#im just gay and love greek myths. so there's that.
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Akiva is a beautiful name!!
you’ve also hit against the dozens of questions i always end up having to ignore when im thinking of an au fic involving soul stuff (daemons, soulmates of any revealing gimmick, that au where you know the minute you’ll die, etc). trying to figure out the religious implications is wild.
since daemons are generally the opposite gender of the human, and i believe meant to house the “masculine” or “feminine” half of the soul that the human doesn’t have, i think in your case Akiva would have a bar mitzvah. or maybe they’re just included in yours, since you’re two fragments of the same soul? im sure rabbis would have a lot to debate about in that case. (that’s not even getting into a human and a daemon being of the same gender, which is something that can happen. a fan once asked if that meant the human was gay and the author said “yeah sure”, but i personally think it makes more sense that it’s when the human is trans and isn’t out yet. if it’s indicative of any specific gender queerness, anyway.)
since my dad studied latin and greek and me and my sibling ended up with common greek-derived names, i think a similar thing would happen with our daemons. maybe they get latin names for balance, LOL.
(since im thinking about soul aus and Greek myth at the same time now: dark soulmate au give me the greek myth-accurate soulmates. i want these two to turn into a two-headed, double-bodied monster the first time they touch. where is it.)
anyway! thanks for answering my ask, hope you don’t mind the rambling here!!
It’s like you’ve read the rambling inner thought within my mind as I was wondering about the initial question 😂
See, this is why I love genre fiction - so much exploration and weird questions!
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rating 'fantasies' songs by their tlt vibes
recently i got really into this album and ive been listening to it nonstop and i got the urge to make this post so behold.
Help I'm Alive
we open with a BANGER. the whole heart motif beauty of existence thing is very tlt in general but "if we're still alive my regrets are few/if my life is mine what shouldnt i do" feels like it could be ntn cam+pal perhaps. 6/10 for general vibes not really going anywhere specific tho.
Sick Muse
i could see this as a convo between gideon and harrow. "pull your little arrows out an let me live my life" she WOULD say that about love... ily harrowhark necro'mancer nonagesimus lyctorway keep sticking your middle finger up at preps. but the main event is "all the blondes are fantasies/we looked at them eleven ways/you said look at me then looked away" like i dont even need to explain this one. YOU SAID LOOK AT ME THEN LOOKED AWAY the orpheus and eurydice the betrayal the hurt why wont you eat me please please consume me why are you saving me sorry one sec. ill shut up about greek myths now. 7.5/10 that one lyric saved it for me
Satellite Mind
this song is so strange and offputting it has to be about our favourite little bone nun <3 its givin htn harrow "i can feel you most when im alone" um the body the body the body "flashback of a feeling/sixth sense of a calling" its the love! that they couldnt take away!! 6/10 because i think that the dreamy freaky what the fuck is happening are suuuuper htn however the actual lyrics arent super close
Gold Guns Girls
i want this song to be about ianthe tridentarius soooooo bad... i want it to be about our favourite perpetually thirdweeling failgirl so much... like ive never wanted anything else ever oh my GOD... "i remember when you were gambling to win/everybody else said better luck next time" underestimated at canaan house anyone? anyone at all? no takers?? no??? 3/10 because despite my deepest wishes this is just a good song thats not about gay catholic homestuck 😔
Gimme Sympathy
slightly ironic gtn griddlehawk at its finest. "get hot/get too close to the flames" oops! now ur her cavalier "wild open space" gideon-gettin-shocked-by-days-on-earth-emotional.png "talk like an open book" not with that vow of silence. idiot. "sign me up!" shes not signed up haha "ill remember someday all the chances we took" not after the lobotomy u wont lol "we're so close to something better left unknown" cough cough LYCTORHOOD. 9/10 manifesting kiriona giving harrow sympathy after all of this is gone in alecto
Collect Call
hiii ntn fans i prommy i didn’t forget abt u! this one goes out to the psychosexual mess of role playing and bad meals enjoyers <3 "i know it's a lie i want it to be true/the rest of the rot is riding on you" oh boy like i said psychosexual mess... pyrra dve my beloved "wishing you could KEEP! ME! CLOSER! IM A LAZY! DANCER! WHEN YOU MOVE! I! MOVE WITH YOUOOOOOOOOO" oh lord nona placing her hand on cam's shoulder like palamedes would. oh lord being so close in one body and yet a second apart. 8/10 should be higher but i started Having Feelings about nona's death again and couldnt finish listening to the song
Front Row
this is a john song if I’ve ever heard one. “burnt out stars they shine so bright… all of us” is def. giving lyctor vibes. (just children playing with reflections thinking they were stars grauauauagh etc etc) plus plus “he’s not perfect/he’s a victim/of his occupation/social insulation/secret intervention” like fuck dude he really is!!! pilot that president around ordinary dude fuck the world up with your good intentions!!! 10/10 this song is the brainrot undying the kindly prince of my lyctor brainrot
Blindness
besties ngl i am INCREDIBLY torn on this one,,, on one hand “what it is and where it stops nobody knows/you gave me a life i never chose/i wanna leave but the world wont let me go” goes crazy hard. like harrowhark ‘cursed to keep living’ nonagesimus? hello is that u? on the other hand the whole opening sequence of this is very blood of eden coded… 5/10 this song has a very Character Energy about it but i think i must accept that that character is probably not a tlt one
Stadium Love
ohohohoo! here she comes!! this song IS about canaan house like the whole thing n nothing will convince me otherwise. "wanna make a deal/angel versus eel" hm im getting gideighth betrayal vibes from this "rabbit versus dove" WHAT DID I SAY colum get back here your government assigned fursona is in the song "owl versus dove" uuuuuh this can be about the sixth being cool basically whenever because sixth -> wisdom -> athena -> owl. idc that they live on mercury fuck off. the blorbos may be smart but i dont have to be. btw camilla hect if you read this im free on thursday night and would like to hang out plz respond and then hang out with me on thursday night when im free. u can bring your necromancer too if yw. "every living thing pushed into the ring" duel time every (necro)man(cer) for himself "guess you thought you could just watch" go on enforce that cohort order judith! it wont backfire at all haha! "NO. ONES. GETTING. OUT" well. uh. none of them are. plus cant you just see the Character Portrait Flashes AMV Moments to the wooowooos?? cant you??? "without STADIUM LOVE" the last time they say this w the beat drop it should be gidedeath cytherea duel epic timez and then the echoing "love love" at the end is harrow waking up and mouthing The Three Syllables TM. 11/10 somebody lend me their animation skills please i would be sooo epic and responsible with them i have a Vison...
