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im out of my too depressed to draw with effort rut yay!! ^o^
#inking the comic like i can just draw??? lol???? wow#i also havent napped today :)#everyone clapped
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Inktober 2019 archive
Posting all my Inktober 2019 pics cause it was the only year where I successfully did a drawing for every day of the month. And also used actual ink for these which I know is not required but I wanted to. Most of these were never posted outside the "Rebel Taxi" Amino so I wanna document their existence and share them with the public. My gimmick with these was to do them in 5-15 minutes as a challenge to come up with ideas on the spot. And also so I wouldn't spend too much time on these since my college projects took priority. I also had my purple Halloween neon lights on when I took these pictures so that is why they're all purple (minus day 31's drawing). Anyway, here they are in order of the days I made them.
Day 1: a generic east coast rapper on the mic rocking a show. Mostly inspired by Chuck D of Public Enemy and maybe subconsciously Todd in the Shadows. Oh and totally forgot that I was watching Vin Diesel's 1997 feature directorial debut, Strays, before I drew this which had a very gritty 90s NYC setting. At the time I was very impressed by his short film directorial debut, Multi-Facial, so I wanted to see if his feature was just as good (it wasn't).
Day 2: a defeated young man submitting to an alien/holy light shining down upon him. You could also interpret it as seeking of a higher power. Inspired by the CD artwork of OutKast's ATLiens album. This was later turned into a self-portrait oil painting for class which turned out really great.
Day 3: vaguely retro comic book Batman crashing through a window upon a crime scene. This was done right before I went to see Joker in theaters. The perspective and anatomy is meh but it was a quick drawing so I can live with it. Apparently I took 20 minutes with it according to my notes from Discord in 2019 which wow.
Day 4: Close-up of Cesare from The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. This was one of two drawings where I intentionally broke my 5-15 minute rule as I did this in about an hour. I used a reference of the iconic scene of him waking up but I still tried to be quick so the face looks less like Conrad Veidt and more like David Bowie imo but I'm still quite proud of it.
Day 5: a possessed woman. Took a wee bit longer to do but this was a fun exercise to draw longer hair like this (something I still don't have a lot of experience with) and to play a bit with perspective and anatomy without a reference iirc. She is also supposed to vaguely be from an older era far from civilization - hence the lack of clothing (she is tastefully censored though). Apparently I wasn't happy with how stiff she turned out back then but I think in hindsight it works quite well.
Day 6: a bald child from a mental ward stares at a man laying face down on a haystack. The girl was loosely based off Eleven from Stranger Things. The man in the haystack also reminds me of that one Junji Ito manga but I don't remember if that thought that came to me while making this or that's just hindsight. Also I didn't start with a finished concept in mind for this one so, very randomly put together.
Day 7: Nostalgia Critic 2Pac. As it says, it's Doug Walker if he modeled his Nostalgia Critic character after 2Pac's aesthetic. I personally really like this one. Have also been told he resembles a Beavis and Butt-head character which I see lol but that's ok. Apparently I was watching JAR Media's video on if Nostalgia Critic was cringy and for some fucking reason the idea of 2Pac came to mind lol.
Day 8: a baby with a dripping spear celebrating the head of a medium sized therapod dinosaur they successfully hunted. This one was inspired by Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal which I was a very big fan of at the time. Censored cause I like my Tumblr account and don't wanna risk losing it.
Day 9: Count Orlok from Nosferatu opening a door. I think it turned out nicely but don't really have much else to say about it other than the fact that I didn't use a reference.
Day 10: sullen twink laying bare on the ground. This was inspired by that iconic image of Maria from Silent Hill 2 laying down on the ground by the Heaven's Night neon sign. I think I just particularly like this kind of imagery since a mood piece I shot later that month incorporated a shot that is exactly like this (minus the lack of clothing). Also, the uncensored drawing actually shows nothing explicit since I intentionally had that area covered in shadows. But I worry Tumblr will think otherwise and smite down upon me so it's better to be safe than sorry. Also the perspective on his right leg is off so better to not see it in full anyway.
Day 11: gentleman combing his hair in a mirror that reveals a skeleton doing the same thing. The pic crops off the bottom part of the drawing which shows his legs and the tail flaps of his suit. But I always thought that part looked extra janky so I never include it. It was a rushed drawing anyway.
Day 12: Tim Burton inspired child sitting in the corner of a room, looking very sad. Supposed to represent being overwhelmed with life and emotions. I recall I also had Dib from Invader Zim in mind when drawing this. I don't tend to draw in this art style much so I'm pretty surprised even now how good it turned out. At the time I was doing a presentation for my Directing class on Tim Burton - so he was definitely on my mind for this.
Day 13: imprisoned droid waking up in the middle of the night. Apparently I was thinking of a bunch of movies when I did this plus I think Scud: The Disposable Assassin and my own avatar. Also I just like robots with this kind of thin pill shaped build.
Day 14: my idea of man that has fully evolved into only being able to eat, sleep, and stare at a screen. I didn't sleep the night before so I thought to draw a human that has devolved into a lazy slob who only eats and sleeps and as a result is incredibly out of shape save its legs to move around as it scours the land for any food before deciding to fall asleep for days. Thank you Discord notes from myself in 2019 for helping me remember this exact story lol.
Day 15: Undead Pan Pizza of RebelTaxi singing his pathetic little heart out. The design is based off of Jack Skellington (namely the proportions and spooky qualities like the stitches across Pan's face) during one of his more sad song numbers in The Nightmare Before Christmas. It's worth noting this era was sorta the last big hoorah for my obsession and fanboyism of Pan. I had a mild burst of being hooked one last time around Fall 2019 after losing interest in his podcast around the beginning of that year (a podcast I previously would follow religiously). I still liked him after this era and would definitely have periods of renewed interest but not to the same extent as before sadly.
Day 16: an imprisoned boy looking at the light coming through his barred window. This one used more pencil than ink to break away from mostly keeping it ink. It's very janky but the idea speaks to me. Apparently was also trying to think of a portrait for my oil painting class so this was one of the ideas that came to mind (didn't end up using it for anything though).
Day 17: a spooky little sickly old guy. I apparently was inspired by a character from Courage the Cowardly Dog when I did this. No clue which episode now though unless you guys can remember what he looks like.
Day 18: guy getting his face vacuumed off. I like that one episode of Ed, Edd n Eddy where Eddy's face get sucked by a vacuum. I got nothing else to say.
Day 19: self-portrait of me directing. It's a cutesy little drawing of me! And also the outfit I wore when I directed my mood piece that day.
Day 20: a large and vicious snake lizard hybrid. It's pretty self-explanatory. I think ultimately it's more just a snake with forearms and a spike tail. I guess I just was thinking at the time "what would be the ultimate snake?" Like a snake that can beat any snake. Also this was done on day 21 since I didn't have time on day 20 for it.
Day 21: large older guy hiding a knife behind his back. His looked is based on a friend of mine I went to college with and how he looked on set a few days ago when the light glistened over him. Although instead of a knife he held a script. He also vaguely reminds me of Al from Toy Story 2.
Day 22: sleep paralysis demon taunts twink. I like twinks, ok. Also I think just noticed something about that demon that I forgot I did but oh well. I think it'll be fine.
Day 23: guy with a very, very itchy head. I really like the pose and facial expression so it's actually one of my favorites here despite it being relatively mundane. Also, the itchy head may have been cause my head was itchy while drawing this but I don't remember. But I do remember part of the influence here was how sometimes great feelings of stress and anger would trigger an itchy head for me.
Day 24: a corpse brought back to life in a very rough and unfinished form. Obviously a bit of a Frankenstein's monster meets I guess Sally and Dr. Finkelstein from The Nightmare Before Christmas influence here. I may have had Pearl from Steven Universe in mind when I did this too since me and another friend definitely saw the resemblance.
Day 25: a twink who hit their face a little too hard on the bathroom sink. Twink. The full picture isn't really that gruesome imo (the face isn't visible) but I was trying to censor the liquids a bit for obvious reasons I already disclosed earlier. Also, he was loosely based on me but don't think too hard about that. I just had a bad day directing on set was all.
Day 26: Cute, unamused Hot Topic employee being bitten on the left leg by his pet lizard. Yet again another twink but this one's outfit is based mostly on my wardrobe at the time (minus the Jack Skellington shirt but I did/do have some pajama pants of him). And I guess I find reptiles cool so, only just noticing a bit of a reoccurring subject here (along with twinks).
Day 27: a melting zombie-like corpse crawling away from a puddle of acid. A tad more gruesome, sure, but I think it's a pretty cool drawing. And also it's like, a zombie, so it's not that inappropriate for standards here I hope. Apparently took a while to come up with an idea for this one.
Day 28: that one guy from Jacob's Ladder with a bag over his head and no legs walking with his arms. When I drew this, I had just seen Jacob's Ladder the night before for the first time and it became an instant favorite of mine. So, I drew a character from it. Him walking with his arms is based off of Mugshot's mode of travel from Sly Cooper.
Day 29: Jimi Hendrix inspired voodoo guy with a crystal ball. Pretty self-explanatory. Had fun with the texture and lighting although I was never quite satisfied with how I did the shading on his hair. The straight lines make his fro look like a porcupine lol. Regardless of that, it's a pretty cool drawing. Also worth noting is that during this time I fell back in love with 60s music. The Doors and Beatles in particular were major points of obsession for me. Especially their psychedelic period and ofc Jimi Hendrix was part of that era so that deep fixation for psychedelic and hippie music made its way into this.
Day 30: lizard amphibian fish mishmash girl with pony tails happily waving at us. This was definitely my least favorite of these and if not for my next and final drawing, would've been a lackluster way to end this. It's not awful but eh, just never really personally resonated with me. Also, she is wearing a seaweed braw so don't panic moral guardians of the world. For some reason Mrs. Bighead from Rocko's Modern Life came to mind when I drew this. Along with a certain friend of mind, @fishboigazer-blog, (which if you or a mutual is reading this lol hey).
And that's it for now since I can't fit more than 30 pics. Which is fine by me cause Day 31 deserves its own post since that one I did spend a few hours on as opposed to the rest of these. That one I also did actually post to Tumblr back in the day so I may just reblog it come Halloween.
