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A Full Timeline of Iggy Azalea's Beefs, From Azealia Banks to Halsey
A Full Timeline of Iggy Azalea's Beefs, From Azealia Banks to Halsey
Although she hasn’t released an album in three years, Iggy Azalea’s name hasn’t been forgotten. Known for causing controversy — usually having to do with racial appropriation — the Australian rapper has beefed with everyone from Azealia Banks to Snoop Dogg.
We put together a complete history of all of her celebrity feuds from 2011 all the way up to Azalea’s latest beef with Halsey. Check out the timeline below.
September 9, 2011
Days before the release of her debut mixtape Ignorant Art Iggy releases a video for her song “D.R.U.G.S.” In the video she sings over the beat of Kendrick Lamar’s ‘Look Out for Detox’, “When the relay starts, Im a runaway slave… Master, hitting on the past gotta spit it like a pastor.” This is an allusion to the lyric from his song, “When the relay starts, I’m a runaway slave.”
September 13, 2011
Iggy begins one sided beef with Kreayshawn on Twitter. She later responded and retweeted more negative statements.
October 9, 2011
Iggy claims that getting booed offstage at Canal Room in New York was the driving force for her career. After the show, she took to Twitter to address the alleged female haters. “It was kinda awkward cause this girl stood in the front row my entire set screaming ‘your pussy suckssss!!!’ ! Lol #whyyoumad.” The video from the show that night tells a different story however or a particularly happy crowd with only one male booing her at the 6:26 mark.
October 19, 2011
In a tweet that was later deleted Azealia Banks wrote, “how sexy is iggy azalea?? it’s kind of ridiculous … *tugs collar to let out steam*.” Starting out as a girl crush the feud with Banks will become one of Azalea’s worst.
October 20, 2011
Azealia Banks tweeted, “once wrote a song called ‘Barbie Shit,’ but nicki minaj blew up like the week after so i took it down, lololz. i felt corny. Also wrote a song called P-U-$-$-Y before Iggy Azalea.” Iggy responded with, “its NEVER been about who did it first… its ALWAYS been about who did it better.” Banks retweeted Iggy’s insult and wrote back, “i know right?? lmfaooo. haha.” And the beef begins.
In an interview not long after the tweet, Iggy reflects on the tweet claiming Banks said, “I’m next level, I had a song about being a Barbie before Nicki Minaj had a song about being a Barbie. Here’s the link to my song. And fuck Iggy Azalea, I had a song called ‘Pussy’ before she ever did. Here’s a link to my song. It’s better.” …essentially nothing like the original tweet.
October 21, 2011
Notorious for picking fights with anyone from Kedrick Lamar to Zayn Malik, Azealia Banks subtweets about Iggy. “I smell beef.”
December 2, 2011
When someone tweeted “Iggy Azelia Banks iz weird” Banks was fast to respond with “We’re two COMPLETELY different people hun. :-.” Iggy did not respond.
December 9, 2011
Iggy announces her new album’s title, The New Classic. Possibly directed toward Banks.
December 19, 2011
A$AP Rocky and Banks are spotted holding hands in New York. This puts fuel in the fire with Banks who grew up with A$AP and his crew in Harlem.
January 13, 2012
Iggy responds to claims about feud with Banks, “I have no deal with her. I don’t know her personally. I said it about Kreayshawn, too. If I don’t know you personally, how could I have a problem with you? What would I have a problem about? I don’t know that person … I don’t know you. I truly don’t understand it. I just keep making my own music, and I’m deaf to that. What is there to say? Nothing.”
January 17, 2012
Azealia Banks tweets, “Iggy Azalea’s hair looks really great in her new video. How long do you all reckon that hair is? 40″ in?”
January 18, 2012
Azealia Banks reportedly signs to Universal.
January 27, 2012
Iggy told Billboard that she signed to Interscope saying, “I’m super happy about it.” She made statements about other labels, mentioning Def Jam specifically, claiming they would’ve made her their “guinea pig.” She later claimed that Jimmy Iovine called her “the new Tupac.” She later tweeted, “Get used to me + jimmy [Iovine] smashing shit, cause thats the plan.” Keep in mind Interscope Records is owned by Universal, this will be relevant later.
January 31, 2012
Azealia Banks tweets, “You can never be a young BLACK girl enjoying her life and having fun. There’s always some shady, dishonest cracker looking to assassinate your character. No offense to anyone.” and later, “Ok. i apologize to anyone who was offended by that tweet. I shouldn’t generalize my personal issues. forgive me.” and later, “Why am i being criminalized for being myself?”
February 7, 2012
Iggy is the first female to be featured on the cover of XXL magazine for their Freshman List. Azealia was not having any of it, tweeting, “Iggy Azalea on the XXL freshman list is all wrong. How can you endorse a white woman who called herself a ‘runaway slave master’? Sorry guys, I’m pro black girl. I’m not anti white girl, but I’m also not here for any1 outside of my culture trying to trivialize very serious aspects of it.”
Iggy later tweets “You can’t block my blessings! Today I’m celebrating! Get with it or kick rocks!”
March 2, 2012
Azealia Banks announces she’s signed to Interscope/Polydor, take a guess who is also coincidentally signed to the label.
March 10, 2012
On DJ Drama’s radio show in Atlanta Iggy is asked about Azealia’s reaction to the XXL cover, “This is my day and it’s my achievement.” She said, “You have to work to have your own achievements, with all due respect.” TI who is now Iggy’s boss adds “Strategically if she really cares about a freshmen cover maybe she could hope that she’ll suck enough to get shelved and then next year when the freshmen cover comes back around, maybe she’ll still be a freshman.”
March 12, 2012
Iggy writes an open letter apologizing for her “runaway slave-master” lyric “It was a tacky and careless thing to say and if you are offended, I am sorry. Sometimes we get so caught up in our art and creating or trying to push boundaries, we don’t stop to think how others may be hurt by it. In this situation, I am guilty of doing that and I regret not thinking things through more.”
March 25, 2012
Azealia Bank’s releases alleged dis track about Iggy called “Fuck Up the Fun.”
March 27, 2012
Iggy’s then-suspected boyfriend A$AP Rocky says, “They got to cut it out. That’s some bullshit. Iggy is not racist. Trust me. Trust me. That’s petty for Azealia because … don’t pick on her cause she white. That’s a low blow.”
May 18, 2012
Rumors of Iggy being dropped by Interscope surface. Iggy claims that she was never on Interscope just manged by them despite a tweet on February 7 2012 that says “im managed and signed to Interscope.” Many had suspicions that Azealia was behind it.
April 23, 2013
Iggy shares the news of signing to Def Jam on Twitter. Take a look at a January 27, 2012 Billboard interview where she claimed Def Jam would’ve made her their “guinea pig.”
June 18, 2013
Iggy is questioned by radio host Sway Calloway about possible plastic surgery. She responds with, “Yes, eyelashes are real. I’ve heard a bunch of crazy things: that it’s my underpants. I heard I have implants, I hear all kinds of crazy stuff. It’s my flesh. It’s my butt.”