in conclusion thx for listening to my deranged ramblings (if anyone actually does.) please go listen to fantasies its so so good... message me and we can brainrot thru it together xoxo
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what are your thoughts on will's (presumed) main insecurity being 'powerless' compared to the other apollo campers? (im saying this prior to reading tsats so ig nothing is really 'confirmed') cus some ppl think it's goofy some ppl think it's interesting
he got minmaxed into damage reduction so i get that he feels insecure around all the dps people around him. but also the "weak but actually op" trope is very prevalent and i. kinda want to see an average built main character? like no fancy tricks? nothing glamorous? it would be so cool if will was killing people without even plague "powers" just really efficient methods of assassination(but i guess riordan wouldn't want kids to know how to do that) kinda goofy but i hope he stays powerless
tangent into my personal response to riordan books
whenever i think abt riordan demigod powers i gripe a little. a decent amount. cause the riordan storyline is a parallel to kids with absent parents, and that the kids are thrust into danger by their parents who don't even acknowledge them, right? and its huge character moment when the kids get even a little recognition, or when the gods straight up appear to talk to their kids? but in ancient myth, thinking homer, virgil, ovid, the demigods have no control of the elements or anything like that. their greatest power is their leverage of godly bias. cause the gods are everywhere. so the ancient trope and riordan trope are pretty much fully contradictory so i can't. it'd hard to add historical interpretation into riordan for me
and. it's so. it's y. you can be so cool without magic.
yes riordan's characters are cool and their scenes are noteworthy because they are flashy. because they can summon waves, and terraform, and shoot fireballs, and it must have been imperative for riordan when writing this series for a younger audience. but now i'm looking at these guys doing it constantly, and their strength keeps increasing, and the physical rebound keeps increasing, and i've . hit a wall in my interest? like no one is weak and no one is making mistakes and the greatest character flaws are jealousy, stubbornness, and... selflessness?
it all feels predictable at this point. like, i could not have predicted that this guy who survived three successive bouts of treason cause of his otherworldly rizz had said flutes were un-liberal as a kid, leading to flutes getting removed from the school curriculum, and also he had a sexy lisp. i couldn't have predicted that two bros would force sparta into their first ever military defeat, the philosopher bro using 3d chess strats in his phalanxes and the bodybuilder bro clutching with his 300 strong gay bodybuilder gang.
but. tsats preview where there's another obscure deity and she wants to hear about these teenagers' love lives? and it all begins with a star wars reference? yeah that's about what i could have expected
it just feels like there's no stakes at this point. i still stand that things would be way more interesting if they just died at this point, cause it's been drilled in that "you were so close to death" "you could have died" "you will die" and so on. but even so somehow i didn't feel much when the side characters or main characters died in hoo or toa?
it could be the direct characterization . riordan , especially in recent days, really loves his direct characterization. i think so, cause i did like the bits in tower of nero when the characters were just being silly and being friends.1!! like. just talking about cows. just throwijg each other around. the good stuff. the characters just feel like flat pngs and riordan adds filters to them every other chapter
tl;dr: my tastes have shifted to out of pocket ancient greek and roman myth/history and i don't enjoy romances
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Hi hello hi I just caught up on equinox and it's making me insane I have so many thoughts I'm just going to throw all of them at you beloved mutual. Also I listened to the Hades ost while reading this and I think it rewired my brain chemistry. Also Equinox spoilers below dear readers.
QUITE FRANKLY I do not know enough about Ancient Greek myths because it was never an area of interest for me but never the less I have been GRIPPED. Atherix was like "I hate cheating stories and I am Making An Exception for this one" so of course i had to read it and now I am simply perched like a bird staring down at this it is fantastic. Oh my god I cannot wait for everything to run through the fan here.
Scar and Grian are SUCH a mess and it is a DELIGHT. You have truly captured the Vibes here my lord. The fact that Scar remains loyal for SO LONG after Grian stops paying attention to him and keeps a shrine to his husband and grian is just. GOING BEHIND HIS BACK. AUGH. MY HEART CANT TAKE THIS. and then SCAR being like "you know what i deserve it" far be it from me to cheer on someone cheating on their spouse but FOR THE LOVE OF THE GODS MAN YES YOU DO. ESPECIALLY considering how Grian vs Scar's cheating parallel each other like Grian is LYING to himself and hurting both himself AND bigb in the process whereas Scar is FINALLY happy with Mumbo while S T I L L feeling the pull back to Grian and the way ALL of it parallels double life and how Grian and Scar see alliances and contracts as completely different and play the game different can anyone HEAR me I am SCREAMING
GOD I WANT TO SHAKE THEM ALL IN A JAR!!!!
And the fact that Mumbo is Etho's son [I think. I think I understand this dynamic correctly] is going to make me GNAW MY OWN ARM OFF ETHO MY BELOVED!!!!! AUGH HIS CHARACTERIZATION IS SO GOOD IM GONNA GO INSANE. I AM THROWING MYSELF OVER A FAINTING COUCH.
AND THEN BIGB'S NYMPH...TIE. BRANCH. THING BEING INSIDE GRIAN'S GARDEN BUT THE ONLY PRE-RELATIONSHIP THATS TAGGED IN MUMSCARIAN!!!! I AM SO SCARED FOR BIGB OH GOD
Oh my god and the way redstone works here has my heart. Delicate devicess that can blow up and be made big and complex its just so. Mwah. Mwah mwah mwah. I love redstone so much.
AND THEN ALL THE SOFT REDSCAPE WHERE MUMBO IS WORRIED BECAUSE HES A DEMIGOD THIS POOR MAN IS GONNA HAVE LIKE. 3 IDENTITY CRISIES TO GET TO THAT MUMSCARIAN TAG HUH. "I hate the gods I am a demi god i love a god I love two gods oh god[s]". My poor mumbo jumbo. Whump on him some more I love it.
AND JUST THE DESCRIPTION OF THE UNDERWORLD AUGH ITS SO!!!! The way you describe it is so vivid and yet also like ever shifting in my mind which tbf is how I would picture the actual underworld anyway and I just DLKFHSAFHKLADFKLHA I AM GOING MAD
AND CUB!!!! CUB MY BELOVED OH YOU HAVE CAPTURED HIS 'WAY TOO CHILL' ATTITUDE SO WELL GOOOOOOOOOOOOD. The scene between cub and grian i was just like GET HIS ASS!!!! GET HIS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!
AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH THE FACT THAT IM OUT OF EQUINOX STUFF TO READ NOW. SOB. I CANT WAIT FOR ME
Hello beloved mutual Stitch <3 Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts, I spent all morning being excited about this ask!
Thank you, yes! Double Life was the first life series I got to watch live, and I am just. I'm not over any of it tbh? at least 1% of my psyche is at all times devoted to screaming about this canon soulmate AU.
And honestly? I feel the same about cheating stories. But then cc!Grian said "I want to hang out with my bestie, so I'm gonna make my little guy be into his little guy" in double life and was then like tragedy! pain! despair! and I ate that shit right up.