If you actually read this far, thank you! I spent hours trying to put this together in a way that is satisfactory to me and hopefully gives plenty of insight into my process. This has been a very long time coming and hope to actually post more original stuff on here instead of just endlessly reblogging things.
#inktober#inktober 2019#the cabinet of dr. caligari#rebeltaxi#nostalgia critic#nosferatu#jacob's ladder#cesare the somnambulist#fan art#sketches#AlexTheMenace art
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June 13th-June 19th, 2020 Creator Babble Archive
The archive for the Creator Babble chat that occurred from June 13th, 2020 to June 19th, 2020. The chat focused on the following question:
What is your physical and digital workspace like when you’re working on your story?
🌈ERROR404 🌈
LOL it really depends on what stage I'm in of the process - My storyboarding space is at home, as comfortable as I can be, a beer and some food at the ready and pure silence. The cats have to be freshly fed, otherwise I'll be harassed and lose my headspace entirely LOL. I usually work on my story boards digitally, just at a very small scale, with my script/outline on my computer and working on my ipad! The double screen helps a LOT, although i would just print out the script if I had access to a printer, haha. When I'm working on the actual page itself, it's a very different story. I usually just try and work on it in tiny little batches during the day when I'm stuck at home, and usually work around the animals as best i can, lmao. Truthfully, I really prefer to be in a coffee shop when I'm working on finishing pages, it makes me so much more productive than i am in this house with so many things to take care of right in front of me, but, obviously, that's a bit difficult to do these days. ;; I usually reserve food and drink until after I pass a milestone in inking/sketching to help motivate me to keep going for as much as I can before taking a break, and I need some kind of music or video playing in the background to keep myself from being absolutely bored out of my mind. My shading process, since it's in black and white, is very easy and i can finish it in one setting, easy, no matter what I'm working with. I also work digitally for my pages, of course, although I don't need more than my ipad and clip studio for it!
DaeofthePast
freshly fed cats
🌈ERROR404 🌈
They are BEASTS when hungry, the little bastards (love them)
I may only work in peace when they're post-food napping lmao
DaeofthePast
we only have one, but same
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
I work almost entirely in the corner of my IKEA couch at home I used to work at a proper desk with a Cintiq, but when I switched to Procreate on an iPad, I migrated to the couch and surrounded myself with a nest of clothes and blankets and books and... here I am, bein' cozy. With terrible posture But when I was between jobs last year, I did rent a little coworking space down the street so I could get out of my pajamas and go get comic stuff done there. It was a godsend. I like drawing at my favorite coffee shop every so often too, but I tend to hide my work while I draw, and there, everyone can look over my shoulder The coworking space had a tall artist desk that was rarely used, so I often grabbed that one. Not cheap, but to stave off cabin fever, heck yes, worth it.
🌈ERROR404 🌈
Ahhh I've been really thinking about getting a studio space one of these days I really shouldn't rn, with my finances as they are, but I could REALLY make use of one recently
LadyLazuli (Phantomarine)
I loved the space I used last year. They recently had to close for... current-event reasons... and are going to reopen with all sorts of plexiglass barriers between the desks I feel so bad for them. Good studio spaces are wonderful, I would support them again if I ever was out of a job!
🌈ERROR404 🌈
it's good they've found ways to make it safer, though!
carcarchu
My old workspace was in the basement of my home in canada and it was always perpetually freezing even in the summer and i was frequently visited by spiders so my current workspace is a huge improvement in that regard. I do miss my old ergonomic desk chair though. I'm definitely not the kind of person who can draw in bed or on the couch. I need to be in workmode and having a designated space just for that is necessary for me to get in the right headspace for that.
DaeofthePast
my workspace rn is just my desk with my laptop and my drawing tablet. my laptop is stacked on top of a pile of books so i can see the screen (otherwise my tablet blocks my line of sight). it's kinda simple
chalcara [Nyx+Nyssa]
Depends. I have a Cintiq Mobile Studio, so I can draw pretty much every where and sometimes in the oddest position, but most of the time I am on my desk with the cintiq hooked up to a second monitor so I don't have to look down so much.(edited)
Holmeaa - working on WAYFINDERS
For Wayfinders: Thumbnails are somewhere cozy and the only physical work. Me and Q sit and plan them out together. The rest of wayfinders are made on Photoshop, and flat colors in clip paint studio. In the world I would love a nice studio place in an office with others. During corentine I have been working from home, and I am not that good at it, being quite the extrovert. Before corentine I was in a artist residency where I worked on Wayfinders which had a workstation and all the programs we could need. It is so nice and me and Q are going to return there when it opens up again!
Miranda
I have an iPad so usually on the couch, cozied up with coffee and pillows and blankets. But sometimes at the table. But usually on the couch like the gremlin I am
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
I have a large drafting table, a mini drafting table, and a lapdesk in my papasan when we ink/draw! Toning and letters are all done on the desktop in its own space
Miranda
I need to get a good lap desk. But that sounds like a grand setup!
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
My first time hearing about a lapdesk
Omg I need one
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
They are the best things ever Mine has just the pencil holder !(some come with cup holders and its a waste of space imo)
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
Wow I like your setup of the drafting tables
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
I wanna show pics of them....if im allowed in this chat?
Joichi [Hybrid Dolls]
I hope so, I'm not sure which channel we can post studio photos at? I did see some did before?
FeatherNotes(Krispy)
Ill post in shop talk since creator babble gets archived
Tuyetnhi (Only In Your Dreams!)
my current space is uh.... a bit better than my last one. I used to work on an old writers desk for a decade and I did most of my comic work sitting there cramped up with my desktop taking most of the space. Now I have an L shaped desk where I have my desktop on the shorter end. The longer end it's my pen, pencils, and watercolor stuff. my display tablet occupy the space at times so switching from digital and traditional without worrying about setup hassle is a lot better than what I dealt with before lol.
I'm glad the days I had to curl up and draw with no privacy are long gone now
kayotics
I’ve got a little drafting table where I draw all my comic pages. I’m messy with my pens so they’re kind of strewn about until I start to lose them. Then I put them back. I’m not particularly neat. I spend most of the comic process off the computer, so most of my digital work is just on an iPad where I can sit anywhere. I try to keep good lighting around my drafting table and there’s always loose eraser shavings all over.
Natasha Berlin (Pot of Gold)
I got myself a lil corner desk by the dining table. Not as well-lit as I'd like, but it's decently ergonomic and I started putting posters on my wall Plus I can leave work mindset easily by turning off my computer and forgetting about the dark corner in the dining room XD(edited)
sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)
My desk is really sloppy and covered in all kinds of junk. I have a harmonica, a ball of yarn, a bunch of ink bottles, etc on my desk. I have my sketchbook under my tablet and usually a notebook somewhere for writing. My tablet sits to the right of my laptop (on top of sketchbook) while I'm not using it and when I'm using it it goes over my computer keyboard. I sometimes have a glass of water or some food sitting to the lefthand side
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
The only thing I wanna share about my workspace is this
once i spent over three hours looking for that damned pen
never again
🌈ERROR404 🌈
Ajkdhfkjs the models for hte magazine im crying
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh my God
shadowhood (SunnyxRain)
mad giggling
Deo101 [Millennium]
youre gonna manage to lose the string
Tuyetnhi (Only In Your Dreams!)
omg
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
i know in my heart deo is right but still i hope
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
You should weld a metal chain to it
Eightfish (Puppeteer)
Watch me lose the whole tablet
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh nooo
I believe in you!
TaliePlume
My workspace is a black table with a white, yellow, blue and green tablecloth with 3 black chairs. It's next to the kitchen. On it, is my laptop and the left side is my clipboard, 3 blue folders full of writing. Then above it, is 3 sketchbooks and another blue folder from a class that I took in community college.
June 16, 2020
sagaholmgaard
I have one long desk at almost three meters. On the left side is all my coffee and tea supplies, in the middle is my work space and on the right is my dining table xD I get everything done from there, despite having a mobilestudio so I COULD sit anywhere and work, lol. It's a blessing during holiday seasons to be able to bring it everywhere, but at some I like my designated working space. Although I am moving in a few weeks, so who knows what my new workspace will be
Moral_Gutpunch
My workspace is anywhere I can draw or write. It's more of a "Will I be interrupted over something petty or stupid" issue than space. Not that I don't want more space.
Mitzi (Trophallaxis)
My workspace is a big, broken corner desk I managed to lug out of an old apartment when it was gonna be trashed. Before then, I'd just draw in bed. I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure the folding chair I sit at is a similar affair. It's got a Dollar General throw pillow on it so I can at least say I'm trying to save my back. The top of the desk is a mess of mostly old bottles and cans, pencils, incense ash, and my old tarot deck. I love this setup dearly. This is the first time I've ever had my own desk space, much less a space I can decorate or leave as messy as I want. Got my own art up on the walls with sticky tack and all! Also the cat's scratching post is directly behind me, because we've learned the cat won't use it unless it's as in the way as possible. What can ya do, lol.
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
Oh cats...
Desnik
I got spoiled with an adjustable desk. It is six feet long, and has a whiteboard top for noodling with dry erase markers
my main computer is set up on an adjustable stand so it floats over the desk, and then I have my cintiq, which we tried to mount on a similar stand but then it was just too heavy
I keep my dice collection nearby because fidgeting helps think things through sometimes
and rolling to make odd decisions never hurts
lately during the quarantine I've been sharing the office with my spouse so we've had to establish rules over when it's okay to bug each other(edited)
oh yeah and we also have a whiteboard installed in the office, and it rules!(edited)
Shizamura 🌟 O Sarilho
Mine is pretty simple: I have a laptop that's long stopped being portable and is now mostly just sitting at my desk at all times and a 19 inch Ugee as my display. I usually keep a lot of stuff on top of my desk, but it's mostly just a mess because I have been using it for work too for a while now
Cronaj (Whispers of the Past)
I suppose I'll talk about my setup too :) My main setup is where I do digital art. I share an office with my SO, so we both have workspaces on opposite walls from each other. I work on a corner desk that holds my beefy computer, two monitors, and a Huion Kamvas GT-191. That's where I draw my comic and pretty much everything else done digitally. Ngl, it's a mess right now. I have comic notes and location floor plans in sketchbooks and DnD character sheets spread out all over the surface, and random pens and sticky notes. In the corner of the room, we have a nice large-format printer where I produce prints for conventions. I actually sketch my pages on an iPad pro in Procreate, so during the sketch phase, sometimes I'll just bundle up on my couch and do it, or before quarantine, sometimes I'd sketch on the go. My other workspace (which hasn't gotten much love as of late tbh) is a drafting table in the corner of our living room. I keep a tabletop easel on it and my Copic markers, as well as whatever I'm working on at the moment. (RN it's some ink washes.) The drawers hold all my ink, pencils, erasers, etc. Next to the drafting table is where I keep all my large charcoal, graphite, and oil pastel drawings (mostly school projects), and my large paintings. Other than that, I have a nifty little cart where I keep painting supplies :) I will say, this setup is by far an enormous improvement from my previous setups.
