#if you really liked villanelle or eve you would not want to domesticate either of them.

[gaygnomegirl]

people who claim to be fans of a fictional character who is a serial killer but feel the need to put them in some kind of happy healing epilogue or in a cutsy cosy alternative universe to enjoy them disappoint me. it's like watching someone claim they love a cat and then declaw the cat. if you loved them for real you would accept that their nature is to bite and kill small animals and scratch up or piss on the nice furniture. to deny them their nature is to deny them a full life.

[loving-villanelle]

Yusuf was the "reminder" of Eve liking men I guess. Killing off Konstantin that stupid and brutal way and him telling Pam that Helene was dead anyway and pam being like why didn't you tell me sooner?? Like why?? LN was on a killing spree I think. She was like I dunno how to send a character off without harming them, except her very own speaking voice Carolyn of course. To train a new assasin was unneeded. Gunn could have worked in small doses in earlier seasons. What a mess!!

Ahhhh of course, lest we never forget that Eve also has a penchant for the penis. Thanks LN. None of us know what bisexuality is unless you shove it right in our faces!

Konstantin's death was as sloppy and pointless as Villanelle's. He died for no reason because 1) I'm not sure what Helene's motivation was for killing him anyway. She had blackmail over him with the money thing and that gave her all sorts of power, so why kill him? and 2) Like you said, once Pam actually did it, Helene was dead so he literally didn't have to die. Why?? What was the point?? Another death where the cruelty was the point, but at least he had Pam with him and she took care of him after. Villanelle wasn't granted that courtesy

I think the only reason LN killed Daddy K is because it gave her a "plausible" defense when it came to killing V as well (it didn't, I'm just speaking on behalf of LN's warped mindset). I think she figured she could argue, "well Konstantin died too because characters like him and V were always on borrowed time". Carolyn has had way more shady contacts and connections than K or V ever did and somehow she not only survives but thrives? GTFO with that bullshit

I liked Pam, but she was pointless. Literally you could take her out of the entire last season and what would change other than Daddy K dying? Nothing. She was in the finale and for what??? She didn't do a god damned thing other than inform V of Daddy K's passing. I've seen people try to argue "Well Pam is who Villanelle could've been had she walked away." Nah bruh. To act like Villanelle and Pam were ever on a level playing field is inherently false. Pam had a shit situation with her brother no doubt, but she also had options. She could leave and start a life elsewhere, and ultimately that's what she did. Villanelle never had that option. She had already been targeted from the time she was 9 years old in the orphanage. Pam basically started working for the Twelve because she said Helene was nice to her and she "thought she could be good at it". For Villanelle, it was literally about survival. So if they were trying to parallel Villanelle and Pam, they did a piss poor job of it, though that shouldn't surprise me.

Gunn was pointless too. Again, I see arguments that she is supposed to be what Villanelle could become?? Villanelle had already chosen not to continue to be a part of the Twelve, so not sure why that parallel was warranted or needed. Other arguments said it was to show that Villanelle didn't want domesticity with anyone but Eve. Okay, but LN force fed us the bullshit after the finale about Villanelle didn't really want domesticity with Eve either. So again I ask, what was the point?

None of these characters drove the story. All of them could have been removed and pretty much the same exact shit could've happened. That's piss poor storytelling and a waste of screen time

[starring-movies]

Killing Eve: Episode Analysis

*SPOILERS*

Season 2, Episode 8 - You’re Mine

The finale of Season 2 begins with the continuation of the operation in Rome. Hugo comes back with coffee for himself and Eve, after they slept together the night before, and he calls Eve, “Mrs Robinson”. This is a reference to the 1967 film, ‘The Graduate’; which is about a young college graduate (just like Hugo), who is seduced by a much older woman, called Mrs. Robinson (like Eve).

While Eve is in the hotel room, listening through the earpiece, she hears Villanelle say the safe word, “gentleman”; after Villanelle sees that Raymond is one of the buyers coming to look into the weapon that Aaron Peel is selling.

