#in their genocide of palestinians. 'trump would be worse' there isn't any worse! they're already acting with complete freedom and no
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the-voice-of-night-vale · 5 months ago
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whatever ur electoral decision is. can we PLEASE stop pretending america is a democracy. it is, and has always been, a farse of a democracy at best. the electoral college? the supreme court? anyone?? i remember finding those things distinctly undemocratic in middle school.
saying that 'we're choosing between fascism and democracy' is just patently untrue and frankly disrespectful to the vulnerable people who have been harmed by the authoritarian state even (and in some cases ESPECIALLY) under democrats.
(and before you say, "okay, fascism vs worse fascism" please take a moment and think about how fucking insane that is.)
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fairuzfan · 1 year ago
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Genuinely curious, because I've seen some people say that one should vote biden because if you vote for trump or desantis their stance on the ongoing genocide and other matters would actually be worse than what we're contending with, and I have no true frame of reference: do you think that's actually true or a likely possibility?
I'm of the opinion that it really doesn't matter who we vote for anyways, the outcomes will still be the same. Biden is enabling 4 different genocides/ethnic cleansing (Palestine, Congo, Armenia, Sudan) and honestly, I don't see how it can get any worse.
They often make the argument that things will happen *here* that is dangerous but speaking as someone who has lived in a very Red state my entire life, it has never been safe or welcoming for me to begin with, along with others who have similar identities to me. Not to mention that bad things have already happened here under Biden, with the Abortion ban, book bans, and ban on critical race theory being taught in schools.
Trump is not great, like I don't want him to win either. He was the person who moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem and it was seen as a political slap to the face to Palestinians (click). Don't get me wrong they're both piles of shit. But I refuse to elect people into office that let such flagrantly terrible things happen in the world. These people have no oversight in their actions, are free to do what they want, and no manner of "democratic" intervention will stop them from doing the things they want, especially when they're afraid of losing funding for going against major lobbying organizations like CUFI and AIPAC.
This isn't the first time Biden ignored Palestinians in this term. Remember in 2021 with the settlements in Shiekh Jarrah? He didn't say a word condemning Israel for their forced displacement and their bombardment of Gaza (click). Sure the Abraham Accords sucked and that was brokered by Trump, but Biden could have undone that. He didn't. He just re-approved aid to Palestinians (which, who cares when they're under occupation? No amount of aid will help them attain liberation). Palestinians don't want aid — they want America to stop funding the Zionist Entity.
Everyone in Palestine already knows that the Israel's biggest supporter, America, is also their biggest funder. If they just stopped funding, everything would be cut in half. There is no way the Zionist entity would be able to sustain itself. Even now, their economy is failing because they relied on Palestinians for much of their cheap labor. They cannot support themselves without USAmerica's direct intervention.
I am of the opinion that we should organize to change the way our government operates or else things like these will keep happening. It does not help anyone but the ultrarich and the people in power. Things like Cop City and the genocide in Congo and Sudan and Armenia only happen because the US has a vested monetary interest in oppressing them. This will not change between presidents. Biden will just be quieter about it.
I don't know how to organize stuff like this, or where to go to organize, but if we keep playing in the system they laid out where they always win, then there's no way anything can change.
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As we get closer to election day, I'm going to need people to be normal about Palestinians complaining about Kamala Harris.
Don't reply to their posts with "But Trump would be worse!" (They also hate him, criticizing Harris is not an endorsement of Trump [And if they don't name a candidate they want you to vote for it's not an endorsement of anyone]. They're fully aware of how bad Trump is, the thing is that with the, you know, genocide going on they're already going through hell now under someone who's not Trump.)
Don't reply to their posts talking about how hard you hope their lives will be under Trump because they're a minority (I've seen people do this, seriously what is wrong with you? First that's not how you act when you want to convince people. Second many of them are already suffering under the Biden administration. Third, you're just being bigoted when you do that "You're a minority who doesn't agree with me so I hope [Terrible thing] happens to you if my politician doesn't win" is just showing that you don't care about minorities unless they agree with you. You're not "warning" them or whatever you think you're doing, you'rejust being a prick. And you're showing every other member of a minority group that your opinions are worth listening to.)
