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Love Is Stored in the Oatmeal Raisin Cookie
On Lizzie & Ripred
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The newest take Iā€™m seeing right now, both in the TUC tags and on my ā€œcontroversial TUC takesā€ post, is that Lizzieā€™s relationship with Ripred is unfounded and that the inclusion of it ā€œrobbedā€ us of a softer moment between Gregor and Ripred. I disagree with this take so much that I decided to write an entire essay about my thoughts on the subject. The most common argument I see against Lizzie is that she received Ripredā€™s affection, as well as his tragic backstory, after being present for a very short period of time, while Gregor has known Ripred for months. At a surface level, this may seem counterintuitive, but when we dig deeper into the characters and their behaviors, motivations, and allegiances, the thematic significance of Lizzieā€™s role in the story becomes apparent.
First and foremost, letā€™s take a look at Gregor. I love this kid so much, but I do believe that the core of this argument hinges on his more subtle flaws as a character. Consider this: the entirety of The Underland Chronicles is narrated from Gregorā€™s point-of-view. What does this mean for our perception of the story? We receive only the context that Gregor has, and we only receive the details that Gregor notices and finds important. Across the series, his understanding of the Underland and its denizens expands, grows, and solidifies. He is twelve by Code of Claw and very much still learning and growing, but some of beliefs have settled by this point.
This is where Ripred comes in. Gregor has more or less made up his mind about Ripred by the end of Curse of the Warmbloods. He wants to lead the Gnawers and will achieve that goal by any means necessary. Heā€™s an ally, but probably not a friend, grumpy and abrasive and untouchable. Definitely not worthy of sympathy, because he can take care of himself. In short, Gregor doesnā€™t see Ripred as a multidimensional person, as someone with emotions outside of anger and self-importance.
In direct opposition, we have Lizzie. Upon first glance, she might seem inconsequential until Code of Claw, because her character arc is quiet and mostly happens off-screen. Sheā€™s anxious about almost everything, and the Underland puts her through a lot of trauma in the earlier books without having ever set foot down there. It took her dad from her when she was only four years old, and when he returned years later, he was ill and severely traumatized. His absence and then his inability to work meant that she grew up in poverty, spending a large portion of her childhood food insecure and without a stable home life. Similarly, the Underland suddenly took Gregor, who by that point had undertaken a parental role in the household, and Boots away on more than one occasion. These traumas were then compounded on in Curse of the Warmbloods, first when her familyā€™s apartment was swarmed by rats and then when Grace, the stable parent and breadwinner, contracted the plague and was unable to return home.
Lizzieā€™s role in both Marks of Secret and Code of Claw directly opposes the effect that Gregorā€”and by direct extension, we as readersā€”expects this trauma to have on her. Lizzie is afraid of almost everything, and the Underland has harmed her directly in the past. She should approach it with fear, maybe even hostility, like Gregor does in portions of the book. Lizzie is not Gregor, though, and her key trait as a character is that she is able to see the world as a whole through different eyes. So she chooses kindness, instead.
This is where the excerpt above comes in. Lizzie has never met Ripred personally at this point, and she really only knows anything about him from Gregorā€™s storiesā€”which almost certainly donā€™t paint Ripred in the kindest light. Lizzie sees beyond the surface of these stories, though, and considers Ripred as an entire person, with depth and emotions. What she sees between the lines is up for individual interpretation. Maybe she latches onto Ripredā€™s insistence that Gregor learn echolocation, a skill that might save her brotherā€™s life. She does pester Gregor about practicing. Maybe she sees pieces of Gregor reflected in those stories about Ripred. A rager who doesnā€™t quite fit in where heā€™s from or where heā€™s fighting for, who can be stubborn and short-tempered and quick to hide his vulnerabilities from the people he considers himself responsible for. Maybe she sees pieces of herself reflected in those stories. Maybe, as someone who has lost pieces of her family, who has only one friend, who has likely eaten less than her share so that others could be full, she finds it easy to spot the humanity, for lack of a better word, in Ripred, like light through the crack under a locked door.
Whatever her reasonsā€”and maybe there are no reasons beyond ā€œheā€™s a person, tooā€ā€”Lizzie goes out of her way to treat Ripred with kindness before she ever meets him. She sends some of her own food with Gregor so that Ripred doesnā€™t have to go completely hungry. She makes sure Gregor knows to share that plate of oatmeal raisin cookies with Ripred. Where Gregor rarely shows any gratefulness for his help and, in fact, rarely views him through a lens unclouded by a deeply ingrained bias against Gnawers, Lizzie is kind. Ripred notices.
This is not a matter of Ripred suddenly opening up to Lizzie for little reason after bonding with Gregor across the entire series. Ripred treats Lizzie differently because she acted differently. Their relationship is not built only on Lizzieā€™s similarities to Silksharp, but on a history of compassion and respect. It isnā€™t shoehorned in, itā€™s a necessary relationship that supports the central themes of The Underland Chroniclesā€”violence, war, and colonialism are cyclical, but the refusal to continue living life based on the biases of the past can break that cycle and bring about a brighter future for everyone.
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ocular-intercourse Ā· 4 years ago
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@mangosandchili aand last but not least, I think, Gyo.
šŸŒ² What is the kindest thing your OC has ever done for someone? What is the kindest thing someone has ever done for them? On the flip side, what is the worst thing your OC has done to another person?
Mhmmmmm mhh I donā€™t think Gyo has ever EVER done something kind for somebody else for the sake of doing something kind for the other person, it has always just been collateral to him doing stuff for himself. So he saved those kids from slavery, but his impulse was less to save these children and more to preferably kill the slaver in some weird symbolical act of revenge. He might work for the empire and theoretically do a lot of good for them, but itā€™s more for the sake of his own pride, for the admiration of the people and the image he wants to present, than it is to do good for the empire and itā€™s people. He himself canā€™t classify if his dedicated protection of the prince is selfishness or devotion. He certainly does not lack kindness.. itā€™s just never without himself gaining something from it too. Ā I think it might actually be him saving those children and then continuing too visit them, teach the older one. He would not need to do that, and heā€™s mostly just doing it because he wishes someone had done the same for him when he was a child slave, but still, heā€™s setting these children up for a better life. The kindest thing someone has done for him, itā€™s probably a tie between his mentor freeing him from slavery and Priya staying by his side through everything. The worst thing is, uh, a question of definition, cause if the things are justified, in his eyes at least, are they really bad? I suppose killing his father and his first slave owner, quite slowly and brutally I might add, could be considered as the worst thing he has done to somebody else. They deserved it though.