After hearing Villanelle say the safe word, just as Eve is about to tell Hugo, she hears him being shot and she hides from the shooter by lying under the bed in the room. After the shooter has left, Eve goes to help Hugo, but she just tells him to put pressure on his wound and then decides to leave him behind, so that she can go to help Villanelle. As Eve is walking away and Hugo is shouting for her to help him, ‘Her’ by Unloved can be heard in the background. Some of the lyrics of the song are:

“There were no candles lit,

The room was dark as night,

Just like the corners of my mind,

I gave my heart to her,

She has my heart”

The last time this song was used was in S1E4, but in that instance it was used for Villanelle, while she was waiting for Eve to come to the crime scene, but Eve doesn’t show up. When the song was used in S1E4, it was to illustrate how Villanelle had given her heart to Eve, and so Eve was the one who had Villanelle’s heart. Whereas this time, it is used to show how Eve has given her heart to Villanelle, and so now Villanelle is the one who holds Eve’s heart. In fact Eve’s heart belongs to Villanelle so much so, that she is willing to leave Hugo (who for all she knows might die) just so that she can go and ‘save’ Villanelle, who is perfectly capable of taking care of herself.

When Eve arrives at Aaron’s palazzo, Aaron tells Villanelle “I’ll give you everything you want”, which echoes when Villanelle asked Eve “will you give me everything I want?”, in S2E5. In saying this (in the same way that we are reminded of what Villanelle said to Eve), Aaron might have similarly reminded Villanelle of what she had previously asked Eve - and in turn, reminded her that Eve is actually everything she wants. So when Aaron asks Villanelle to kill Eve, she knows that if she does kill Eve like he’s asking her to do, she will never be able to have “everything” she wants.

After Villanelle kills Aaron, she and Eve decide to split up because Eve needs to get the recordings from the hotel room and Villanelle needs to find them a way to escape. When Eve arrives at the hotel room, everything has been cleaned up and Carolyn is waiting in the room to speak to Eve. Eve tells her that Aaron is dead and Carolyn asks her “did you kill him?”, indicating that she has obviously been observing Eve’s behaviour and thinks that she is capable of killing. Eve indignantly, and rather taken aback, tells Carolyn “of course not” when she is asked this, which foreshadows the argument that she and Villanelle have at the end of the episode - everyone else (Villanelle, Carolyn, The Ghost) can see her darkness, but Eve herself is still unwilling to accept it.

While Eve is speaking to Carolyn, and Villanelle is speaking to Konstantin, we can see the trust that Villanelle and Eve have in one another, as well as how they both are aware of how much they mean to each other. The two paralleled conversations are almost mirrored with one other: Eve says “you don’t know that” to Carolyn, when she tells Eve that Villanelle “wouldn’t do the same for you”; and Villanelle says “she wouldn’t”, when Konstantin says “what if she’s left with Carolyn already?”.

The entire goal of Villanelle and Eve’s characters’ journeys in this season is encapsulated when Konstantin asks Villanelle “what is it about her?”, and Villanelle tells him that it’s because “we’re the same”. For the entirety of Season 2, we have been shown how Villanelle and Eve are two sides of the same coin, and especially how Eve has been becoming more like Villanelle in her behaviour; so Villanelle saying this, just ties together everything they’ve done throughout the season that has made them become more “the same” as each other.

As Villanelle is waiting for Eve outside of the hotel, she gets anxious and goes to look for Eve inside. When Villanelle climbs the stairs of the hotel, she finds that Raymond has been waiting for her so that he can kill her (like Konstantin warned her). A fight ensues and Raymond starts choking Villanelle, nearly killing her. But when Raymond sees Eve with his axe, he says to Villanelle that “she’s not going to do it is she? She doesn’t have it in her”, which parallels when Villanelle said to Eve in S1E8 “you can’t”. In both of those moments, Eve was being underestimated and surprises the person who was underestimating her by following through and doing what they claimed she couldn’t - by stabbing Villanelle in S1E8 and killing Raymond in this episode.

While Villanelle is trying to encourage Eve to finish killing Raymond, she shouts “imagine he’s a log” at her. In S3E5, Villanelle tells Pyotr “I used to do woodwork”, so her knowledge in woodworking is probably why the first things that comes to her mind is to tell Eve to imagine Raymond is a log.