Don't call them a psyop for having a negative opinion of Harris (Yes there is election interference going on. But that's more "Elon Musk is putting targeted ads on Twitter telling different voting blocks completely opposite things about the same candidate" and not "This one person told me they don't want to vote for Kamala Harris because their [Friend/Family member] died from the Biden administration's actions". Instead of harassing them and telling them that Gaza is a single issue, just let them be.)
Lastly, if Harris loses on Tuesday, we are not blaming Palestinians, got it? Even if the number abstaining or voting 3rd party would have won her the election. Nobody should be forced to vote for an administration that is actively taking part in killing their families, and nobody should be criticized for choosing another option under those circumstances. The Biden administration could've already started an arms embargo on Israel, or even just sent them less money and fewer weapons, or stopped vetoing UN resolutions, or actually used that dock they built for humanitarian aid (Like they pretended they would) instead of sending in more military forces, etc.
They could've actually done something to make Palestinians genuinely want to vote for Harris, but instead the Biden administration has thrown itself full force behind the genocide. Has Harris said better things about Palestine than Trump has? Sure, but those are all words until something actually happens (Technically the Vice President doesn't have much political power, but she is in a position to put pressure on Biden and be more vocally supportive of any policies that would actually make Israel stop. And she hasn't).
Basically, just don't harrass the people who are currently direct victims of genocide. It's incredibly simple and easy, just don't reply to or report their posts.
(Side note: Yes there are articles about some Palestinians either supporting Harris or saying anyone is better than Trump. Try to remember that Palestinians have varying opinions and if you're responding to a Palestinian who's mad at Harris by saying "But this other Palestinian isn't so you shouldn't be!" you are indeed the bad guy. Additionally it seems like in Gaza the current general opinion is "This election doesn't affect us because neither candidate will stop the genocide." That's not an endorsement of Harris, that's telling you you still need to protest after the election. And if Harris does get elected and she continues Biden's policies then you will see me shift to advocating for 3rd party candidates instead of simply telling you to not harrass people over their voting decisions. If she actually helps Palestine I would be pleasantly surprisedbut as of now I don't expect her to do anythingbut uphold the status quo [Which is really bad])
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savefrog · 2 months ago
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Hi! I shouldn't assume that being a longtime follower means I know you but I gotta unfollow anyone engaging in "vote blue no matter who" rhetoric and figured I'd say so on my way out. You have every right to do whatever w electoral politics and I agree there's a level of pragmatism to voting. But like, are you saying that about the USA Dems?? They're bombing Gaza to the point of genocide as we speak! Even if you're not proud of that fact, what would be the aim of such a vote? I doubt anyone of any party committing war crimes can be pushed by freely given votes, no?
You're welcome to unfollow. But essentially I'm entirely on the pragmatism end here.
Me saying vote blue in this case is not going "woohoo ok dems i love everything you do, do whatever!!!!"
it's a matter of "red quite LITERALLY wants to remove all ability to protest and say this shit is wrong".
see summary of Trump on shutting down the ability to protest
blue is not entirely clean on this matter either but i would take getting run over by a motorbike over getting run over by a truck.
I would like to preserve the ability to say the government sucks ass and while I totally get where people are coming from when they don't want to vote dem...I'd say that abstaining from voting to "send a message" is akin to complete silence in this current election climate especially considering the stakes, and there are a lot of other ways to get a message across that isn't passively allowing the literal white supremacist in - who by the way said BIDEN of all people was too soft on Palestine and that he wanted Israel to hurry up and "finish the job":
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source (It is also recorded on various other news sources)
Though frankly I agree with this quote here, from an article that is also critical of Harris and Biden:
“Trump would be the worst,” Asmaa Nimilaat, 50, said from a hospital where thousands of people are sheltering in Deir el-Balah, an area in central Gaza. “But any candidate that becomes president will not support Palestinians.”
The USA as an entire machine is so heavily invested in Israel it's hard to imagine a pro-palestinian president ever being elected. That is why I said the election is "picking your opponent".
The ideal situation is a complete rework of the US. As much as not voting FEELS like protest here...it is not going to do anything meaningful in this regard. It is indistinguishable from a non-vote from someone who couldn't get off work or was screwed out of an accessible voting location by red bullshit or just skipped out of apathy.
