALLY SHIT LIKE PRETTY BOY OR HANDSOME GOOD GOD) he’s not really huge on calling other people pet names other than if it’s romantic, to him, they’re separate from nicknames. He’s not really good at English (help that poor little gay boy he’s Japanese and dyslexic) so he prefers saying them in Japanese. AINT no one know what he saying but it’s usually along the lines of: cutie, pretty boy, and bunny :3

Riley: shocker!! Didn’t get called pet names before, so. Yeah. She fuckig loves them, esp from pookies <3 SHES DEPRIVED‼️‼️‼️ Also not big on using them unless they’re romantically, she’s basic 💔, shit like babe, baby, cutie, darling, honey, or some like. Animal/flower that reminds her of her bookie :3

Violet: 🤯🤯 shocker she’s also fucking deprived, but she only likes them from women. Bc. Lesbian. She actively does. Not. Like being called pet names or nicknames by men. Usually using shit like her gf (picking up on mannerisms) but also beautiful, love/lovely.

Mia: does not like them from anyone besides her pookie, trauma shit lmao. She doesn’t care if people call her nicknames, but pet names are pookie only shi. LOVESSS to say shit in Spanish, mostly Mi Amor/Mi vida <3 she think she romantic asf abt it (she is.)

[rreskk]

heyyy ! im super curious to know who u'd match me up with if ur still doing these x))

im short (5'1-3" i think), bi, filipino, have glasses and am plus size. i have too much tiddy (G cups,, my back is in constant agony), am also hourglass-ISH shaped but also have a tummy,, also have large arms thx to working construction gigs in the summers (which has also given me a lotta scars on my hands/arms). my hair is a long-ish wolfcut n v dark brown almost black. i have 34 tattoos,, mostly on my arms but a few on my legs. my skintone is pretty tan and my eyes are dark brown

i dress v androgynously,(dont like to appear feminine.) big tshirts, baggy n ripped jeans, flannels, skate shoes, "grandpa sweaters" etc. dont wear jewelry/accessories aside from my piercings (ears and septum) and dont wear makeup

personality wise im v quiet. loooove listening to other ppl talk n not having to talk myself lol. been told im the "mom friend," too many times . been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and major depressive disorder. i also have a lotta trouble concentrating and a rlly shit memory bc of past substance abuse issues so day to day life can be a bit difficult but i try to maintain a positive outlook/be optimistic ! i also v rarely get angry (honestly even when i rlly should be)

my music taste is wildly varied LOL but some fav artists are The Go! Team, Death Grips, The Avalanches, Big Thief, Froth, The Murlocs, and King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard .

aaaaand i think thats abt it ✌️

I match you with… Trevor!

Physical appearance, as far as I concern, is varied between what suits Trevor best and your physique… my oh my, he loves tummies and (as we all know) big tits. Trevor would love all of you, head to toe. He’ll scatter you with love and affection because… he’s simply pleased and very aroused by your overall large arms and one of many tattoos. As a tattoo maniac himself, Trevor’s favourite thing to do is kiss each of your tattoos, every chance he gets.

In response to your aesthetic in general, Trevor doesn’t care about fashion. Although he likes many types of people and tastes, he adores your sense of casualness. Despite having a simple outfit, he likes how it fits around your body. The baggy shirts? He’ll sneak up behind you and shove his hands up like the devil he is. Trevor finds many ways to express his… odd affections, even if that’s getting under your skin… (getting under your clothes).

Ahhh… sensing your ‘mother’ vibe, he is immediately drawn. Wise, quiet, nervous. The opposite of him… but he loves it. Trevor finds comfort in you. His chaos cannot be balanced without your presence. He needs you around him at all times or he’ll go insane, literally. Having someone introverted and quite reasonable makes him all giddy. He sees you as someone he can trust and rely on, something he missed during childhood and later life. You replace his internal worries.

When encountering your history of substance abuse, Trevor understands. He has the tendencies to go… overboard with his own addictions, however, just like how protective he is over Jimmy and alcohol, he’ll keep a close eye on you. Because you are caring and loving toward him, Trevor feels the need to return this efforts and he will by supporting you through the thick and thin. He may be the last person on earth to be good at comforting but he knows how to make you laugh.