When they escape to the Roman ruins, after Eve has killed Raymond, Villanelle tells her that they could go to live in Alaska and that “we’d be normal”. We can see that normality and a mundane life, like that which Eve lives, is something that Villanelle has been yearning for since Season 1. In S1E5 she tells Eve “I know I’m not normal”, in S1E8 she says to Eve that she wants “normal things” and in S2E1 she tells Gabriel “I’m not normal you know”. She also offers to make dinner for her and Eve, and tells her “I’ll look after you”, which similarly shows her desire to have a normal and domestic life with Eve.

After Eve finds out that Villanelle manipulated her into killing Raymond, Villanelle tells her “I wanted you to know how it feels, how did it feel?”. In doing this, Villanelle is actually answering one of the things which Eve tells Villanelle that she thinks about in S1E8. In S1E8, Eve says to Villanelle, “I think about your eyes and your mouth, and how you feel when you kill someone”. So by getting Eve to kill Raymond, Villanelle probably thinks she’s being caring and doing something helpful for her, so that now Eve will have an answer and get to know for herself “how you feel when you kill someone”.

Eve goes on to tell Villanelle that “I’m like you now”. This is probably true, as although Eve had already been displaying a number of similarities to Villanelle, she had not gone as far as to cross the line to kill someone. But crossing that line is most likely what allows Eve to start to accept her “monster” and the existence of her “darkness”, becoming the most like Villanelle, in Season 3 - while she is holding onto denial regarding these aspects of herself, she can not truly be like Villanelle.

We also see Villanelle’s confusion at Eve’s reaction to killing Raymond, which is what she thought would help Eve, telling her “it’s what YOU wanted”. Villanelle can see Eve’s darkness (and has done for a long time), just like The Ghost did in S2E5 when she asked Eve “do you want to do it yourself?”; and so Villanelle can also see that this actually is what Eve wanted, and in turn she can’t understand why Eve does’t see what she sees. However, because Eve hasn’t come to terms with, nor accepted her darkness, she rejects Villanelle (and therefore also rejects her own darkness) - which is a problem we see repeated in S3E5, and why Villanelle similarly decides to kill her mother just like she shoots Eve in this episode.

Villanelle goes on to tell Eve that she loves her, but Eve says to her that “you don’t understand what that is”. Villanelle then possessively tells her “you’re mine”. Villanelle saying this proves that, although she may have deep feelings and an obsession for Eve, it’s not until S3E8 that we can see that Villanelle has found out what loving Eve really is - when she’s willing to let her go and never see her for the rest of her life, rather than claiming Eve as an object which belongs to her (like her clothes or money).

Villanelle also says to Eve that she “thought you were special”. Villanelle thought that Eve was different from her mother, Anna and Nadia; all of whom either weren’t able to do the things that Eve can or wouldn’t accept the darkness they had inside of them - Anna and Nadia weren’t able to shoot Villanelle like Eve was able to stab her, Anna wasn’t able to admit her feelings for Villanelle to herself and Villanelle’s mother wasn’t able to accept her darkness (like Villanelle thought Eve would be able to accept her darkness). Konstantin’s prophetic warning about Villanelle to Eve in S2E3, that “she’ll love you to death”, has indeed come true.

You can read my previous Killing Eve posts here:-

First Introduction to Villanelle

First Introduction to Eve

S1, E1 - Nice Face

S1, E2 - I’ll Deal With Him Later

S1, E3 - Don’t I Know You?

S1, E4 - Sorry Baby

S1, E5 - I Have a Thing about Bathrooms

S1, E6 - Take Me to the Hole!

S1, E7 - I Don’t Want to Be Free

S1, E8 - God, I’m Tired

S2, E1 - Do You Know How to Dispose of a Body?

S2, E2 - Nice and Neat

S2, E3 - The Hungry Caterpillar

S2, E4 - Desperate Times

S2, E5 - Smell Ya Later

S2, E6 - I Hope You Like Missionary!