Scar really did go "I can have a little gay summer flirt for myself, as a treat :)" and then turned around and fell Hard for Mumbo. Way harder than I think he thought he'd be able to with a mortal. Not that that's something he thinks about much, of course. Mumbo is just Mumbo to him, he doesn't care about what he is. Scar you really should tell him you're a god. You really should do that my dude.
Yes Mumbo is Etho's son and it was entirely accidental 😂 I was like "Well this is who Mumbo is in the AU and then a couple of days later "Oh I know who Etho is" and then it took me like an hour from there before I made the connection.
Top 1 reason I need mumscarian to become canon in this au soon, btw:
[ID in alt]
me in fic: redstone is so cool I love it so much redstoners my beloved me in mincraft: *sobbing, weeping, wailing as I rebuild an item sorter for the third time*
Honestly? Yes. Mumbo is just here trying to live his life meanwhile a tidal wave of god politics is building in the background. He's gonna have A Day when everything gets brought into the light. I'm sure he'll be Fine about his boyfriend of many years being something he's terrified of, though... right?
I am looking very hard at Cub's current lore, because that could be relevant for a future equinox thing and I badly want an excuse to bring him back.
Thank you < 3 I wrote a sentence on my WIP just now, just for you.
[ID: she grins, teeth like jagged shards of iron]
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hyacinthus my dearest mutual can you recommend me uhhhh sources or just stuff to read about, well, hyacinthus. i wish to expand my 'ancient greek gays' catalogue
(i wanna write about him. but i dont KNOW him. i know the story but i just know the basics. i wanna KNOW him. you know ? ?)
OUGHHH ofc dearest mutual robin🥺👌 well I guess reading OVID metamorphoses would be an obvious one? He can be found on chp 10 [162] honestly love the quotes there, though that version is where he's accidentally killed by apollo with no zephyrus-blowing-the-wind-out-of-jealousy involved if you wanna read about his festival, Cults of Apollo at Sparta (hyakinthia) by michael petterson is pretty fun and has lots of information. Also recommending to read Pausanias' "Description Of Greece" 3.19 bc it just has a small bit about hya and his sister being carried to the heavens by the gods<3 most of the sources focus on his main myth yk dying from a discus and stuff so not much is known about his personality. Though chasing after a discus that a god himself threw with all his might? Bro's got balls!! hes so silly like that<3 theres a bunch of more sources where to read about him but currently this is what I can get from my head so far since im out and eepy</3 though happy researching though!! I'm sure you can ask my fellow hyacinthus stannie @gotstabbedbyapen for more too !!
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spoilers are below the break and indented
2022-11-13, 15:13
so id written up this whole first impressions review after watching s2e1 of warrior nun but i think it disappeared into the aether?
im through s2e4 now and and opinions are pretty much the same. writing is better but still not great, feels like the got a better budget and/or practice on the vfx, storylines are interesting enough to make me want to keep watching
im sketch about the major new characters (but i always am (especially men)), but as theyre built out i am intrigued how things will go. there's some relationships hinted at that id love to see followed up on cause im a hopeless romantic at heart
theres also some kickass demon murder which is always cool
2022-11-14, 00:07
right so netflix already killed one show i loved this year (rip first kill, you were too stupid to live 🙏). if warrior nun doesnt get a third (final? wrap it up, dont push your luck) act i might actually fuckin riot.
and dont get me wrong, i have ~feelings~ about how the show went down (particularly e8), but those can (and should) be cleaned up
can we talk about the tropes that went into the last bit tho? kill your gays, forbidden lovers, borderline enemies-to-lovers, fuck! also the whole thing felt really male-gaze-ish
dont get me wrong, i was rooting for it the whole time (see: hopeless romantic), as someone who mostly ids as male it felt kinda icky. idk maybe im just drunk
but anyways, it was good solid fun and i think it deserves another go. give it a whirl netflix, take a risk, you have a content problem and making cool shows that ~some~ (not all!) people like helps
also it takes the piss outta the church. i think i make my view on religion fairly clear (and am happy to clarify them if i dont), but i am an absolute sucker for myth and legend and boy howdy do the abrahamics have a lot of that
christianity is of particular interest to me, maybe because its the predominant religion in my part of the world, and the one ive been exposed the most. i also find that in general its the least commonly to be used in a mythological sense
i love shit like warrior nun, or lucifer, or his dark materials (is the show good? i havent seen it), that use christian myth as an inspiration/basis and spiral out from there. like fuckin da vinci code is about the fake history, these build a fantasy out of the legends
i see "a lot" of stuff stemming out of islamic and jewish myths, and im not nearly well-versed enough to say why that is. maybe theyre older religions that hung on to some of the old gods cruft? the creatures and shit that dont really appear in christianity
and dont get me started on the ips that are built on other old religions. norse, greek, slavic, the "old gods" that are classified as myth solely cause no one really believes it any more
theres no difference to christianity, or judaism, or islam, outside of the fact that people still believe in it. its all stories to explain why the world is the way it is and codify a way to live
im mainly picking in the big three here, but i have the same feeling towards all the others. hinduism, shintō, etc dont get a pass
so yeah, more christian myth please. theres a lot of material there and making people mad is fun.
2022-11-14, 12:51
been thinking a bit more about why this bothered me so much can we talk about the tropes that went into the last bit tho? kill your gays, forbidden lovers, borderline enemies-to-lovers, fuck! also the whole thing felt really male-gaze-ish
i think its the build up. they were pushing this from e1 or e2 with the dance scene, but then did the ol classic "we're into each other but we're never gonna talk about it like normal people"
and the relationship never progressed. at all. until the last half hour when its just lets kiss and declare our love for each other
which fair, these chars are young and in a rough spot (mildly) so maybe theres no time for that. but it still felt weird
and something i see pretty often (from a certain crowd) in these situations is the "oh so youre just gonna make 'a' gay now? she never suggested anything like that", and its like, no
bi people exist. and if theyre in a heteronormative relationship then 1, good for them, and 2, they can still be into the same sex! they dont need to talk about it!
and in this case, 'a' had been confined to a bed in a catholic orphanage for most of her life. maybe the whole, oh i like girls too thing just didn't hit for a while.
and 'b' was obviously gay right from her exposition chat in s1, even if they didn't come right out and say it (see: catholics).
i love that it happened but im bothered that there was no depth to it. idk, maybe if they figured it out in like, e5, and were able to spend some time building up to that final release itd have gone down better
i.e. still tropey but at left i could have felt better about it
copied from twitter, 2022-11-13/14 https://twitter.com/virunus_/status/1591887046150340615
#twitter#rant#warrior nun#religion is a cult#mythology is cool though#warrior nun season 2#spoilers#wn spoilers
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Gaius Iulius Hyginus ...
"Latin author, a pupil of the scholar Alexander Polyhistor, and a freedman of Caesar Augustus. He was elected superintendent of the Palatine library by Augustus according to Suetonius' De Grammaticis, 20. It is not clear whether Hyginus was a native of the Iberian Peninsula or of Alexandria." Wikipedia
"Under the name of Hyginus there are extant what are probably two sets of school notes abbreviating his treatises on mythology; one is a collection of Fabulae ("stories"), the other a "Poetical Astronomy"."
