#if you invest so much in something that is a)fictional and b) wasn't your creation it's only because you made it important for you

[mean-vampyre]

The tv shows should get cancelled because disgusting people don't deserve a legacy. "But it's my entire life I need--" fandom can outlive a cancelled show, go read fanfiction or wathever, let that man rot in the hell of being forgotten.

[beels-burger-babe]

Hidden Emotions - Deaf!MC AU

***We're back at it again with the Deaf!MC AU! I am so glad that you guys are enjoying this AU so much, I most certainly love this whole series so dearly. Thank you all for the love and support -B***

Summary: MC and Levi take a day to introduce Satan and Asmodeus to the joys of anime and TSL! But the darkness of Leviathan's room, hidden feelings begin to reveal themselves.

Series Masterlist

Satan and Asmodeus sighed as Leviathan and you excitedly scurried around the room gathering blankets, pillows and snacks.

"You two will not regret this!" Levi cheered as he laid out a Ruri-Chan blanket and pillow against the side of his bathtub.

Asmo lazily scrolled through Devilgram, "Whatever you say," he quickly turned and posed beside you as he held his D.D.D. up. "Smile for the fans!"

You awkwardly smiled as Asmo snapped the photo and giggled to himself before posting it.

Levi scowled and threw a pillow at his brother. "Hey! You are in otaku territory! Leave that normie stuff outside the room! You agreed to learn about the wonders of anime and the Tales of the Seven Lords, now you must commit!"

Asmo rolled his eyes, but turned off his D.D.D. and put it down. "Only because I'm so curious what could've possibly caught this cutie's attention even more than me," he purred as he leaned towards you.

You scrunched up your nose as you typed out your message, "Well for starters, Henry and the Seven Lords are fictional and know how to give me my personal space," you made a shooing motion with your hand as the robotic voice rang out.

Asmo's eyes widened in surprise while Levi cackled in the background and gestured for you to join him by the bathtub. "LOL! Get burned, Asmo!"

Asmo whined and turned to Satan with pleading eyes. The blond shrugged and took his seat a little ways away from you and Leviathan. "Don't look at me. You got yourself in this mess."

Asmodeus pouted and turned to the screen that Leviathan had set up. "It's fine. At least this way I'll get a better understanding of what your type is."

Levi made a gagging noise and went through the CD menu for TSL put to the subtitles on. "Stop it! Not in my room!"

You smiled and happily squirmed as the opening sequence for TSL began to play. It wasn't the same as watching the show with your hearing aids in and getting to listen to the songs and voices, but with your seat next to the speaker, you could still feel the rhythm of the melodies and the bass in the characters' voices. It just added to the experience of rewatching your favourite series — and maybe the knowledge that you didn't even have to ask Levi to turn the subtitles on for you added to the warmth in your chest, but nobody needed to know that.

You and Levi explained the show and the relevance of some of the less obvious subtexts to Satan and Asmo as it went on — though it was mainly Leviathan doing the talking as it was a little difficult to make signs or speech-reading in the dim lighting. You would occasionally perk up and hurriedly type a fun fact out on your D.D.D. splitting your attention between the screen and phone.

While Asmodeus was only half paying attention to the movie and only seemed to ask questions for the sole purpose of getting your attention back onto him, Satan was genuinely enjoying the experience.

Although everyone knew that Satan's genre of choice was mystery or crime, he had to admit that the writing of these movies was quite well done. The plot was intriguing and carefully crafted to leave the viewer invested for the entirety of the film. The characters were quite deep with each of the seven lords having their own personal conflict and personality; Satan found himself drawn to the Lord of Masks.

He was impressed.

In truth, he didn't really need any of the explanations that you and Leviathan were giving off, by all means, he should've left the room and done something more productive with his time as you were clearly taken care of here. But for some illogical reason, he stayed, and for all his years of studies, he couldn't figure out why.

You had gotten through three of the seven movies when Asmodeus's boredom hit a peak. He glanced over at you and smirked. Why should he of all people suffer in boredom when there was a perfectly good source of entertainment right there? He had to admit, it bruised his ego earlier when a little mortal such as yourself brushed off his charm with such ease, but if nothing else, it raised his curiosity in you. Not just anybody was capable of turning away from the Gem of the Devildom and he wanted to get to know one of the few that could on a more ... personal level.