S2, E7 - Wide Awake

S3, E1 - Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey

S3, E2 - Management Sucks

S3, E3 - Meetings Have Biscuits

S3, E4 - Still Got It

S3, E5 - Are You From Pinner? [Part 1]

S3, E5 - Are You From Pinner? [Part 2]

S3, E6 - End of Game

S3, E7 - Beautiful Monster

S3, E8 - Are You Leading or Am I? [Part 1]

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[saintdollyparton]

Interviewers/critics/fans/etc have gushed since early on in the first season how amazing Sandra and Jodie’s chemistry is and they always specifically mention how impressive it is that they manage it with so few scenes actually TOGETHER. Like the vast majority of season 1 was them physically apart and not directly interacting but you could just FEEL the presence of the other in the scenes whenever they’re thinking about each other or looking for each other, which is a majority of the time. So in the few scenes of them actually together in season 1, that tension is so high and deliciously heart-pounding and nerve-wracking. It’s an addictive quality for a viewer. Then they end it the way they did and we’re just like HOW DO YOU COME BACK FROM THAT? HOW DO YOU MOVE FORWARD?! 

But it was almost necessary... for the story? Like I can’t imagine it having gone any other way. Eve stabbing Villanelle was essential for the furthering of the story and the characters, and it also shifted their dynamic to the point where I don’t think that addictive tension of seeing them together/almost together on screen will ever go away. It’s something I thought about, actually... if, once we actually got them TOGETHER, the anticipation/excitement and tension would start to fizzle. But it hasn’t... it just morphs slightly depending on the situation and continues with the same intensity. If anything, the tension was a hell of a lot higher in the first few episodes of season 2 than it was in the finale of season 1. Because now we KNOW... we know how badly they actually crave each other. So the “almost” scenes where they’re so damn close to being reunited again... especially Villanelle dropping the lipstick in Eve’s bag and them on opposite sides of the hotel door... are just *chef’s kiss.* THEN we get them actually together again in episode 5 and it’s so similar but also so different from episode 5 of season 1. They end up in the same position but they know each other so much better and Eve is now facing a different version of herself as well that is realizing “I want this.”

From that point on, we’ve seen them actually working together, which is something so many of us wanted but didn’t know if we’d really get. But what if that changes things? What if part of the excitement has always just been the cat and mouse of it all? With them interacting so much, again, we wonder if maybe their tension and chemistry will start to fizzle or get boring/predictable? How can you keep that up?! It has to start to fade eventually, right? It does the exact opposite. Whether they are on different continents, or in the same room with barely a breath between them, that chemistry is just... phew! They’re completely magnetic, always working their way towards one another and once they’re truly together, they don’t want to be apart. We see how that tension remains but they also seem to really compliment each other in some ways and challenge each other in others. They share a job and tease/make jokes and TEXT and so many things that are both domestic but also rife with sexual innuendo and tension. They’re getting to know each other while also already knowing each other better than anyone else. The energy around them is tense but it’s inevitable and their version of normal... they just FIT. Everything about them is as undeniable as it is unhealthy, but it is completely their natural state... they’re two tigers circling each other, deciding whether to fight or fuck, but either way someone will pounce.

Just... bravo Jodie and Sandra for being able to create and maintain such a unique, strong, and addictive dynamic that doesn’t wane in the slightest.

[milfpolastri]

i think i wrote a thing?

“I think I will leave soon”

They are on the couch. There is a movie on, but Eve doesn’t think either one of them is watching it. Villanelle’s head is on her lap and she might just as well be holding a loaded grenade in her hands, but instead of scared she feels privileged to be able to hold it without it going off and blowing her face off with it.

It’s been raining all day and the gloomy not-quite-light of the evening has washed the room with blue light, that somehow feels peaceful instead of heavy, despite the rainclouds. Her hands have fallen into Villanelle’s blonde hair without her giving them the order to do so and the girl seems so content she could start purring like a cat any time now.

It’s a beautiful moment, really.

Eve closes her eyes against the stinging she feels, a direct reaction to Villanelle’s words even though she has known for a while now that they would be coming. Her hands don’t stop their motions, but the shaking she suddenly can’t control must be noticeable.