But we can at least not let the guy in whose ideal is to restructure the government to only allow fascist kiss ups in, heavily criminalize any opposing voices and militarize against them, has already set a new standard to allow the executive branch to do "What the fuck crime ever", and continue to use poc and lgbt in the US as a scapegoat and target of violence to radicalize his people. And then CONTINUE to protest and make pressure.
By all means I'd say no matter someone's plans for the actual voting day, TELL democractic nominees you're undecided and will not vote if they don't call for a ceasefire that lasts more than 10 minutes.
You can do whatever, but im personally not interested in a situation I see as letting conservatives take what is already bad and making it 3000 times worse and 80x less improvable and I guess I would encourage others if they can stomach it to make that same consideration rather than treat the election like a moral pageant. If they truly believe not voting will actually send a message, cool. But I want people to think really hard on whether it will. And then for the love of god don't stop at just voting.
If anything I encourage people to vote dem in state elections if only because there are dems right now trying to make ranked voting a thing, so that we can finally be free from having to vote dem at all and actually make it viable to pressure them in ballots!!!!
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sormatumb · 1 month ago
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It won't stop it. Neither democrats, because everything they've done have shown unconditional support with just lip service once in a while with no real actions other than giving more and more money, weapons and reassurance that they will defend them no matter what even if they invade other countries. I can say in passive voice about pleading to stop a conflict but if I just sit on my ass while still giving them the most money they ever had to kill them consistently for a year, praise them for civilian bombings they do in other countries that kill lots of civilians just because what they claim is a terrorist is there (which, again, even monsters like Bush couldn't do https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1840311827269333460?t=fqwOhxvL6cg35RQrl5O5fQ&s=19 ), and no actual changes whatsoever, those words are just empty noise meant to try to calm down the critical voices (let's remember, when asked about how to convince voices against the genocide, she answered that the real important really was October 7th, the palestinians and lebanese lives don't). And again, for something like a genocide that should have been stopped from day one. And let's not forget the democrats' insistence on impulsive criticism of zionism with antisemitism in order to silence criticism and voices, and all government departments whose pleads are being ignored and/or persecuted. The fact you don't feel to share any words to admit how fucked up the situation is and everything you say about the democrats had no negative undertones suggests me you are not concerned about it.
And I've already talked about the strategy of not voting for democrats, short term of course not, but if short term is only going to allow the democrats to feel secure in their position and doing nothing when even a genocide they still support won't make them lose, why would they change later, especially if no one seems interested in holding them accountable afterwards? https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1826705116784717999?t=K5_PIpuBIOti83oFWEMXJw&s=19 You can disagree with that strategy's effectiveness, but it is one, it's not done willy nilly. You can explain respectfully why your don't think it would work, but have to accept that many people either don't know or don't buy it, instead of immediately coming to insult to their faces that they're the real monsters.
But regardless of that, the point of the post wasn't to convince someone for not voting, as I've said, is criticizing that attitude of painting everybody who doesn't vote because the reason of voting the responsible of a genocide (which regardless of how much they can say pretty words or that Trump will do it worse, they still were the ones who make it and keep making it, it's a literal genocidal on power right now) as whiny assholes, because if a genocide isn't reason enough for you to at least be uncomfortable with these candidates and sympathetic to those who don't want to, and don't try to talk to them constructively and respectfully about how to improve things in what you consider best, it only shows that all those issues are still a second priority to you you won't think too hard. And don't recognize, especially for the arab and Muslim communities, they feel abandoned by the whole country, even by the people who claim to protect them and even use the fact of threats of deportation by the other candidate as a bargaining chip for voting for them as they kill their loved ones in other countries, as if you should be grateful they are only killing them instead of you. Many of them prefer to be deported than be complicit in directly voting genocide (democrat or republican), and that they are not being taken until account when they are the biggest victims, and the ones being harassed the most by people who sympathize with posts like these, just proves their point even more. And people who want to stand by them and stop the fact that the status quo, regardless of side, is killing them and degrading them no matter what (both by those hostile to them and those who still are despite claiming they are in their side) is a valid thing.
It's the reason why all time vote for Kamala in those communities is at an all-time low: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/22/harris-muslim-arab-american-vote/ and we wouldn't tell an oppressed and massacres group to vote for a system that is against them in all forms. Which is a debate every marginalized community have had for years, from indigenous people to black people. And calling them "well you'll suffer when Trump is there, feel good you hypocrites" doesn't echo change for them, it echos the same status quo and disregard for them.