He's got many lost writings... (hate when this happens, but nah...)
More on the Fabulae..
"The Fabulae consists of some three hundred very brief and plainly, even crudely, told myths (such as Agnodice) and celestial genealogies,[3] made by an author who was characterized by the modern editor, H. J. Rose, as adulescentem imperitum, semidoctum, stultum—"an ignorant youth, semi-learned, stupid"—but valuable for the use made of works of Greek writers of tragedy that are now lost. Arthur L. Keith, reviewing H. J. Rose's edition (1934) of Hygini Fabulae,[4] wondered "at the caprices of Fortune who has allowed many of the plays of an Aeschylus, the larger portion of Livy's histories, and other priceless treasures to perish, while this school-boy's exercise has survived to become the pabulum of scholarly effort." Hyginus' compilation represents in primitive form what every educated Roman in the age of the Antonines was expected to know of Greek myth, at the simplest level. The Fabulae are a mine of information today, when so many more nuanced versions of the myths have been lost.
In fact the text of the Fabulae was all but lost: a single surviving manuscript from the abbey of Freising,[5] in a Beneventan script datable c. 900, formed the material for the first printed edition, negligently and uncritically[6] transcribed by Jacob Micyllus, 1535, who may have supplied it with the title we know it by.[7] In the course of printing, following the usual practice, by which the manuscripts printed in the 15th and 16th centuries have rarely survived their treatment at the printshop, the manuscript was pulled apart: only two small fragments of it have turned up, significantly as stiffening in book bindings.[8] Another fragmentary text, dating from the 5th century is in the Vatican Library.[9]
Among Hyginus' sources are the scholia on Apollonius of Rhodes' Argonautica, which were dated to about the time of Tiberius by Apollonius' editor R. Merkel, in the preface to his edition of Apollonius (Leipzig, 1854)."
Yeah, seems.. idk... im confused...
Gotta appreciate the ones who can work a nice way out w too little infos, really want to know what he had to say on the godess he & probably a select group of ppl envisioned as a primordial, was it instead of another primordial as we learn in Hesiod's Theogony... or was an addition, did i read right? Appeared b4 Chaos?? Or im already confusing w sth else... my bad, cs taken a mlp pause to work on a ship edits, of which two i lost cs picsart got bugs agn...
But here's the one that didnt (cs didnt forget to save)... the pony on the right is the oc, ik, i placed cheese sandwich too much in center, so it looks like its abt him, but no, he's just a pal... the name of the blue one w what i envisioned as brown curly mane w blue highlights, is Swirling Magus - & he's oc kid of wizwinds (wiz & winds) gay ship from mlp equestria girls... he's a nice guy, an ambivert, likes both to study like twillight, & hangout w friends, hold magical performances, & he can be so silly... pronouns: he/they
Yeah, just explained my dizzy mind 😆😁
Now ill back to Higynus ...
Found it on topostext.org 😍
"§ 0.2 Preface: From Caligine (Mist) (was born) Chaos; from Chaos and Caligine: Night, Day, Erebus, Aether. From Night and Erebus: Fate, Old Age, Death, Dissolution, Continence, Sleep, Dreams, Love — that is, Lysimeles, Epiphron, dumiles [?} Porphyrion, Epaphus, Discord, Wretchedness, Wantonness, Nemesis, Euphrosyne, Friendship, Compassion, Styx; the three Fates, namely, Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos; the Hesperides, Aegle, Hesperie, aerica." ...
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Yes pls talk to me about the trojan war! It's been so long for me but reading a version of that was me of my core childhood moments prob (gotta find the book again once I get back to the garage where it hopefully survived the last decade) and with me reading more riordanverse stuff I am INTERESTED and I love it!!! Who are your fav characters in there? :3
Ohhh so the statue of liberty as a Trojan horse made by the French? :000 pls pls let it be like that it would be so funny
ok so first off, here’s the TikTok I was talking about:
it’s just a silly concept but I found it really funny to think about
And secondly, i haven’t read the actual Iliad in years the most recent adaptation I read was the song of Achilles so I’m a little biased to my tragic gay boys rn
Like on one hand I’m trying to get out of my Greek mythology phase because there’s a lot of other things that are just as interesting but I just keep relating it back to greek myths
but on the other hand I really love it and I just keep getting sucked back into it (especially with all the stuff abt the pjo show coming out soon lol) so im not leaving it anytime soon
what about you? What’s your favorite parts of the story? And who are your favorite characters?
#My translation of the Iliad is short so it won’t take long to re read#But I literally just started good omens so give me a couple days to finish that lmao
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MY PLEASURE (thanks for enabling me, this somehow turned into a full propaganda post)
The short version is: VOTE JUNANA (Hoshimi and Nana)
But here’s the longer propaganda, and im gonna ramble a bit about both ships:
Maya x Nana
Full disclosure, i have not watched the stageplays, but based on what I’ve heard and the tags in this post, the main reason for people voting for MayaxNana is this scene here (particularly when you get to timestamp 4:07)
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Basically Maya cuts off/stabs Nana’s arms in the fight. I can see why they’re in this poll bcos Maya is completely feral here akhdykcuochkvkcky. Also i did some research and these lyrics are based off the greek myth where Zeus falls in love with a woman named Europa, and kidnaps her by disguising as a bull. It’s implied that Maya is Zeus and Nana is Europa? So yeah. These two have a lot of toxic yuri going on and clearly has some baggage. Particularly because Nana is one of the few people able to challenge top student Tendou Maya.
However, I do somewhat agree with the person further up. At least compared to JunnaxNana, it’s not as personal. From what i know of these two, defeating each other is just a means to an end. (Again i dont know the full context of the stageplays so i may be wrong)
Now onto junnana
Junna x Nana
I present to you Junna and Nana’s Revue of Hunting aka their 10 minute long theatrical gay divorce.
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While Maya and Nana are fighting to defeat each other, Junna and Nana fight because Nana is obsessed with her. Or a past version of her. So when she realises Junna is no longer the same person she used to be, she well…. tries to execute her.
SHE’S OBSESSED WITH HER
Nana literally spends the entire revue referring to the Junna in past tense because she’s no longer this ‘perfect’ version of her that Nana is clinging on to.
She’s grown possessive of Junna and tries to force her into this role she’s made up for her. Refers to her as ‘My Junna-chan’
I’ll also mention that Nana’s whole schtick in the show is that she created a timeloop not because she wanted to change the past but because the past was perfect to her and she wanted to relive it over and over again. Here she has basically projected her whole fixation on the past onto Junna.
(Also side note: im surprised Futukao - unhealthily codependent childhood friends and stars of the other 10 minute long theatrical gay divorce - did not make it into this poll lmao)
Which yuri couple is the most toxic (Banana edition)?
