#im planning to make a post about sarah and katherine lmaooo

[dashiellqvverty]

was going to reply to your post and then it got too long.

newsies was also one of those movies where i was learning what words meant as i learned the lyrics because i watched it so young so that's always so hard to get past.

but i will say i think the changes to sante fe in particular are really great (and i love what the stage version does with crutchie). most of the changes to carrying the banner (although i really miss the section with the mother looking for her son), the world will know, and once are for all are pretty solid. seize the day is functionally a different song, which is fine outside of the softer approach toward scabs across the show. the only changes i fully dislike are in king of new york, but that's also mostly the result of the denton&sarah > katherine shift (which i understand was needed but ultimately didn't care for, especially making her pulitzer's daughter)

that's so fair! i definitely consider myself a movie hater (though really i'm more of. a disliker.) but at the end of the day i simply love talking to people about newsies in all its forms and what they think of it and stuff.

i think most of the lyrics i like less in the movie version of king of new york are less the stuff thats directly related to denton and more just the little individual lines the newsies have - which is the same way i feel about carrying the banner. i feel like the new ones just feel more natural (but also like. of course i do, i learned them first)!

im already forgetting bc i keep pausing the movie and doing other things but i feel like seize the day came at a slightly different point in the story? like the same part of the plot but hitting different emotional beats? so that makes sense that its so different. i'm really interested overall in how the show changes the approach to the scabs (now that ive gotten to the rally scene in the movie i'm like okay so they just pushed up jack agreeing w david about not being violent instead of making it an ongoing conflict) and softens the messaging overall. like despite being a disney movie in the first place, the stage show is much more ~disney-fied~ (which, for good or for bad, i do think is part of why it was so much more well-received) (gonna be real i still have like half an hour left in the movie and i forget how it approaches the ending, so i can't make a comparison yet, but even without the context of changes from the movie, i think a lot about how the stage show kind of undercuts the radical themes of the actual story that is happening onstage by having the Big Messages they SAY out loud be a lot more abstract and wishy washy)

i have always been fond of katherine but again, that was my introduction to the show - i've never had any strong feelings about her being pulitzer's daughter but i definitely don't think it ADDS anything to the show beyond the one moment of the ~shocking reveal~. iirc youve mentioned that her being pulitzer's daughter kind of removes an element of class solidarity? that's not a way i'd thought of it on my own but its definitely a really valid criticism and they very much couldve kept her character without doing that. in fact, it would probably make her more interesting if she was a woman with a career who WASNT a nepo baby.