Asmo silently and slowly moved closer to you as you and Levi remained transfixed on the intense fight scene currently happening on screen. He tilted his head in interest as he allowed his eyes to take in the outline of your body just barely visible from the screen's harsh light. His gaze fixed itself on the twinkling joy in your eyes and the damn-near angelic smile gracing your face and he couldn't help but smile as well.

The Avatar of Lust covertly leaned in, his hand reaching for your waist, when suddenly his wrist was snatched up by a scowling Satan. The blond glared at his brother as he yanked him to his feet. Levi, finally noting the movement happening, glanced back at the two in confusion.

"We're just going to get some more snacks," Satan informed him as his hold tightened on Asmodeus's wrist. "Keep watching. We'll be back soon."

Levi shrugged and pointed at something on the screen before leaning forward to sign to you.

Asmo didn't even get the chance to protest before Satan dragged the two of them out of the room.

The moment the door shut behind them, Satan whipped around and sneered at his brother. "What in Diavolo's name were you doing?"

Asmodeus rolled his eyes and lazily waved his hand as he began to walk towards the kitchen. "Relax. Don't get your panties in a twist. I was just going to tease them a little bit. No harm done."

Satan narrowed his eyebrows as he followed his brother. "They already told you they weren't interested, Asmodeus."

Asmo shrugged, "They just don't know what they're missing yet. Everyone wants me at some point, Satan. I'm irresistible."

Satan grabbed Asmo's shoulder and forced him around to face him. "Stop it. You're going to make them uncomfortable. They don't want you."

Hurt flickered across Asmodeus's expression before his eyes hardened. He slapped Satan's hand away and huffed before straightening out his clothes. "Why do you care? I flirt with people all the time. It's basically my job. Why do you suddenly care if I mess with a measly, little human?" He raised an eyebrow at him. Satan's eyes widened as his stance faltered and Asmodeus moved into his space. "Do you know what I think? I think you want them for yourself. I think they've got your cold, frigid heart wrapped around their finger and it makes you angry to imagine anyone else with them."

Satan felt his face heat up in a mixture of embarrassment and frustration. "It's not like that-"

"Isn't it though?" Asmo cut off with a sharp tongue. "How else do you explain what just happened in Leviathan's room?"

Satan frowned in confusion. "What do you mean?"

Asmo tilted his head as his eyes bore into his brother's. "I mean you staying. We both know you didn't need to. You're more of a book person than a movie person, and if you were that interested in the plot you would've just read the books on your own. Not to mention you let MC and Levi go on and on about those stupid characters when you definitely figured it all out on your own. And don't try to say it's because you're in charge of supervising them because we both know that you don't give a damn what Lucifer thinks and the only reason agreed to watch them at all was for your own amusement."

Satan stood there frozen, breath caught in his lungs and Asmodeus's words pierced through him.

Asmodeus tsked and pulled back. "It's pathetic really. You may think I'm too blinded by my own beauty to see what MC truly wants, but it sounds to me that you're the one who's ignorant here," without even so much as a glare, Asmo turned on his heel and marched away towards his bedroom.

Satan remained staring at the place Asmo once stood, his mind and heart running a hundred miles a minute.

What did that mean? What did any of this mean?

He looked off in the direction Asmodeus took off in and frowned. As much as Satan didn't want to admit it, he had a point. There was something deeper than selfish amusement that motivated him to stay close to you, but what could it possibly be.

He needed to do research.

Satan sighed and finished his trek to the kitchen, grabbing a couple bags of popcorn before making his way back to the room.

He found himself frozen once more as he opened the door.

The lights had been turned on in his absence, and you were watching Leviathan with wide, sparkling eyes as Levi, dressed in his Lord of Shadows mask signed out what seemed to be a scene from the show complete with dramatic facial expressions and gestures.

"And that's when Henry came in and saved him! They're the best!" Leviathan finished off as he slid his mask onto his head.

You nodded in excited agreement. "Yes! But that doesn't even begin to compare to their friendship pact that was made in the fourth episode of season three! The Lord of Shadow has such a cool limited edition costume in that episode!"