#sorry for going on a rampage i am simply insane about them#anyways. vote junana#poll#revue starlight#hoshimi junna#tendou maya#daiba nana#junnana
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❛ Late night prophecies leave my tongue tasting like copper and lead. ❜
& when honeymaren speaks of prophecies , elsa would beg of her not to become cassandra , doomed to disbelief & scorn eternal. she would plead of her to stay silent , let metallic prophecies stew in her blood , let them poison her instead. but that is cruel , a slow death from never being heard. elsa has felt that , she too had died so slowly over the years , killing parts of herself to make it through the night , poisoning the words that threatened to leave her , killing thoughts before they could form. she could never condemn someone so wonderful to a fate so terrible. still , frigid hands reach out to her , seeking her fire warmth , seeking that golden part inside of her. elsa’s hands settle over her own legs instead , clenched into fists upon her thighs. she is mortal & yet immortal , human & yet not.
honeymaren is , to elsa , life itself. she is both wildfire & honey , sweet & yet passionate. she is the very essence of humanity , untouched by the passage of time. elsa cannot help but be drawn to her , in a way she is nothing else. winter’s hands settle on honeymaren’s shoulder’s after a moment , tired smile etching her face when she can finally speak.
‘ sounds like something is troubling you. ’
#hneymrn#❪ ❄ ┊ answered. ❫ —— ❛ here i stand & here i’ll stay. ❜#i Highkey don't even know what this is !!!!!!!!#im just gay and love greek myths. so there's that.
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TRYSTAN CALLING ME APOLLO AND HIM HYACINTH. SCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP ETC.
#i actually clutched my chest#cant wait to wait another like week for the next chapter umhmm#also im wondering what he says if your mc is a woman and trystans a man or both are women#but what about two ladies#does it change bc i would assume he says like apollo for himself and daphne for female mc right or vice versa if the genders are switched#im just curious bc it was so beautiful of him to cal himself hyacinth. and mc apollo.#it seems more outwardly like him to think of himself as apollo right. sun god. beautiful. worthy of dying for but instead he switches that#hes like yeah im the beautiful tragic gay mortal that will die for your love. what of it#im probably reading way too much into it but i loved that shit#of course hes well versed in the gayest of greek myth. of course he has read ovid he loves the metamorphoses#ruminations#my posts#choices#playchoices#choices stories you play#crimes of passion
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connecting clarke to persephone is in fact my biggest galaxy brain moment sjksjsjksjs
#⭐ ・゚ * ⦙ ᵇˡᵒᵍ —— ooc,queen bitch of stupid bitch syndrome.#i know the common one is hera or athena but#cmon !!#its right there#clarke has literally always been half life and half death#from the moment she#set foot on the ground#people misuse her (clarke's) myth in so many ways#literally in the series#i just#[clenches fist]#i love both clarke and persephone#leave me alone im useless and gay and in love w/ greek mythology
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thanks <3333 you’re so sweet
wait oml that’s so cool no way and i bet they looked adorable
BAHAHAH real no i had the good fortune of a very gay teacher (i love him so much he’s so sweet) when learning abt the iliad although he still was very pro the movie troy purely bc (and this is a quote from him) ‘i like looking at pictures of brad pitt’
ahhhh real and that’s so pretty omllll i wish too but somehow i just cannot manage to keep plants alive it’s really not ok
oh cuuuuute that’s so fair i’m falling so heavily back on my taylor swift phase and it’s actually a vibe
oooooo i adore classics and the greek myths sm i’m such a classics girly but my actual knowledge of the myths is so subpar 😭 it’s not ok like i always love learning and the myths but my actual general knowledge isn’t great
i would say (other than the trojan war purely bc of some favourite characters which is rooted in reality so imma say it doesn’t count) either theseus and sciron bc of its pure absurdity or icarus bc i love romanticising it (and im a marauders girly) or anything dionysian bc love that man
but honestly anything i can recognise in day to day life bc im a nerd and i like having excuses to be nerdy
you??
HEYY (you +your theme is so cool) what's your fav song rn??
HI *waves*
ahh you’re so sweet <3
your theme is absolutely adorable it’s so cosy like lying in bed when it’s raining at 3am reading
hmmmm i would say obsessed by olivia rodrigo but all of the new guys spilled songs are *chefs kiss*
you?
and what’s your favourite tv show/movie/book?
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I was thinking, what if while at Y/N's house the boys end up finding the Grimm Brothers/Original stories they're based off. Like the original Snow White or Little Mermaid by Hans Christian Anderson. And Y/N admitting that they were more familiar with those versions than the Disney version was expecting to be skinned alive when they first arrived in Twisted Wonderland
I’m so so fucking pumped for this ask because I’m a huge NERD and I know the original stories so well. Fairytales and folk tales and mythology are one of my special interests you cut straight to my heart thank you anon. Also you didn’t specify what universe this is so I’m putting it in the our world au and if you want me to do the other characters I will GLADLY do them I adore these. ++ I will probably do Idia reacting to Greek myths sometime soon but my brain is honestly kinda mush and narrowing down just one myth is a little hard but I’ll get back to it
This Isn’t How Our Story Ends
Characters: Riddle, Trey, Leona, Ruggie, Azul, Jade, Floyd, Kalim, Jamil, Vil, Rook, Idia, Malleus, Lilia
Warning: the original tales of each story are dark. As such, there will be mentions of mature topics such as death, poisoning, drowning, murder, insanity, and more. Read at your own discretion.
Cw// spoilers for chapters 1-5, swearing, dark topics and themes.
“What’s this?” He had asked innocently, holding up the book in question.
“Huh? Oh, that’s…” Yuu thought of how to explain this, “Well, it’s a story. Kinda. Um…well…”
Hamlet
It’s fairly well known that the story of Hamlet is the origin of The Lion King (although interestingly enough it seems there’s a real life historical parallel with the story of Sundiata Keita) thus Leona and Ruggie’s interests in this particular story may wain. Shakespeare is dreadfully dry at times and best performed live, which means…Movie night! For this particular iteration I would recommend watching a live taping rather than a film adaptation because otherwise you just miss out on like, half the important shit. Also if you haven’t read or seen hamlet there’s a lovely novelized adaptation that actually adds MORE content and makes it very fun
Leona sat back as he watched the actors take the final bow. Ruggie was nervously sitting beside him, shifting from side to side like he couldn’t quite get comfortable.
“They all died?”
“Yep.” Yuu responded dispassionately.
“And the uncle…” Leona started, eyes looking over everything in the room except Yuu and Ruggie, “In the, uh…”
“That’s the king of beasts, in your world.” They said, “It’s…yeah.”
“He killed for the throne?” Ruggie asked, somewhat surprised.
“I mean, Leona tried to kill Malleus for a game, I’m not sure why you’re surprised.”