Besides… he’ll teach you how to use your anger correctly ;)

Joking. DONT TRUST TREVOR WITH ANGER. Moving on…

Trevor finds your music taste unique. He listens to more… typical angry punk but after hearing your varied songs, he’ll sometimes… just sometimes dig the vibe. You’ll have to catch him on a good day.

(A/N: Thank you for requesting! I’m intrigued with the tattoos! What’s your fav one? I love tattoos hahah)

[cheemken]

Man, how WOULD Iris react to her friends asking her about the champions dragging her to hell and back??

She’d definitely freak out because they KNOW. They know what happens behind closed doors and the last person who found out got murdered for it. She already lost her grandfather, she doesn’t want to lose the last people she truly cares about

Maybe she’s try comfort Hilbert, telling him that he had no idea what was happening and it wasn’t his fault. He couldn’t have known, she really, really didn’t want to tell any of them what happened because she feared for their lives

Also so true King “This is Home” is definitely the Unova Kids in the Villain AU. They (slightly) don’t care about what Iris was done, or how she acts now, they just want their friend back. Now that they know that her new personality is the result of the champions abusing her mentally and physically, they have a reason to help her come back to them. To come back home where she belongs, not with the champions

But ough just Hilbert pulling her close and hugging her, trying not to cry right then and there because they’re comforting Iris not him. And just the other four joining the hug and telling Iris that it’s okay, they’ll help her, she doesn’t have to do this alone anymore, and that they’re sorry they never truly helped her in the past

Man Iris is just sobbing. She finally got genuine comfort and love from someone for the first time in years. Not like the champions who’d do it to mess with her head. And she’s clinging so tightly to them, scared that they’ll disappear if she lets go, but she’s knows that her friends can’t do anything, she won’t let them.

Because the last person who interfered died, and she doesn’t want the same to happen to the only people keeping her sanity intact. She’s BREAK if it were to happen

And Diantha knows just that

Bro I'm

YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME😭😭😭😭

No but

OUGH‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

No cause I've been thinking abt that last night too😭😭😭

Like,,,, OUGH VHDMFBMDBD shit how can I be normal after this the bw brainrot is so fucking real today

Imagine tho, Iris almost doesn't wanna leave the others bc if she does, then the Champions might attack them the same way they did w Drayden, and God she can't lose them, not them, please not them I love them please don't take them away from me too, and god she's there clinging tight on to Hilbert, crying on his chest going on how she's fucking terrified to let go, she's terrified to leave them, cause the last time someone knew abt this, the last time she left that person too, she came back to him on the floor dead with all the champions around him, and just jcmcbcnd

And the others tell her that she doesn't have to deal w the Champions anymore, that they're taking her away from them, and if they have to fight them then so be it, they don't care, they'll save Iris from them

And suddenly... Suddenly Diantha's there, the other champions too

"my, my, have I not told you that a champion doesn't cry, Iris?" She says, eyes glowing, the other champions w her, a Master Ball in hand.

And god Iris could just feel the dread and terror sinking in too, her hands were trembling as she slowly looked at Diantha, that lazy smirk on the Kalos Champion's face.

"you know, when Gengar had told me about your meeting with your friends, I paid no heed. Of course, you and Hau have your own friends, don't you?" Then she sighed, almost disappointed, "and now you want to battle us champions?"

Hilbert pulls Iris close to him, growling at Diantha, "she's not the only one, we'll battle you too. You're not taking Iris away from us."

Diantha laughs at that, then she snapped her fingers, and a strong psychic surge went through them, and then the others except Iris and Hilbert were held within Gardevoir's psychic hold. "You two.. well, I heard Iris always wanted to share that Champion title with you. Very well. If you two beat me in a battle, we'll leave them be, Iris." She then walked to the other side of the field, the same poise and elegance she always had. "But if you lose... Well, they can just say hi to your grandfather for us, then."

God imagine if that's how the others found out abt what really happened to Drayden tho cjmxnxm that he really didn't die of health issues, he was killed, by the champions no less

and Diantha's there waiting for them, calling out both Gengar and Gardevoir on the field, her hand over her Key Stone, the other outstretched towards them, "you two go first."