šŸŒ³ What does your OC do when they see others upset or in pain? An upset friend? A stranger?
I have literally never thought about this and it is really interesting. Cause it is not like he lacks empathy, he is not cruel for no reason. If he sees someone suffer, he will more often than not help, as long as it does not interfere with his own motives in any way. Itā€™s his duty, in a way, keep people safe and all. Itā€™s just not his main motivator. Heā€™s not actually terrible at giving advise either, he has a pretty broad span of experiences, many of them unpleasant, he knows what suffering feels like, he has solutions for many things. He might not be super, uh, motherly about it, soft and cuddly, but he has compassion and he will help. But heā€™s also completely capable of turning around and killing the very same person he just helped if he had a good enough reason to. He has very clear priorities.
šŸŒæ What is something true about your OC that they refuse to admit about themselves? Is there any reason to this besides embarrassment?
Heā€™s just a big baby that wants to be loved. All of his actions are very much just results of him not having been loved as a child, as a teen, some years of his twenties, and heā€™s BITTER about it. Full on: If these things have been done to me I have all the right to do everything I want. I was hurt and it will not happen again and if I have to hurt every single other person in return for that to happen then thatā€™s how things will have to be. So he would admit that he is selfish now as a result of his pain, and that he has every right to be, but he would not admit that it is just because he isā€¦ well basically butthurt about his bad experiences. He wouldnā€™t admit it to others, not freely, because he considers it a character flaw he does not want to show. In his eyes it is best to not reveal your motivations, your way of thinking, cause it lays bare some vulnerabilities, attack points, to foes.
šŸƒ Describe a regular day for your OC. What is their schedule (if they have one). Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā 
Different days have different schedules, but parts of it are usually either being on body guard detail for the prince, following them like a shadow for whatever activities they have planned, sometimes traveling with them, or duties surrounding the army and his regiment. Training, inspecting, meetings with court officials, planning, reportsā€¦ Sometimes being sent on missions, since there is no war at the moment and fighting is rare, they are sometimes used to investigate rumors, crimes or otherwise volatile situations. Rarely there will be a monster sighting, and it is usually Gyo that is sent to deal with them, considering his power level.
šŸ What is your OCā€™s most traumatic experience? (If they donā€™t have just one traumatic experience either pick one or describe them all!)
Eehh I hate talking about this, his first slave owner was a pedophile that bought him from his parents so thereā€™s several levels of awful right there, the betrayal, the sexual abuse.. like I said Gyo had any reason to gut everybody involved once he had the power to do so. Other traumas come from his parents generally being abusive, starving him, locking him away, having him work all day, being a slave for most of his childhood and adolescent life, and later his mentor trying to kill him, the one person that had been nice to him turning around to be just another person wanting to hurt him.
šŸ„ How would your OC react to the death of a friend/family member/loved one? Is there anyone they can confide in?
Hm, heā€™d feel hurt, lonely, heā€™d consider it unfair, to have to experience something like this. He tries to prepare himself, for losing more of his loved ones, cause itā€™s inevitable. With him being immortal it seems like itā€™s happening much faster than in should, watching his son age, him being almost twice Gyoā€™s physical age by now. It makes him feel quite hopeless, but he forces himself to think about it, to prepare, so it wonā€™t destroy him as much when it happens. He would not readily confide in anybody. If someone came to him and asked him about it he would not hide his pain, but it would require considerable trust in the other person, say the prince for example, to get him to share honestly.
šŸŒ¾ What would your OC be like if they were evil. Or if theyā€™re already evil what would they be like as the good guy?
Heh. I donā€™t consider Gyo truly evil, I donā€™t consider him good either. Heā€™s whatever he currently needs to be. With his selfishness Iā€™d say heā€™s more on the bad side, it just happens to be that the things that benefit him currently are generally considered morally good things. Evil Gyo would be him, but him not being satisfied anymore just with other people not being able to hurt him, heā€™d develop hunger for more power, hunger for more control. Heā€™d try and gain more power, not just to be powerful and protect himself, but to actively use it on others. I see him overtaking the empire himself. Good Gyo would.. I donā€™t know, it would be him, but actually truly working on bettering everybodyā€™s lives, not just his own. It would also be him letting down his guards more, show more of his thoughts and feelings.
šŸ’ How would your OC react to somebody telling them that they love them? (+ bonus give another characters/OC name!)
Indifferent is probably the most accurate answer to most people. For the prince it would be quiet enjoyment, just pride in being the person that gets to be loved by them. For his son and sister it would be.. painful in a way. Good, definitely, but it would make him think of all the time they have been distant, and how much more they could have been together if heā€™d known that theyā€™d enjoy his presence, that things would work out. For his granddaughter it is actual laughing, picking her up and spinning in a circle kind of joy. I donā€™t know what it is about her, she has him wrapped around her finger, his pride and joy. Maybe because he sees so much of himself in her, but in a good way, while it is bad in him.
šŸŒ· What does your OC hate about themself? What lies about themself do they believe? On the flip side, What does your OC love about themself?
He does hate the bitterness. It is not a comfortable feeling to have. Wrath and revenge fuel him, they are literally the base of his power, his anchor, the thing that made it possible for him to generate so much power. Itā€™s no coincidence that his sword is known for itā€™s cruel owners, it was attracted by exactly this energy. And he does feel it gnaw away at his life and the connections he could have to other people if he didnā€™t choose to stay away for so many reasons. He just canā€™t help himself. He does not know how to heal these things that have happened to him, how to accept them, come to terms, and get over them. So he just hates instead, heā€™s angry and jealous and hurt. He does not want to be, but he canā€™t let go. I donā€™t know if he believes too many lies. Sometimes he wants to believe in the empire propaganda, the honorable savior they make him out to be, he wants to see what the prince sees when they look at him, he just canā€™t cause he is so aware of this darkness he hides so well, they all have no idea who he really is, no wonder they can see something good. I suppose one lie he tends to believe in is what he was led to believe as a child, that he is nothing past his usefulness to others, and even that is disposable. Something that makes healing for him so difficult is probably that some of these things he wishes he could let go off are things he also loves about himself. He loves the strength it gives him, the tenacity, he loves being ruthless, it makes it able for him to do things he needs to do without regret. He feels superior this way, most of the time. He is absolutely, entirely in love with his abilities and what they allow him to do.