June 2013
Fans begin to uncover old racist Tweets and Iggy receives massive backlash. She claims that it is unfair because she was able to “joke” but because of her celebrity she is no longer able to. See a few of the tweets below:
September 13, 2013
When asked about using a “black voice” in an interview for the cover of Complex she responded with, “If you’re mad about it and you’re a black person then start a rap career and give it a go, too. I’m not taking anyone’s spot, so make yourself a mixtape. Or maybe if you’re black, start singing like a country singer and be a white person. I don’t know. Why is it such a big deal?”
May 15, 2014
Tyler the Creator is asked on 106 & Park which female artists he’d sleep with. When prompted about Iggy he says, “She stinks. She got shots in her thump. I want real booty. You feel me?” Iggy later tweeted, “Tyler the creator is beyond immature. I’ve always believed you had something more to offer the world, Shame to see you be so rude,” she said. “People that make enemies and talk shit about ppl they’ve never even said hi to trip me out. I see it all the time… Strange world.” Iggy’s then-boyfriend Nick Yong also had something to say: “If ppl dnt hate then it want be [email protected] smell good to me”. Tyler apologized in his typical fashion with: “SUCCESSFUL, TROLL SUCCESSFUL, IGGY I DIDNT MEAN TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS.”
June 6, 2014
Iggy criticizes Lorde in an interview with Billboard for her collaborative performance with the surviving members of Nirvana at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony. Iggy said, “Nothing against her, but I think when you’re doing a tribute to someone that’s dead, generally it should be the person’s peer,” Azalea commented. “Lorde is not Kurt Cobain’s peer. No matter if she killed the performance or not, I just don’t think it’s appropriate.” Lorde responded with: “I enjoyed it. I had a good time. That’s all that mattered.” Iggy later apologized on Twitter, “I consider lorde my very talented friend. I find it ironic 2 girls tell the media theyre full of shit & weeks later supposedly I dislike her.”
May 26, 2014
Love & Hip Hop star K. Michelle tweets, “How can you be from another country and rap like you’re from Memphis, TN?”
June 29, 2014
In Nicki Minaj’s acceptance speech for Best Female Artist at the BETs she allegedly took shots at Iggy who had been criticized for suspicion of using ghost writers. Minaj said, “What I want the world to know about Nicki Minaj is when you hear Nicki Minaj spit, Nicki Minaj wrote it.”
July 3, 2014
Iggy responded to the speech in a screenshot of a letter from her notes page on Instagram. She wrote: “I have to say the general explosion of pettiness online in the last few days is hard to ignore and honestly…lame. If I had won the BET award, that would’ve been great but it wasn’t my year and I don’t mind – so you shouldn’t either. Generally speaking, I’m unbothered by anything that ‘happened’ at the BET Awards and just feel worn out by everyone trying to make me have wars with people all the time. Anyone who wishes me well is welcome in my life, and those who don’t can’t get any more of my time. I hate to see everyone exhausting themselves on my behalf over things that I’m still not 100 percent sure even exist and don’t matter. Just let it go.” Nicki later backtracked and responded with “The media puts words in my mouth all the time and this is no different. I will always take a stance on women writing b/c I believe in us!” on Twitter. “
July 9 2014
In the wake of the BET Awards, Madd Mary releases direct dis track, “Eff Iggy.” Notable lines include: “Ignorant, impudent child of wealth and white privilege who benefits from the oppressive agenda of white supremacists,” “You just too damn afraid to engage in intelligent conversation about misappropriation of hip-hop,” “Prejudiced trash, send you back to Aussie land strapped for cash.”
July 10 2014
Allegedly Iggy posted a photo of her, Drake, TI and B.O.B captioned “Me and Ma Nigg’s.” Public Enemy’s Chuck D tweeted, “a new straight path to slavery Here comes a endorsed sanctioned CORPlantation artist with A line straight out of 1853.” After it was discovered that she never captioned the photo that Chuck D wrote: “True or not the IGGY thing is a reality when you call yourself with the slaveass term that was branded on skin & today marketed, sht happens.”
September 24 2014
In an interview Rah Digga calls Iggy out, “Don’t come to America and try to convince me that you’re Gangsta Boo … Personally, I don’t consider [Iggy] Hip Hop. I listen to her album. Everything that I hear on there is everything but that. And I feel like Hip Hop is Hip Hop.” Iggy responded to the comment on Twitter with, “I honestly don’t really mind if I’m described as rap or pop. My passion is purely making music and entertaining.”
October 12 2014
A photo of Azalea without makeup went viral and Snoop Dogg even joined in. He posted this photo on his Instagram and the feud began.
Iggy responded to the Instagram with a string of tweets calling him out for being two faced and about how her bodyguard “stopped the fire truck that saved your friends life in canada when he almost burnt down the hotel.” Shortly after, TMZ ran a story about Iggy being “fuming mad over Snoop’s insta slam.” The two went back and forth with Azalea tweeting her feelings while Snoop continued to post memes on his Instagram clearly not bothered by the incident.
October 12, 2014
Iggy and her friend are followed into a grocery store by paparazzi. Clearly extremely angry her friend spits on the pap. The photographer going on to call the spit assault because he may contract AIDS or Ebola Iggy says, “Okay, I hope you have Ebola. I hope you die. You’re a fucking cunt.” The fight continues and Iggy even tried to ram him with her shopping cart calling the grocery store a “private place.”
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October 15 2014
After a call from Iggy’s manager TI, Snoop squashed the beef in a video.
October 27 2014
Snoop is asked by a paparazzi if he will ever collaborate with Iggy. He responds singing the chorus of “IDFWU.”
November 18 2014
Eminem releases a dis track about Iggy where he jokes about raping her. Iggy responds in a tweet saying, “im bored of the old men threatening young women as entertainment trend and much more interested in the young women getting $ trend. zzzz.”
December 3 2014
Unlike the majority of the members of the hip-hop community, Iggy is absent at protests supporting the Black Lives Matter movement and does not speak on the issue of police killings of unarmed black men. Azealia Banks is the first to call her out on it, “its funny to see people Like Igloo Australia silent when these things happen… Black Culture is cool, but black issues sure aren’t huh?” Iggy subtweets, “we’ve all read the script 49584068408540 billion times now, find a new game plan.”
December 5 2014
Iggy is nominated for Record of the Year, Best New Artist, Best Pop/Duo Performance, and Best Rap Album for the 2015 Grammys.
December 18 2014
Azealia Banks calls out Iggy during a Hot 97 interview for appropriating black culture as well as discussing race relations in America eloquently.
December 19 2014
Iggy goes on a Twitter spree. “Special msg for banks:” she tweeted, “There are many black artists succeeding in all genres. The reason you haven’t is because of your piss poor attitude.” She went on to call Banks a “bigot.”
December 20 2014
Q-Tip tweeted attempted to enlighten Iggy in a string of tweets one of them read “@IZZYAZELEA Hip-hop is a artistic and socio-political movement/culture that sprang from the disparate ghettos of NY in the early 70’s.” He goes on to discuss how the connection between hip-hop, social and political issues will never be detached. Iggy did not respond.