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Hi Nikki! Just wondering, what are your favourite tinf pages you've drawn so far?
Hi anon! WOW I love this question, thank you!! I never thought about it before… usually I very rarely like a TINF page because there’s at least 1 panel I don’t like that I’ve drawn 😂
Here’s what I came up with, though, in date/page order, underneath a read more:
ch 01 pg 01 - SO CLICHE I KNOW, THE 1ST PG 😂😂😂!! I actually do love this, though, I love his “screeee” and “pt pt pt pt,” if I have to describe the feeling of Julian in one page, it’s definitely this one LOL. When I first started TINF, I had a lot of people disliking my style and I think it scared me into becoming less cartoon-y/exaggerated over time (even by the end of the chapter), and that’s something I regret and had to work really hard on getting over. Outside of TINF, I feel like I’m reverting back to cartoon-y a bit (which I like), but I wish I exaggerated more in TINF… this 1st page shows when I was wild and free and I like that 😂
ch 07 pg 05 - the 3 middle panels are MY FAVORITE!!! I absolutely LOVE the joke of just blowing up an image to “zoom in” for a panel, just slightly making it lower quality, and then Julian in the pink panel…………. my sweet boy… I LOVE HIM he’s so cute, so earnest TT____TT))) I also love Landon laying on the ground + on Isaiah 😂 also wow that last panel dialogue.. don’t hurt me, Landon *upset thinking in contrast to recent pages*.. LOL
ch 10 pg 12 - this is the only good art I’ve ever drawn
ch 11 extra 02 - this page is on like every “favorites” list I’ve made but LISTEN!! I LOVE IT LOLOL I LOVE Julian’s handwriting + how he writes + all his diff papers + “pen running out of ink” TCH Past-Nicole… she really knew how to make Julian SO cute LOLOL I mean, I still do LOL *Julian stan*
ch 14 pg 15 - after 7+ yrs, jokes in TINF rarely remain funny, but this. This is gold……… gatsby 👁️👄👁️ what the hell
ch 15 cover - LANDON KISSED HIM ON THE CHEEK WHAT?????? I’M STILL LIKE??? PAST-NICOLE, PLS LOLOL I love this little “story” if you read from top-to-bottom, left-to-right! Esp the 2nd to last… Julian LOLOL goodness gracious, kid. Also I love the red shirt I used in this !!!
ch 18 pg 08 - that’s cute..
ch 19 pg 09 - this pg is cute LOL I’m good at drawing cars for some reason, like, seriously, the last panel I got ambitious and Isaiah opening the door for Selby is 👌👌👌 but the real star is the inside of the car door, like… calm down, Nicole, we get it, you draw cars better than people
ch 22 pg 01 - this chapter is randomly drawn so good IMO and idk why but it’s my favorite (drawing-wise)???? ig I was ~in the mood to draw~ LOL I like the wave of blanket in panel 2 and my sleepy babu in panel 3 😂
also can we just acknowledge how much I jam into 1 page of TINF??? Waking up / Julian’s not as excited as he used to be for Sydney Morgan / he’s troubled / hints that it directly correlates with Landon since he’s looking over at Landon’s house in the last panel like !!! I work hard for this biweekly comic LOL
ch 22 pg 08 - so much movement in this pg!! I luv!! I have too many ~important convos~ currently in TINF, which makes sense since I’m gearing towards the end, but I definitely miss them running around wildly like this LOL
There’s a bunch I like from this chapter but I won’t post them here bc 😴, but if you’re curious, they’re pages: 12, 13, 22, 23 !! Congrats, ch 22, I like u 👏👏👏🎉
ch 23 cover - I love my long boy, he’s so cute TT____TT))) even tho I think he’s a jerk and I’m mad at him LOLOL wow I’m really layin’ it w/the feelings in this list aren’t I LOL idk who’s reading this *continues*
ch 23 pg 34 - I’m unsure what I like more, angsty Landon or my background characters 😂
I also really like the next page (35) but idk if it’s like a “favorite”…
ch 23 pg 59 - listen…………… I’M A SIMPLE GIRL, ANON
ch 24 pg 09 - idk I just like it LOL *push* *stop* *push* Bye + Isaiah’s pants look cute 😂
ch 24 pg 19 - Landon’s handwriting / Isaiah and Selby flirting playing / out in the city ??? Feels different, I like it LOL but the true winners of this art are the 2 dogs in panel 2
ch 24 pg 48 / 49 / 50 - describing lanjuls in 1 pg / 🍓 soft 🍓 / I SHIP THEM LMAO SHRIEKS
ch 25 pg 34 - HOLD HIM !!!!!!! I brought these feelings on myself
ch 25 pg 37 - I think I set this page up pretty good and I really like how it reads!!! I effectively break my own heart. Nice
ch 25 pg 42 - Dear Past-Nicole, thanks. I hate it. I spent 90000000 hrs on panel 3 Landon’s expression tho and I BELIEVE I GOT IT! So, it makes the list LOL
ch 26 pg 01 - I’M BASIC OOOOOK LOLOLOLOL LET ME LIVE!!!! I scream for 90 yrs
THAT’S IT! WE’RE DONE HERE!!! I feel like my “favorites” are weird, I have some page compositions I enjoy more since they’re more creative, but in the end there are just some drawings/feelings I like better in these pages.
Thank you so much for asking this question, I had fun looking back at older pages!! 💕
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I KNOW ITS BEEN LIKE 300 YEARS BUT-
5 things you’ll find in my bag
Right now theres uhh Notebooks, both school and 1 art. Drink mix ins, with such great flavors as sour apple jolly rancher and crush pineapple (tm) Two packs of cards, one of which steam punk themed and the other your regular ol bicycle. A calculator. Its a shitty old one but its for tests, i have google and shit for anything i need myself.
5 things you’ll find in my bedroom
A roommate. Idk if he is gay or what but he isnt straight, name’s will. Chill dude. Sleepin rn, what a fella MY SICK ASS COMPUTER IM MISSING OUT ON BECAUSE MY ROOMMATE IS ASLEEP AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANNA PLAY ROCKET LEAGUE WITHOUT LAGGING TO HELL also programming my mods. Need to upload that shit. Shit what number we on, 3? Okay cool. A bed. Wow really a bed in your bedrooM? yeah its pretty fuckin spectacular i know. I dont have posters n shit so like i gotta be creative you feel. A microfridge. Now i know what youre thinking, “ah a small fridge whats the big deal?” but no you dont understand, its a microwave fucking bolted onto the top of a fridge. They gave zero fucks attaching these two together and apparently the name is the same way, WHY NOT A FRIDGEWAVE EVEN LIKE MICROFRIDGE JUST SOUNDS LIKE A SMALL FRI- Last but not least, im tempted to just say my wallet here tbh, cuz its old but like, youd EXPECT that now would you? Something boring and mundane for me to fill out the word count with making everything super exciting so nah man, fuck it. Theres air in my bedroom. Fight me.
5 things I’ve always wanted to do in my life
Make a videogame. Like okay, a lot of stuff on this list is jokes and stuff, and I know im going into too much detail and my followers will probably murder me in cold blood for this shit, but im serious about this one like - i have some ideas, but i never have the motivation alone to like work whole-heartedly and finish one but like, at some point in the future id love to sit down and just go at it and make a game. Doesnt matter if its popular or big or small just i wanna make something that i love ya feel? I wanna like, go to newark, delaware. I know, its delaware and all, no one lives there, but ive met a bunch of cool people there and i was promised a donut run sometime, so lookin forward to that. Yknow that post awhile back that was like “i dont wanna be rich and like buy shit, i just wanna have enough money to throw at kickstarters whenever i want without having to strain on my food and rent costs” thats me. 100% Like i wanna have just enough money to be able to donate to cool people and watch them do cool shit - it wont always work out but thats fine, I just love shit. I wanna be able to donate like the high prize and fly out to meet these game studios for coffee and shit and just talk with em and see their passion and ideas. I love it. Im not actually really sure besides those. Like idk. I think itd be cool to enter a game tournament with my brother and win, but i doubt thatll happen and its not super like on my desires just itd be cool cuz we named ourselves Sora and Shiro after NGNL and to see that like, have us win would be great. Yeah. Ill make my fifth to think of a fifth one.