šŸ„€ What is something your OC blames themselves for and is it really their fault? Does it keep them up at night and is there any lingering trauma?
I guess somewhere in a way he must have thought, at some point, that it was somehow his fault, that people always just wanted to use and hurt him. Most other people got away better, so itā€™s probably something about him.. He quickly managed to focus on blaming the perpetrators for what they have done to him, but sometimes he comes back to that thought, that it is in his nature, that he is inferior in some way, worthless maybe, that he did something wrong. His biggest regrets probably have to do with the relationship between him and his son. Itā€™s another habit he finds no way out of, he knows what he could have done better, he just hasnā€™t been able to get himself to do these things because of a whole plethora of insecurities he has about being a father and failing.
šŸŒŗ In what situation would your OC be pushed to commit an act of violence? Would they go as far to kill someone if they had to? How would this affect them and their relationships with others?
Heh, basically always, it does not take a lot, heā€™s always ready to kill if he has to, sometimes he enjoys it greatly. Itā€™s his job, so that works out. I think the prince will definitely always try, if they are there, to keep Gyo from killing if it is not necessary, and Gyo will comply, but heā€™d more often than not rather just kill. People like him for it more than hate him, he is their general, he keeps them safe. Violence, for the right reasons, is not a bad thing in the empire, culturally. Noor would try and change that, given the power. So thereā€™s a little conflict potential maybe, Noor coming to terms with how readily Gyo kills, not only when it is necessary. They have always seen him as the person who kills for the sake of the empire, only for important reasons, regrettably, but necessary. They would have trouble with learning that Gyo more often than not just does not care about the life he takes.
šŸŒø What would your OC do if they were given god-like powers or the ability to change anything about the world for a whole day?
Hmm, I donā€™t know, nothing, really, it would seem a little useless to him, a day is nothing. He would actually greatly enjoy seeing his wife again, just spending some time together. On a bad day he might chose to be able to enact all the revenge he ever wanted to (not that he does not get these chances either way). If heā€™s smart about it he might just try to learn things that will help him become more powerful.
šŸŒ¼ Describe one of your OCā€™s worst nightmares.
Noor dying. Failing to protect them. Seeing them die. Maybe having caused it somehow? Being exposed for who he really is on the inside, the people of the empire would quickly turn on him, consider him a monster. His son dying is on the list too, his son dying with hate for his father in his heart. Being powerless.
šŸŒ» What advice would your OC give to their younger self? What advice does your OC need now?
I.. I donā€™t know. The thought of Gyo meeting his younger self is very painful. Iā€™m not sure he could even look at himself, he just wants to forget about the person he was then, weak, used. Maybe heā€™d try and tell him about how to fight, how to get stronger, that he will get out of this and he will get better and he will be loved even. Now? Maybe that he could just be the person people think he is, he does not have to play this role, he could actually truly become this person. He would just have to let go of the bad things of his past.
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protezioni Ā· 5 years ago
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Hi Kana, do you mind doing all of them for Rika? :3
Sure Emi!! Will be glad to answer all of this!! Dont mind at all! ā™”ā™” It was really fun to answer because the questions are all interesting :00
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šŸŒ² What is the kindest thing your OC has ever done for someone? What is the kindest thing someone has ever done for them? On the flip side, what is the worst thing your OC has done to another person?
If it was a kindest thing she did for somone, I think it would be taking care of them--- so this mostly goes for her children figures. I think taking care of them and giving them the best she could is the kindest gesture she ever did. The kindest thing done to her is probably making her believe in herself because that's what she lacks a lot, and reassuring her that she has done enough or more than enough!
The worst thing she has done to someone would probably me murder, considering she takes someone's whole life away and not giving a chance for redemption.
šŸŒ³ What does your OC do when they see others upset or in pain? An upset friend? A stranger?
Her maternal instincts kick in. She tries to talk to them, but she will never force them to talk if they don't want to. She reminds them that she is there for them when they need someone to talk to, and she will definitely offer some hugs or little actions which may help. Those reactions are to her friends! To strangers, she usually tries to help in it by mere talking and trying to understand the person! She just never feels at ease when somebody is upset or in pain while she can't do anything IF the person isn't an enemy.
šŸŒæ What is something true about your OC that they refuse to admit about themselves? Is there any reason to this besides embarassment?
She refuses that she actually craves for things sometimes. She would always say she doesn't want anything but this could be a lie. She doesn't find it embarrassing, but instead, she finds it troublesome for the person who she would have said this too.
šŸƒ Describe a regular day for your OC. What is their schedule (if they have one).
She gets up early in the morning to have a shower then makes breakfast! After breakfast and a small break, she often goes exercise or train. After, she'd cook lunch then do her paperwork. She has a lot of them, and she does get some work of the rest of the leaders so they could have more free time. Then she cooks again, eats and then do something for fun, usually little activities or the famiglia. Sometimes she may do paperwork or train though! She would shower again and then sleep after!
If it's a weekend, she's more free! She mostly loves going out to the mall or go for a stroll! Or bond other people! (They bond a lot already but still) She also loves practicing the piano/ukulele too. And every Sunday, she actually goes to church!
šŸ‚ How does your OC think they will die? Does death scare them? Is there any reason for this?
She thinks she will die by a gun. She won't be surprised if she does. She only expects to die by the mafia hand. She would love to die by old age, but she can't see it happening. Death doesn't exactly scare her, but she does fear people dying around her. She fears more about how people may cope to her death, considering how close she is to several people.
šŸ What is your OCā€™s most traumatic experience? (If they donā€™t have just one traumatic experience either pick one or describe them all!)
I'll only pick one because a lot go on spoiler territory. The most traumatic experience that I can mention is when her father reminds her about all she could have been but failed to reach. That kind of words really affected her mentality, and that's why she grew up with that kind of thinking. She sometimes has dreams of it too, and his harsh words will stay there for a long time. She just knows it.
šŸ„ How would your OC react to the death of a friend/family member/loved one? Is there anyone they can confide in?
