#incorrect t2s

[bosesmikas]

Margie: Girls with asses like mine, do not talk to boys with faces like yours.

[lifeline-but-to-the-left]

T2: Can I talk to you outside for minute?

Taylor:

T2:

Taylor: Why can't we just talk here?

Taylor: With witnesses?

[papasmoke]

A couple days ago someone asked one of those generative ai engines a question mid-conversation with me and they regurgitated the nakedly incorrect answer the ai shat out in complete sincerity, this is the first time I've personally experienced this and it made me want to do some Sarah Connor T2 shit, we're accelerating the destruction of our planet so people with econ degrees can pretend to have a socratic dialogue with google

[dearmahiru-archive]

WOOOO!!! ROOTING FOR YOU AMANE!!!! better make it hurt better make it count better kill us in one shot!!!!

also interesting to me how amane's temple, the foundation of her beliefs, isn't as nearly dilapidated as fuuta's or mahiru's door. it's even covered up by these cartoonish clouds and rainbows reminiscent of her "transformation" sequence in magic. also fun how fuuta and mahiru were both protecting themselves from us but amane is putting herself in an attack position. and the additional symbolism of both her hat being gone and the backpack falling off ooo!

when amane takes off the hat in undercover we get a brief glimpse of the first hint there's something beneath her (adorable!) surface. the hat now being completely gone from her t2 design likely represents how she won't shift back to that happy mask again during this trial.

there's also her backpack which is often associated with schooling (i imagine there's textbooks in there? it looks hefty!) which matches with her mark in backdraft. each mark in backdraft reflects the prisoner: mahiru's "heart" was marked, mikoto's "other half" was marked, and amane recieved an incorrect tick used in tests.

so it really seems to me like, despite her lashing out to protect herself, amane is struggling with losing her "good girl" identity as a result of her guilty verdict.

[doctorbunny]

I've lived through so many incorrect milgram predictions I can't be disappointed but I do really hope tomorrow is the T3 teaser, because its one of those predictions based on a vague semblence of maths (how many days between Jackalope report T1 and T2 teaser) and after we run out of those, predictions just turn in to a weekly game of "Are we there yet?" with no end in sight

At the very least if/when we don't see anything tomorrow, it'll be cushioned by Shidou's birthday on Thursday

[snakes-and-fluff]

I've come up with the world's most insane Milgram theory. Well, I don't think it's true, so it'd be more correct to call it a hypothetical. But my brain was spinning Es around last night as I was trying to sleep and outlined all of this anyway, so:

Is Es an amalgam of the souls of the victims?

Mostly based on the fact that in Undercover each of the prisoners is seen murdering "Es". Now. Is this most likely a way to not spoil who they killed? Probably! However I could not stop thinking about it.

(Reasoning under the cut, including novel spoilers for both novels. I've only read the translated GDocs (including one that was machine-translated) so my info might be slightly incorrect, just a heads-up. Also I don't have the GDocs on hand so I cannot remember anyone's name)

1: The Milgram warden can be a dead person. The reveal at the end of the first novel is that everyone was linked and there was only one death, who became Es and oversaw that trial. So we know Milgram is supernatural to some degree and does allow for this.

2: Each Es has their own Jackalope that seems to be a foil or reflective of them in some way. There is a different Jackalope in each novel to match each warden (a female warden in N1 with a female Jackalope, a male warden in N2 with a male Jackalope). I'll admit that just matching genders is a weak point but stay with me for a moment. Assuming that Jackalope reflects Es in some way, isn't it weird how much MV Jackalope is fixated on solving the crimes? That's not true for N2 Jackalope (who just views it as a job, something that must be done), but MV Jackalope is very determined, especially in the end of the Second Trial Commencement Notice. "What I'm looking for is there, in that decision arrived at only after wading through all that morass!!" MV Jackalope doesn't just want this - he's desperate for it. Is this because MV Es has a personal reason (or reasons) to see "justice" brought to this batch of prisoners?

3: Es has referred to themself using plural pronouns. Most notable in Amane's T2 voice drama, though I believe it's happened before. The easiest way to read this is that the "we" Es is referring to is the audience, but there might be another reason for it.

4: Souls exist in Milgram. The use of the word "soul" to describe why Mikoto's restraints didn't work even though he was pronounced Guilty could just be a creative word choice, but it seems too specific. If Mikoto's different personalities count as different souls that can inhabit a single body fine, who's to say that can't be true for someone else as well?