Leviathan's face lit up as he began to bounce lightly on the balls of his feet. "Right!!! Hold on! I have the limited edition figure they released for that episode!" You gasped as he began to dart around his room, searching his merch collection.

Satan felt his heart clench at the interaction and hesitated at the sensation.

Why was he getting upset over the two of you geeking out? It wasn't like it wasn't anything he hadn't seen before. In fact, you and Levi did this practically every day... spending private time together ... passionately sharing the things you love ... taking joy in finally having someone who understands you.

Satan shook his head to dismiss that trail of thoughts. It was fine. Everything was fine. He'd look more into things later, but for now, he'd push aside and focus on the task at hand.

He flickered the lights of the room on and off. You glanced up at the lights before turning to face him. You smiled softly at Satan and waved at him in greeting before cocking an eyebrow. "Where's Asmo?"

Satan shrugged and passed you a bag of popcorn. "He decided this wasn't really his thing," Levi gave him a curious glance from the other side of the room. "But I brought you some popcorn that we just happened to have leftover from our last delivery from the human world."

You grinned brightly and took the bag from him. "Oh thank god! Something normal!" you giggled around a mouthful of popcorn. "No offence, but your guys' food is so weird here."

Your mouth was covered in popcorn crumbs, and your cheeks were puffed out like chipmunks, yet Satan strangely felt his face warm and the knowledge that you were pleased with what he brought you.

"URGH!" Satan's head whipped around as Levi let out a shout of frustration. Your eyes tracked the movement and you quickly looked over at your friend. "Where did it go? I know that I bought that figure it was here on this shelf!"

Satan sighed, seeing where this was going. "Has Mammon been in your room lately?"

Levi paused before his eyes flashed with rage. "That's it! I've had it with that thieving scumbag! We're getting back at him for everything he's put us through and we'll make him give us all our stuff back!"

Satan scoffed as he ate some of the popcorn from your bag, causing you to slap his hand. "And just how do you plan on doing that?"

An evil smile climbed onto Levi's face as he turned to you, "MC," he signed slowly as you nervously lowered your food. "What do you know about demon pacts?"

***This one was definitely interesting to write. I hope you all enjoyed it. Things are really starting to pick up with the plot here. Next up, as you can guess, is the canon-complicit pact being made with Mammon! Let the chaos begin. Thanks again for all your love and support for this series. I know it's slow updating since I've got so much going on, but it means a lot to see the comments you all leave ❤️***

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[gronjon44]

Welp... here we go...

If you dont want spoilers then I recommend you skip this entire post because I do not respect this film at all to not talk about the shit that happens in this film.

⚠️AFTER THIS LINE ITS ALL SPOILERS⚠️

This films wants to be an emotional gut punch but it is so... I your face about it. Emotional beats are either predictable or just... they don't hit. And the ultimate sacrifice from Bhgs at the end while sad just doesn't hit anything. And the plot of "Oh the main villain manipulates the kid to go against his dad and the villain ultimately joins the rival team" is really predictable. And I know that in the end this is a film targeted to kids and thats fine. But this film felt like it was trying to be too hip and too aware (the entire joke about LeBron acting hip and the 'don't dab' comment is just not funny)

The jokes

The jokes in this film do not land for me, albeit 2 (the joke about Sylvestar grabbing Michael B Jordan instead of the actual Michael Jordan was ok and the fact Wiley Coyote was in Mad Max was really cool) ; most the jokes either fell flat or completely missed the mark (this film tried to be hip and modern with its humor and honestly it was more cringe than anything else.

Also idk if this was intentional or not, but can we stop making jokes about how companies are stealing our info and spying on us? We get it Zuckerberg is trash Facebook and other big companies are taking our personal info but seriously it does get old. Mitchell's vs the Machines was at least clever because it was about a big tech company abusing it's power. Space Jam: A New Legacy is about an A.I trying to make himself feel better cause he doesn't feel appreciated and is projecting his issues on a kid he cyberstalked for a whopping 3 minutes.

The Plot

The films Plot is predictable, short, and a around not engaging. The idea of bringing another pro basketball player to aid the Tunes in another wild game for their survival isn't the problem, it's the rest of the Plot that's the problem.