She would cry her heart out at first. She would end up not being able to hide it. She might end up in sleepless nights and it is easy to tell because her eyebags will be evident. However, after the initial sadness, she would choose to remain strong for them and realize that they wouldn't want her to remain like that forever. She ends up going through the 5 stages of grief sometimes actually, so there's that too.
Usually, she'd confide in Hiyaro. He's her big brother who's been with her for the longest time, so he knows how to handle her very well. Also Akira, because she trusts him that much and she feels free to show him majority of her feelings. Yuri and Ayame because she considers these two very close to her, and she feels they can handle it well. Shigure too, but she'd feel bad if they end up in a crying session together. Basically, the longer she's known you and if you are very close, the more likely she would confide with you.
šŸŒ¾ What would your OC be like if they were evil. Or if theyā€™re already evil what would they be like as the good guy?
An interesting question! I never really thought about this before. But if she were evil, I'd want to take the concept of a boss who prioritizes power and money more than her own famiglia. Probably be a murderer of the rich, but would never consider so much factors unlike her canon self.
šŸ’ How would your OC react to somebody telling them that they love them? (+ bonus give another characters/OC name!)
Well, if you're somebody she likes (Akira)- she would fluster red. She would be dying. She would wonder why they chose to love her. Like why her from all people? She wouldn't really know. She's going to end up frozen in place and take some time to process this. Probably mumble gibberish. To be honest, no matter who you are, she'll probably be silent for seconds to process it.
šŸŒ· What does your OC hate about themself? What lies about themself do they believe? On the flip side, What does your OC love about themself?
She hates the fact that she has a lot of doubt in her own abilities. These thoughts can really make her do worse than usual if it comes to mind in the wrong time. She also makes herself think a person may be lying if they do compliment her sometimes. She normally believes the lie of she can't do better than several people. However, if there is one thing she loves about herself, it would be how people feel like they can depend on her! She loves that she finds herself as someone who can be good for advice!
šŸŒ¹ Does your OC have any scars? How and when did they get them?
She does have scars! Majority of it came from a figure in the past, but some came from her father. They all came from childhood, and she is very concious about them. More will be revealed in the comic!
šŸ„€ What is something your OC blames themself for and is it really their fault? Does it keep them up at night and is there any lingering trauma?
One is a MAJOR spoiler so I have to pick another one. There is one spoiler, but I can discuss bits of it since it's not too major, but it's something to do with Ko. It's his current position and how she feels like because she convinced him to join, he's not able to bring out his potential and failed to reach what he truly wanted. Since she feels like his mother figure, it feels like she is a mother who is pulling her child away from their dreams for their selfish needs. It really is not her fault because it was his decision at the end (and he knew the ups and downs). It used to keep her up at night, but not anymore! Also there is no lingering trauma for this one.
šŸŒŗ In what situation would your OC be pushed to commit an act of violence? Would they go as far to kill someone if they had to? How would this affect them and their relationships with others?
The only thing that pushes her is when it is for the greater good + crimes that are too much to forgive in her eyes. But in a daily life basis, she would kick someone's ass or slap them across the face for any kind of harrassment to her or someone she is close to. For the first one I mentioned, yes. For the second one, no. But she will keep an eye on them. This doesn't affect her relationships in a negative way because she's in the mafia and well, it is normal. But sometimes, she does worry if she did the right thing. However with others, she usually earns respect when she does kill somebody. She would never kill for no reason, after all.
šŸŒø What would your OC do if they were given god-like powers or the ability to change anything about the world for a whole day?
She would definitely go for world peace. Having no crime or fights, and having everybody safe is something she would want. She wants the world to be a safer place, after all. Sad it's just for a day though.
šŸŒ¼ Describe one of your OCā€™s worst nightmares.
Seeing the people who are close to her dying because that's what she is trying to avoid most and if that happens, it just proves that her father was right about her being too weak. She wants to stop death in any way she can and she would prefer to die before anyone close to her does.
šŸŒ» What advice would your OC give to their younger self? What advice does your OC need now?
She would tell her younger self that she will get to find people who will love her, so she still has to stay strong even if she feels like that's something which is impossible. What she needs now is that she should know that she has done enough and she makes the people around her proud and they are happy to have her around. She would cry if you say that all in one go, honestly.
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Planet Positions, Ascendant, & Houses
The following table shows the position of the planets in your chart, by sign and degree. On the right, you will find the sign of your Ascendant and the signs on the cusp of each house in your natal chart. The Roman Numerals refer to the houses, where the Ascendant is also the first house and the Midheaven is also the tenth house. For example, if the sign Taurus is next to Mars, you know your Mars is in Taurus. If the sign Libra is next to Venus, you know your Venus is in Libra. If Cancer is next to Ascendant, you have a Cancer Ascendant, and if Leo is next to II, Leo is on your 2nd house.
Zodiac : TropicalPlacidus Orb : 0
Sun
Virgo6Ā°44' Ā Ascendant
Sagittarius7Ā°50'
Moon
Leo4Ā°39' Ā II
Capricorn3Ā°32'
Mercury
Virgo9Ā°36'R III
Capricorn28Ā°27'
Venus
Libra14Ā°45' Ā IV
Aquarius25Ā°50'
Mars
Scorpio9Ā°54' Ā V
Pisces27Ā°48'
Jupiter
Aquarius14Ā°28'R VI
Taurus3Ā°17'
Saturn
Aries19Ā°41'R VII
Gemini7Ā°50'
Uranus
Aquarius5Ā°32'R VIII
Cancer3Ā°32'
Neptune
Capricorn27Ā°36'R IX
Cancer28Ā°27'
Pluto
Sagittarius2Ā°56' Ā Midheaven
Leo25Ā°50'
Lilith
Virgo18Ā°10' Ā XI
Virgo27Ā°48'
Asc node
Virgo19Ā°40' Ā XII
Scorpio3Ā°17'
Aspects
The following table shows the planetary aspects in your natal chart. Short interpretations are found below.