An anonymous hacking group claimed that they would leak rumored sex tape pictures if Iggy did not apologize for her actions. They wrote, “You are guilty of misappropriating black culture, insulting peaceful protesters, and making light of Eric Garner’s death”. Their account was then suspended.
December 22 2014
Iggy chimes in in a string of tweets stating, “i find it patronizing to assume i have no knowledge of something I’m influenced by, but I’ve also grown up with strangers assuming that.” She goes on to say, “how you feel about me blending musical genres together doesn’t bother me, no one is making you support or buy pop rap albums.”
January 30 2015
Iggy has another Twitter freak out over some unapproved shots for her upcoming shoe line in collaboration with Steve Madden. One of the tweets read, “Tainted with these God awful images that Steve madden took appon themselves to create and share without my knowledge. Gross gross gross.” She later apologized on Instagram claiming she loves the company and “artists clash sometimes.”
February 8 2015
Probably the most random of all of her feuds… Papa Johns Pizza! Apparently her delivery man sent her personal phone number around so she tweeted at the chain and they responded lightheartedly and Iggy was not having it. “I don’t think data breach is funny.” She continued, “I expect you to contact me to explain how you are going to rectify your breach of my personal information in a satisfactory and professional way or lawsuit will be filed.”
February 18 2015
After returning home from vacation to see people criticizing her body in paparazzi photos Iggy announces that she will no longer run her social media accounts.
June 29 2015
Iggy called out Britney Spears and her team for their lack of promotion for the duos collaboration on “Pretty Girls”. She tweeted, “its difficult to send a song up the charts without additional promo and tv performance etc. unfortunately I’m just featured”. Britney responded on Instagram posting a photo that read “DONT LET IDIOTS RUIN YOUR DAY.”
August 10 2015
ComicBook NOW! tweeted ‘The Last Airbender’ is to movies what Iggy Azaelia is to music.’ Of course Iggy could not help herself and responded with “think its another one of those jokes only middle aged men who get boners over comic book movies understand.”
September 16 2015
In a Hot 97 interview, TI said that he no longer speaks to his former protégé Iggy. He says he walked away from the relationship after Q-Tip tried to teach Iggy about cultural appropriation in hip-hop music and her response was not ideal. Iggy responded by saying, “I don’t think the radio is the right place to talk about personal issues.”
October 12 2015
When Rita Ora named Iggy as a potential collaborator for a Lady Marmalade remake Azalea quickly shut her down tweeting, “Please leave me out of the whole Lady Marmalade conversation. I have nothing to do with ritas ideas & agree it should be left alone. Thanks.”
November 29 2015
Erykah Badu hosts the Soul Train Music Awards and throws shade at Azalea during her opening monolog. She pretends to receive a phone call when when she answers it says, “Uh yes? Who is this? Iggy Azalea? Yeah, hey. Oh, no, no, no, no, you can come, ’cause what you doin’ is definitely not rap.” The audience seemed to love the joke but Iggy once again took to Twitter posting, “We are days from 2016, but i came online today and saw its still cool to try and discredit my 2014 accomplishments. LOL, fucking hell.”
December 4 2015
Badu responds to Azalea linking to her tweet and writing, “Well that’ll be the LAST time I send an uber for you! I can guaran DAMN tee you THAT.”
Jan 22 2016
In his song “White Privilege II” Macklemore calls out himself, Iggy, and other for cultural appropriation. He raps, “The culture was never your to make better. You’re Miley, you’re Elvis, you’re Iggy Azalea.” Iggy, very upset by the fact that old friend Macklemore did not even warn her about using her name in the song, tweeted, “he shouldnt have spent the last 3 yrs having friendly convos and taking pictures together at events etc if those were his feelings.”
Brooklyn hip-hop artist Talib Kewli was bothered by Iggy’s reaction to the reference. He tweeted, “The [email protected] Macklemore song was a diss to her, instead of actually listening, is proof of her privilege. Fuck Iggy Azalea.” The two continued to beef back and forth on Twitter with Iggy posting, “still tweeting i see? I thought this was about macklamore? rap is global now and it has sub-styles. pop-rap is part of that.” No apology has been made.
March 2 2016
After Iggy spoke poorly about Azealia Banks in an Elle cover interview, Banks calls out Iggy’s recent plastic surgery saying, “Mentioning me is the only thing that will get you attention. Because ur music and nose job are trash.”
March 30 2016
D’Angelo Rusell posts a video of Iggy’s finance Nick Young openly implying that he was cheating on her. Iggy sarcastically tweeted, “hmmm i see D Angelo Russell is trending… I actually liked his film. Thanks bro.”
June 9 2016
Iggy announces breakup with fiancé Nick Young, “Unfortunately although I love Nick and have tried and tried to rebuild my trust in him,” Azalea wrote on Instagram, “it’s become apparent in the last few weeks I am unable to. I genuinely wish Nick the best. It’s never easy to part ways with the person you planned you’re [sic] entire future with, but futures can be rewritten and as of today mine is a blank page.” Young had a less kind response simply tweeting, “Single.”
June 30 2016
It shortly after came out that Young’s ex-girlfriend Keonna Green is pregnant with their second child together. In a string of tweets, Iggy detailed her feelings on the incident. One read, “I broke up with Nick because I found out he had brought other women into our home while I was away and caught them on the security footage.” While another said, “I find it baffling anyone would make the choice to bring a child into the world under these circumstances + want attention and $ for it.”
June 19 2017
Addressing Iggy as “Igloo” Azealia Banks jokes about a possible collaboration on her new song, “What if… Igloo [Iggy] was on Anna Wintour.” Iggy took this as a peacetime gesture and posted videos on her Snapchat about squashing their beef.
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June 22 2017
In an unrelated interview, Halsey has some not so nice things to say about Azalea. “There’s a lot of people I wouldn’t put on my record” she said. “Iggy Azalea— absolutely not. She had a complete disregard for black culture. Fucking moron. I watched her career dissolve and it fascinated me.”
Iggy responded on an Australian talk show saying, “I thought it was a bit of a strange thing to throw that out there, but she’s young and I hope she learns maybe to be a bit less judgmental when she’s kind of in the same shoes.”
This article originally appeared on Billboard.
https://tunecollective.com/2017/07/01/full-timeline-iggy-azaleas-beefs-azealia-banks-halsey/
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May 25th, 2017 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on May 25th, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on There’s No Such Thing as Jason - I.T. by Phenylketonurics.
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RebelVampire
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. This week we are discussing There’s No Such Thing as Jason - I.T. by Phenylketonurics ~! (https://tapas.io/series/Theres-No-Such-Thing-as-Jason----IT) As CTP is brand-new, please allow me a brief moment to elaborate how the chats are formatted a bit in more detail than I will do for other chats (i.e. prepare for wall of text). The discussions are mostly meant to be freeform, so you can bring up whatever topic you would like about the comic. That being said, in order to help foster discussion, every 30 minutes I’m going to drop in a question. These questions are TOTALLY OPTIONAL, so if you have no interest in answering them, that is perfectly fine; you are welcome to ignore the questions completely. It’s simply going to be there to help those who need a bit of prompting to get into the discussion. As I’ve mentioned in other places, constructive criticism is allowed, please just be sure to be respectful towards the work. Keep in mind you’re also not obligated to give criticism. The goal of these chats is to have fun, talk about comics, and grow as a community. So please discuss what you wish. Since this is the first chat, I also want to mention this chat is free to drop-in and drop-out. If you can’t stay the full two hours, then that’s perfectly fine. Stay as long as you would like~! Tl;dr: Freeform discussions, but OPTIONAL questions will be dropped in every 30 mins. Ignore if it pleases you and have fun.
