#is Misteln not just the main antagonist in this arc?
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(I only know the story up to right before the fight with the Sage)
So far this arc is starting to feel arbitrary, and have Misteln cause the imprisonment of Seele (theory) while everyone, including the writers, except for Kira, portrays Misteln as a good guy.
I know this is just the start of chapter 38, but right now the optics of the story of it isnt all that good in my eyes. Dialogue scenes? Great. Animations in 3D scenes? Massive improvement. All that is great.
But the writing?
The further I go I keep asking myself why we are even there.
Why are we there? Misteln sent us there.
Why did Misteln send us there? She wants her Sage stigmata or whatever back.
Why are there problems in the bubble worlds? Because Misteln made Seele a second sage. (Not by herself, but she manipulated actions to qualify Seele for being a second sage)
Why are we fighting the Sage? Because Misteln made Seele a second sage.
Why did Misteln make Seele a second sage? Because she wants her sage stigmata back.
This wouldnt be that much of a problem, if it werent for everyone (except Kira) not viewing Misteln as the bad guy here.
Did I miss something? As far as I can remember the bubble world seemed rather stable beforehand, and the Sage is incredibly dedicated to being the Sage. So the issue of Forms/Stigmatas/whatever turning into monsters seems rather minimal in this case.
Like, we are helping them out and solving problems, that was caused due to Misteln arriving and wanting her stigmata piece back.
Again, am I missing something here so far?
Okay lets leave the writing behind and see what (again, mostly theories based on what has been said) can come from this arc.
The biggest thing Im seeing is Veliona being left alone in a more permanent way. This comes mostly from the fact that they could apparently seperate in the Sea of Quanta all this time, and how much "the tower locks the Sage in the tower" got repeated after Seele became the second sage.
But if that is the result, we got a fanservice Herrscher Seele battlesuit since Seele will be locked up in the tower and Veliona goes free. (Most of my issues would be calling it a "Herrscher" battlesuit. Why not "Sage of Rebirth Seele" or something? Mostly because Herrschers has normally had a bigger impact on the story than immediately being locked up.)
If that doesnt happen, and Seele and Veliona keep independent bodies, Misteln gets her Sage piece, and everyone goes home... Couldn't they just have blamed it on Sea of Quanta effects and tossed Seele and Veliona out of the Sea while they were still seperated, and give them independent bodies because "the Sea of Quanta doesnt obey our universe's laws"?
We could also have Seele and Veliona fully reunite, aaand for this one lets say they both get stuck in the tower. Okay, this one would be better. It'd get Seele out of the story (at least for now), but the main issue would remain if Misteln doesnt get portrayed as a bad guy for causing that.
And if they dont both get stuck but goes free... Then it all feels like an overly convuluted plan for Misteln because she wanted to get her Sage piece back in a different way than just brute force from the start. Would the worlds being Sageless even cause them both to collapse? Or would the Tower just choose another Sage? Did the worlds even have a Sage before the current Sage or what?
Back to Misteln.
Even if Seele WANTS to become a Sage and end up locked up to ensure the stability of the worlds, wouldnt that still make Misteln a selfish bad guy in this arc? The tower locks up the Sage in it. Its not just "the tower lets the Sage have the best power to govern both worlds" no, it actually forces the Sage to remain in the tower.
The current Sage seems VERY stable compared to the other stigma piece we saw right before Misteln and Prometheus came to the current bubble world. So in the end, everything would be cause by Misteln being a selfish piece of shit wanting her stigma piece back, yet the story does not want to portray that??
Its one thing have Misteln not see herself as a bad guy, but when the good guys AND THE WRITERS does not want to portray her that way either, what the hell??
The most we have is Kira, who seems to have most of her annoyances and distrust of Misteln centered around being tossed back deep into the Sea of Quanta. That, and not everyone immediately 100% trusting everything Misteln says, which is just common sense.
Misteln still led Seele down the path to become a second Sage which ended up causing a lot of instability and chaos in the bubble worlds.
>Ranting over.
Again, I am only up to right before the fight with the Sage. Possible that I missed something before or if this all will get cleared up in the future.
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finished act 1 of chapter 39 (the last chapter of the seele arc of 1.5) and my god i am LOVING ITTT!! The lore/scientific explanations are mostly easy to understand, and characters dumb it down for you. The story is gripping. Vita is a fucking queen. But most importantly.
The character dynamics??? are?? amazing????
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Like genuinely. Seele-Seele, Seele-Senti, Misteln-Prometheus, Misteln-Kira, Susannah-Kira, Kira-Seele. Shrodinger is a great addition, as someone who hasn't played the Durandal VN and was half paying attention to the Anti Entropy VN. I love how everyone wasn't just chummy with each other. Seele and Senti were taking constant potshots at each other, but had moments where they genuinely connected (Senti giving advice to Seele and Seele THANKING her??), Misteln and Kira is simply peak, Misteln and Prometheus' friendship is great, Susannah being like a little sister to Kira, and of course Seele and Seele are amazing. I'm not going to mention Vita rn bc I haven't finished everything, but she also did fantastically!
Real talk, I think this was one of the main problems of the moon arc. Not only was the cast too big (which is to be expected since it's the finale) but also they were all way too friendly with each other, my drama addicted brain can't pay attention like that. Oh also not understanding most of what was being said in the finale was also not very good i think.
I've already played part 2, and I did Fu Hua's part 2 stuff when I was a new player to get a free Senti so I knew Vita was going to be an antagonist and betray them, and I have to say the queen delivered. The different narration at times and then learning it was Vita? (Well I knew that already, but still) Her attacking Prometheus and talking with Schrodinger? Her musings about how people are always the same in the face of the apocalypse? The "I have never doubted my worthiness to stand against the stars" part and how the characters were thanking Vita for being omniscient, because it meant they were going to win, but internally being unsure and Vita knowing that? Chefs kiss. Her saying that she sincerely would have liked to live with them in peaceful times? Also her "last words" in her fake death being "I love you all"? I think she meant that. Genuinely. Even if not fully, then at least partly. That's what makes all this so beautiful. Everyone's efforts to stop the calamity, Vita dutifully playing the role of the villain AND the narrator. And I haven't finished it yet!! They knocked it out the park with this!!
#hi3rd#honkai impact#honkai impact 3#honkai impact 3rd#vita#vita hi3#vita honkai#vita hi3rd#seele vollerei#veliona#yeah honestly nothing but praise for this arc
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