#inspired by my thread w/ missa's carmilla bc like. it's so!! formative!!

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i was going crazy trying to figure out a quote that inspired a line i wrote for charlie & i FINALLY FOUND IT - the good place spoilers in this here link & good place spoilery discussion about charlie's life philosophy under the cut!

this post, these lines, these quotes

from the get go i thought the twist of hazbin was going to be that people DON'T get into heaven, ala the good place, & while i don't think that's quite the direction they're going to go, the themes are still so relevant. because post extermination battle, charlie is starting to see that it's not just about redemption - it's about making hell a place where her people - the ones who choose to stay, the ones who must stay - can still find love.

honestly, i think a lot of that is going to come from her relationship with angel - understanding how the circumstances, abuse, and neglect people experience creates a cycle of hurt that you can choose to break - but only with love and support. the point is, people improve when they get external love and support. how can we hold it against them, when they don't?

a really important part of charlie's characterization is that she loves hell, and i think it's in good, foil contrast with both of her parents. with lucifer, we see an undercurrent of resenting hell - in his depression, in his seeing the worst in humanity. in lilith, as briefly as she appears, seems to see hell more as a tool or seat of power.

for charlie? it's just home. she's just charlie. and she's realizing that her life is best spent being the love and support for others that they need to make their own choices - to find their own version of redemption.