Hilbert finally lets go of Iris, but took her hand instead, telling her that they can win this, they have to, they will, and Iris, finally feeling some of the weight off her shoulders, nodded at him, and both of them called out Hydreigon and Emboar. Kyurem and Reshiram at the helm, waiting for the right time to attack, knowing full well Yveltal is on the other side of the field, waiting to be called out as well.

[justsomeoneunordinary]

I guess that one of the reasons why people hate Hiruzen so much is because he was a bit of a pushover, and could've been more firm in his decisions. Leaving Orochimaru alive and the handling of the Uchiha Massacre are probably the biggest ones. Ppl probably hate Jiraiya solely for the Peeping Tom trope. Both of them never getting 𝒔𝒆𝒓𝒊𝒐𝒖𝒔 push-back for these flaws by the narrative, despite their awful actions, definitely doesn't help. What other villains do u like to hate? Mine's Kabuto!🤓

no, see, i fully get why people don't like them. i'm no fan of either of them either. but hatred is just such a strong intense feeling for a character that is at the end of the day just badly written and don't even have that much of a prominent presence. the sheer energy that goes into hating them is just baffling to me.

if hiruzen had deliberately been written with a dark side, if he had been a man who had shown a kind grandfatherly facade from the outside but done deep fucked up shit (such as deciding the uchiha must die because of the coup) in the shadow, now that not only would make him a well written, more realistic character, but also would deserve the hatred he gets.

like danzo? he is a well written character. his motivations make sense. he's power-hungry and abuses his powers and truly believes do konoha good with what he does. he deserves hatred. (tho tbh i find him too fascinating bc of all this to hate him either lol)

as it is, however, kishi meant to show hiruzen as the good kind guy whose kindness leads to leniency (? is that the right word? i'm too lazy to look it up) which is a flaw but still means to show how good he is. and that's just boring. to feel such strong hatred against such a poorly written character is beyond me. if anything i hate kishi for his poor decisions and not hiruzen for being written poorly...

as for jiraiya, he's a character in a shonen manga. ofc there must be at least one pervert man. what shonen manga doesn't have a jiraiya? and i'll be honest - the whole pain arc with jiraiya's death is so well done and heartfelt and i cry every. single. time during it. where's that post that says "i don't care how bad naruto is, it has heart"? because yeah that. how do ppl not cry at jiraiya's heroic death and naruto's grief??? jiraiya is a good man and he was good to naruto and that means more to me than his perverse behavior and poorly written jokes which are to be expected in any shonen story, so yeah, i honestly truly don't know where ppl find the energy to hate such a character. dislike? yes. hate? no

as for me, i only truly hate villains that are realistic, everyday villains, such as umbrige from hp (yeah yeah ik ew hp in 2k23 but she's a perfect example bc everyone knows her), and naruto doesn't have such villains. i definitely dislike kabuto, he's just so fucking uninteresting and esp sleazy (i don't like sleazy characters like him) and his story went on for far too long, but what i hate more is that kishi gave him a backstory and a redemption arc which he really, really didn't fucking need. kishi couldn't find the time to show us sakura and her parents, what made her decide to become a kunoichi and other personal stuff, but he found the time and space to fit a boring ass catholic backstory for kabuto?????!!!!!!! i'm going to kill him with my own two hands istfg

there used to be sasori but that was back in my deidara fangirl phase when sasodei was all in my face and i couldn't give a shit abt sasori. i still don't care abt this puppet child, the only good thing is that he gave us a badass fight with sakura (and got killed by his own grandmother lmaooo get wrecked) but i don't hate him anymore as i used to once bc he's not so prominent anymore

the only characters i truly hate are charas that just fucking annoy me but are so prevalent, so in my face, that i can't fucking ignore them. that's when annoyance turns into hatred, and it applies to no naruto villain anymore for me. or any founders character for that matter, which makes this sub-fandom so relaxing to me

the only villain i hate is kishimoto himself. i want to strangle him and cut off his balls so fucking bad istfg

anyways this got way too long lol sorry abt that