PlanetAspectPlanetOrbOrb/Value
Sun
Conjunction
Mercury2Ā°52'770
Sun
Sextile
Mars3Ā°10'176
Sun
Square
Pluto3Ā°48'-40
Sun
Square
Ascendant1Ā°06'-82
Moon
Square
Mars5Ā°15'-28
Moon
Opposition
Uranus0Ā°53'-325
Moon
Opposition
Neptune7Ā°02'-48
Moon
Trine
Pluto1Ā°43'79
Moon
Trine
Ascendant3Ā°11'54
Mercury
Sextile
Mars0Ā°18'592
Mercury
Square
Ascendant1Ā°46'-85
Venus
Trine
Jupiter0Ā°17'173
Venus
Opposition
Saturn4Ā°56'-75
Mars
Square
Jupiter4Ā°34'-40
Mars
Square
Uranus4Ā°22'-55
Jupiter
Conjunction
Uranus8Ā°56'51
Uranus
Conjunction
Neptune7Ā°55'62
Uranus
Sextile
Pluto2Ā°36'58
Uranus
Sextile
Ascendant2Ā°18'49
Pluto
Conjunction
Ascendant4Ā°54'20
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Asteroids & Chiron
The following table shows the positions of the four major asteroids and Chiron. These points are not as commonly used by astrologers, but are presented here for those interested in knowing where the asteroids are positioned in their birth chart.
Chiron
Scorpio0Ā°30'
Ceres
Pisces7Ā°14'R
Pallas
Capricorn18Ā°49'R
Juno
Leo22Ā°06'
Vesta
Taurus5Ā°33'
Fortune
Scorpio5Ā°45'
South node
Pisces19Ā°40'
Natal Chart ReportBirth Chart
This birth chart report shows the positions of the planets for star .
The Sun represents vitality, a sense of individuality and outward-shining creative energy.
Sun in Virgo
It is rare to find the stereotypical nitpicky, exacting, "clean freak" in modern-day Virgos. Although the sign of Virgo has evolved with the times, there are some unmistakable traits that remain. Virgo people are generally respectable, hard-working individuals who have a love of knowledge and know-how.
Virgo's symbol, the Virgin, shows itself in the lives of Virgos through a love of all that is "natural" and a certain purity of spirit that keeps Virgos self-sufficient and self-contained, at least on the surface. Virgos are sensitive to their surroundings, and they tend to embarrass easily. They are generally reticent when faced with anything or anyone new. However, once they feel comfortable, they can talk up a storm. Many Virgo Suns are not too comfortable in the limelight. These types are just fine living in the background, as long as they feel useful and appreciated. Solar Virgos have a strong sense of responsibility. Even when they've convinced themselves to be irresponsible about something or the other, they worry about it.
Not all Virgos are workaholics. However, when Solar Virgos are not involved in some kind of project, there is generally a vague feeling of discontent. Even when their lives are filled up with work, they are restless and somewhat nervous creatures. The fear of under-performing is often strong. Virgos want to do things well. Some are exacting and thorough, and those Virgos who have convinced themselves to do a less-than-perfect job will generally feel incomplete. There's an odd combination of the intellectual and the practical in Virgo that is sometimes mistaken for coolness. In fact, Virgos are often self-effacing and shy. They'll brush off your compliments quickly and, sometimes, critically; but don't let that fool you. They need your respect and appreciation. In fact, the happiest Virgos are the ones who feel appreciated and useful. Add plenty of worthwhile projects to keep them busy, and Virgos can be some of the sweetest, kindest people around.
Keywords: analytical, intelligent, reserved, critical, helpful, conscientious.
Sun in X
The urge to work toward a goal, for success and accomplishment, and/or for power is part of your make-up. You are uncomfortable in any position in which you must "take orders" from someone else. Recognize your ambitions and your need for authority without going overboard. Seek out a career that allows you to manage, rather than be managed, if possible. It is crucial that you accept the part of you that is ambitious, but take pains not to over-identify with an image that is not really you! Successful career is guaranteed, but may sometimes come late.
770 Conjunction Sun - Mercury
Because your ego and your mind are aligned, you possess much mental energy. You are always in a position to think about what you want, and in many ways, this is an interruption of the will. You are highly intelligent with a great drive to communicate with other. You invest a lot of pride in your intellectual capacities. You may not always listen as well as you speak, however! You might be too busy thinking about what to say next. But you are very curious and although you enjoy expressing yourself, you usually don't dominate conversations completely. As far as studying or learning goes, you are better off reading the material than listening to a teacher. These traits come from a strong need to take an active role in communications. It is very hard for you to passively listen and absorb information.
Your opinions are usually strong and you are an independent thinker. You tend to be proud of your opinions and thoughts, and might easily get a bruised ego if you are not "heard", if your opinions are pushed aside or ignored, or if your opinions are criticized. You are expressive and possibly a very animated speaker. You are also very witty and others enjoy your playful and sometimes mischievous sense of humor.
176 Sextile Sun - Mars
You are enterprising and have powerful stores of energy that you can draw upon when needed. You respond to problems or challenges with a spirited and enthusiastic confidence that is admirable. You are naturally competitive, and this trait is generally well-received by others simply because it is unforced, unaffected, and sincere. You truly believe in fair play, and you seem to be in love with life. When you are expressing competitiveness and courage, it's easy for others to smile and accept these traits as positive ones rather than being rubbed the wrong way. You have good physical vitality. Although competitive, you are not naturally combative. You may enjoy sports or games that are competitive, but not violent. Breaking the rules of a competitive game is particularly upsetting to you. You are more able than most to control your desires, aggressions, and instincts. You know how to be fair, and you expect others to be fair. As such, sneaky behaviors, uncontrolled impulses, violence, and rage are offensive to you.
-40 Square Sun - Pluto
You may be prone to inner tension and negative, self-destructive behavior. When things are going well, you suffer from fears that something will come along to change that. Constantly worrying that the rug will be pulled from under your feet can easily become a self-fulfilling prophecy. You possess tremendous power and strength--when you learn to accept and use that strength, instead of fear it, you can be one of the most effective, insightful, helpful, and healing person around! At times, you can be intensely dissatisfied with your personal accomplishments and expressions of self. You put a lot of pressure on yourself regarding your own endeavors. You can be quite dissatisfied with your creative self-expressions, and want to hide your expressions from others until you feel the output is "right". This is largely due to a perceived inability to express or reveal your true personality to others. You struggle with a deep need to control yourself and life itself. You are especially sensitive to criticism, and feel the need to "redo" yourself often. There is a marked fear of losing control, and this might stem from some traumatic event in childhood, or the childhood might have been crisis-ridden or emotionally-charged in general. As such, you can be intensely fearful of, or threatened by, change. This can express itself through attempts to control your life in such a way that you can manage your fears of being taken off guard. Of course, this generally backfires! You have an intense need for privacy at times.