“I wasn’t gonna kill ‘im.” Leona grumbled, “Just put him out of commission for a while. Not tryina start a war or anything…”
“Okay, you attempted to maybe kill him.”
“That’s not- whatever.” He sighed, “So, I’m the uncle. Is Ruggie the guy who got stabbed? The…sheriff? Or whatever?”
“I guess in this analogy, yes.”
“Gross.” Ruggie wrinkled his nose, “I’d rather be the girl.”
“Ophelia?”
“Is that the one that drowned?”
“Yes?” Yuu worried.
“Yeah, her. Anything to get away from this analogy.”
Leona snickered and ruffled Ruggie’s hair, earning him a harsh smack to the forearm which he ignored.
“Did the king of beasts have his own sheriff? According to your world?”
“Uh, he had the hyenas. And Zazu, I guess, but none were exactly loyal.”
“Did the king of beasts kill his nephew?” Ruggie blurted out.
“Nah, but he tried. Instead, the nephew killed him.”
Leona wrinkled his nose, joking in a deadpan tone, “Guess it’s time to off the little furball back home.” When neither Yuu nor Ruggie laughed, he frowned, “You know I’m joking, right? I wouldn’t kill my nephew.”
“You tried to kill me.” Ruggie said.
“And me.” Yuu agreed.
“That was ONE TIME-“
The Little Mermaid
Fun facts the little mermaid was written by Hans Christian Andersen and depending on the historical lens you like to apply was maybe gay. Also, the sea witch doesn’t have a name and doesn’t have eels which means Azul and the twins will be sorely disappointed. Anyway the original story is an angst fest because Hans was an emo at his core and the princess dies at the end
Azul stared at the pages of the book as he slowly closed it. He adjusted his glasses, looking to the twins as he finished. The two looked sick, wearing grim expressions. Floyd stared to his shoes while Jade looked to Azul.
The Octavinelle dorm leader cleared his throat, then took a sip of his water. After a few moments, he turned to Yuu.
“This was a deeply unpleasant experience.”
Yuu snorted a little and nodded, “Fair enough. It’s honestly what I thought was gonna happen to me when I made that deal with you.”
All three of them looked shocked and stared at Yuu like they’d grown three heads.
“Yuu…” Jade started tentatively.
“You know turning to sea foam is like, the worst punishment you can get in the Coral Sea, right?” Floyd cut in, eyes blunt.
Yuu’s expression dropped. They turned and checked each of the trio to see if they were joking and…no, no that’s real.
“What?”
Jade stared at them in deep contemplation, before piping up, “I suppose you wouldn’t know that, it isn’t something the kingdom advertises, per say…”
“But it’s something almost every merman knows.” Azul finished, “This version of the sea witch is…cruel. Unusually so, to sentence a mermaid to that hell.”
“And a princess, nonetheless.” Jade agreed, “Incredibly vile.”
“‘M real glad that’s now our real history. Just somethin the land folk made up, although it’s still rude.” Floyd said, taking the book, “It’s a real stupid deal anyway, the sea witch didn’t even get anything from that. And she didn’t even have any eels!”
“Maybe it was a different sea witch? I dunno man, it’s honestly kinda what I thought I’d be in for.”
“Is that why you were so fearful when we intervened with your proceedings?” Jade asked, looking somewhat amused, “Prefect, we wouldn’t be that cruel.”
“I mean, we could.” Floyd leaned in, teeth sparkling white as the sun shone off them. He could have given a lens flare. “But we like you, so we won’t.”
“We couldn’t be that cruel.” Azul said firmly, “The fate of becoming sea foam is certainly no joke. We wouldn’t dream of it.”
Yuu was a bit flushed in their embarrassment, turning away to mumble something.
“What was that?” Azul hummed
“I said I feel stupid.”
“Sorry, one more time, I couldn’t hear you.” Jade grinned, leaning in closer.
“I Said,” they turned toward the trio, “That now I feel stupid.”
The three just smirked smugly back and Yuu felt like maybe they wished they’d turned to sea foam (not really)
1001 Arabian Nights
The original story of Aladdin and his magic lamp was honestly very different from the Disney film. Beyond some basic plot points (princess in a castle being in love with a street boy, a genie, etc) the story is virtually different. The main apparent thing being that there’s not one, but TWO genies, and the evil schemer is a wizard pretending to be Aladdin’s uncle, not a vizier taking advantage of the king. On the whole, I think Jamil and Kalim would be interested but wholly unimpressed. Oh, also a lot of murder.
Jamil hummed as he looked at the last page, tilting his head to the side as he thought.
“Aladdin doesn’t…seem like a good person.” Kalim said, staring at the book Jamil was holding. “He just…killed someone?”
“Granted, it was to save the princess,” Jamil began, looking to Kalim for only a moment. He gazed back down, “I can understand something like that. However…”
“There’s a lot of…slavery in this story.” Kalim finished, messing with his fingers, “I don’t like that.”
“The Asim Family-“
“I would never want you to do something you don’t want to.” Kalim said solemnly.
Jamil went silent, looking out the window. He tapped his finger against the edge of the book, lost in thought. “I still do, though. There are plenty of things I do for you that I don’t like.”
There was a silence as Yuu looked between them. Kalim looked hurt, and ashamed. Jamil looked…carefully put together. But deeply uncomfortable.
Yuu cautiously reached forward, taking the book from Jamil, who didn’t acknowledge it but did allow them to take it.
“I’m quite interested in this Roc bird that’s mentioned,” Jamil said suddenly, “It is to be the master of all genies?”
“Maybe it commands Azul.” Yuu joked, thinking back to Jamil’s words just before he’d overblotted.
Jamil glowered in return, but this did earn a laugh from Kalim.
The vice housewarden turned to contemplate the coffee table rather deeply, then murmured, “This tale does ring similar to our history, but rather different. It’s…odd. Like they were cut from the same cloth.”
Yuu shrugged, “It’s just a story. Nobody really got hurt.” They assured when Kalim looked momentarily uncomfortable again.
Snow White
The Grimm telling of Snow White is also fairly similar to the Disney telling, with the exception of the Evil Queen being WAY more persistent in the murder thing. She attempts to kill Snow three times. The first by cinching her corset so tight that she passed out, but it was unable to kill her. She tries again by gifting her a poisoned hair comb, which again fails to kill her. The third time, the poisoned apple, is the charm. She bites the apple, goes into a coma, glass coffin blah blah blah. Prince finds her coffin, decides she’s a real babe and takes her and the coffin home with him. On the journey back, one of the prince’s servants trips and knocks the coffin into something, which somehow manages to dislodge the piece of apple in the princess’s throat and bring her back to life. Yay! Then she tries to kill her again, fails, and is punished to dance in red hot slippers until she dies. Yay…?
Vil and Rook sat on opposite sides of the couch. Rook was staring pointedly at the wall while Vil was staring directly at the hunter.
