#if you want to be sent to superhell to be tortured good for you

[dragormir]

This is your periodic unfriendly reminder that Devos and Lysonia have been sending Forsworn to the Maw to be tortured into joining the Mawsworn, completely ignoring the principles they outlined in their own recruitment package, making them just as bad as whatever it is you think the Kyrian are doing.

[meowsapow]

Fandom: your own ocs 😏

Oh god this was evil to ask of me (not really) but I will talk about my OCs on main for the first time. I am so sorry for any mistakes I answered this SO fast

Fave character/ character I think about the Most: Toni. I love her she is so tortured but funny about it and its like if barbie did parkour and went through some of the most traumatic things ever. Honorable mention her friend Judith who she lives with. Friend's meaner older sister energy but shes. Very. She. Yeah shes hot shut up everyone.

My Baby/ character that gives me cuteness agression/character that is so shaped: I love love love Langston. He is plauged with chronic Some Guy syndrome. He likes to make comics. He showed up last to the party to have a good time but its not his fault the party went up in flames. He is trying his best. His nickname is Peanut :)

Underrated/underappreciated fave: I think my dude Laurent "RJ" Jones is like. He's THERE. But he's not ever there. Its like the friend who is always present and you are aware of but just vibing. He has custody of the braincells.

Obscure fave/ character that sows up for 0.2 seconds and I won't shut up about it for a week: Every once in a while D&D is brought up. I froath at the mouth when I think about Laurel Nemetona, my reupholstered OC to become a Feywild Ranger. Strength based. So strong and so sweet <3

POOR LITTLE MEOW MEOW: THEREON MY WRETCHED LITTLE BARD. He was forced to play and won a man's life and identity in a game of cards, and only won because he cheated. He lives in shame as he didn't realize the consequences would be death for the other guy. So he adopted his name and identity to honour the wishes of the OG Thereon, who only wanted to make a name for himself as a hero </3

Character I would send to the horse plinko: I don't make awful characters but honorable mention: Charlie you sucked and made things harder for your found family and I am blaming you for your own demise. Naughty OCs get sent to the horse plinko.

Character I would send to eeby deeby/superhell: Simon is literally there for this reason. He is a bastard man who cause his own death because he was angry he was called out for being scumnof the earth. Screw you I'm putting you in a death loop. I hope you crash your shitty bike 5000 times a day in superhell.

[girlbossblackbeard]

(Beware this is a long ask) Reading that post from occamshipper and wow. How did they even come to the conclusion that Cas gained a soul and went to Heaven? Like it's canon that angels that die go to the Empty, it's canon that the deal Cas made with the Shadow to get Jack back meant that feeling true happiness would make the Empty take Cas and it's canon that God can take someone out of the Empty. So it's logical to come to the conclusion that Cas' love confession to Dean caused him to feel true happiness and lead to the Empty taking him and then when Jack became God, he got Cas out of the Empty and together they rebuilt Heaven. Also how's it wrong for anyone to describe the Empty as superhell? We all saw the Empty mentally torturing Cas so that he'd go back to resting. Ruby and I believe Lucifer too said the Empty isn't a peaceful place. Furthermore, where are they getting at peace=going to Heaven? As a Christian, while Heaven is a peaceful place, when I die the reason why I'd be at peace is because I lived a good life and because I made the lives of those around me better because I tried my best to be good to others and help others as much as possible. Reuniting with loved ones is not the goal of getting into Heaven, it's just the cherry on top. Okay so how does that all relate back to Cas? It relates back to him because his true happiness was the simple act of loving Dean unconditionally (even if he felt Dean would never love him back) and that by sacrificing himself by experiencing true happiness, it meant he could save Dean's life. That's why he was at peace with going back to a place of torture. Finally the Heaven ending for Cas is terrible. While this ending is better than Cas suffering for eternity in the Empty, why exactly would Cas be happy in a place where he was mocked and tortured for loving Dean and where they were always trying to play on his worst fear (Dean not loving him back and only seeing him as a tool for him and Sam) as a means to manipulate him to into serving them again. Another reason why Cas' ending sucked was because Cas never got closure on the whole does Dean love me for who I am or does he only love me for what I can do. As a fan, I do believe that Dean does love Cas for who he is but it's really shitty that it can be left to interpretation due to the fact of Dean never mentioning the confession and us never getting a confession from Dean. Finally, even if the confession did give us Destiel, as you mentioned in canon it's still one sided. Heck even if it was reciprocated, killing off Cas immediately after would still be homophobic and the fact that they had to turn Billie into an outright villian for the sole purpose of setting up that confession is super racist because why are we killing the only current POC on the show to further the story of Dean (a white dude). All in all, while I'm happy that people can still find joy in the ending and I'd never be one to take that away from others, we can't turn off the critical thinking parts of our brain and refuse to call out the problematic elements of the last few episodes

Wee doggies you weren’t kidding! But yeah you pretty much summed it all up here. I think the leaked scripts also help solidify even more what we already knew; that Cas was sent to the empty with Billie after his confession. Those parts of the script are what I was trying to convey to the other user since my friend who worked on set and has the full original scripts from that season read that scene out loud to me after 15.18 aired, but now y’all get to read the real thing for yourselves! The only thing I diverge from you on is that I personally think Cas’s heaven ending is fine, and if it was done correctly, it would’ve been the ideal ending for him in my mind. Dean would inevitably have ended up there and I like to think that they spend the rest of eternity together, wherever that may be :) And now that Jack is running the show, I would hope that Cas can rebuild his relationship with the idea of heaven and try to form much happier memories than the ones you pointed out of him getting tortured and mocked and cast out, which are all very true! And I also share your frustration with Cas never really getting closure re: Dean’s feelings. Whether they were reciprocated or not, he (and we the audience) deserved to hear it. 

Don’t even get me started on the bury your gays trope and the racism surrounding Billie’s death (and then the subsequent, classic misogyny of Billie’s replacement’s death almost immediately after!), I can, will, and actively have driven myself crazy just thinking about how poorly these characters were handled in those scenes. Thank you for sharing all your thoughts! I really loved getting to read your perspective on the confession and how the show was wrapped. Ultimately I agree with you, I think if someone can find happiness in the final episodes I don’t want to take that away from them but we also can’t just turn a blind eye to glaring issues that the show repeatedly fails on.