-82 Square Sun - Ascendant
She can face conflicts in life due to a projection of character that doesn't match what is on the inside. Misrepresentation of the self is frequent. She must strive to understand how others perceive her and work on presenting a more accurate persona to the world, or she will rub people the wrong way or feel unrecognized and misunderstood.
The Moon represents the emotional responses, unconscious pre-destination, and the self-image.
Moon in Leo
Depending on other positions in the chart, Moon in Leo people are not necessarily outgoing. When they feel comfortable, they do like being the center of attention. That is, they like being in the "spotlight" in the comfort of their own homes and with family and friends. They enjoy entertaining others, and often take on the role of comic. Lunar Leos often feel a need to organize, and even control, their families and friends. They have an inner mission to set things right, and generally like to oversee the goings-on in their little circle.
This is a rather creative position of the Moon. At the very least, Moon in Leo people want to create and entertain. They can be rather lazy at times, and a little bossy too. Generally, though, they have a deep need to treat others fairly and justly. Lunar Leos require lots and lots of love and care in order to function well in the world. When they feel slighted, these people can be dramatic in their emotional displays. When their pride has been hurt, they are given to big scenes and sulking. This rarely happens in public, however. Lunar Leos are far too concerned about their image to make splashy scenes outside the comfort of their own homes. In public, they prefer to take things in dignified ways. At home, however, they're given to big displays of emotional drama. These scenes generally don't last too long, however. Lunar Leos are often personally popular folk who are valued for their integrity and strong sense of justice. Generally, it is easy to reason with a Lunar Lion. Appealing to their well-developed sense of fairness usually works well.
Short description:
She is brave and knows how to take risks, has the courage of her convictions, is honest , imposing and sharp. She has a great sense of, and respect for, justice. Organizational sense. Selectivity in friends, but is not overly influenced by them. Taste for splendor.
Weaknesses: changing and numerous affections. Emotionally demanding and proud. Brooding when attention is not forthcoming.
Moon in IX
Highly imaginative. Prolonged studies, is intuitive. Professionally successful abroad, or in import-export or as a diplomat. Contact with foreigners. Long journeys. Ability to learn foreign languages.
This is a position that can indicate a deep longing for stimulation above and beyond the everyday, mundane routine. You are a philosophical sort, interested and curious about the world, other people, and perhaps different cultures. You can be extremely restless and discontented if you don't have a definite goal in mind. You might find yourself longing to be somewhere else when you are unhappy, imagining that if you were to move or travel, you would be much happier. However, this attitude can only keep you from enjoying and improving upon the situation you are now in, only serving to make you feel more unhappy in the present and with your current circumstances. Trying to avoid the attitude that "the grass is greener on the other side" will be important, while attending to your needs to get away from time to time will help scratch the seemingly incurable itch for something more.
-28 Square Moon - Mars
You can be precocious, animated, and passionate. You seek emotional excitement in your life. Although you often project a brave and tough image, your skin isn't as thick as you'd have others believe. You tend to put up defenses due to your emotionally vulnerable and excitable disposition. Unrest is characteristic, as you are bored by routine and become easily frustrated when life is "too easy". There's a buzz of energy surrounding you, and you tend to meet with many conflicts in your life. With the opposition, the conflict tends to be lived through relationships. The passions are quite raw, especially in youth.
If you can channel your excitable energy into sports or some other competitive field, all the better. Although you can be a decidedly amiable and interesting person, others always seem to sense your boundaries. Something is bound to get you worked up, and it's not always clear what that something will be. Your bluntness can be both appreciated and considered offensive, depending on your audience! You are eager to make a personal impact on those around you. It is possible that you are too eager in this sense, and you come across as self-absorbed and difficult to stomach. Patience is definitely not your strong point! Your responses are quick, and your are a passionate person who is usually quite courageous although your energy is sporadic and sometimes wasted. You are sexually responsive.
Short description: She is very emotional and is driven to do things by her emotions. She does not think things over or through in a given situation. She is irascible and easily angered or fired up. Marital disputes are very likely, and a heated domestic atmosphere.
-325 Opposition Moon - Uranus
She has a feverish, non-constructive restlessness. She is too susceptible. Her life is full of change. She is irritable and stubborn at times due to an inner restlessness that is hard to satisfy. She has difficulty concentrating on a job. Nervous strain. Her friendships are like her professional and love life - sometimes unstable. There is a strong need for closeness, but when people get too close, she gets cagey, as she values personal freedom just as much.
-48 Opposition Moon - Neptune
She lacks firmness, and can be a sucker for a sob story! She likes to live in a dream, in the world of imagination, and can hope so much that reality checks can be brutal.
79 Trine Moon - Pluto
She wavers between a rich and successful domestic life and social success. She has difficulty in succeeding in both. Very perceptive and given to psychoanalyzing people. A strategist. Powerful emotions and intense feelings.
54 Trine Moon - Ascendant
She has a good influence on the family, which loves and helps the person. She likes travelling, movement, change. She likes contact and is open to other people.
Mercury represents communication, Cartesian and logical spirit.
Mercury in Virgo
She discusses, deduces and judges. She reasons logically and accurately. She spends a lot of time on practical matters and keeping things in order. Sometimes nitpicky and nervous, secretly feeling she handles matters better than others.
Mercury in X
Her home and comfort are the only things important for her. She is intelligent and speaks easily and cogently. Easily keeps many irons in the fire and concludes her activities. Moves house a lot for business reasons.
You are good with language, and generally use this talent in your profession. You can have an authoritative air about you, or you are talented at communicating and negotiating with those in authority. You might have more than one job going at once much of the time, you could change your career directions frequently, or you could be attracted to jobs that keep you on the move. You require frequent changes of setting or activities in order to remain stimulated and challenged. You are skilled at bringing fresh energy to your conversations or to your job, perhaps because you need the stimulation.