What can she say?

Please don’t go. I might have gone mad with you but I will die without you. Please.

But she can’t say any of that, because after all this time she refuses to lose that tiny piece of pride. She doesn’t think Villanelle is the kind of person you beg to stay, anyway. The silence stretches, thick like honey between them, and they aren’t looking at each other. There is nothing in Villanelle’s demeanour that suggests she just dropped a bomb on Eve’s heart. 

Eve takes a deep breath, so deep that it feels like her chest opens, her ribs crack and she is bleeding everywhere, uncontrollably.

“Where?” she asks and her voice, despite being a whisper, sounds too loud in the room. Why? When? Why? Why?

Villanelle rubs her cheek against Eve’s thigh like an actual cat.

“Away. They will come for me, eventually. They will find me here.” 

And that’s probably the truth, which is why it hurts so much. God, Eve wasn’t supposed to fall for Villanelle, the dark obsession that used to keep her up at nights, that used to scare her shitless wasn’t supposed to be the feeling that surfaced from all the turmoil. She is supposed to hate this woman, to loathe the person who has taken everything from her. And yet, here she is, stroking her hair and swallowing sobs over something she knew was to happen. They were always running on borrowed time.

Will you come back, she wants to ask, but doesn’t. Instead she holds onto Villanelle’s hair a little tighter, and it must hurt a little but she doesn’t say a word. The quiet fills the room again and in the gloomy evening light everything seems so.. normal. Domestic, somehow. The end credits have started rolling on the tv.

After a while, despite Eve’s hold on her hair, Villanelle turns onto her back so she can look at Eve for the first time since the conversation started.  Eve knows her cheeks must be wet from the tears, but she doesn’t care. It’s not like Villanelle doesn’t know. Not like she doesn’t know Eve better than she knows herself, all her deepest darkest secrets that are so ugly they have turned into something beautiful. Villanelle knows it all because she knows Eve, because Eve belongs to her now. Or maybe she always has.

Villanelle’s eyes are curious, but where there is usually a mischievous spark, there is now something very serious.

“Would you like to run away with me, Eve Polastri?”

Eve can feel her face break into a smile before she has time to be scared.

[thecobaltmonk]

I need to know honestly babe: do you think Eve and Villanelle will at least KISS in season 2??? I am so cautiously optimistic but some articles make it seem like they'll just be violent in the last episode, Sandra and Jodie are being so damn cryptic and I am still burned by so much fucking queer bait I just cannot bear it if this season and series doesn't follow through...(p.s. all those gifs of V in hotel rooms in hot outfits, and Eve visiting her, makes me imagine things...)

sorry it’s taken me a bit to get to this! this might be a little long winded and may have said more than what you were looking for.

I lean on the side of i’m pretty sure they will at least kiss this season. sandra and jodie have to be cryptic about the later episodes of the season they dont want to spoil things but they have never shied away from talking about the romantic/sexual attraction both character have toward one another. if they don’t kiss this season then i still wouldn’t be mad or upset or even disappointed bc this show is leading us in that direction that it will happen at some point. it’s not like either character is going to just wake up one day and utterly hate the other, if that were the case that would have happened after the stabbing, one would assume. And really Sandra has been anything BUT cryptic, she has said more than i ever thought she would. TBH i always thought if anyone was going to spoil half the things sandra has it would have been jodie bc she almost let stuff slip last season but she has been more of the brick wall of secrets than anyone.

all of that being said though i wouldn’t look to the future of the show and expect they are ever going to be in a real relationship like any other tv couple. as much as i support soft!villanelle and love me some domestic!villaneve it’s a stretch to think that’s ever going to happen on the show (i mean other than getting the softer villanelle that we already get from time to time). and it wouldn’t really fit with the tone of the show as a whole. like ok they get together…then what? so it’s going to be push and pull with them up until the very end.