“It’s quite interesting-“
“Not a word out of you.” Vil cut him off, turning his attention to his nails instead.
Yuu sat across from them, snapping the book shut to put it away, “Maybe this wasn’t a great idea.”
“You think?”
Rook looked like he wanted to say something, a finger up as though he were conducting an invisible choir.
“Rook Hunt. Keep your mouth shut, you fucking traitor.”
“You said you wished for me to be true in my heart!” He defended.
Yuu took this as the moment to leave the room, clutching the book close,
“Spudling, where are you going? Come back here.”
Yuu squeaked nervously before coming back to stand in front of him, a sheepish smile on their face, “Hmm?”
Vil looked them up and down, before leaning forward to straighten Yuu’s clothes, “Spudling, is this why you were so nervous when Trappola and Spade ate that apple tart?”
“I honestly kinda thought you killed them.” Yuu admitted with a titter.
Vil’s eyebrows shot up as he glanced to make eye contact with them, “Do you think I’m so cruel?”
“I didn’t know what to think.” They said honestly, hands reaching to stop Vil’s from moving, “All I knew was that Rook calls you the king of poisons, and my friends suddenly collapsed after eating apples. Two and two together lead to poisoning.”
Rook began to laugh loudly, then coughed to cover it and continued to not look at Vil.
Vil frowned, “I would never kill anyone, Spudling-“
“Except Neige.”
“NEIGE KNOWS WHAT HE FUCKING DID-“
Sleeping Beauty
Honestly this one is too graphic for me to explain in detail but let’s just say that the prince is even worse in this one than in the Disney version. Consent isn’t even a question for him he does not care. Also the cure in this version was kind of similar to snow white’s, in which a fragment of the spindle is stuck in Briar Rose’s finger and once it is dislodged she’s freed from the curse. Seriously though, wouldn’t recommend looking this one up to anyone who’s faint of heart. It’s seriously gross.
Malleus and Lilia don’t seem to surprised as you finish the tale. In fact, they don’t even bother to keep talking about it, and it’s totally not because the author of this doesn’t want to get into how absolutely disgusting it is that the 100 year old 16 year old has two kids that she definitely didn’t want, or how fucking gross the prince is to do what he did, it’s because they’re old as fuck and already kinda knew.
Lilia just goes back to setting your kitchen on fire while Malleus decides he’s going to read every other fairy story except this one because this one sucked and his grandma didn’t even turn into a dragon :/
Alice in Wonderland
Strictly speaking, the 1950’s animated film of Alice in Wonderland is not all that different from its inspiration. Most story beats are faithful to the original, with the exception of tweedle dee and tweedle dum, which actually appear in the sequel Alice through the looking glass. It appears that within Twisted Wonderland’s universe, while there is some misinterpretation of the Queen of Hearts herself, the information given in the film is well known based off of the comments given in the ‘chats’ with each character. It is unknown whether the Tim burton films have any bearing on twisted wonderland’s history, though based off of Riddle’s design and character it appears it may have been a source of inspiration at the least. All of this is to say that none of this particular story would be much of a surprise to any of the characters, as for them it’s very grounded in reality. This isn’t to say there wouldn’t be a surprise, though….
Riddle had been quietly sitting on the couch reading a book for about an hour now. It seemed as though he was nearing the end, and he looked both confused and enraptured by it.
“What’s that?” Yuu asked.
Riddle looked up, and with a carefully crafted blank face he held up the book so they could read the cover.
Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
“Ah,” Yuu said nervously, “Good read?”
Riddle tilted his head, “You never told me there were stories of twisted wonderland in your world.”
“That’s cause it’s not twisted wonderland.” Yuu defended, “That’s just regular wonderland.”
“The difference being?” Riddle asked, tone taking on a biting edge.
“It isn’t twisted?” They tried, shrugging, “I didn’t think it would interest you, honestly. It’s a lot of the same stuff as history class.”
Trey took this EXACT moment to walk into the room. He took one look at Riddle’s twitching eyebrow and realized that, oh shit, time to intervene. “What’s going on here?” He asked tentatively.
“This- ah…” Riddle took in a deep breath, trying to calm himself, “This world has stories of Wonderland. Yuu neglected to mention this, in my opinion, rather imperative information.”
Yuu shrugged, “It’s just a children’s story. What could be so important?”
“Perhaps the fact that someone travels to and from Wonderland?” Riddle bit back, “Or perhaps that if your world has information on ours, then it isn’t fiction?”
Yuu blanched for a moment before calming themself. “Riddle,” they began, frowning, “I’m sorry. I didn’t think of that. But I have a very…different look on it.”
Riddle raised an eyebrow, urging Yuu to continue. Trey in the midst of this sat down beside Riddle, taking the book from him.
“This was written by someone named Charles Dodgeson, also known as Lewis Carroll. He wrote this for a trio of girls he used to tutor and babysit.” Yuu began, sitting down on the coffee table in front of Riddle and Trey. “He would often take them on canoe rides and tell them stories, making it up as he went along. He favored one particular girl, named Alice Liddell, and favored to write the story about her.”
Riddle looked unimpressed and confused at the same time, “But-“
“Riddle.” Trey said softly, “Let them continue.”
“Dodgeson was eventually fired by the Liddell family due to what was described as a ‘family affair’, the nature of which was never known. After that, for a bit of money he printed the story and sold it, then made wrote a sequel called ‘through the looking glass’.”
Riddle and Trey sat in silence before Riddle piped up, “Through the Looking Glass?”
“Mhmm.” Yuu said, “Alice returns to wonderland after walking through an enchanted looking glass. The rest of the adventure is similar to the first, changing from moment to moment.”
Riddle stared, fists curled in a ball and shaking. “So there’s a way home?”
Yuu looked surprised, “N-no, Riddle, it’s just a stor-“
“IT’S NOT JUST A STORY!” He cried, “It has to be real, you see that don’t you? You got to our world through a mirror, we got stuck here through one too. So there’s got to be another way back! Alice- Alice is real. She had to have gone….” He began to settle down, eyes filling with unshod tears.
Trey looked between Yuu and Riddle, “He’s right. It…would make sense. And…that’s a pen name, isn’t it? How do we know Alice didn’t write that?”
Yuu looked lost, staring down at the sobbing Riddle, who was murmuring various incoherent thoughts all in a long string.