592 Sextile Mercury - Mars
She likes to discuss, likes polemic. She has good judgment and is determined. She is a worker and has lots of energy. She has a lively intelligence and goes to the heart of things. She is enthusiastic, incisive, and energetic in thought and speech.
-85 Square Mercury - Ascendant
She may criticize and gossip, arguing frequently and ofen nervous. Without even realizing it, she might look for or instigate a verbal battle, and is provoking.
Communication is very important to you, and your mind is sharper and more creative when you have a partner you can bounce your thoughts and ideas off of. You are an excellent conversationalist and can fascinate your partners with your sharp mind. You love to debate issues just for the mental exercise, even if you don't feel strongly about the position you argue! You play devil's advocate often, and your ideal partner understands that your debates are, in fact, mental exercises--certainly not attacks! You are also prone to exaggerate or stretch the truth when trying to make your point, especially when it comes to your own background or experience.
In your close relationships, your partner serves as a mirror, reflecting your thoughts and ideas back to you from a different perspective. You are rather independent and will not allow anyone to restrict your freedom, but you love to talk things out before arriving at a decision. Truth is, you won't always take others' advice! However, you do enjoy looking at problems from all sorts of different perspectives. You may choose partners who are considerably younger than you, or who are not as academically smart as you. Conversations with you are always stimulating and lively. The ability to share your thoughts with a partner is vital to your sense of fulfillment in a close personal relationship.
\r\nVenus represents an interest for emotions and values, exchange and sharing with others.
Venus in Libra
Venus in Libra people will try to impress you with their kindness, evenhandedness, and willingness to make your relationship work. They have a polished manner in love, which sometimes makes them appear insincere or superficial. They are gentle lovers who hate to be offended. They are threatened by bad manners and direct or abrasive expression of feelings. They not only prefer to choose the middle road, they seek the middle ground in their relationships. You can expect to be treated fairly, and you may be turned on by Venus in Libra's willingness to concede and adjust their lives to fully accommodate you. Venus in Libra men and women have idealized images of their relationships, even to the point where the relationship becomes bigger than life, taking on a life of its own. They can become quietly resentful if they feel they are being taken advantage of -- and they make it easy for more aggressive types to bully them around.
Pleasing Venus in Libra involves treating them kindly and fairly. They love to share everything with you, so let them. Foreplay for them can be mental -- they love to communicate with you about the relationship. Sharing turns them on, and tactless or uncouth behavior is a turn-off. Although they seem to put up with a lot, be fair with them. Over time, imbalance in their relationship is sure to make them unhappy, and when it comes to this, they may try to even the score in subtle, roundabout ways. Don't let it come to that, and you will be rewarded with a lover who puts themselves in your shoes and treats you exactly how they would like to be treated.
Venus in XI
Successful professional life in great part due to good relationships, friends or patrons. She finds love in the circle of friends.
The friendship level of your relationship needs to be genuine in order for you to sustain romantic interest. You tend to focus on a person's unique qualities -- those traits that make him or her stand out -- as the most attractive. Your relationships must possess some kind of unconventional element in order to keep your interest levels high. Calves and ankles are either erogenous zones for you, or parts of your body that are particularly attractive! You may meet lovers through group activities. Although you value friendships and group affiliations highly, you might jump into friendships without considering the responsibilities they might entail.
173 Trine Venus - Jupiter
She is good-hearted, generous and has a good character. She likes well-being, comfort, a life without problems. She has good relations with her circle. She is easy to approach. All the same, she falls in love easily. She has a successful married and professional life.
-75 Opposition Venus - Saturn
This aspect sometimes means unhealthy sensuality. She is hard, and does not know how to express her emotions. She is frightened of showing her love, and this leads to disappointments, break-ups, lack of satisfaction. It is likely that she had problems with her mother, who did not know how to love her or give her self-confidence. She doubts, is suspicious and jealous. She will learn how to be happy in love, to be at ease with herself and to control her jealousy in the second half of her life, thanks to an older person, who gives her self-confidence back to her, so she can then trust others.
Mars represents the desire for action and physical energy.
Mars in Scorpio
Mars in Scorpio natives love to challenge themselves to do the impossible. They throw themselves into what they decide to do with concentrated energy and awesome willpower. These people make formidable opponents, although often quietly so. They keep their cool and their equilibrium on the surface. Below the surface may be another story, and they are unlikely to easily let you in. Mars in Scorpio has the potential to exploit others--these people see through others, and rely heavily on their gut feelings. The sexual stamina of this position is thought to be the strongest of all the positions of Mars. Sometimes, Mars in Scorpio people are attracted to taboos, and their fantasies may involve blowing the taboos to smithereens! They enjoy scenarios in which the "other" is giving in to them, wants them completely, and will do absolutely anything for them. And, their sexual appeal is strong enough that they generally do get what they want.
They find it difficult to share their partners, though they will likely never admit this. In stark contrast to Mars in Libra, who is most comfortable with the middle ground, Mars in Scorpio has a black-or-white philosophy of life. These are the people who say, "Just choose!" They really are not comfortable with compromise--what kind of satisfaction could you possibly get from compromise? Real living, to Mars in Scorpio, is all about accepting challenges and making changes. These people constantly test themselves, and, often, others. They make all kinds of rules and goals, just for the personal satisfaction that comes from achieving or mastering them. Their survival instincts are strong, and they embrace their own animal nature when they are all alone with themselves, without guilt.
These people have a provocative quality to them. This quality is usually most evident in youth, though it is often carried over into adulthood in more subtle, controlled ways. Mars in Scorpio natives who have low self-esteem can become mighty twisted. Instead of beating themselves up, they turn self-loathing outward, and end up manipulating others and feeling resentful. While Mars in Libra is constantly striving to bring fairness to the world, Mars in Scorpio knows that life simply isn't fair.
Mars in XII
All her energy is put into the work life. She loves research. She could be a lab worker, doctor, police officer, teacher specializing in hospital, prison or hospice work..
-40 Square Mars - Jupiter
She refuses to accept any guidance. She lacks forethought, acts impulsively and sometimes imprudently, which can cause problems. She wants everything yesterday and uses whatever means necessary to achieve her objectives, even if they are dishonest or not very commendable. Her emotional life is fraught with quarrels and sometimes violent conflicts.