With that said, let us begin with this first question~!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
DracoPlato
1. The scene where the antenna was coming out of Dim really stuck with me visually as well as from a shock value so that's probably my favorite atm.
RebelVampire
ah yeah that was a really standout scene. with a lot of wtf value.
AngelicEmpyress
Oh my gosh favorite scene
that's a tough one
i think the scene where we first see view and jason as two different people
that was a big what wut? to me
loads of wth value XD
DracoPlato
definitely!
RebelVampire
haha for me i sadly dont remember that scene as well. not cause it wasnt powerful but because my mind was already blown and swirling with what exactly is going on with jason's identiy stuff
AngelicEmpyress
lol i STILL don't know what's going on and i read it twice XD
DracoPlato
hmmm like did sten create a game and is somehow merging it with the "real" world
AngelicEmpyress
oh and i loved the scene when jason is outside and suddenly puts his hood on and his eyes go red and hes like "im not jason"
RebelVampire
ah yeah that was a really great image
i really liked the color contrasts in it
DracoPlato
oh Pheny's art is gorgeous, so many scenes stick with me because of the lighting and colors and panel layouts they use
AngelicEmpyress
yes!
the hair
all the hair
RebelVampire
picking a favorite scene is hard. i think im going to go with the flashback scene of where jason and dim meet. mostly cause i think jason is adorable and i think it gives better insight into what his original personality is.
DracoPlato
haha young jason is adorable
AngelicEmpyress
lol lil jason doesn't seem too different from now jason in so many ways
DracoPlato
i like his iced tip hair reminiscent of the 90s
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
DracoPlato
Pheeeeeny~!!
Phenylketonurics
YO! Oh, it's so exciting to see what some of the favourite scenes are, rock on! ICED TIP HAIR YES!!
AngelicEmpyress
hey there!
DracoPlato
My bro totally had that look going on when he was a teen, lol
AngelicEmpyress
Hahaha
Phenylketonurics
Hello hello~!! THANK YOU so much for being here, aa~
RebelVampire
glad you could make it~!
AngelicEmpyress
oh mah goodness your art is so awesome
Phenylketonurics
And yeah, the whole split in seeing Jason versus View, establishing that these are indeed two different "people" is one of my favourite scenes in the comic as well (I'm so happy for the kind words, wow, mega gobs of gratitude!)
THANK YOU EMPYRESS!!
AngelicEmpyress
and the story is a real page turner especially since thrillers are a genre i normally dont touch with a 10 ft pole
Phenylketonurics
Oh wow, that is a huge compliment then, dang! I'll admit, thrillers are also something I'm weary of -- they're tricky to follow!
DracoPlato
true! It's not usually my genre of choice either, but I just love how thought provoking Jason is
AngelicEmpyress
but i like the 'try to put the pieces together youself'
DracoPlato
yeah!
It's more thought provoking than any other comic i've read
AngelicEmpyress
though i will say this...in your descriptions, when you say "this connects to such and such page" it would be better if you say the episode... since you can't track the actual pages easy in tapas
Phenylketonurics
YES!! Oh man, I hoped so hardcore that it could be approached with the reader's perspective, the reader's ideas in highlight -- THAT is the key to figuring things out.
AngelicEmpyress
so i had a tough time maneuvering back and forth
DracoPlato
oh that's a good point AE!
cosmographia
hey hey hi sorry here I am!! :D/
AngelicEmpyress
hi there!
DracoPlato
Hiiii Cosmo~!!
Phenylketonurics
!!! AE YES! That would be way better, thank you so much. YO COSMO!!
cosmographia
EY!!
Phenylketonurics
Stoked to see you here, aa~!!
cosmographia
Stoked to BE here, so glad people have received it so well!! (cuz I agree with all of this, the comic is phenomenal!)
AngelicEmpyress
also...i feel jason's pain with that noise... i have mesophonia so it would probably drive me completely insane XD
Phenylketonurics
SO MUCH KINDNESS from killer rad creators, wow, I'm on high for the rest of the year, man. Mesophonia is something I am fascinated with, wow, no one talks about that!! RAD.
AngelicEmpyress
really?
no one i met had ever heard of it XD
RebelVampire
ah yeah i empathize with jason's pain noise as well. mostly because my ears are sensitive to cpu hums because ever since i got sick one time, ive been able to pick up the frequency of when its switching to different activity states and it took me like weeks at first to block out the annoyance of it and it drove me quite bananas. could barely even sleep.
AngelicEmpyress
i can hear that too Rebel
DracoPlato
oh wow
cosmographia
oh wow
AngelicEmpyress
least jason handles it better than me XD
Phenylketonurics
The effects of one's sensitivity to the frequencies of such auditory signals is definitely something Jason's dealing with, oh man, this is MAJORLY awesome you know about it firsthand.
cosmographia
yea I've had experiences like that too there's this weird white noise that comes from this one supermarket here and I've asked my family if they hear it and they've said they haven't. And it HURTS. I HATE going to that store hahah <"D
AngelicEmpyress
the ones that are key to me send me into ultimate rage and I cant concentrate on ANYTHING
cosmographia
oh! 80
AngelicEmpyress
i have to wear headphones all day at work because of it
RebelVampire
jason is handling it better than me too. for a week i wore my mom's insulated headphone things that ppl wear when theyre doing loud hardware stuff.
Phenylketonurics
Right, exactly! It's a very physical experience even if it's invisible -- Jason's just starting to re-experience the auditory assault. In one flashback, we see it causes him pretty severe headaches. ;o;
(it in conjunction with the whole video game programme test, aah(
cosmographia
-nod nod-
ngl for like...a LONG time I kept denying that all of this was actually happening (in the comic I mean hahaha)
Phenylketonurics
BUT YES, the whole idea behind Jason as it started was that I wanted people to bring their personal experiences with anomalies and troubled memories forward, inject them side-by-side with Jason's experience.
cosmographia
it wasn't till the recent updates I started taking the experiences more seriously, or more like...ACTUALLY happening, I thought they were psychological projections
now i'm like "WHAT" (with the most recent updates from last month to now)
Phenylketonurics
SEE!! yeah, I really hoped it would migrate from being psychological as in "not happening" to psychological and "VERY MUCH HAPPENING"
AngelicEmpyress
oh i like how Dim and Day look visually different in the past vs the present...i love that detail
RebelVampire
ah its a few mins early but this is a good time to drop in the next question XDXD
QUESTION 2. The comic deals with a lot of themes of perception, perspective, psychology and more. In other words, things aren’t quite what they seem. What in the story are you sure is “real” and what are you sure isn’t “real?” Is there anyone you trust in the story for an objective viewpoint into the events?