5 things on my to do list
FLOPPY DICKS i mean disks. Floppy disks. I do binding of isaac ab+ modding shit, and im currently working (its mostly done for what i want it to do) which adds a new consumable called floppy disks, effects are based on viruses, bugs, and just computer based shit. Like BSOD for instance, which makes the screen literately bluescreen. Or atleast look like it. Cant wait to watch people play with it. I gotta work on the programming class project too but honestly i dont waannnaaa. Like its cool as shit. Recreate a card game using c++ code. But man, i just love Apocrypha and Floppies so much more. Eat today???? Please. Dining hall opens in 3 hours. Its goddamn 4 am. I want my food. Dunno if ill get it - if ill stay awake till then. But i want it. Probably draw some stuff? Like i posted one drawing already (check it out if u wanna ;) kay?) but like theres wacom tablets here i can just kinda use whenever???? its great. I love being able to just draw stuff on em. Even if i suck at drawing, even if it took 10 hours to make the one i posted here, still love. Probably play more rocket league. Sleep first, soon as i get that food im CRASHIN BOI IM OUTTIE HA but uhh, rocket league has a halloween thing rn and i like playing it. Was playing earlier today and i matchd with a dude in 2v2 that had the same car, skin, AND colors set up as mine. Totaly random. We kicked some major ass together. I kept thinking of the same hat comic the entire time. (also my card was superior because it had furry ears on it ;))
5 things that make me happy
Getting an idea for a thing and working at said thing until like boom it went from this abstract idea to now it has a physical form and it works! And its fun and its great and i can share it with other people and they can have fun too!!!! that feeling is wonderful. Obviously friends man. Just doing shit with people can be so great sometimes - like not all the time sure but like man. Its nice to talk to people and share experiences and just smile and tell bad jokes and have them groan but like it anyway like thats the shit. Going out at 2 am and walking to a nearby run down schoolyard and swinging on the swingsets and watching shooting stars burn up. Thats the good shit. Getting tents and setting em up in your friends back yard when your friend from far away comes up for a few days, and playing ridiculous games in a group like kick the can or fuckin zombie screaming your lungs out in the dark to freak em out, or just talkin around a fire about fuckin life man. The people make life great. Shits worth living for. I realize that last answer covered a LOT of shit but like, im just gonna add here videogames. Would be amiss if i didnt mention that, considering the rocket league rant above lmao. Yeah i better not make this category any longer.
5 things I’m (currently) into
Isaac modding, probably will be for awhile. Its good shit. As a suggestion from one of the people I work with (we also fuck around its a good time) i have started watching space dandy. Its a slow progress through lol like an episode or two a day but god man like its pretty ridiculous and the main character is pretty much everything i was expecting from seeing him everywhere. Rocket league again. It comes and goes with various different games to tide me over, give me a break from working. Bout 2 months ago or so said relaxing time was dominated by anime - i suddenly went on like a massive streak of watching shit. By that i mean, i watched all of hunter x hunter in like 2 weeks, among other shows prior to it. But yeah. Fuck man HXH I LOVED THE KING WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I have too many emotions about that. I wrote a rant to the Groupchat (tm) about the fucking battle and how everything is in slow motion but it fucking like makes it like foreshadowed and have so much of an impact and still so much fucking happens even while everything runs at super slow mo just GOD KLASFJBHUGHASFIUHIPJASK anyway. Yeah. Music, as always im listening to like constantly. Wireless headphones are a wonder for this, but uhh....i cant say im especially into any specific thing rn right? Like a bit ago i was super into joywave and then that faded out and now im just listening to whatever random shit, yknow? But I am into music in general. Its good. Art! A lot of times i dont do shit like for drawing right, like especially not in like pencil in notebooks but like, i sorta started doing a lot more art stuff? Like i had a period awhile back last year where i stopped using pencils and used only pens and i just loved the aesthetic of the ink like how it looked (funny how im doing the opposite of the fucking inktober though, huh?) but yeah im back into using pencils to draw shit occasionally. Im still terrible at drawing people (which is what i see mostly everyone drawing on tumblr lmao RIP) but its fun to sketch stuff out and just let my thoughts run and bounce to some music and shit right? Also the tablets. Especially with the tablets.
5 things people may not know about me (at least on tumblr)
I basically constantly wear sweatshirts, and they all have like earbuds where the strings go. All the earbud shits are broken pretty much, like occasionally they work (the one i have rn does) but like, i dont ever really use them? i have wireless headphones for my phone and a headset (because i need the mic for my computer) for said computer so like, idk. But yeah. I rarely take em off when im not home, and sometimes even when i am i just kinda keep em anyway? (also just now i realized i talked in the section for room shit about all the stuff in my current dorm, my room at home has all KINDS of wierd fucking shit in it. Really missed an opportunity there.) Like many people i like to stay hydrated and shit, but drinking water all the time seemed like a chore more than anything so i got like drink mix ins and shit, mio’s or whatever offbrand version you can find at your local SUPERSTORE CONGLOMERATE. I drink em like all the time pretty much so atleast im health in one way :P. Also gummy vitamins. I dont excercise but you can only ask for so much. Idk, its hard to think of things for this section because tumblr knows so little about me yknow? Like i never make my own posts or shit like its SUPER rare so im pretty much just tryna find random facts but that might not be interesting? Like i have a bad habbit of like talking way too loud when im excited about something right? Not quite yelling but like getting there and like idk. See? Thats not super interesting but it is something no one online would be able to really know ya feel? Idk. I mean physically im kinda fat as you do, but im also like wierdly strong? Like for someone who never works out i sure do have arm strength if nothing else lmao. My endurance is shit tho. Honestly? I can only blame it on osu and groceries. Osu is just a game i like where you mash buttons to the beat of weaboo shit tier music. The groceries is just because like, well, my policy is Least Trips Possible which means carrying in 13 bags at a time if need be it, fuck it milk too? And a watermellon? Bring it.
Who am I tagging? Idk man. Just for shits and stuff tho i do wanna tag @theoriginalyami just to see what all’s changed in teh long time since i actually went to fill it out :P Dont feel like you have to add as much as me tho omg @milkchocolateowl because honestly? love you. Think about you a lot, just like glad im mutuals with that ray of sunshine. Good. @fantaledfish <3 (this is the friend i mentioned earlier, runs a QUALITY blog i guarantee it, better than mine for sure) @dragonfucker-supreme always top in my notes, a silent bond, like two guards assigned to watch back to back in the early dawn. Birds gather round. I can only tag so many people (i set myself a limit of 5 because...idk why i just mentally it felt right) so for my last trick gotta go with @ask-oncies-jizz like cmon man name changes for the win, also has quality icons and quality shitposts tbh, supreme top meme. Have fun yall.
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I got tagged by @sleepinglionhearts Oh boi senpoi!
Write 5 things you:
Carry in your bag
(if backpack...like for school or traveling)
1.) My clipboard for drawings (filled with recent drawings and extra paper)
2.) Pencil cases. (My main case with inking pens and the works+my colored pencils case)
3.) My ipad for connecting with the world
4.) A plushie of any kind for moral support
5.) Snacks!
(If messenger bag)
1.) My 2ds with an Altoids can of games.
2.) My trusty kazoo just in case
3.) Spare pens and pencils in case i find something to draw on
4.) My container of Elis so i can vandalize
5.) My phone and wallet
Will find in your bedroom
1.) Clothes all over. I have no more room in my room for more clothes so i had to migrate some clothes
2.) All the stuffed animals lining the cabinets, the floors, my bed.
3.) Posters all over the walls. My art from elementary up to now and prints i bought from Youmacon
4.) Figurines lining my dresser. Amiibos and Nendos
5.) Not me. (im sleeping in the guest room because i have not put my bedsheets on yet but also there is laundry all over my bed...)
Have always wanted to do
1.) Sell my art! Been by dream since i was 12, but you know...self esteem and my parents’ paranoia.
2.) Finish an animation. (so much unfinished stuff...not limited to animation)
3.) Be a lets player. Pfff I think my yelling would be entertaining
4.) Break something with no consequence. Throw a rock through a window, set a car on fire, punch a hole through a wall. (no consequences includes the injuring of my hand trying to punch the wall)
5.) Eat raw cookie dough. PFFFF I WANT TO EAT A WHOLE TRAY OF RAW COOKIE DOUGH
That makes you happy
1.) ELI ELI ELI
2.) Having someone talk to me. Either on here or my friends irl
3.) watermelon mmmmm
4.) those cute animal video heehee
5.) alone time. i really enjoy having time to myself. no parents. just me in my house being an idiot. that makes me really happy
Currently into
(this ones hard because gosh dang whats up brain. like something)
1.) Kitchen Nightmares and Hotel Hell. I like Gordon Ramsay. Although I’m not really paying attention but its nice to have in the background pfff
2.) Cartoon reviews and movie reviews. I love having these play in the background, i always go back to ihateeverything, raplhthemoviemaker, and mysteriousmrenter.
3.) I’m TRYING to get into Fire Emblem, hence why I’m TRYING to play Awakening, BUT I HAVE THE ATTENTION SPAN OF A FISH
4.) as you can tell i’m really into FE Heroes right now, so there’s that
5.) I’m really into making stickers. For my friends and just for me also i printed out more Elis! its very therapeutic so i cant stop
Things on your to-do list
1.) I HAVE BASKETS OF LAUNDRY IN THE BASEMENT IN THE LIVING ROOM SO I HAVE TO DISTRIBUTE THAT
2.) BUT I HAVE NO ROOM IN MY CLOSETS AND CABINETS BECAUSE I HAVE TOO MUCH CLOTHES SO I NEED TO TRY ON AND GET RID OF A LOT OF THOSE
3.) I still have to finish that story book. I have 10 out of 16 more pages to go
4.) My list of FEh comics grows more because my brain wont stop so there’s that
5.) I need to pack my stuff because I’m going to DIDNEY WORLD
Things people may not know about you
1.) I have been sheltered all my childhood. I wasn’t allowed outside by myself, so i was barely allowed outside. My parents’ schedules messed things up. I had a swingset in the backyard, a large driveway and basketball hoop on the driveway, but i barely got to play with them. Now it’s uncomfortable to leave the house despite being and adult and wanting to travel.
2.) I cannot swim. I can stay afloat and doggie paddle but I’m too afraid to put my head underwater. I’ve almost drowned like 3 times and they were all in Florida. So I’m afraid of putting my head underwater.
3.) I'm scared of wrists. In 6th grade, people labelled me as emo because i liked to wear black back then? I looked up what emo really meant and it terrified me the pictures i found...not to mention a few of my friends did c u t and they would show me. Why did they show? WHY DID THEY SHOW ME?
4.) Toddlers like me for some reason. Like can’t they tell I’m uncomfortable around them? I just make funny faces and noises a lot so maybe there’s that...they think I’m a cartoon pfff
5.) I have a fucking terrible self esteem. It may not be obvious because I pretend to be a cocky, flamboyant douche whenever I get compliments, but behind the computer I’m freaking sweating and crying. Like, wow you guys actually like my art.