-55 Square Mars - Uranus
She is full of contradictions. She is original, tending to the eccentric, violent, headstrong, impatient and irascible. She fights to the bitter end to overcome hurdles, and has the strength to overcome them.
Jupiter represents expansion and grace.
Jupiter in Aquarius
She attracts the most good fortune when she is tolerant and fair, inventive, impartial, and cooperative. Values people and personal freedom most. Wants to show unique perspective or skills. Open to new methods and progress. Great tolerance and humanitarianism.
Jupiter in III
She has good judgement, a sense of values, an open and optimistic mind, a good education and high moral standards. She likes studying. She is successful in communications work. Her professional work is a vocation and plays a great part in her life.
51 Conjunction Jupiter - Uranus
She knows what's going on at a glance. She thirsts after knowledge, and is a good organizer. She is very independent, likes her freedom of action, is a non-conformist. She is very agreeable company and is always in demand.
Saturn represents contraction and effort.
Saturn in Aries
Self-consciousness can be a problem. Must learn to develop self-confidence. Is bothered by a "me-first" attitude in others, but must learn that "me-first" is sometimes necessary, in moderation.
Saturn in V
She likes method, calculation, concentration. She is not drawn towards amusements, or pleasure in general. She has few friends, but has deep and sincere feelings. She is serious in everything.
Uranus represents individual liberty, egoistic liberty.
Uranus in Aquarius
Gets over-excited at the start of a task that interests her. Her debonair personality gives others a banal impression.
Uranus in III
She is curious and inventive. If she does not study for a long time, she will be self-taught. She is intelligent, with a strong personality. She does not like routine and will regularly go on mission for work purposes.
62 Conjunction Uranus - Neptune
58 Sextile Uranus - Pluto
She fights to improve her daily life, she is persevering.
49 Sextile Uranus - Ascendant
She is always changing, is unstable. She is ready to innovate, to change everything. She is inventive.
Neptune represents transcendental liberty, non-egoistic liberty.
Neptune in Capricorn
She is discerning, wise and sensible.
Neptune in II
She may prefer not to attach too much value to money, but if this is overdone, there can be quite a few problems in life concerning money and ownership. She might make money through artistic pursuits, but must avoid the potential pitfalls of putting too much faith in ideas that don't have enough grounding in reality. Financial advice is important to obtain.
Pluto represents transformations, mutations and elimination.
Pluto in Sagittarius
Great aspirations: sexuality and love are idealized.
20 Conjunction Pluto - Ascendant
She has will-power and ambition, and likes to have her own way.
House I is the area of self identity. The ascendant is a symbol of how one acts in life. It is the image of the personality as seen by others, and the attitude that one has towards life.
Ascendant in Sagittarius
The world is filled with adventure, new things to experience, and, most of all, hope, with this Ascendant. There is an unmistakable faith and enthusiasm with Sagittarius rising people. Grand schemes, big promises, and a willingness to explore and experiment are themes, although follow-through is not a strong characteristic of Sagittarius. These individuals are somewhat restless and often active people. They always seem to be looking for something that is just out of grasp -- and many do this their entire lives. They can be quite direct at times, yet they are likable enough to forgive for their faux-pas. Most have a lot to say and offer. Their insights and opinions are usually interesting and exciting, although sometimes lacking in details.
Sagittarius rising people have opinions about everything, and they just love telling others exactly what they are. Not all people with this position are outgoing folk, but they all have a way of moving about that at least exudes a certain level of confidence. Some might even call them naive or overly optimistic. Even the quiet ones don't shrink from life and from experience. One of the most obvious and endearing traits of Sagittarius rising is their willingness to keep up a sense of humor. Even when they're feeling low, they manage to find humor in life and have fun with whatever they do have. The placement of Sagittarius' ruling planet, Jupiter, will give more clues to how they go about expressing themselves. Jupiter in Capricorn, for example, might give a more sarcastic approach, but underneath there lies an unmistakable hope and spirit for living.
House II is the area of material security and values. It rules money and personal finances, sense of self-worth and basic values, personal possessions.
House II in Capricorn
A cautious approach to money and personal finances, possessions. Financial success may be slow but steady. A hard worker. Savings are important. Patience with accumulating. Money situation improves with maturity.
House III is the area of social and intellectual learning.
House III in Capricorn
Nothing is left to chance, everything is calculated, dissected slowly and methodically, twice rather than once, in peace and quiet by herself. She is introverted, and doesn't speak about her plans until they are underway.
House IV is the area of home, family, roots, and deep emotions/sense of self-worth.
House IV in Aquarius
She will leave the family home reasonably young. Likes liberty, wants a life that is out-of-the-ordinary, and certainly one that does not correspond with mum and dad's.
House V is the area of creative self-expression, romance, entertainment, children, and gambling.
House V in Pisces
With lofty feelings, she is full of tenderness, sentimentality. Things do not always go her way. A meeting with a person who is either not free, too young or from a different family or social background means that living together will be done in the utmost secrecy while waiting for the chance to legalize the situation quietly, without any trouble. This state of affairs will make her melancholy. A lovely little family will result from this union.
House VI is the area of learning by material transaction.
House VI in Taurus
Completely trusted at work. Knows how to keep a secret and is of irreproachable honesty. Weak point: the throat.
House VII is the area of one-to-one relationships such as marriage and partnership, and of social and intellectual action.
House VII in Gemini
Marries quite young, and divorces later. A second marriage doubtless with less passion but a lot of friendship. Frightened of living alone in old age.
House VIII is the area of emotional security and of security of the soul.
House VIII in Cancer
Small inheritances.
House IX is the area of learning that shapes the identity.
House IX in Cancer
Fertile imagination. She is easily influenced. Likes travel, especially cruises.
House X is the area of material action. The Mid-heaven represents the work one will do in his life, the place one will take in the world of society. It becomes more important as one grows older
House X in Leo
All the leadership qualities are there: authority, sense of organization, initiative, intelligence, but also thanks to outside help. She is a fighter.
House XI is the area of search for social and intellectual security.
House XI in Virgo
Friends must resemble her, anyone having different ideas or ways of doing things cannot be friends. Discussing ideas is not her cup of tea. Her knowledge is the result of study but also of the down-to-earth nature that characterizes her.
House XII is the area of education and of emotion.
House XII in Scorpio
Work in the police field, likes investigating other people's private lives.
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