TL;DR: Treat people who are rightfully aghast with the genocide done in their name and money as real persons with the most valid of reasons to be against this system with respect and talk to them with concern instead of hostility and pedantic "well you are the asshole". Because otherwise you are not making points to your cause, you would just reek the same disregard and passiveness that most democrats are using to not do anything, and alienate people more because why would they follow someone's voice who tells them being against a system built on genocide that goes against them and takes them out of their jobs for even talking about it are being whiny.
And if you need a refresher on the monstrosity of the situation to get why people are so upset and their trepidation is justifiable, here are some links you can check in detail. Maybe it would help to talk to them like they are persons with morals. And if you are still adamant on classifying anybody who is doubtful or angry about this failure of a country to not want to vote for someone for doing one if the worst crimes in humanity as whiny, let's just say we'll agree to consider each other assholes.
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How every plead Kamala has is just empty words: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/us/politics/harris-israel-gaza-war-biden-trump.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
The latest warning about arms embargo is just a cynical empty PR ploy: https://x.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1849215206896873793?t=RhJ-mbqH3Ch-dtwP3OwhIA&s=19
How Kamala is involved in all meetings all these years, and in fact accuses Trump of not being harsh enough on Iran when he almost provoked a war on 2020, as if wanting more: https://x.com/el_sabawi/status/1845506184092193083?t=_q2ZmoKF5zgN3gyZLxLaVw&s=19
Kamala insisting on the NYT mass rape hoax consistently since it was debunked: https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/white-house-screen-palestinian-torture-confessions-push-mass-rape-lie
The government falsifying documents to allow Israel to keep doing their genocide: https://x.com/umyaznemo/status/1841686003192303948?t=6TNDYODfAgSHcdSb0daiQA&s=19
Support of Lebanon's invasion, just so you know that for a lot of people having a republican not even pretending for peace is not different and therefore why stick for a candidate that will do the same instead of pressuring for minimal standards of they want to get your vote: https://x.com/John_Hudson/status/1843747793212715288?t=NP0OyHmR1-mmxYwt6FsbHg&s=19
Documentary on the horrors of Gaza composed exclusively of the photos and evidence donde by the soldiers who are proudly doing it: https://x.com/AJIunit/status/1841885939791999043?t=s3kVOk-w-OPxu8D5y2jApQ&s=19
Black activist on how disgusting is that Kamala is using blackness as a justification for genocide: https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1842219713918644421?t=1vUV5-utkdl1mqRh5WQn7Q&s=19
How, despite the US pleads about a ceasefire (that Hamas agreed, Israel broke by continuing and killing the negotiators and US did nothing afterwards) they just admit they always wanted them to be killed anyway: https://x.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1841122763521626427?t=8-7xbLWUINPWdBtn9dJxKg&s=19
All the names off persons killed in Gaza. Because each one of them is a person, not an abstract statistic: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/program/newsfeed/2024/10/7/the-names-of-those-killed-in-israels-genocide-in-gaza
Little threads by an arab that sums up what I think: https://x.com/tha_rami/status/1840512355295215837?t=9SERprUUd0BGC6B8P35XHA&s=19 https://x.com/tha_rami/status/1840484589115949389?t=MUk1csef8nHjpPyFl7CAfw&s=19 https://x.com/tha_rami/status/1844995674384822706?t=QYOmewf1-JLoyg5nVHfIIg&s=19
This account in general gives you a closer perspective on the pain and anger palestinian-americans feel: https://x.com/LexiAlex?t=-yDHfsjCpdKG2qeqrllaDQ&s=09
This is the thing with the "I won't vote for Harris" supposed leftists.
None of them will tell you how allowing Trump to be elected helps.
Because they don't have an answer.
Because they don't really care about anything other than how they personally feel.
Actual leftism involves making pragmatic moves. The public will for revolution doesn't exist, and we live in a two party system. If you want to fight that system, great. There are things like ranked choice voting and the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact we need to be fighting for. But those are fights that have to happen year round, at the state level, and not just in an election year.
And in the meanwhile, you vote defensively and strategically, in an attempt to save as many people as possible.
Saying you aren't voting for Harris isn't taking a stand against genocide. It's putting your head in the sand and admitting you care more about your own comfort than making a difference in the world.