I tag whoever thinks this seems like fun lol
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September 14th, 2017 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on September 14th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PDT. The chat focused on Nine Twilights by Andrea Rosales, Anne Mortensen-Agnew, and Chris Hansbrough.
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RebelVampire
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing Nine Twilights by Andrea Rosales, Anne Mortensen-Agnew, and Chris Hansbrough~! (http://www.ninetwilights.com/) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
DracoPlato
I think I like the latest page the most because it was the happiest so far and she looks cute trying on the dress. RebelVampire
yeah i really liked seeing her embrace freedom there and get to enjoy herself.
especially since even before the big odin reveal her life was pretty crappy
was going to slap her teacher so hard O_O
DracoPlato
yeah her teacher was such a jerk >n<
I liked the transformation scene too because of the colors, but I thought it seemed really random with the rest of the tone of the story so maybe not my favorite since I wtfed a lot during it
MathTans
Hey-yay-yay-yayyay, hey-yay-yay... I said hey. What's goin' on. (re: latest page)
(That's totally He-Man meme in the background, right?)
RebelVampire
omg it is he-man
i didnt even notice
JudgementScythe
it migght be
RebelVampire
thats amazing
DracoPlato
oooomg that's awesome, lol
JudgementScythe
Andrea likes to have fun with the background elements
AndreaRosales
Hello! I'm Andrea! I'm the artist of Nine Twilights!
MathTans
As to fave scene, I'm gonna go right back to Page 13. The conversation while walking down the stairs on one side, with the rainbow on the other. That just looked so neat, like a juxtaposition of the normal with the fantastical, and I would have never thought of doing the layout that way.
AndreaRosales
I love backgrounds, but my favorite thing in making this comic is honestly just having fun with facial expressions. I love having characters emote and really act.
DracoPlato
your facial expressions are amazing, those were my favorite part of the comic
annemagnew
Anne, the writer here
DracoPlato
I really really liked the art in this
AndreaRosales
Aww garrrrsh thank you!
JudgementScythe
yeah the stairs page was one of my favorite things she sent me. It was just a really cool idea for the movement and storytelling of a page
AndreaRosales
Aw, yay! Thwe whole team is here!
MathTans
Though I also liked the transformation scene. I might have squeed.
I didn't expect it, but thought, that ups things.
DracoPlato
I thought visually it was gorgeous
altho wouldn't have minded more norse themes incorporated into the outfit
MathTans
Yay for team synergy! I'm impressed at how you work together.
DracoPlato
it reminded me more of greek designs
MathTans
I freely admit to my ignorance as far as norse goes.
AndreaRosales
The bare inks of stair page!
MathTans
Coolness! You keep all that on hand?
AndreaRosales
I do!
Actually, let me know if you guys wanna see any concept art!
I've got TONS on my compy that I'm more than happy to share.
I like talking comics process . I learned a LOT while working on 9T. It's kinda my first comic.
It is my first serious go at arting a comic
RebelVampire
i really like the composition for the panel on the right cause i find my eye auto drawn to the rainbow. which i assume is a ref to bifrost so i knew something was going down.
MathTans
Your enthusiasm is infectious. Yay for arting.
(Well, and writing and editing too!)
That whole "you knew my name thing" was well done. I picked up on it off Baltur's expression the first time she did it, but I can see how it might have been missed making for a nice callback when he hit her with the whammy.
annemagnew
@RebelVampire Definite. The Bifrost (or the current one at any rate) in our story is something of a fusion between a Boom Tube, the Thor movie's interpretation of the Bifrost, and auroras & rainbows
AndreaRosales
sketchy!
RebelVampire
i really liked the name thing cause for me i was like "wait when did he say his name maybe i missed some dialogue." but then whoops, surprise, this was an important tell
MathTans
Also friggin' impressed how a battle with the undead can have moments of levity in there. Well played. (The heavy sword, for instance.
JudgementScythe
I think, my favorite thing about this whole thing has been watching Andrea's art improve page after page.
MathTans
Cool, it's in different colours...
AndreaRosales
Those are the super rough pen and ink sketchies. I had to play with a lot of different page layouts to get it juuuust right.
DracoPlato
yeah it was good that the name was mentioned again cause i was confused if i'd missed a page
she looks like sailor saturn there XD
AndreaRosales
At one point, transformation page was gonna look like this!
MathTans
So is that by hand and scanned in?
AndreaRosales
Fun fact!
Wanda's design is actually based on Sailor Saturn!
annemagnew
@MathTans Wanda was originally going to have a sword -- Mythologically, Gungnir was a gift and not his original weapon, and one of the Viking weapons books I have mentioned swords as weapons of the nobility and spears weapons of laymen. Also, Gungnir still exists here, even if it's not currently usable. But I figured it would be better to stay "on-brand"
AndreaRosales
It was one of the first design references Anne gave me.
annemagnew
Yup. Her hair is directly lifted from Saturns
sad teenage girls with death powers
MathTans
I can see it now, right, with the glaive and everything.... clever.
AndreaRosales
I do all my layouts on paper in my sketchbook first.
I take pics on my phone, email them to myself and then I just insert them into my Manga Studio document and then I pencil and ink away.
DracoPlato
aaaaah that makes sense
AndreaRosales
Manga Studio is wonderful by the way. I really enjoy working with it.
MathTans
@annemagnew That's fair. As I say, I don't know the brand well myself, but it seemed to work for me.
DracoPlato
yeah i work in MS too, it's a great program
annemagnew
i am All About norse mythology
AndreaRosales
Sad teenage girls with death powers, but also, best friends!
MathTans
I can tell from the avatar.
AndreaRosales
I love horse mythology too.
MathTans
Pegasus?
AndreaRosales
I mean Norse mythology. Horses are cool too though.
Most def!
I didn't know that much/ anything about Norse mythos until this project.
DracoPlato
should've done Loki if you love horses, huhuhuhuhu
MathTans
That would be low key.
AndreaRosales
Neigh!
You're such a good neiiiigghbor for those puns.
I love it.
I love puns. Keep em' comin'!
MathTans
Hah. I'm mostly math puns, but I branch out. Not relevant to 9T though.
I like the idea of them going all over the world, wow! Have you travelled much? (The creators.)
JudgementScythe
I've lived in Oregon and Muskoka Ontario and spent a lot of time in Guanajuato Mexico and Costa Rica as well
You want to know about middle of nowhere Canada. I'm your guy
AndreaRosales
Woo! Concept art time! This was one of my first takes of Wanda in her magical girl form. We didn't go with this one since it wasn't Norse looking enough. So it was back to the drawing board for me!
MathTans
Heh, I'm a Canadian, so I'm good. As Indonesia, I have no idea if the city's right or not, but you seem the types to research such things.
DracoPlato
oh i really like that design
AndreaRosales
I have travelled a fair bit! Been to Italy, England, Mexico ( got lots of family there, I'm Mexican, btw, Canada, Japan, etc.)
annemagnew
I travelled a lot more when I was younger (and didn't have to pay for it, sobs). The idea of globe-hopping team actually sprung out of watching Sailor Moon as a kid. If they mentioned in the English dub why they had to stay in Crossroads (ie because they looked for the Silver Crystal everywhere else), I missed it, and wondered why the Negaverse didn't just go somewhere else. And then I thought if they did, then Sailor Moon would have to follow them! And she'd meet Sailor Scouts in cool places like China and Russia and [other countries?? in my memory those were the only other countries??]
AndreaRosales
I would looooove to travel more though.
I also wished for a more diverse sailor moon!
So when Anne approached me to work on this comic I was immediately like " YES!"
Initially with some hesitation though b/c I wasn't confident in my ability to consistently webcomic well at the time.
JudgementScythe
A lot of the indonesia scenes were taken from reference photos. As well as the fact that Anne and I have been part of the SUikoden fandom forever which has a huge indonesian contingent who I've run things past to see if we've gotten the score right
MathTans
Thumbs up for Sailor Moon, my gateway anime.
AndreaRosales
It's so, so good.
DracoPlato
yis
annemagnew
literally the thing i care about most
MathTans
I don't think anyone's confident to start out with. Or if they are, they probably need humility or whatever.
AndreaRosales
Wanda's magical girl design take 1 was based on Chris Lightfellow from Suikoden 3! I've never played a Suikoden game!
MathTans
Oh, huzzah for fandoms then.
annemagnew
look at that female videogame character with ACTUAL ARMOR
AndreaRosales
I love her design. That armor * kisses fingers*
JudgementScythe
We're going to fix that
AndreaRosales
20 CHEF KISSES FOREVER
Here's an old Wanda! I was inspired by FF games at the time so there ya go!
annemagnew
I still want to bring that pelt cloak back somehow!
AndreaRosales
another early wanda
RebelVampire
i really like the pelt cloak in that design
DracoPlato
same
AndreaRosales
Wanda's def. gonna bring pelts back in style!
MathTans
How long did you concept the comic before starting, if you don't mind the question?
Wanda's gonna pelt people?
annemagnew
@MathTans I came up with it during an internship I had in college, 2012 or 2013
I wanted to do a magical girl comic since forever, and I love Norse Mythology, so combined them. I had two ideas for the premise - the team either were reincarnated gods, a la Sailor Moon, or were just given the gifts of gods, a la Wedding Peach
MathTans
(I vaugely recall some of the bg from reading the between-volume-asides, but not well, and others reading the chat later might want to know.)
AndreaRosales
I was approached for the project in early 2014 if I recall correctly. I think Anne and Chris talked to some other artist friends of ours before they came to me.
We worked on designs and layouts for a good while.
Look at this sassy Sari. I love her attitude.
JudgementScythe
And the two of us talked about doing it for a bit but fell off until I felt the editing bug come back after time away from the industry. Then I was just like no we gotta really do this because you should be writing comics and I really am feeling making them again.
annemagnew
If I had gone with scenario B, the story would have taken place before Ragnarok, and Tyr would have been in the Baldur mentor role
AndreaRosales
OOOH BALDUR!
MathTans
Is Sari also a reincarnation, or is she just related to someone who is?
AndreaRosales
OUR FAVE TRASH BOI
I gotta throw up concept art of him
Original Baldur circa 2014!