The first film had a simple enough Plot that worked really well (The Tunes have to win a basketball game against roided up aliens or they'll become Amusement Park attractions, and they need a bow retired player to hp them win) Its short and sweet and it works.

This film felt the need to overcomicate it by forcing a dramatic subplot into the fold which, can work. You can have a dramatic subplot while still being a Zany and fun film. But SJ:NL can't seem to decide which to focus on; it goes from zany and over the top one moment moment then gives you tonal whiplash when it jumps to the dramatic bits in the plot.

I genuinely think that this film would've benefited from focusing on the zaniness over the drama, since frankly that's always been the focus of the Looney Tunes

Loony Tunes: Back in Action and Space Jam 1 are two tonaly similar films but both have better comedy and each have their respective dramatic beats, though their both saved for the climax of the film.

LT:BIA and SJ1 both have they're own dramatic subplots (M.J makes the deal with Smackhammer to raise the stakes of the game and J.D has to save his father from the Chairman and his plans. The difference here is that these films, while adding a level of drama, don't let the drama overshadow what tnis film is actually about (the Looney Tunes)

SJ:NL let's the drama completely overshadow the actual Tunes and isn't really engaging (to me anyway)

Also I'd like to say that, while giving this film a video game feel was an interesting concept it just reminded me more of Pixels or The Emoni Movie (though this wasn't NEARLY as bad as the Emoji movie I'll say that)

That's something else about this film. It feels like one big advertisement for everything WB owns (much like how Emoji Movie was one big Smartphone ad) and while that isn't inherently a bad thing it can be a hinderence to the film as well (I wanted to watch the films that cameod in this film more than the actual film itself)

The Characters

Look this is the Tom and Jerry film again, we don't go to this film for LeBron and his fictional family (if some people do then that's fine) but most of us go to see the film for the Tunes and the cartoon asthetic, and there's plenty of that here. But I'd like to actually care about the human characters in this film frankly.

Let's just get this out of the way, LeBron is not a great actor. He tries his best yes but he is not a great actor in this film; he reminds me more of Vin Deisel when he acts (he has a voice yes but he doesn't act physically. It's like he's trying to have his voice match the film but his body isn't in tune with it.

Now I don't wanna hate on kid actors, they do what they can and they're kids. But listen this kid was not interesting at all, and id have rathered the film not include him (or very least make him more interesting other than the "Gosh Dad stop pushing your ways and beliefs onto me" archetype.

The Tunes are fine I have no beef with how they treated the Tunes (all for ONE detail)

The way thsi film treats the Tunes in this film bothers me on so many levels. "Send him to the Rejects" "Losers" The fact that they treat the Looney Tunes like they're some forgotten property is really unsettling to me. The Tunes have never been forgotten the notion that they ARE forgotten bothers me so much, regardless if it's a plot point for the film. The Looney Tunes are some of the most recognizable faces in ask of media, and I get this is supposed to be a "New School vs Old School" message like with the Father vs Son but my God I do not like how this protrays the Tunes.

Speaking of the rejects, let's talk about AL G Rythm.

My God this is the most uninteresting villain and his whole plan is so easy to spot from the start of the film. "Oh look at me, I have a bruised ego cause I feel unappreciated in my time and im gonna project my issues on this kid I cyberstalked while praying KING JAMES would bless me with his support." Holy shit my guy you have a bigger ego than Tony Stark and its more bruised than Bruce Wayne's back after Bane was finished. He is one of the most bland villains I've seen in awhile, and the Goon Squad is no better. The Goon Squad is nothing but cool designs and a refderence to more popular Basketball players (and yeah they're supposed to be cronies but at least make them cronies with personality; the Nerdlucks were funny, had personality, and were an integral part of the story (also the fact that they ACTUALLY HAD THE NERDLUCKS CAMEO in in film but they were rooting against the Tunes just... Ehhhhhhhhhh) And the Goon Squad was boring and didn't add anything say for AL G. stealing the kids algorithm to make his own team.

Also sidenote, them constantly calling him "King James" got really annoying really fast. Like we get you gave yourself that nickname, you're the current too NBA player rn and all that but you don't have to keep saying it my God.

Now what did I actually like about this film. Well quite a bit actually.