Why aren't you getting involved in your local politics? Why aren't you running leftist candidates at a local level, so you can move them up in the system and eventually move the political discussion left. You want to know why politics have moved right? It's because the right wing has been doing that for decades.
Your refusal to participate won't save a single life.
It only means you're abandoning everyone else.
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not-voting to spite biden for his bad presidential choices isn't gonna mend any of the damage; refusing to engage with anything that isn't 100% morally correct isn't like the $1.25 you put in a vending machine and then get solutions to national and international problems out
we dont' get to pick a president who's gonna be The Good Guy in this situation - the next us president is going to have an agenda with regards to israel's genocide efforts which have little to do with the suffering of the palestinian people, and considering what trump + desantis + the republicans agenda tends to be when they're talking about their own fucking citizens, idk why anyone thinks clearing the way for them would be a winning move, more of a "biting your nose to spite your face" sort of deal
biden at least could potentially, maybe, get shamed by a continuing massive public pressure into withdrawing all support for israel. trump? desantis? the guys who already would love to see significant portions of their own nation's populations dead in the dust? who blatantly support authoritarianism wherever it'll benefit them? yeeeeaaaaahhh, there ain't no way they won't make the palestinian situation even worse than it already is, and we DO NOT WANNA SEE IT
sorry but i want to hit every american talking about not wanting to vote democrat anymore with hammers. lol
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mrsgojosatoru · 5 months ago
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First things first, I am a Palestinian-American. So a quick bio check before you tell me that I'm not allowed to despair over the genocide of my own people would have been smart. But since you love to run your mouth, lets go cunt.
Practically no Palestinian or Palestinian in diaspora wants anyone to vote for Joe Biden. As someone who actually communicates with Palestinians, stays abreast of the news out of Palestine, and listens to what Palestinians are saying, I know that. You clearly don't do any of those things. Probably because your community is more insulated in terms of race then you claim. Or at the very least because you -- as I said in my original post -- aren't aware of the situation in Palestine.
Biden could actually halt weapons and aid to Israel, pretending he can't is WILD. Most US presidents do. Biden is to the right of George W Bush and Ronald Reagan on this issue.
Let me take some things piece by piece
And why aren't you calling out Palestine's neighbors for their culpability in refusing Palestinian refugees?
Since you don't seem to know, Palestinians neighbors won't take in Palestinian refugees unless they're guaranteed the right of return. They do not want to assist in their mass displacement. Which you seem to be cool with. I am highly critical of other Middle Eastern countries for not doing things like placing an embargo on trade. You don't fucking know me, and you don't know how I have GROWN UP hearing my family talk about the way Middle Eastern countries should step in to help.
Or Britain for helping kick all this off in the first place?
I am highly critical of Britain. Why do you think I'm not?
Why do you expect nearly a century of cyclical violence to stop in 10 months? Much as I wish Biden would stop sending aid to Israel (which, if you'd been paying attention, you'd know that Bibi is pissed that military aid has been slowed to the point of affecting operations)
Because we send three billion dollars on a GOOD YEAR to Israel so they can kill and oppress Palestinians, and we've been sending them a lot more money and weapons over the last nine months. Also you're a fucking idiot. Do you read news articles or .... anyways Israel was denied one shipment. (Source) This is called political theater, I guess you've never heard of it. I do wish I could just trust everything a politician says though. Must be nice. Idk if you actually cared about Palestinians you'd watch at least the press conferences where the white house says "no, the latest atrocity won't be stopping the flow of money or weapons to Israel."
No, this isn't about me, but you're levying some ugly attitudes on people just because we're not all out here flaying ourselves alive and that is a very naive, entitled attitude for you to have.
I'm a Palestinian-American, and my single request was that people stop telling me that it will be worse for Palestine if Trump gets elected because they are already experiencing the worst thing they can. It was a humble request to stop making it seem like there is a better option for them. And to stop shaming people who don't have an "America first" attitude.
Any work on aid to Gaza will stop under Trump.
There is no aid getting in now. People are starving to death. Women are using tent scraps when they menstruate.
It would look like faster military aid to Israel, with bigger bombs and worse artiliary. It would look like the bullshit the US pulled in Iraq in the 2000s, but 1000 times worse, because he would go mask-off and send diplomats who would encourage more death, more destruction, and it would embolden all the other authoritarians on the world stage.