He's vintage
annemagnew
It might have been better for the girls if Tyr was their mentor. He’s got far fewer issues about his dad than Baldur!
AndreaRosales
Baldur circa 2016!
annemagnew
Fun fact: Baldur’s entire outfit is lifted from the Balmain men’s catalogue, ca. 2014, when I wrote the first draft of chapter one.
MathTans
Tossing out the mention of Baldur's wife was clever. Helped to hint at his age and stop the shipping before it might've gotten rolling.
anne: that's awesome trivia.
RebelVampire
lol math you think thatll stop the shipping
annemagnew
please dont ship baldur with his dad/wanda with her son (also wanda's gay)
AndreaRosales
Fun fact! Rumiko Takahashi was a HUGE influence on the way that I ink Wanda's hair! I love her work!!
DracoPlato
rumiko is awesome~
annemagnew
i mean, like, do whatever you want, but also, Please Don't™
MathTans
RebelV: Eh, maybe not - I mostly ship yuri anyway though.
DracoPlato
loooooool
AndreaRosales
Look at these two dooooorks
MathTans
Was that an image of Shampoo?
DracoPlato
yis
AndreaRosales
Rumiko is the best!!
annemagnew
shampoo is the best ranma girl
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. This comic is directly influenced by Norse mythology, with the plot being about reincarnated Norse gods (Wanda being an incarnation of Odin). Was there any allusion that particularly struck you? Or, if you’re not familiar with Norse mythology, is there anything you wish you had a better grasp of to understand the story? Lastly, what do you think happened in the past that caused so many of the gods to be reborn?
AndreaRosales
Fun fact! Sometimes I get sections of my sketches done well in my sketchbook. Those sketches aren't always right next to each other, so I just stitch them together in Photoshop to make the final page layout.
Sometimes I get lucky and manage to sketch it all out right on the first take.
MathTans
A Norse is a Norse, of course, of course... honestly, I don't really feel like my lack of myth knowledge (outside of Marvel cinema and Dirk Gently) is a hinderance to enjoyment, and I don't really feel impelled to look into it. Though I do feel like reading the comic heightened my awareness.
As to what happened in the past... Odin wanted to see how the other half lived, and others were on board with that? Dunno.
AndreaRosales
@MathTans , you are great with puns!
DracoPlato
For me I felt a disconnect between Wanda and Odin and would have liked it more if she seemed more similar to Odin in a way that made me go, oh yeah, she totally was him
MathTans
Aw, thank you. ^^
RebelVampire
man math you are missing out on so many allusions :"D
MathTans
I don't doubt it.
AndreaRosales
I didn't know much 'bout Norse mythos as I mentioned earlier, so Anne let me borrow the Prose Edda and I read it in a week. Riveting stuff.
MathTans
Andrea - the stitching's neat, I hadn't even really thought about that aspect.
AndreaRosales
Thanks!
MathTans
Draco: Like more of a fatherly figure, or which? Just curious, not knowing the mythos as well.
DracoPlato
Yeah, or even more of just a connection to anything norse at all
RebelVampire
i cant pick an allusion i like most because i like them all. i fangirled a lot and had to stop myself to remain focused
annemagnew
We actually have the reason why on our About The Comic page, ahaha. TL;DR: Odin didn't feel like being dead forever, roped his favorites (and not so favorites) into reincarnating. It was a bad move, cosmically speaking. Thanks, Odin! What a great guy!!!!!
AndreaRosales
Other times I get ultra mega lucky and all the pencil roughs next to each other work out just fine! Anyway, back to mythos chat!
DracoPlato
for me Wanda read very much as a typical protag, and the norse stuff was just sort of pasted on but not really part of her
RebelVampire
@AndreaRosales whatever works. sometimes just gotta work with what you got the stitching is definitely creative
AndreaRosales
Odin wanted to keep cracking out cool ones with the gang.
RebelVampire
odin please maybe the others just wanted to vacation
JudgementScythe
lol
AndreaRosales
@RebelVampire Thank you! I like to see how I can piece things together. Working on comic layouts is a lot like piecing together a puzzle.
MathTans
The gypsy take (uh, should I even use that word?) is interesting, I felt like it tied into the "travelling to other lands" aspect. But maybe that takes away a bit from Norse origins? I don't know.
annemagnew
Odin: We could be dead forever. Or, hear me out.... we could not
Please don't use that world, but thank you for asking
She is Romani, though.
AndreaRosales
Odin had some free pizza coupons he needed to use! Also, "Gypsy" isn't the word to use. Wanda is Romani!
MathTans
Wanda does seem more reticent than a "typical protag", but maybe that's just me in terms of what I read.
Romani, thank you. (Derp.)
AndreaRosales
All good!
MathTans
I knew there was a term out there. >.< Cleverly set up with the nasty girls using 'gyp', by the way.
annemagnew
Also, @DracoPlato -- I totally get you. Connecting Wanda to Odin was something I've worked with. Without getting into too many details/future reveals: her mother (and father, before he died) didn't raise a terrible person, but that took work. There's something in Wanda's core character that connects her more to Odin as well, and re-discovering that is a part of her arc.
DracoPlato
ah, that's good if it can circle back around to it at least
MathTans
Odin bought a time share but it's only good every other century.
AndreaRosales
First ever drawing of the "God Squad"! Our first 3 gals of the series. Got my ladies in formation! Circa 2015.
MathTans
WHOA. Two weaponing with one of them being that axe? Daaaamn.
Nice shadows.
JudgementScythe
yeah I'm really excited to get to Aish. She's going to be the tank of the party and is SO GOOD
annemagnew
Freyja on the left and and Ullr on the right. Ullr I chose because I thought it would be fun, but actually, writing a character connected to a god whose mythological presence has been mostly erased is Hard
MathTans
Tank you very much.
annemagnew
@JudgementScythe i love tank sailor venus
MathTans
Now I want to see her with a love-me chain.
AndreaRosales
Our precious badass daughter WADNA!
Aish's design is awesome. She's got a sword like Ivy from Soul Calibur. I love drawing that.
annemagnew
@MathTans she has an evolving weapon. @AndreaRosales , do you have the bookmark for her? She's got a link sword there.
Yup, there it is
AndreaRosales
Just posted it, Anne!
@annemagnew I think you mean " WHOOMP THERE IT IS"
MathTans
So here's a question that you don't have to answer, but... are all the gods reincarnated at about the same age? Or is there some kind of hierarchy thing?
annemagnew
also true
MathTans
That is indeed a link sword. Shades of Signum from Nanoha.
AndreaRosales
I can't wait to draw ULLR just doing a crazy cool ski-by on some draugar.
annemagnew
They're all in the same age group, at the most three years apart. I think Freyja's older than most of them. Wanda and Ullr are the same age.
MathTans
nods And I'm guessing Baltur's wife is a reference I don't get.
RebelVampire
ah thats probably good. dont need to have any old folks cramping their style.
annemagnew
@MathTans Nanna is Baldur's wife. She and their son Forseti are ruling Asgard in his absence.
AndreaRosales
We did a promotional mini comic sample thingy back when we debuted at Rose City Comic Con in 2015. You can see a bit more here of how weapons look, etc.
annemagnew
fun fact: forseti actually looks older than his dad does
DracoPlato
oh that's really cool~!
AndreaRosales
@annemagnew It's not the years, it's the mileage!
MathTans
Wow, you did a debut at a Con? Neat.
RebelVampire
ah that page makes me look forward to future action scenes
AndreaRosales
Well, the first time we were about to launch, we took a mini comic
DracoPlato
nice!
MathTans
I guess having a dad like Baldur ages you faster on the outside.
Also I cannot spell.
annemagnew
I see Baldur as a pretty good father, actually. Much better than Odin was.
AndreaRosales
Here's a rough pencil of the next page of that mini comic we did. I was super giddy that I got to do some super cool action stuff.
MathTans
He does seem like he's doing his best, that's for sure.
annemagnew
Of the Odinssons, Baldur and Tyr turned out the most normal and well-adjusted. Unfortunately, Baldur has tons of issues about his dad that Tyr never did.
MathTans
Oh, wait... those two people communicating through the tree, were they his wife and son?
AndreaRosales
Guys, Baldur is trying so hard man! Dad jokes are hard to do!
annemagnew
No, those were the Norns. Two of them, Verdandi and Urd.
DracoPlato
gorgeous action panels~!
MathTans
<-- is a neophyte, or something.
AndreaRosales
@DracoPlato Thank you!!
RebelVampire
i just wanna say i really like Baldur as a character. i especially like that scene where theyre in the restaurant and wanda hides. and then baldur comes in and is like "i know youre there." i totally expected him to just walk on by, but nope. he was a smart boy.
DracoPlato
I'm enjoying Baldur as well
JudgementScythe
He's dumb. but he's not dumb dumb.
MathTans
I liked when Wanda's mom was all "where do you know her from?" and Baldur's like "....School?"
DracoPlato
haha i liked that too
JudgementScythe
WAIT WADNA I JUST TOLD YOU YOU WERE MY REINCARNATED DAD WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME FUNNY WHAT IT'S NOT CREEPY OR WEIRD AT ALL
DracoPlato
she should have embraced fatherhood
MathTans
"Go to your room."
RebelVampire
yeah i do have to wonder how baldur thought thatd go at all well XD like you dont just tell some teen theyre your dad.
annemagnew
he wants his dad to pay attention to him and tell him he's doing a good job (he is doing a good job right???? TELL HIM HE'S GOOD)
DracoPlato
poor baby
just wants some love
MathTans
Baldur needs head pats.
annemagnew
a decent amount of my favorite male characters remind me of this scene from IASIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBfnOtiJOWw
RebelVampire
wanda just needs to tell baldur shes going to the store to buy milk. then not come back. problem solved.
DracoPlato
oooh i really like the blue there
RebelVampire
ah im glad to see huginn and muninn in there too >v>
DracoPlato
yis
AndreaRosales
A Baldur from the character cards we give out at conventions!
MathTans
I wonder if Baldur has the stones for his task. Like, assuming all nine gods have stones.
AndreaRosales
Whoops, lol sorry for the double post
my computer is slow.