For starters, the animation was top notch and everything looked great. I thought the 2D models were a little odd at first (too shiny compared to the faded sleek of the original) but they grew on me. All the CGI models of the Tunes looked really great, say for Sam who just looked really weird to me (probably cause he loses his hat by the end and a CGI Yosemeti Sam without a hat just looks strange)

The Tunes also felt exactly how they should in a Space Jam film, Bugs especially. Yes Daffy was his usual comedic self and I like how they had him try and be the manager of the team instead of a player, and every other Tune was just as zany as usual; honestly of all the Tunes I'm genuinely impressed with how they treated Bugs (till the end)

Bugs was the most interesting to see in the film, wherein every character left Tune World except Bugs and he kinda became this Castaway parody (with his own makeshift Porky Pig dummy) and he was just really lonely and stayed true to the Looney Way and he just wants his family back. That entire subplot is the most interesting part of this film hands down; the only thing about Bugs's arc I didn't like was the end which was predictable, but i was still more invested in Bugs's arc than anyone else's.

Also when they showed the Tunes on the other WB worlds in the Warnerverse that's not the name ik but it's basically the Warnerverse the only Movie refferences that i thought were clever were Mad Max, Austin Powers, and Themyscira. And as much as it pains me to admit it the Rick and Morty Gag with Taz was probably the funniest of them, and I don't even like Rick and Morty anymore.

The Matrix was just eh, Yosemite Sam just didn't land, Game of Thrones was just not funny and I won't apologize. As far as the cameos/refferences in the end I'll say it again, I wanted to watch the movies and shows that cameod more than the film itself. I'm not gonna try to list them off but some highlights were seeing Gremlins, the Mask, every Tim Burton Batman villain/Adam West Batman, Thundercats, and Scooby Doo. Aside from that this was all just one big add for Warner Bros.

So I'm gonna try end this on a note that I know alot of people are gonna bring up or use to say shouldn't be brought up: Nostalgia.

Listen. This film has the same issue that alot of modern film reboots tend to have, which is the fact that it has to match the same hype as the film that came before it.

Now I'd like to say that this isn't gonna be a Power Point on reboots, God knows this is long enough as is, but the issue with alot of reboots is that they try to remake something that more often than not did the media justice the first time around. Robocop, Nightmare on Elm Street, Ghostbusters 2016, litterally every Disney L.A Remake. This isn't to say these films can't be good, or even surpass their predecessors. But more often than not they tend to miss the mark either just barely or drastically.

And here's the thing, this argument can also apply to sequel films that are following up an iconic film that for fhe most part is still very prominent in modern media.

Space Jam has, for better or for worse, remained one of the most iconic films every made, if not for its premise alone. And when they announced a sequel it was only inevitable that people compare it to the original because, let's face it, we want the new film to live up to the original.

We want this new shiny film to live up to the film we all knew growing up as kids and adults, seeing the Tunes on a basketball court for the first time back in the 90s. And frankly, this film did not do that for me.

This film, to me, wants to be what Space Jam already is. But it felt the need to try and thats the first step it failed; it wanted to be hip and aware and make loads of refferences to the original

This film has a similar issue to Ghostbusters:Answer the Call I think, where in it wants to stand on its own two feet, but jt cant help but constantly remind us of a much superior film. We know they've done this before you don't have to keep saying it "We need help with a basketball game Lola!" Been there! Done that!" "So you want me to help you win a high stakes basketball game? One that could very well decide both our fates? Hmmmmm where have I seen that before?"

This film is like that one kid in class who already proved he was right, and is still trying to prove he was right.

If you think this film is great and you enjoy it just as much as the original that's perfectly fine, I'm not gonna try to overshadow your opinions, I just want to share mine.

In the end, I'm gonna rate this film a solid 4/10 (and most of that 4 is the comedy and the animation and the Tunes themselves.) Can you watch this just for the Tunes? Absolutely. Can you like this film more than me? Also absolutely. Do I think this film would've been worth it if I'd have seen it in theaters? No not at all I'm glad I waited for HBO Max.

[surflove808]

I'm in complete agreement here. And I've got thoughts.  Shocker.

A: It's very difficult for me to imagine a 10 yr old boy having this dialogue with anyone... ever.