THE MILITARY AID IS ALREADY UNIMPEDED!!! Biden is to the right of GEORGE W BUSH and RONALD REAGAN on letting this aid in. Israeli soldiers are posting Abu Ghraib style pictures daily. There are detention camps where people are being tortured. The New York Times has even detailed the sexual abuse prisoners are facing. And I'm giving you sources from Western News Sources because I am sure the accounts of rape and violence coming from Palestinians themselves wouldn't be enough for you.
Stop using genocide to take your despair out on other people. It's so g-ddamn performative.
I'm a Palestinian American. Again, quick check to the bio would have helped. But I do LOVE the implication that me caring about the complete destruction of my own people is "performative."
I'd also like to add that the point of my original post was nothing is worse then genocide, and Palestinians already face those conditions. That I don't want people saying Trump would be worse, when there is NO WORSE. There's not a worse. And that people would be better off talking about other political talking points.
Go do research on US foreign policy.
I have a master's degree in American Studies.
I won't accuse you of being performative on behalf of Palestine, despite clearly not being up to date and willing to believe everything Biden and Netanyahu tell you. But I do think you should try and understand what a post is saying before you comment on it. Like basic reading comprehension.
And I'd also check the bio of someone before you comment. Because I just don't think telling a Palestinian-American that their anger is performative is the best look.
Anyways, I think you should probably start finding ways not to be the living embodiment of a human open blister and either
Find more effective ways to campaign for Joe Biden outside of trying to tell people Trump will be worse for Palestine. As I said, at best it makes it seem like you're concerned about West Bank annexation or at worst wildly uniformed. (You're the latter btw.) I did suggest you all just lean into your White/Blue America First policies. But you know that's just some advice. Just admit you know its selfish, but you need people to vote to make sure white people in blue states will be safe. (Because people of color are safe no where, because a Palestinian-American six year old was stabbed twenty-six times in a blue state. Because Biden also loves funding cops. And queer people in red states are already dying. And if you kick a ton of people off medicaid disabled people who relied on it for doctor treatments get what? And red states are passing laws to restrict teaching and library books. But anyways I digress.)
Start building community to help insulate the inevitable Trump win.
Also maybe you should pay better attention to the news, get news from non-western sources, and actually start listening to people of color when they speak. Like if you're going to go toe to toe with someone over it.
Anyways, since your reading comprehension is at the level of the average tumblr user, I anticipate you won't understand any of this. So let me reiterate.
Stop telling Palestinians in and out of diaspora (diaspora means a population of people scattered from their place of origin, so those of us descended from Palestinian refugees) that Trump will be worse.
I am once again so humbly asking people to stop telling Palestinians and Palestinians in diaspora that "Trump will be worse." We're under no illusion that Trump wouldn't enact the same policies as Biden. We know of Trump's ties to Bibi. We know he would prefer Trump in office.
But there is no worse than genocide, so if you could stop telling people Trump would be worse than what is already happening -- an unimpeded flow of weapons and money to exterminate as many Palestinians as Israel would like.
I cannot take it seriously.
I get it. You're scared of a second Trump presidency. But Palestinians are already being subject to genocide, so there is no worse for them.
You're better off arguing for whatever slightly centrist policies you think Biden will uphold, which I can't possibly imagine what you think it is. He booted a ton of people off of medicaid, he's approved a ton of off-shore drilling, under his leadership the CDC whittled covid isolation to nothing, and he has revoked asylum for immigrants. But you know I'm sure you can come up with something. Supreme court maybe. Encourage people to be single issue voters.
But you shouldn't tell people Palestine will be worse off under Trump. Because I do wonder what that would look like for you. At best it says you worry about West Bank annexation (though the West Bank has also been under increased attack recently), and at worst it means you haven't been paying attention to what's happening to Palestine.
Anyways Israel fired 355 bullets into the car of Hind Rajab, that little girl who begged rescue services to come get her out of the car of her murdered family members before dark because she was frightened of the dark.
And Biden not only doesn't give a single solitary shit about that little girl dying frightened, or that Israel bombed the rescue medics (after giving the permission to come get her), he paid for the bullets that did it.
So again, I ask you, what pray tell, is worse?
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