All the artwork on a 7 year old machine... ooooof
MathTans
Eh, my phone's older than that.
RebelVampire
(sppt math maybe get a new phone)
DracoPlato
is it a flip phone
MathTans
It has one of those little retractable antennas. Anyway. No prob if old computer.
DracoPlato
oooomg it has an antenna XD that is old
MathTans
I iz old. >.<
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. At home, Wanda faces a lot of pressure from her mother to excel in her studies and pull herself out of their living situation. What do you think of this situation? Does the fact that they’re hinted to be discriminated against because they’re Romani affect your opinion? Do you think Wanda and her mother will be able to see eye to eye?
DracoPlato
wanda kicking ass
i had one too math, it's okay
I just don't use it now
MathTans
It's fair. As a teacher I'm not allowed to use a cell phone anyway, so haven't upgraded. (Btw, as a teacher, I also wanted to slap Wanda's teacher, but at the same time I could see where she was coming from.)
AndreaRosales
This has to be one of my absolutely FAVORITE goof images I've done while drawing this comic. I do a lot of em'. The relationship between Baldur and Wanda is one that I enjoy depicting a lot. I can't wait for all the fun shenanagins I'll get to draw them in later in the comic!
MathTans
"Baldur. I am your father."
DracoPlato
oh that's fair
and loooool
AndreaRosales
Oooh I like this question. They've all been super good so far!
DracoPlato
with the teacher, she should have known if the other girl's grades had drastically improved when wanda transferred there tho, perhaps
annemagnew
Wanda's time at school - and the teacher's dig at her - is a direct reference to how Romani students are discriminated against in Czech schooling.
MathTans
As to the living situation away from school, it felt genuine. (Painful, but genuine.) I'm not sure about the eye-to-eye thing, but they may both need some space for now.
AndreaRosales
Romani aren't treated well/respected in "mainstream" European society.
annemagnew
>> Roma children in the Czech Republic were segregated into “special schools” with poor curricula, lower teaching standards, and very few resources. “Testing” these children was a culturally biased process that resulted in the majority of them being pushed into the special education system. The system also segregated children with additional learning needs, unlike the inclusive education systems in the UK, Sweden, or other countries (https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/czech-republic-segregation-roma-children-continues)
MathTans
Draco - True, guess I felt like it was still start of the semester or something. Pretty sure her opinion was coloured by racism too, is the thing, so she didn't look for other explanations.
DracoPlato
yeah that could be
MathTans
Anne: That's kind of sad, but nice that it's authentic.
RebelVampire
yeah i really applaud the research into it
DracoPlato
my only issue with the bullying is I've read a ton of comics that start that way with the protag recently so I was a bit tired of the trope, so i have a bias there
MathTans
Friggin' "testing" mumble wumble argle wargle fargle.
I'm fine.
(I don't even teach in the US.)
AndreaRosales
I find myself being easily able to relate to Wanda.. my parents are Mexican and there was always that push growing up to be academically successful. That Romani are given such poor schooling is setting them up for failure and it's such a sad thing. It's something that's happened in a lot of places in the world. It's heartbreaking that Wanda is clearly very intelligent, but her brilliance can't be fully appreciated in such a biased school system.
JudgementScythe
the US testing system is so bad. I remember when they first really instituted it and it's like...take this multiple choice test to decide how much funding your school gets
AndreaRosales
That's so awful.
JudgementScythe
NO GIMME ESSAY QUESTIONS CAUSE THAT"S ALL I'M GOOD AT
MathTans
Somehow I made this talk about my job. Back to home life.
DracoPlato
teaching always relevant
MathTans
But it reminds me I have papers to mark.
I'm like Baldur. I want to do a good job.
Haha, steered it back.
AndreaRosales
You're doing a great job!
RebelVampire
i can understand both sides to the situation of their home life. cause i can understand why wanda's mom would want her to break the mold. but i side a bit more with wanda in that i think theres just way too much pressure
DracoPlato
oh cool inking~!
RebelVampire
as for seeing eye to eye, i could see them not being able to get over the odin thing.
AndreaRosales
Thanks! I really wanted to go for a high contrasty dramatic lighting thingy. Haha, I'm no good with words.. it's why I draw.
MathTans
I wonder how much Wanda's mom knows about the mythology thing. (Maybe the undead will make her read up.)
JudgementScythe
But yes... The home life was a really interesting thing to figure out. Wanda's home life, the pressure. The build. I want my life but because of my blood, I need to work 10x harder than anyone else for the same things and even then people will say I'm cheating for what I get
MathTans
Andrea - You do puns, that's good words.
annemagnew
(The bullying and constant pressure are part of why she's less like Odin than she used to be.)
AndreaRosales
I have a feeling we might get some insight into Wanda's childhood at some point... @annemagnew ?
MathTans
I would imagine Odin didn't get bullied much.
annemagnew
Wanda's mother wants her to break the mold, but in the mold she wants.
MathTans
Oooh, smol Wanda.
AndreaRosales
Hehe.. seeing eye to eye... Odin... good one, @RebelVampire !
annemagnew
@AndreaRosales no spoilers
MathTans
We saw a bit of that already, with the stargazing scene.
AndreaRosales
Gosh @annemagnew I just wanna share all the concept art and it's driving me crazy!
Uguuuu
MathTans
patpats
AndreaRosales
babbu Wanda is the most precious thing I've ever been fortunate to draw.
@annemagnew THANK YOU for writing babbu Wanda!
annemagnew
Yeah, part of the fun with her was, as I built the character, realizing her life circumstances are the exact opposite of her past life's. There's a core to her that's still Odin, but her circumstances and her context are so different.
AndreaRosales
A really great contrast of nature v. nurture!
MathTans
A bit of the nature versus .... Andrea wins.
annemagnew
That's true for a lot of them, actually. There are reincarnations who have contexts very similar to their previous lives', and others who have better (or worse) ones.
MathTans
It's nice that there's a mix that way.
Is it one volume per reincarnation for a total of nine? Or is that too far in the future to know?
AndreaRosales
Another goof!
annemagnew
Honestly the way I see this story going, it's going to run F O R E V E R
AndreaRosales
GOOD
I'm glad, @annemagnew because I seriously want to draw this forever.
MathTans
Hmmm.... and yet time passes in the real world. Like Indonesia might look different in ten years. Parallel Earth to the rescue maybe.
AndreaRosales
Here's a fun take on the toppling over due to sword weight page. Wanda's face in that last panel...
RebelVampire
poor wanda really needs to start working out. work on those sword wielding muscles
annemagnew
The way I see it right now - which I reserve the right to change! - the story starts in The Fall of whenever you started to read it, and ends in the following year's spring
@RebelVampire she gets a strength buff whenever she transforms
RebelVampire
lucky :"D
MathTans
So there might be a Christmas Episode.
annemagnew
Nanna thinks everything he wears is good. Which, you know. She's not wrong in this case, but that outfit is just... A Lot
RebelVampire
i really liked the art on the draugr. like when i saw them i definitely knew what they were and there's just something really appealing about them. in a theyre draugr kind of way.
DracoPlato
love the tails behind her~!
AndreaRosales
@annemagnew I'll have you know I'm animating the Christmas special.
annemagnew
Fun fact! Baldur's topwear is three layers: Leather jacket, blue sweater, full plate armor. (You get killed by mistletoe once...)
MathTans
"Zombies" "Draugr. And no."
AndreaRosales
OH NOESSSS!!!!
AndreaRosales
@annemagnew I don't think Baldur is quite fond of Christmas decor...
DracoPlato
Looooooool
RebelVampire
this is how wanda will escape him. trap him in a room of mistletoe then make a run for it
MathTans
Oooh, good point.
annemagnew
i'm not saying mistletoe is banned in new asgard, but i am saying it's considered in poor taste these days
AndreaRosales
Mistletoe is totally banned.
MathTans
I would imagine it tastes bad, yes.
annemagnew
baldur: you can hang it. it's fine. it's a traditional decoration gersemi: but you don't want us to hang it baldur: i didn't say that
MathTans
It's all in the cringe.
AndreaRosales
Fun fact! Anne had me reference Al Ewing's Mighty Avengers for the way that the Draugar lunge out. There's a fantastic panel of Ayala doing that in that comic.
RebelVampire
now im just picturing baldur glaring through a window, watching them to say with his eyes you better not actually hang that
AndreaRosales
Gods, I just love the image of Baldur death glaring the mistletoe away.
annemagnew
it's coming off as passive-aggressive, but he was trying to be polite and accommodating (and okay maybe a little passive-aggressive)
AndreaRosales
Mistletoe? More like mistle-don't!
MathTans
Miss-letoe.
annemagnew
baldur: i'm the god-king of the universe, not a tyrant
(some elf or whatever: can we establish a democracy then baldur: how did you get in my castle)
AndreaRosales
Fun fact! All 3 of us creators are in the most recent page of 9T! We're all in the dance club together!
MathTans
The two ravens, there's no connection to Sailor Mars, is there?
DracoPlato
awwww that's awesome
RebelVampire
ah thats cute. the more i look at that bg the more i can see how much fun stuff went into it
MathTans
Andrea: That's, like, the best easter egg. I was too focussed on He-man.
AndreaRosales
Teamwork makes the dream work!
Backgrounds can be super fun!
annemagnew
@MathTans the two ravens are Huginn and Munnin, Odin's ravens from the mythology
AndreaRosales
This isn't the first time Anne's been in the comic!
annemagnew
They're patterned here off of Pied Ravens, which were native to the Faroe Islands before they went extinct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied_raven
MathTans
@annemagnew Ok, cool, I suspected a mythology link was dominent but suddenly thought I'd check.
annemagnew
#DeadStuff
Fun Fact! Everything and everyone important in this story has been dead, is dead, or will be dead at some point
AndreaRosales
That's Anne in the front seat in front of Wanda on the bus!
@annemagnew true! my hand is dead from drawing so much!
MathTans
Wanda: "What are you writing?" Anne: "Uhhhh...."