“I’m so, so sorry…” Yuu said quietly, “We…I didn’t….I’m sorry. We can look, okay? I’ll do some research. We’ll get you home…”
#twisted wonderland#twst headcanons#twisted wonderland headcanons#azul ashengrotto#twst#jade leech#floyd leech#twst mc#riddle rosehearts#leona kingscholar#ruggie bucchi#trey clover#kalim al asim#jamil viper#malleus draconia#lilia vanrouge#vil schoenheit#rook hunt#pomefiore#heartslabyul#savanaclaw#diasomnia#scarabia#octavinelle
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Autism Headcanons
I really like headcanoning characters as autistic, because often autistic people written by nt people are stereotypes (with the exception of Sherlock holmes) so seeing characters who unintentionally relatable to autistics is so important! I have a lot of reasons why I hc Walt Strickler and Newt Scamander as autistic, but maybe I'm just projecting. But look at the concepts! (Some of these may be Canon. Shh let me infodump)
Edward (Edward Scissorhands): Isolated man-made sweetheart with scissors for hands who is incredibly gentle but doesn't understand Society™️. He moves robotically, is mainly nonverbal, doesnt understand common social rules, such as the "if you found a briefcase full of money, what would you do?" Since Autistic people like me need very good reasons to follow rules, and Edward doesnt understand how giving your loved ones found money is "wrong". He uses his "disability" to channel his creativity in his gardening, hedge-trimming, and haircutting. But he was willing to give it all up just to fit in! I have seen many emotional movies, but this is truly the only one thst made me sob out loud, because of how much i could relate. Hes ME. also Tim Burton himself is at least speculated to be on the spectrum, and many see the movie as a whole as an allegory for autism. This doesnt mean that i believe the scissors THEMSELVES are a symbol for autism, because even if edward didnt have them he still exhibits very autistic traits.
Sherlock Holmes: genius detective who's neutral good, physically fights pedos, drinks respect women juice, gay-asexual, and does Crack in his spare time. At the time, nobody knew what autism was! But sherlock is so clearly autism-coded its hard to ignore. Im talking about every adaptation Ever. My first exposure to Sherlock Holmes was the BBC series (granted, i know its not necessarily the most well-written adaptation, but listen) and i was SHOOK at how autistic he was. Even in the novels hes percieved as keeping his things cluttered, but he has a purpose in his clutter, and organizes his thoughts. He goes off on tangents before going back to his original point. Basil of Baker Street, basically Sherlock Holmes in Disneys the Great Mouse Detective, VISIBLY STIMS ONSCREEN. anyway nobody needed convincing on that one but yeah.
Newt Scamander (Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them): kind, soft wizard who keeps magical creatures in a briefcase. He's soft-spoken, drops eye-content mid conversation, and PURSUES A LIFE OF CONSERVING MAGICAL CREATURES. HES THE ONLY ONE OF HIS PROFESSION IN THE WORLD. ITS ALL RIGHT THERE.
Fiver (Watership Down): a runty, anxious rabbit with the power of prophecy. the theory of Fiver being autistic isnt originally mine (look through my reblogs) but i fully accept it. Now, its debatable whether autism is a Thing among animals or if it presents itself another way, but then again this is fiction. Where to begin with Fiver? Hes based off the Greek Myth of Cassandra, who was blessed with divination but cursed to never be believed. Growing Up With Autism. I cant explain it but you Autistic readers will understand. And simply look at his character!
Erik Destler (the Phantom of the Opera, Phantom): disfigured savant, expert illusionist, lives in the basement of an opera house. In Phantom by Susan Kay he's portrayed as a savant, and while not all savants are born that way, one out of ten autistics are also autistic savant. His hyperfixation on the macabre, his immense creative drive, its all there knock yourselves out.
Walt Strickler: a devious shapeshifting idiot with genius energy, who drops sick dad jokes, huge history nerd, a minority in his own country while at the same time belonging to no country. This might be just me projecting but I thought it was genius. There's also the widely accepted history theory that the Changeling Myth was based off early perceptions of Autism, and whether this suggests that all the Changelings in ToA are autistic is, I believe, false, since in Trollhunters, changelings are made, but autists are Born, not Made. But Strickler is by far my favorite to fixate on! He's such a good concept as an autistic character because he doesn't fall into the stereotypes that intentionally-written autists do. He's sassy, sarcastic, and is simply UNBEARABLE with puns. I view his Villainous Actions™️ of clicking the pen and sitting on tables as stimming or autistic habits, and his odd collection of books. Despite him not being human himself, he has a WILD fascination with human history and culture, which is a better hyperfixation for an autistic character than He Likes Trains and Math. Strickler also has the general Vibe of someone who's constantly holding back from going completely Feral and Rabid. Absolute autism energy
Wow sorry for the dump. Maybe I'm just desperate for real representation ahaha. I'll make an ADHD list soon, with the help of my ADHD expert friend, so if any are missing here, they may be there
#Autism#Autism headcanons#Edward Scissorhands#Sherlock Holmes#Newt Scamander#Fiver#Hrairoo#Watership Down#Walter Strickler#Trollhunters#Let me know if I missed any#Erik Destler#The Phantom of the Opera#Susan Kay
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im currently a revival hellenic, though i am looking into recon for the future. so, either (or both!) works!
-anon looking for queer helpol resources :)
Welcome back, anon. So, let's get down to business!
As always, my number one recommendation is theoi.com. It's focused on translations of myths, hymns, and so forth and separated by deity. In there, you can find stories like that of Iphis & Ianthe, the dual-gendered deity Hermaphroditos, and information about male loves of Zeus and Poseidon, among many, many others. Lots of information to look over. I adore this website, frankly.
The second place I'm gonna recommend is the queer section of @jasper-grimoire, which has been lovingly compiled by myself. You can search "section: hellenism" within those pages to be brought specifically to Hellenism-based queer posts. I'll compile some bits at the end of this answer.
Thirdly, I'm going to recommend the book Queer Magic by Tomas Prower. It goes into queer history and mythology by putting a magnifying glass over the time periods the author examines. While some sections are more questionable in legitimacy than others, there are in-text citations and even some spots about specific deities. The Greek and Roman section specifically talks about Apollo, Athena/Minerva, Baubo and Iambe, and Iphis. There's also a fascinating section about Plato's Symposium that's worth a quick read.
Finally, I'm going to recommend reading a bunch (and I do mean A BUNCH) of scholarly articles on queer folks in ancient Greece. I signed up for an Academia.edu account just so I could read people's research. Remember that these are written by people, just like theoi.com and Queer Magic and all of the posts in my queer section, so don't take any one person's paper as infallible.
Posts of note from my online grimoire (historical substance may vary):
Deities, Saints, Crystals, and Herbs For All Your Gay Magic Needs
Transgender Witchery
Gay & MLM Correspondences
Lesbian & WLW Correspondences
Gender and the Body in Greek and Roman Sculpture Excerpt
Gender-Neutral and Non-Sexual Ways to Worship Aphrodite
Me talking about Athena from a nonbinary perspective
An excerpt from Artemis by Stephanie Budin about Athena
Aphroditos
An analysis of why people perceive Artemis as a lesbian and what her status as a virgin goddess meant in Ancient Greece
Ares, God of Feminism
Leto as the patron of trans people
Artemis belongs to no one
I hope this helps, anon! Feel free to come chat if you'd like to get my personal practice's perspective on something!
~Jasper
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