Phenylketonurics
oh cool cool, AE, I'm so happy to hear that, thank you!!!
cosmographia
YEP it was a punch to the face (metaphorical and in this case welcoming )
Itrustnoone.
AngelicEmpyress
omg...
i have no idea what is real or not yet XD
i still dont know what the heck is going on XDDDD
cosmographia
Phen keeps pulling the rug from the reader's feet
Phenylketonurics
Hahah! There's A LOT in the air right now, too, haha^^
That rug just tosses everything around!
cosmographia
in a GOOD way mind you!
it's like "-snap fingers- Ya got me again hahahahawhatishappening"
OH YEA def!
AngelicEmpyress
im sure that jason has feelings for Day... i think >.> then again even that is questionable at times
RebelVampire
i feel like the comic could have the assassins creed slogan underneath. about how nothing is true, everything is permitted.
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
cosmographia
seems to me like a co-dependency relationship as in any feelings are just a need for validation turned into romantic attraction
AngelicEmpyress
ah i can see that
Phenylketonurics
AE -- YOU ZOOMED RIGHT IN on a really big part of interplay that feeds on Jason -- View is mixed in definitely but like Cosmo said, co-dependency is an element to how this thing manifests.
Superjustinbros
WHOAH THE MAN HIMSELF APPEARED!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
cosmographia
:U!
AngelicEmpyress
lol super
Superjustinbros
HEY PHENY!!!
:DDDD
AngelicEmpyress
i know...we are in the presence of The MAN! XD
Superjustinbros
Sorry if I'm a bit late ^^;;
cosmographia
that being said, even if the situation is so out there, the characters are SO belivable and their reasoning/actions to how this is happening is relatable and understandable
RebelVampire
i feel like the entire comics begs the question of our definition of reality. like, even if these things are happening in Jason's head, are they any less real than things other ppl experience subjectively
Superjustinbros
I agree with that so hard
The characters of this story are written so well
cosmographia
yep!
DracoPlato
yeah i feel that too
Superjustinbros
Plus with the timeskips and flashbacks changing how they look as mentioned before(edited)
And I really feel like I can connect with Jason on a spiritual level of sorts
since me and him actually have quite a bit it common, especially with how lifelike the story gets
Like, without some of the heavier sci-fi elements like the antennas, I'd say this could all very well happen IRL
but if it did happen I wouldn't want an antenna on my head zapping me while I'm trying to do stuff
AngelicEmpyress
lol
zaps super =p
Superjustinbros
is zapped
cosmographia
yea I can definitely see how it's relatable in such a way
this one scene of Jason desperately trying to get an answer out of Dim (sorry forgot the page number) hit way too close to home haha
Superjustinbros
And it's super rare for me to treat a fictional character as someone like myself
So that alone is quite an accomplishment
AngelicEmpyress
wow yeah
cosmographia
damn! Yea
Phenylketonurics
(sorry sorry, wifi I'm using is a nightmare since I'm in a weird area, aaa! VIEW GO AWAY)
Superjustinbros
GET OUT VIEW
AngelicEmpyress
lol!
Superjustinbros
DON'T VIEW THE VIEW
DracoPlato
gdi View
SirDelta God King of Mecha
oh crap i missed the beginig, sorry whats going on
AngelicEmpyress
lol
gah i love that hair
and so much emotion in the eyes
even for just circles
DracoPlato
pheny's art is amaaaaazing~!
so much love
AngelicEmpyress
yus!
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i admit, not too big a fan of the red hair
Superjustinbros
He looks like such a goof too when he's not trying to plot something sinister
AngelicEmpyress
LOL
DracoPlato
don't trust him, he's evil
Superjustinbros
I even got sharp fangs like him
SirDelta God King of Mecha
but isn't he always sinister
Phenylketonurics
EXCELLENTE!! I'm extremely excited to hear that the characters are believable, too! Even if red hair is not a good thing, hahah^^
Superjustinbros
lol
brb never trusting my characters with red hair ever
RebelVampire
delta why you gotta hate the red?
AngelicEmpyress
red is my favorite color
SirDelta God King of Mecha
its not thats its a bad thing, i just don't like the style and color combo gonig on there(edited)
Phenylketonurics
The play on reality of being like... this question in and of itself is another slant that I DEEPLY enjoy seeing people's take on. Yeah, View's hair is something of Jason's past -- he doesn't like it either!
Superjustinbros
lol
So many possible ideas for what would happen
Phenylketonurics
Exactly!
Superjustinbros
if Jason and View started having a serious conversation between each other
RebelVampire
i think i like young jason's hair the best. so spunky yet so cute. i think compared to his older self theres something that capture youthful naivete
DracoPlato
I like the black hair best but I like all the varities
Phenylketonurics
Rebel has it right on, aa!!! I'm just over the moon that you can read that characters' milestone ages so well, thank you!!
Phenylketonurics
Hair itself has a history of being a strong definition of one's identity (culturally speaking)... so I definitely take that into consideration with Jason! He's constantly messing with his hair!
Superjustinbros
XD
cosmographia
nice!
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i see i see
Superjustinbros
That sounded more funny to me than it should've been
DracoPlato
to represent his ever changing self
Phenylketonurics
Yes! Either in denial of events or possibly even as an affirmation, to distance oneself from things that have happened.
Superjustinbros
That's cool~
Phenylketonurics
A LOT of physical cues like... eyes, hands and adornments thereof have roots in the "magic" of the body. It's all a little superstitious, hah^^
Superjustinbros
I like that! It's a great attention to detail~
Phenylketonurics
Thank you, aa!! I'm really glad to hear that you've been able to pick up on these things yourself, though, THAT is like... half my work done, haha^^
Superjustinbros
You're welcome! Don't think I've ever seen a story that has ever done that to such a great extend personally.
AngelicEmpyress
oh....hand....that little whatcha macallit
ffff
keychain?
Phenylketonurics
YES!
The keyring Dim has!
WELL... rings in general (abstracted in Jason's perspective as a goal in the game programme but it goes back to a literal silver ring, one that is held in hands~)
Phenylketonurics
eheheh^^
Superjustinbros
Realy this is all such a deep lore you got going on!
I love it.
And lots of attentions to keep an eye out on
SirDelta God King of Mecha
this is going eva levels of deep
Phenylketonurics
It's been 10+ years in writing, I really gotta make sure not to get excessive with it, yeah? X]
cosmographia
DAMN
Superjustinbros
XP
Phenylketonurics
I started it when I was 19!! I AM 31 NOW WHAT THE HECK
cosmographia
how much has the story changed since the initial idea? :0
AngelicEmpyress
lol i thought you were younger than that lol
Superjustinbros
LOL
DracoPlato
oh hey we're around the same age
AngelicEmpyress
Yup
Superjustinbros
I'm only 22
turning 23 pretty soon tho
AngelicEmpyress
Hehe
SirDelta God King of Mecha
you seems a lot more lively for someone that old than i expeted
Phenylketonurics
Not much, surprisingly! I started with There's No Such Thing as Jason, it's completely written, done. And... I wanted to take the story and expand upon what Jason meant (since the first focused pretty exclusively on View)
Superjustinbros
Aah, cool!