AndreaRosales
it's also undead and keeps returning to life
MathTans
Also, that panel had the "she knows me" look that I caught and liked.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. Towards the end of the first chapter, Wanda and Baldur find themselves attacked by Draugr. It later becomes apparent that these Draugr are being controlled. Who do you think is controlling the Draugr to attack Wanda? What are their end goals and do they have anything to do with the current peril the world is supposedly in?
AndreaRosales
Wanda skips cardio day.. yet she runs a lot?
MathTans
Oh yeah, crystal ball person who's likely Norse that I don't know.
The goal is presumably not to perfect reviving the undead in order to restore a family back to life.
AndreaRosales
Fun fact! That's Chris and I getting dinner at the restaurant where Wanda and Sari are!
JudgementScythe
That's definitely a thing that we get into over the next chapters. Chapter 3 is currently pretty big. Anne and I are reworking parts of the script to really fine tune it but yeah. The end of chapter 2 and chapter 3 definitely hit on that front
MathTans
But yeah, here's the thing... if he's (gender guessing there) testing Wanda, is it possible that he'd end up killing her in the process? Would that just mean Odin revives again at some later date? Is it even possible that this did happen before, person was tested and failed and Wanda's the latest in a long line of reincarnations?
(I'm just spitballing here, no need to feel you have to answer.)
RebelVampire
@JudgementScythe looking forward to it being addressed soon then.
MathTans
And if it's not a matter of testing, what's the grudge?
RebelVampire
i feel like if there were a long line of reincarnations, thatd be sad. so many ppl whose worlds were rocked cause baldur hunted them down O_O
MathTans
(Maybe it's back to the mistletoe thing.)
Yeah, though maybe Baldur didn't find the others in time or something.
AndreaRosales
Fun fact! This page's color scheme was heavily inspired by the cinematography in John Wick.
MathTans
Oh, speaking of colours, is there a particular reason why some pages get coloured? Or simply a time thing?
JudgementScythe
We wanted to set apart magic from the real world. When the magic is on...sort of Wizard of Ozzy
annemagnew
It was born out of timing, but think of the color as akin to an FMV in an old video game as well.
AndreaRosales
Wizard of Ozzy sans the eating of Huginn and Muginn
MathTans
snaps fingers Gotcha. Interesting.
FMV?
annemagnew
Whe we meet a new character, something very important happens, or it's magic time, we switch to color.
Full Motion Video
AndreaRosales
Yep!
MathTans
Ahhhh. (Stop... Magic Time! Dun deedundundundun...)
RebelVampire
oh that makes sense for the color vs. B&W thing
AndreaRosales
Hehehehe.. nice! @MathTans
RebelVampire
i really admire the city sho4
the city shot
MathTans
^.^ Indeed. Apparently there's a lot going on in backgrounds too.
RebelVampire
my cat decided to jump on the keyboard in that moment
annemagnew
I love your cat
JudgementScythe
It's one of the things I love. Too many artists ignore the background
Like I can't name the amount of comics I've read or been pitched that had no detail. Comics need detail
annemagnew
Andrea never skimps on the details :)
AndreaRosales
Thanks! Detail drives me crazy, but once I start getting into it, I REALLY get into it.
JudgementScythe
And there are a lot of people who ignore that element
AndreaRosales
OH MY GOOOOOOOD DO I TRY
I TRYYY ALL THE TIME
MathTans
One thing I've noticed a couple times, placement of words balloons doesn't quite flow... like, I'll read one, and then the next one I read I'll realize for context should have come first. It doesn't happen that often, and it might just be me not deciphering heights properly, but thought I'd mention it on the side.
AndreaRosales
Here's an early concept painty of Wanda! March 2015!
MathTans
In your institution?
AndreaRosales
@MathTans Yes, in my institution
I'm so happy I got to throw He-man Hey YAYAYAYA in there
Originally, Anne and I had talked about having Wanda and Sari go to karaoke.
and I wanted Wanda to sing that
MathTans
Heh. I used that meme myself once, kinda. I can't do backgrounds though, I can barely draw characters. So, mad props.
AndreaRosales
Like the joke would be that that was the big Euro-pop jam
DracoPlato
Ah yeah Math I had that same issue
with the speech bubbles
a lot of times i felt like i'd missed a page or I was somehow reading it wrong, the dialogue was often really confusing
MathTans
It happened more in the early pages, I feel.
Celes, the Sun of the Universe
@AndreaRosales that looks amazing!! (both the painting and the comic)
DracoPlato
yeah definitely more earlier on
JudgementScythe
speech bubbles are hard. You can see it took a while to get used to. It's one of the reasons it drives me crazy that letterers are so underpaid
AndreaRosales
Sketchbooks on my desk at my old apt./studio space!
JudgementScythe
same with colorists
MathTans
Fair.
AndreaRosales
Ahhh!! Thank you, @Celes, the Sun of the Universe !! I'm barely figuring out digital painting!
I've never taken a painting class in my life!
I'm wingin' it.
DracoPlato
ah I guess, generally it's good just to find the line of eye movement with them when reading
AndreaRosales
I studied graphic design and minored in animation in college.
Graphic design is my passion.
(actually no, comics arting is)
DracoPlato
like you should have the bubble you want read first higher than the next one
AndreaRosales
Lettering is HARD.
MathTans
Yeah. Though sometimes it was higher and yet my brain still tracked right to left.
JudgementScythe
like colors and lettering are incredibly difficult. And yet industry standards are like under $30 a page for colors on an indy book.
AndreaRosales
@JudgementScythe was really on my case about it at first.
DracoPlato
yeah same
AndreaRosales
He helped me get so much better at it
Coloring is super hard too.
MathTans
It's all about improving.
AndreaRosales
I've got MAD respect for colorists too.
I thumbnail, pencil, ink, shade, color, letter and do all graphic design/social media art for Nine Twilights.
JudgementScythe
and that's one of the things I love about the book. Look at page 1 and the latest. You can tell it's the same artist, but it's so good to see the growth she's gone through since the start
AndreaRosales
It can be a lot. Luckily, @annemagnew and @JudgementScythe are super great to work with. They're always looking for ways for making things easier for me.
MathTans
Much like the protagonist? ^.-
AndreaRosales
Oooh
I'll post page 1 and the most recent page!
Celes, the Sun of the Universe
@AndreaRosales you're welcome <3
MathTans
The website, also, good job on that. It even sparkles over the links. O.o
Sometimes it's the little things.
JudgementScythe
Yeah there are some things I really want to do with it to make it a little easier to update. But I'm happy with how it came out.
DracoPlato
oh with the website I had a lot of difficulty reading on there. Your Archive isn't up to date, and the clicking the image to go to the next page stopped working around where the archive left off, and your next arrow is at the top of the page and not the bottom, which makes me have to scroll back up to go to the next page which is super annoying
and it'd be super helpful if clicking the arrow keys would go to the next page and previous
i think i have a code for it if you want
JudgementScythe
Those are exactly the updates I want to make
DracoPlato
yeah I think it super needs it cause it was almost unreadable
AndreaRosales
Hey thanks @DracoPlato ! That's our next big project. Making the site easier to navigate.
JudgementScythe
well. It's also set up to click on the page takes you to the next page. But yeah currently there are nice things but boy howdy do I want to fix a lot of that stuff
RebelVampire
@AndreaRosales yeah comparing the pages you can definitely see so much growth in the art, and that's just super great~!
DracoPlato
yeah we were clicking the pages but that stopped working after awhile
MathTans
Really? Huh. I guess I only clicked on 'Next', so I didn't see a problem.
Though the scrolling back up for the next is something that could be amended.
JudgementScythe
oh I'll have to go back through and make sure all that is fixed up this weekend.
DracoPlato
yeah would love a next arrow button on the bottom of the page or the side
http://www.smackjeeves.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=15038
Oh i think this is it for the keyboard arrows
AndreaRosales
Oh gosh... thank you so much @RebelVampire ! I'm melting! I really push myself a LOT to get better and better with each page. Do let me know if there's things that I can work on that improve the readability of action, backgrounds, etc.
AndreaRosales
Behind the scenes look! I ink my pages on my cintiq whilst jamming to Star Wars OST, or some other random video game OST...
MathTans
The amount of extra detail in those pages is crazy. Like night and day. Which... is almost a pun? Meh.
AndreaRosales
Awww.. I'm so proud! @MathTans
RebelVampire
@AndreaRosales i think math and draco both pointed out the most major issue already with the speech bubble flow. otherwise i think youre on the right track.
MathTans
Also, kudos/props for consistency in that first year and everything. That can be tricky.
Like, in terms of updates.
DracoPlato
yis~!
AndreaRosales
We have these super cute buttons of Baldur, pouty Wanda, Sari and Zora we sell at conventions! They're my fave.
MathTans
Those are cool.
AndreaRosales
Thanks so much for the advice, @RebelVampire !! That is so super helpful!
I was super worried about posting consistency
it's probably one of the biggest reasons why I was reluctant at first to join the team. I didn't feel confident that I could keep up.
MathTans
It'll be neat to see where things go!
AndreaRosales
I'm super glad that I was able to make it work, even when I got super sick this past winter/spring.
JudgementScythe
Yeah we didn't miss an update. Then illness and other things ate our backlog which is why we've switched to wednesdays and are taking a little time off to keep things from completely overwhelming her
AndreaRosales
I had to get surgery this past April. It was no bueno. I'm much better now though.
MathTans
It's all good. Make sure to stay healthy. Whoa, surgery even. O.o
All the best going forwards.
RebelVampire
glad to hear youre doing better~!
Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party is now complete~! Thank you everyone so much for joining this week’s chat~! That being said, if you would like to continue discussing the comic, we encourage you to do so~! We want to give a big thank you to Andrea Rosales, Anne Mortensen-Agnew, and Chris Hansbrough, as well, for volunteering Nine Twilights for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support the team’s efforts. If you have questions, concerns, or suggestions about CTP, please feel free to PM me, or e-mail me at [email protected].
With that said, next week’s Comic Tea Party will focus on The Changeling’s Sister by yondoloki. Please use this week to read as much of the comic as you would like. Hope to see you next Thursday (September 21st) from 5PM to 7PM PDT~! Until then~! Comic: https://tapas.io/series/The-Changelings-Sister
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