B: If this conversation was an invention by the OP to have a laugh, get attention for their ship or get notes by using their children to prop up their own headcanon... I have to ask, when is it ever "cool" or "funny" to use a 10 yr old to faux-legitimize a ship? Even if you're just fishing for attention for your Destiel Thang, this seems a bit, you know...much.

C: If this conversation has legitimately happened (heck...even if it hasn't), the whole "start them young" tag is soooo very creepy. Surely you have sexually mature friends your own age you can push the Good Ship Lollipop on? I would hope so.

Let's try a new slogan, shall we? Something like "#Start them when they're physically and emotionally mature enough to process fact vs fiction and adult sexuality as represented by artists/creators vs. interpretations by a subsection of the general public. Or just not at all."

That's way too long, I know. 

Hmmm... how about "#If you have to indoctrinate children and use your status as a parental figure in order to 'build an army' for your ship... Maybe it wasn't meant to be."

You know what? I'm fucking horrible at catchy tags. But contrary to what some of you might be thinking, I actually am very fun at parties!

Bottom line OP, I'm sure you're a great parent. I'm sure you were just being funny.  LOL, amirite??  But really, this might/could be a good wake up call for ALL shippers that take it too far. Who have lost the line between fact and fiction. Canon and headcanon. Decorum and infamy. This goes for you asshole Tinhatters who run anti blogs picking apart every aspect of these actors lives/wives/children/etc too. I see your bullshit and it's even uglier, albeit more covert.  

OP, I know you didn’t mean any harm, and I think we all know that.  It’s just.... maybe think a bit more about what you’re putting out there into the world.  “Raising the next generation of Destiel shippers”?  WHY.  IS.  THIS.  IMPORTANT.  ENOUGH.  TO.  DRAG.  YOUR.  KIDS.  INTO?  Or encourage anyone else to do the same, for that matter...

Ship away. I personally support the freedom to do that.  You can ship Dean Winchester with a doorknob if that's your kink.  But I'm damn tired of being force fed with the constant snickering innuendos posing as "fact", the threats, the infighting, the outright misinformation campaigns aimed at skewing perspectives of new viewers towards one ship or another as opposed to encouraging people to just enjoy the damn show for what it is and letting them interpret it however they want without pushing (you name it) agenda 24/7.  

The bombardment route is a tricky campaign to wage, people.  And it's a disingenuous and underhanded one at that.  "It's not a Tulpa"  (Dean doing his best Schwartzenegger impersonation).  I do think it's possible to manifest your thoughts and intentions into reality to some degree, but are we really wasting that energy on trying to butt into someone else's creative endeavor and life's work in order to be "right" about a theory?  Is it THAT fucking important that you get picked first at kickball??  

What if we stayed in our lanes a bit more?  Stopped being destructive.  I mean... is that possible? Can we do that?  Since when did this become a competitive sport? I know, I know...I tagged all sorts of things, but I’m just following your lead, people.  Sue me.  Show me a better way.  Lead by example.

I love this show and this whole crew as much as the next person. I'm invested...but even I've gotta say, ChuckDamn...

Get a grip.

This heller's conversation with her child is weirding me out.

A doll-face sent me this oddity she found in the main tags.  

@destielstuffandthings is the quintessential heller.  She is a notorious mistagger.  Her meta is ridiculous.  And she lies.  Look at this whole post.  This entire conversation is made up. [[I am sincerely hoping its made up.]] 

This felt very awkward to read. 

Which child gives a hoot about shipping?  They are still little and don’t care about love and romance.  The whole conversation was teetering on fake for me, until the daughter’s line gave up the game.  I doubt this clown even has children.  At least, I sincerely hope that she doesn’t. 

@destielstuffandthings:  Kindly keep your stupidity off the main tags.  The fan who notified me about this, said that your nonsense is all over the tags and it is annoying, so stop.  She and I both felt weird about this post.  And if you are a parent, then I worry for your children.  You sound weird.  Starting them young?  Are you mad?  And if, at the off chance, your child did say something like this, then the only logical reason as to why he did, would be that you are feeding this vulgarity to him.  You are inadvertently indoctrinating him.  Stop!  This is bordering on abuse.  Children don’t need to know things like sex and romance, before they mature.  Horrible mother!!!!  What is wrong with people???

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