There is one major hitch in this theory that I can see. The fact that Es has a canonical age (15) is throwing me for a loop, for if they were an amalgamation and not a person in their own right I don't think they'd have an age. They might appear to be a certain age, sure, but I don't think they could definitively say what age they are. However. I did not let this stop me, so I tried to figure out what the hypothetical age of an amalgam would be if we used math, and tried to extrapolate what the ages of each of the victims were:

Haruka – 10 – we don’t know the exact age, but we do know that the person he killed was “younger and weaker” (T2 voice drama), and 10 is a nice round number (and thinking of him killing someone younger than 10 makes me sad)

Yuno – 0 – literal baby, self-explanatory

Fuuta – 13 – we know she was a middle-schooler thanks to her uniform shown in Backdraft

Muu – 16 – she killed a classmate so they must be the same age

Shidou – 30 – this one was the hardest to figure out. I had to look up fatal car accident age range (25-34) and get the mean of those numbers (it’s 29,5 but I rounded up). I chose that because it’s the most likely accident to make somebody braindead, and also it’s what happened to his own family and it’s the closest thing to info we have on what exactly his murder was anyway

Mahiru – 22 – she met her lover in University; either they’re the same age or a year or two difference. I stuck with the same age because it’s easier

Kazui – 39 – Hinako and Kazui were co-workers, so it makes sense that they’d be around the same age. She does appear to be younger than him in Cat’s MV but that’d just be me guessing so it’s easier to say she’s 39

Amane – 42 – the average age in Japan of a woman having her first child is around 30. Assuming this was true for Amane’s mother, she would be 42 when she was killed due to Amane being 12 Amane – 34 – according to a timeline coversation Amane mentions that her mom was around Mahiru's age (22) when she was born. So 12 years later she'd be 34 (thanks mizukiyama & ryrysakura for letting me know about this info I missed)

Mikoto – 23 – I’m assuming his target(s?) were around the same age as him, based on what we see in MeMe. And that the killing(s?) happened recently, as he appears very similar in MeMe to how he looks in Milgram

Kotoko – 21 – I could not find a number for “average age of kidnapper in Japan” (thanks Milgram, that’s now in my search history), or any other searches of the kind, just showing up ages that were most at risk of violent crime. So I guessed.

This gives us an average of… 21,6. Which is not 15. New average with updated Amane's mom age is 20,8. Which is still not 15. Now, Es could be both a person in their own right and an amalgam of other souls.

Or I just wasted your time and proved myself wrong. But hey, I had fun thinking about this hypothetical anyway.

[04dissection]

Quick Thing On The Restraints

(also known as here's how the system amane truthers can still win)

Oh, also, if I say anything incorrect/offensive here, please let me know.

Hello! So this is just a quick thought, but the restraints are specifically mental, right?

John and Mikoto both feel as though they are seperate from one another, even if John's more aware of Mikoto than the vice versa. The restraints are connected to identity, even if Es and Jackalope refer to it with words like 'mind' and 'soul.'

(Image quality drops here because the 'Snapshot' feature Firefox has stopped working, annoyingly.)

(The images don't want to order correctly...)

...And hey. That reminds me of someone.

...

Anyways, y'all want to bully Shidou? Here's two Milgram videos we can get to 1M before Triage:

After Pain (Es Cover)

Song of The Prisoners T2

[chad-something]

Bad Batch Incorrect Quotes

But make it things my neurosci lecturer has ACTUALLY said to a class full of people

Im loving @nobody-expects-the-inquisitorius’s incorrect quote series with TBB was fully inspired by her !! Go check her stuff out neeeowwwww

Tech: Hypothetically, if I were to approach you with an axe and hack you to death, this is what your brain would look like from the side!

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Crosshair: Why is this lecture still going on at 6pm?! I’m normally into my second beer by now.

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Tech: Was that a normal thing to say? I don’t get out much.

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Wrecker: *pausing a video of a brain slice* okay see this here how it looks like a Swiss Roll? Oh god I’m hungry

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Hunter: *brings up a picture of Joan of Arc drawn in anime style animation with massive fucking tits in the middle of a lecture hall with 200+ students present* Is this resonating with you? Am I down with the kids?

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Wrecker: I’m having so much fun! I have no idea what’s going to come out of my mouth next.

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Echo: *brings up a T2 fmri of the brain* oh god what the hell am I looking at?! Why am I asking you? Who made these slides? Wait I made these slides. What the hell is this? What was I thinking

[fruitbasketball]

https://x.com/trendyhoopstars/status/1742395916961874278?s=20

I’m sorry even if I get the logic Caitlin at #3 just looks wrong

YYEEEEAAAAAHHH BOOK AT 25

i mean yeah i think caitlin is always t2 and i think this is a more ortg and ppsa focused list but cait at #3 does feel just like… incorrect

[king-sdw]

has this been done before?