I’ll tell you my biggest fear is that this show will end the way 99% of the fandom thinks where one of them (odds being villanelle) dies and then it’s going to get attacked for “queerbaiting” when it really hasn’t done that. something a lot of people get wrong sometimes is that there is a difference in queerbaiting and having different expectations for a show than what the show truly is. it’s a show about obsession and temptation, those are the themes, so if it ends and we have just always been teased with the temptation eve has toward villanelle and her own darkness than i’d say the show did what it set out to do and id be happy with it.

With all of that said and done though I’d say we should feel confident that they will very likely kiss during the duration of the show and hell i’d say it’s also very likely they will sleep together at some point, but if they don’t i would not define the show as queerbaiting. 

[rorykillmore]

Hey I know you touched on it in spears ask but it was so fascinating hearing you talk about her, can you say more about like. How denny has effected villanelle and how its changed her outlook and approach to some things (like the oksana plot for example...)

to use a weird analogy, i always think of denny!villanelle as like. you know when people adopt like, tigers or cougars and swear up and down that they’re domesticated for years and then one day, like a switch flipping, the cat turns on them and mauls them? yeah,

of course it is a little complicated than that because for all of my jokes, she is a person, but...

okay let’s start with GRACE because although they are about to really fuck up her life pretty soon, GRACE has actually been an essential component in villanelle’s. relative stability. villanelle is... she doesn’t have the pathology of a legit serial killer where she “needs” to kill, necessarily, but she desperately needs stimulation, excitement, action, violence, etc. without that kind of outlet, she gets bored, and when she’s bored is when she tends to... seriously misbehave, to say the least.

so ironically (given what’s about to go down), being a part of something that keeps her busy and knows how to use her skills very effectively has been a big part of what kept her. grounded enough in the other parts of her life to be able to do things like bond with other people! it’s also helped that, up until recently, villanelle hasn’t really perceived GRACE as as much of an invasive threat to her as the twelve were, doesn’t feel like she’s on as tight of a “leash”, and has thus been a little more relaxed in her position there..... her mistake,

but another major facet of her life on denny that has undoubtedly had a huge effect on her is also just... the simultaneous normalcy of it! for awhile it’s worked out that she’s gotten to have this exciting life as an assassin while also like... having consistent and normalized? relationships? not just vague acquaintances that she sees in passing every day, but like, actual consistent, friendly contact with other people. the opportunity to have “friends”, which she might treat very flippantly as a concept, but none the less it’s something she’s never really had before. and that’s fascinating to me! villanelle gets to (or has gotten to, at least) hang around people she enjoys and is fond of without feeling threatened and without having that disrupted for long enough to actually get... attached to the concept, and even to legitimately bond with a couple of those people in strange, stilted ways

fox and ruby are definitely among the highest on the list for being worth mentioning in that regard. you wanted me to talk about the whole oksana thing so just briefly i’ll say that that was incredibly... like, formative to hers and fox’s relationship. that’s something she doesn’t tell anyone about, generally, and there aren’t a lot of surviving people who even knew her from back then, so the fact that fox experienced that part of her really contributes to making her feel like he’s at least starting to know... all of her. which is really jarring and rare.

ruby, in contrast, knows hardly anything about villanelle at the end of the day (though to be fair, at the same time, hunter and i have talked about the fact that ruby simultaneously... knows some of the most well-hidden and important parts of villanelle), but their relationship has been so essential in villanelle trying to figure out how experiencing empathy... works. masky and weiss have done that too, but that happened in a completely different context and one that was kind of negative for all three of them at the time, like when you relate to someone in a really... bad way. ruby stands out as the person villanelle actually tries to empathize with because she wants to, and that’s a really huge thing. there’s a lot of modern research about people with low empathy paired with other psychopathic or sociopathic traits having to need to choose to be empathetic (whereas most people are to some degree empathetic by default) rather than just not being capable of it at all, so i try to incorporate that when i’m building her more positive relationships

and also while i’m talking about how her relationships have affected her, i need to of course talk about eve because, OBVIOUSLY. eve is so important to villanelle, probably the most important thing to villanelle. i think if eve hadn’t been around we probably, to some extent, would have seen villanelle more volatile, because she’d be looking for... some way to fill that hole in her life. but instead, her and eve have been actually kind of... coexisting. of course it’s not an objectively ideal situation because eve has like! no kind of emotional support system! so it was very easy for villanelle to just whisk her away for Murder Adventures and start nudging eve into an increasingly dark place, but at the same time, i think eve sometimes pushes villanelle into a lighter one. villanelle wants to have a life with eve, wants for that to work SO BADLY that there’s a lot that she would probably be willing to try to do at this point (not that i’m saying all of it would work out). as it is, she is at least... making a genuine effort to get eve to trust her, which entails trying to be honest and aware of eve’s feelings, so that’s a start!