And I've been working on my stuff since I was,... 14? (at least my current stuff)(edited)
AngelicEmpyress
oh wow
cosmographia
cool tho!
I think my comic has gotten a few minor tweaks throughout the years but damn, keeping it like that for a DECADE -applause-
DracoPlato
that is impressive!
Superjustinbros
I've made so many tweaks to my concepts (and really I've bene conceptualising stuff for so long)
SirDelta God King of Mecha
where did the title of the comic from
cosmographia
good you're getting what you want, tho!
Phenylketonurics
MINOR TWEAKS ARE GOOD! It helps keep the narrative organic and fresh. TNSTAJ was a telling of something already very vague so... it was just a matter of style, haha^^
RebelVampire
ah ty delta. you are segwaying into the next question
Phenylketonurics
Oh! The title came from a line in the story!
Superjustinbros
And I have one other series that I retired that was a self-fic that lasted from 2001 (when I was only seven) to 2009(edited)
Phenylketonurics
WELL DANG! WAIT, there's a big change then.
There's No Such Thing as Jason was originally titled "What is Wrong"
Superjustinbros
XD "What's wrong, Jason?"
Phenylketonurics
Then in 2006, I finished writing and loved the line one of the characters says near the beginning, haha^
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i'm confused with the i.t. part at the end
AngelicEmpyress
information technology i would presume
DracoPlato
lol!
Phenylketonurics
The I.T. part gets added on as a sort of "volume 2"
DracoPlato
Jason are you okay
Superjustinbros
What would volume 3 be, then?
SirDelta God King of Mecha
volume 2?
Phenylketonurics
It's the I.T. side, the technical nitty gritty of what Jason is.
SirDelta God King of Mecha
ah ok
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. What do you think is the significance of the title as it relates to the story? Who is View? Who is Jason? Are they the same person, differing identities, or something else entirely?
Superjustinbros
Aye
AngelicEmpyress
i was right lol
Phenylketonurics
OH THIS QUESTION! W
cosmographia
I was JUST gonna ask about the IT thing I love the reasoning behind it <3
DracoPlato
There's no such thing as Jason
RebelVampire
draco no. youre grounded
AngelicEmpyress
i think view and jason are two parts to the same person and one is trying to overcome the other
DracoPlato
yeah i think that as well
or jason may be a computer program and view is a virus
AngelicEmpyress
oh i like that pov
Superjustinbros
If that wound up being the truth
the part of being "like a compute rprogram"
SirDelta God King of Mecha
from my understanding, i think at some point veiw and jason were the same person, than after some event jason was able to remain the domanit person and go on with his life leaving view in the back of his head just wating to get out and fuck up jasons life
AngelicEmpyress
i feel that view is something that was created for some purpose and is now out of hand
and Dim is kinda the 'ground' persay
DracoPlato
I think Sten created View in his experiments on Jason
AngelicEmpyress
Yes
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i forgot about those
Phenylketonurics
(I am sitting here grinning over every single bit of input, YOU GUYS ARE SO BLOODY SMART WHAT THE HECK MAN!!)
Superjustinbros
LOL
Superjustinbros
YO WE LEVELED UP TOGETHER
SirDelta God King of Mecha
oh cousre your smiling, were all here for your comic
Superjustinbros
Yup~
AngelicEmpyress
i was thinking about the lollipops being what kept view detained, and it kinda showed Dims whole purpose in it all
RebelVampire
maybe view is like the replication of an avatar in real life of some sort. it reminds me of a video i watched the other day about the movie perfect blue and how the movie is about how someone's avatar is something scripted and not the real person. so maybe sten tried to create an avatar that is reflected by the real person.
Superjustinbros
So Jason would be like
Phenylketonurics
Delta has a crazy good point about how people can be buried in the back of our minds and REALLY mess us up when thrust back into our lives -- which ties directly into what AE says about Dim -- his presence is absolutely crucial for Jason (and integral for View)
AngelicEmpyress
and i think Day is just using jason to study more about view
Superjustinbros
God dang I dunno how long I can keep up with thsi chat XD
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
Superjustinbros
It's just all over the palce rn XP
AngelicEmpyress
that's the fun part though super
Superjustinbros
(Also in part cause I have the AC set to low)
AngelicEmpyress
you know how every electrical thing has to be ground or else itd go haywire...there you go view and dim
Superjustinbros
Yeah
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i feel like the jason necklace that he gave day was ment to be some kind of restrictor on view
AngelicEmpyress
but i think Dim is slowly growing tired of his 'job' and fromt hat View is slowly slipping out of grasp
Phenylketonurics
Oh man, YES, electricity!! The electrostatic involved with radio frequencies, a physical output of what happens at a mico-level, yes! The necklace is a definite "controller" of sorts, being something that View is quite focused on whenever he talks with the other characters.
Superjustinbros
HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE NECKLACE XO
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
DracoPlato
I didn't forget
cosmographia
ooh
Phenylketonurics
Oh man, noticing Dim's exhaustion~ He's in a job position that... seems to contradict his history with "fiddly little technical things"
SirDelta God King of Mecha
and now its on day and its fucking up her life so it makes me thing it was specily made for Jason
AngelicEmpyress
i dont know...the line "this metal was never meant for you" i'm not too sure
DracoPlato
my wonder is if any of it is real or if there's another reality outside of the one they exist in
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i coud be wrong, i did binge read it last week
RebelVampire
idk i think day has some issues and doesnt need the necklace to bring havoc in her life. cause i mean dont think the necklace has anything to do with the toxic work environment she clearly has.
Phenylketonurics
Ohoho, Day versus Dim with the necklace and the grades of metal that Jason/View have physiological responses to is massive.
DracoPlato
day definitely has some issues i think, haha
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
SirDelta God King of Mecha
everyone in this comic has issues
Phenylketonurics
Draco!! YES, in conversation with Day, Qress (Dim's sister) mentions reality as being a fun little game to play with, yeah!!
AngelicEmpyress
though we havent touched on what jason's older brother has in all this
DracoPlato
yeeees~ she did
Superjustinbros
Lol
AngelicEmpyress
i think out of all of them, he's the only one on the ground of reality
i think anyway
Superjustinbros
(Apologies if I'm not active much atm, there's other stuff I want to get to)(edited)
DracoPlato
I think sten and jason's brother are most aware of what reality is
AngelicEmpyress
Yes
SirDelta God King of Mecha
well what is reality really, its just how we percive it who knows maybe the others see the "real" reality(edited)
Phenylketonurics
Bringing Sten in (Dim's brother) was so difficult, I hoped so much that it would be interesting and not simply break that reality (since yes, reality is dependent on perspective which is often very much skewed!)
RebelVampire
i think bringing in sten actually vastly added a new hand to the table so to speak about what reality. cause things i assumed werent real suddenly were.
SirDelta God King of Mecha
oh yay, existentialism
AngelicEmpyress
i think the only time it was broken for me was with Qress... her scenes just seemed to happen outside of everything else and almost felt it didn't belong
Phenylketonurics
Existentialists, just hold your finger up to any argument and say, "but what's the point" X] BUT NO, no, hopefully I can steer clear of that kinda thing. Qress is heavy, oh my gosh, I'm so glad you said that AE!