[incorrect-ywpd]

Teshima: I'm doing a great job at keeping my crush a secret.

Aoyagi: *walks into the room*

Teshima: I have to gay- I mean go.

[bosesmikas]

Anne-Marie: Let’s have sex.

Jonah: Really?

Anne-Marie: No, see ya.

[lifeline-but-to-the-left]

T2: If we lose, you’re out of my will.

Taylor: I was in your will?

[spacelion-loveshermulletson]

Teshima: “And If I run and leap at Aoyagi he will most certainly catch me in his arms. Coming in!”

[Teshima rushes towards Aoyagi]

Aoyagi: “No, Junta! I'm holding coffee!”

[Aoyagi drops his coffee and catches Teshima]

[max1461]

My pet peeve is when pop-math articles leave out quantifiers in a way that normies are basically guaranteed to misparse.

"It's impossible to make a Turing machine capable of deciding if another Turing machine will halt." No! It isn't! It's impossible to make a Turing machine which, given another arbitrary Turing machine, will decide if that Turing machine halts. It is in fact very easy to make a Turing machine that correctly decides if another Turing machine halts: pick a Turing machine T1 that halts, make a second Turing machine T2 that outputs "1" regardless of input, feed T1 to T2 and hey presto you've done it! I can guarantee you that a non-math person will parse the above quote in the incorrect way and conclude that the construction just given must be impossible for some reason.

Similarly when people say "the decimal expansion of an irrational number contains no repeating patterns." Wrong again! The sequence "22" shows up several times in the decimal expansion of pi (indeed, if pi is a normal number, it shows up infinitely many times, but that's yet to be proven). What people mean is "if a number x is irrational, there is no finite string S of digits such that you can obtain the decimal expansion of x by repeating S infinitely many times", i.e. that the decimal expansion of x is aperiodic. Again, I am absolutely certain that a non-math person will draw the wrong conclusion from the statement given.

Why do pop-math explainers still write like this?

[stefanduell]

UPPER/MIDDLE BACK, SHOULDER OR ARM PAIN? POPPING/GRINDING NOISE WHEN MOVING THE SHOULDER BLADE? PAIN WHEN BREATHING? ⠀ RHOMBOID MAJOR & MINOR MUSCLES ⠀ [ANATOMY, FUNCTION & PATHOPHYSIOLOGY] ⠀ The rhomboids attach from the spinous processes (SPs) of C7-T5 to the medial border of the scapula, from the root of the spine of the scapula down to the inferior angle. Rhomboid Minor: SPs of C7 & T1 to the root of the spine of the scapula. Rhomboid Major: SPs of T2-T5 to the medial border, just below the root of the spine down to the inferior angle. ⠀ The rhomboids retract the scapula but also slightly elevate the scapula. In addition, the rhomboids rotate the scapula inferiorly, or downwards, such that the glenoid cavity will point more towards the ground when the rhomboids contract. It is these actions, retraction and downward rotation of the scapula that make the rhomboids clinically important. ⠀ Rhomboid pain is felt under the neck between the shoulder blades and spine (Pic 7). It’s sometimes referred to as shoulder blade pain or upper back pain. You may feel pain in this area as a strain, a shooting pain, or some type of spasm. ⠀ Other symptoms of rhomboid muscle pain may include: ▪️tenderness in the upper back area ▪️a popping or grinding noise when you move the shoulder blade ▪️tightness, swelling, and muscle knots around the muscle ▪️loss of movement or difficulty/pain when moving the muscle ▪️pain when breathing Rhomboid muscle pain can also cause pain in the mid-upper back, at the backs of the shoulders, or between the spine and the shoulder blade. It can also be felt in the region above the shoulder blade. Overuse of these muscles can lead to pain in the shoulders and arms as you can see on picture 8. You may develop rhomboid muscle pain as a result of: ▪️poor or incorrect posture ▪️sitting for extended periods ▪️injuries from straining, overstretching, or tearing the muscles ▪️sleeping on your side Sports such as tennis, golf, and rowing can cause pain in this area. Activities and work that require you to extend your arms over the head for a long time, carrying heavy bags and backpacks, and lifting heavy objects can also cause this type of pain. #Rhomboids https://www.instagram.com/p/CZrIVfMg4ed/?utm_medium=tumblr