things working out as they have also just means that like. villanelle kind of, sort of, in a sense has this one thing she really really wants, on top of having a job she likes, and a life she likes. overall, up until recently, she’s! probably been the closest to happy as she’s capable of being! barring some of her usual disconnect/loneliness/frustrations because of that, because of course the lot of the people she likes aren’t people she can really, fully be herself around, for obvious reasons (the exceptions being eve and konstantin and kind of fox). and i think that’s something villanelle’s had deep, underlying issues with since anna (who was the woman she was in love with when she was a teenager, long, messy story). but. that aside, the bottom line being that villanelle, for most of her life on denny, hasn’t really wanted for much in either her professional or her personal life.  and that’s kept her from lashing out or being as unpredictable as... she sometimes can be, which also means that the relationships she’s had so far have had the time and space for development, and that she’s had the time and space to learn... maybe how to care about people, kind of!

all of this having been said, i DON’T think villanelle has questioned her morals or changed her outlook on that at all. she’s undoubtedly had some development in other areas, but she is still pretty rigidly a remorseless killer who enjoys her job. nothing has happened to change that, and outside of the people she’s close to, she doesn’t really... view other people as people, still. i think graceplot as a whole is interesting for her because it DOES have a lot of potential to force her into some more emotional development/make her face a lot of inner conflict as well as outer conflict, but also like!! it has a lot of potential to push her into circumstances where she’s much more... feral! at the end of the day, she’s not relatively well-behaved because she’s changed (although obviously in some ways she has), but because her life is convenient, and she’s content with it. if you throw a whole entire wrench into that and turn everything upside down and make her desperate, i... mean, i don’t know, she can be incredibly unpredictable. just like that “tamed” tiger, no matter how likeable and funny and endearing villanelle can be, you always have to remember that she could decide to bite

but she’s also not even the person she was when she first got to denny, so i think all of these elements are going to combine in a way that’ll be really fun to play and hopefully really fun to watch, whatever happens!!

[loving-villanelle]

I would NEVER stick up for Lauren Seal, but in this one case she didn’t say the kiss was unromantic. She indicated the setting was one of the most unromantic ways to lead to a kiss.

I mean fuck her anyway but at least she didn’t try to take that.

Someone claimed the reason Eve was so mad was because they did walk away from each other so she was totally put out by Villanelle showing back up at all, different person or not. Okay then… so pick up on the bridge and actually show them walking away.

It STILL wouldn’t fix anything about this cluster of a season because the storylines were dumb no matter how you slice it. I hated *most* of it and after ep 3 or so just kept watching to see how bad it could good. Oof paint me full of regret.

If Lauren thinks she wrote 2 people that wouldn’t work domestically, then Sandie just completely ignored her. Those bitches are smitten AF.

No, they won’t live in “domestic bliss,” dumbass. WHATEVER THAT EVE IS. They’ll still be murder wives imo. I’d absolutely love to see the story where V is like “I’m gonna have to kill my boss” and Eve says “I have the go bags packed. Where do you want to move this time?”

Why does a “happy ending” have to look normal when the whole point of the story is you can be loved for your light and your dark and life is all about finding and being who you really are?!?! Over here baffled at Lauren Seal & SWG’s read on this story and their blatant incompetence.

I mean even if they did walk away though, EVE LOOKED BACK. So are we really to believe she'd be THAT mad about seeing Villanelle again?? Especially when Eve was way deeper into the Twelve than V was at that point, so it's not like she could blame her for that either. But to the rest...*nods enthusiastically*