AngelicEmpyress
and its almost like after her scene, i forgot about her
cosmographia
I agree with what Rebel said about Sten
DracoPlato
yeah i do too
sten is a huge piece i think
SirDelta God King of Mecha
but whats the point (i had too)
RebelVampire
if i absolutely had to pick someone to trust in this story it would be Qress actually. i think Qress seems the most innocent party so far in what happened in the past. cause even jason's brother mentioned having an idea of what was going on.
DracoPlato
same
i want to see more of her
AngelicEmpyress
i think i trust the brother...i dont know why (cuz im weird)
DracoPlato
I trust no one until it's over
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
Phenylketonurics
IT IS SO GOOD to hear that Sten cemented the reality of the main three in place, heck yes, thank you!! The Qress and Day conversation was a tiny little fragment of establishing their relationship, REALLY hope to expand upon that!
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i don't trust anyone is this comic, too many fucked up people
its just layers of counter manipulation
cosmographia
yea like...without him dropping answers, he GAVE a lot of answers or rather some leads to grasp on till more clues emerge
AngelicEmpyress
its all Stens fault x3
DracoPlato
#BlameSten
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i'm just gonna blame view
that seems like a safe bet
RebelVampire
AH! i trusted jason's brother some until this scene
https://tapas.io/episode/551271
DracoPlato
i feel like sten is responsible for view tho
RebelVampire
and then i went trust no one
AngelicEmpyress
i think view is only trying to create a reality for himself unmanipulated...even if he goes aobut it the wrong way lol
Phenylketonurics
It is such a power play, the manipulation of information -- something of a hornet's nest gone mad at times.
THAT IS A GOOD POINT YO!! AH! I am so excited that you brought that up, dang!
SirDelta God King of Mecha
Brb
DracoPlato
ah yeah i remember that with jason's brother
Tyle
Phenylketonurics
Tyle's weak point is his very short temper.
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i thought that was the wierdist nickname
DracoPlato
haha i had to double check cause i thought his name was Ty
AngelicEmpyress
im kinda reminded of Johnny 5 when i think of View
DracoPlato
omg, me too
SirDelta God King of Mecha
it just seems so odd to call him tyle
Phenylketonurics
(Tyle for Tyler, heh, nicknames can be a fun mask to wear, yeah?)
DracoPlato
Ooooooooooooooooooh
that makes more sense
I am super bad with names btw
Phenylketonurics
haha, no me too!!!
RebelVampire
his name is actually tyler!? my life is a lie
DracoPlato
actually i love that pheny mentions the names so often in artist's comments
that's super helpful
Phenylketonurics
thank you draco, aaa!! I always make sure to list people, I am awful at names everywhere. It's humiliating.
RebelVampire
yeah that is. i say this from doing reviews and always double checking name spellings. sometimes its a pain when i have to search a billion pages to find a single name drop :"D
DracoPlato
yeah I started trying to do it more cause of pheny and mappy doing it i think
Phenylketonurics
Right?! You go back like 40 pages and still get the name wrong because it's vague who's referencing who??
Need a hover-over option, put your mouse over the character in question and the name pops up, hah!
DracoPlato
omg that'd be awesome
character pages are great too
RebelVampire
yeah i really like when ppl have websites with cast pages
it makes life 1000 times easier
Phenylketonurics
khyatix HAS AN INCREDIBLE character profile page set oh my gooossh
AngelicEmpyress
hehe yus
DracoPlato
oooooh no no no it's terrible
the one for zenchav
the one for OoO is decent
Phenylketonurics
IT IS NOT! The one for zenchav is my favourite waaaitt!!
DracoPlato
omg it's so bad, i need to redo it
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. The story, in so far, has hinted that Jason was subjected to some sort of “experiment” in the past. What do you think the goal of the experiment was, and what was it doing to Jason exactly? Or, alternatively, do you think it’s all in everyone’s heads?
DracoPlato
Do you mean this one http://khyatix.com/zenchav/profiles.shtml Or this one? http://khyatix.com/zenchavooo/profiles.shtml
cosmographia
whether or not the experiment is real, it's clear that Jason was manipulated and kinda emotionally abused by the older gang so ū-ū
DracoPlato
The idea of perspective was brought up in relation to reality, so a lot of it may depend on who's perspective the story is really being seen from
SirDelta God King of Mecha
Back
DracoPlato
wb~!
Phenylketonurics
The first one! I LOVE THAT ONE, it's clean and has so much cool information included (everything necessary for referencing while making fanart, heh)! And whoa cosmo, you picked right up on the age play there -- seniority rules, yo.
DracoPlato
Ooooh, maybe i'll do more like that then, i thought they were kind of lame. But I couldn't do time specific ones for zenchav cause of the nature of the story
AngelicEmpyress
i actually have no idea
i sometimes think it really didn't have a goal...but it was just some fun experiment to see how far it could go
DracoPlato
okay so I think the experiment was tyle and sten dicking around creating a game and sten got power hungry and wanted to take it further
SirDelta God King of Mecha
sadly i don't remember those parts too well
DracoPlato
but initially maybe it was just as a to see if it can be done kind of thing
RebelVampire
my running theory is that it was specifically a psychological experiment on personality manipulation. in otherwords, the goal was to see if they could use a game to give someone an entirely different identity. thus view was born.
Phenylketonurics
Tying recounts of past events into present based on who's where (esp in relation to another character/their relationship status) has made the progress for the experimental game's purpose slow-going. but I love that there's so much potential/guessing-room for it.
AngelicEmpyress
oh wow i like that Rebel
DracoPlato
i do too, hahah
Phenylketonurics
Rebel, h'oh man, that is something HUGE to chew on and it's killing me! I love it!!
AngelicEmpyress
i hadn't made the connection with the game until tonight...had forgotten about that part
guess i focused more on the metal
DracoPlato
altho
dim was experimented on too it seems like
and it wasn't personality effecting so much
AngelicEmpyress
i think Dim was more the bracer...
like ok you two want to do this crazy thing ill make sure it doesn't get out of hand
SirDelta God King of Mecha
having two people experiment on someone is a bad idea
AngelicEmpyress
so he agreed to be experimented on
Superjustinbros
Very
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i mean two different experiments on one guy
RebelVampire
im unclear whether dim was experimented on or if they forged dim's name on the consent document so sten and them wouldnt get busted
in the sense that it shows dim as the experiment head instead of sten
Phenylketonurics
The ethical side of this experiment is clear, though, yeah? X]
DracoPlato
that it's unethical?
AngelicEmpyress
btw Rebel, I love these questions! i thought they'd be some generic each week questions but i love that these are tailored ot the story
Phenylketonurics
HAHA! IT IS CLEAR!
AngelicEmpyress
lol Draco
RebelVampire
oh good draco replied what i was thinking XD
and ty~! that was my intention is to have questions more tailored to the story. minus the first question which will probably repeat each week for sake of it being the first question and it letting ppl get their feet wet so to speak
Phenylketonurics
No for real, Rebel, these are such brilliant questions, humbled to the very core, yo. It is making me wanna answer with my all, hah!
AngelicEmpyress
hehe
that means phenny will be at other CTPs?
Phenylketonurics
YOU KNOW IT!!
SirDelta God King of Mecha
kinda makes so i can't wait for my comics day
cosmographia
yea man, the questions are A+ :D
AngelicEmpyress
YAY
Phenylketonurics
Delta, yes~!! I will so be there for your comic's day!
SirDelta God King of Mecha
Woo
AngelicEmpyress
ill be there too delta
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i think its in two weeks
any way we're getting stracked(edited)
AngelicEmpyress
i think the only scene that confused me...not as in what is going on in general...but more i never followed what happened was the game night scene
the description was like "day knows what happened and we do too" and im like i have no idea what happened
Phenylketonurics
THE GAME NIGHT SCENE, AA. That was one I had a lot of people tell me they were too confused over.
RebelVampire
if i understood the game scene correctly
AngelicEmpyress
i think i read it like 4 times before i gave up lol
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i don't even remember this scene
RebelVampire
jason hallucinated sten and they were actually talking to a different person?
SirDelta God King of Mecha
oh that one
AngelicEmpyress
but i thought view set it up but then he didn’t
SirDelta God King of Mecha
it seemed like view did it
Phenylketonurics
Yes! So... Jason was supposedly invited to a floor mate's game night party.
SirDelta God King of Mecha
i remember now
DracoPlato
oh yeah that did confuse me too
SirDelta God King of Mecha
its fine
i just thought of that as view fucking with jasons life
AngelicEmpyress
but then they got there and no one knew what was going on?
i thought the game night was at jason's
yeah total confusion
RebelVampire
it was at a differnt jason's
DracoPlato
Sten already playing a game with Jason
SirDelta God King of Mecha
other Jason
RebelVampire
someone who lived in the building whose name also be jason
or something like that
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
RebelVampire
the point being is i think jason was never invited but view lied to day and said they were invited
which is why when they got there the person said "i didnt invite you."
DracoPlato
jason, you have no friends
because there's no such thing as Jason
SirDelta God King of Mecha
name drop bomb
BOOOOOOM
RebelVampire
jason is a figment of everyone's imagination including ours
AngelicEmpyress
lol draco
RebelVampire
i took that thought too far in my head. now have headache
SirDelta God King of Mecha
I MIUST FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH THEN(edited)
DracoPlato
too many reflections in the mirror
Phenylketonurics
Yes! Earlier in the week, when Day and Jason were going to his dorm, do you remember the elevator scene? And them rushing to his room as someone called to talk to him? Right here>> https://tapas.io/episode/301105
AngelicEmpyress
Yeah
SirDelta God King of Mecha
yeah, other Jason
Phenylketonurics
There's a few little things that have yet to happen that will loop as a recurring moment from this scene. BUT YO, yeah, somatic experience ended up giving Jason a pretty harsh memory of Sten that he tried to resolve in present time.
It could be noted that Jason being aware of JASON and his memory super-imposing Sten over that name as a bit trippy.
ALL WHILE HAPPENING ON GAME NIGHT.
video games, ouch, hah^^
SirDelta God King of Mecha
jesus these people need to see a therapist
DracoPlato
lolol
that is intense though
i should reread that part
AngelicEmpyress
we shouldn't play video games XDDD
SirDelta God King of Mecha
but there so much fun
DracoPlato
it's okay, I don't
SirDelta God King of Mecha
you play the sims
cosmographia
hahahah
Phenylketonurics
THE SIMS IS CRUCIAL.
SirDelta God King of Mecha
...i know it(edited)
DracoPlato
I know right
sims is the best
SirDelta God King of Mecha
Ehh
DracoPlato
gotta make all my characters
damon gotta impregnate everyone
SirDelta God King of Mecha
were getting side tracked again
Phenylketonurics
I still put Sims music on while I'm working on background art.
AngelicEmpyress
sometimes it just makes you want to give jason a hug x3
DracoPlato
omg XD listening to sims music
RebelVampire
the plot twist of theres no such thing as jason is that its just a game of sims that jason is playing
AngelicEmpyress
lol
yus
DracoPlato
Ommmmmg
SirDelta God King of Mecha
view is just jason actully intervining in the game
Phenylketonurics
Jason has had not a very good experience with adults in his life -- crossing the threshold into adulthood might be wearing on his nerves, though! Sims adulthood is so much easier, ahha^^
DracoPlato
does jason have peter pan syndrome
SirDelta God King of Mecha
the fuck is that
DracoPlato
where you don't want to grow up and want to stay a kid forever
SirDelta God King of Mecha
Oh
AngelicEmpyress
Lol
SirDelta God King of Mecha
shoulda guessed
DracoPlato
i mean it's either that or the other thing
RebelVampire
to be fair, with the amount of emotional trauma jason suffered, he perhaps missed some key development points while growing up
DracoPlato
yeah i do feel like jason is off developmentally
AngelicEmpyress
True
SirDelta God King of Mecha
yeah...
that boy is fucked
Phenylketonurics
HOHO, Jason 's perspective on age not yet addressed, I am looking forward to this. His anxiety stems from just what you've been noticing though, yes. Fear of the unknown!
DracoPlato
you and me both Jason
SirDelta God King of Mecha
so...human nature
cosmographia
ay Jason...
Phenylketonurics
Haha, HUBRIS!
cosmographia
but yea that's a good point, he may have missed key developments due to trauma
DracoPlato
but is jason even human
cause he could just be AI
SirDelta God King of Mecha
and view could be a glitch then
SirDelta God King of Mecha
a terrible glitch
AngelicEmpyress
so many possibilities
Phenylketonurics
The problem though is that memory being shifty and undependable makes advancing beyond that fear even worse (view glitch is a freaking killer concept dang)
AngelicEmpyress
lol would be funny is view as he is trying to make the reality accidentally glitched himself
cosmographia
-nod- and confidence issues can effectively make someone far easier to manipulate
so you can just tell Jason "remember when you __" and with enough convincing, he'd most likely believe it?
SirDelta God King of Mecha
buts a little manipulator too
everyone is
cosmographia
oh yea def
but Jason could be a reactive manipulator as in, it's just what seems to work for everyone else toward him so he's projecting what works
SirDelta God King of Mecha
its just layers and layers of manipulation and counter manipulation
cosmographia
yea
RebelVampire
Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party is now complete~! Thank you everyone so much for joining this first chat~! We are happy to have had you all here~! That being said, if you would like to continue discussing the comic, we encourage you to do so~! We want to give a big thank you to Phenylketonurics, as well, for volunteering There’s No Such Thing as Jason - I.T. for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Phenylketonurics’ efforts. If you have questions, concerns, or suggestions about CTP, please feel free to PM me, or e-mail me at [email protected]. As CTP is new, we are going to tweak things here or there, but we’ll be sure to let you know of any changes.
With that said, next week’s Comic Tea Party will focus on Psychteria by CalimonGraal. Please use this week to read as much of the comic as you would like. Hope to see you next Thursday (June 1st) from 5PM to 7PM PST~! Until then~! Comic: https://tapas.io/series/Psychteria
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