#if we get to gatekeep fanfic stuff I have some tropes that i don't like reading

[mayhem24-7forever]

First off you need to deflate that giant ego inflated head of yours.

Second I am not "harassing" anyone I am calling out a serious problem in the fandom which is that a huge number of writers are ignoring the main canon couple of the show who are also gay men in order to ship themselves with those characters. It's homophobic and unacceptable and I will continue to call out everyone who does this.

If someone doesn't want to ship Vigilmaker then okay that's a little sus but not inherently homophobic...erasing Chris and Adrian's romantic relationship and their sexualities (they're literally both gay!!!! what is WRONG with you freaks???) so that horny straight bitches can ship themselves with them is straight inarguably homophobic. It's also pathetic and cringe. Reader inserts are fucking cringe! This is literally why we need to bring back bullying.

It's not about blocking or filtering tags! It's about the fact that these fics shouldn't exist in the first place! It's fucking shameful that there are so many of them and they outnumber fics about the main couple of the show! Filtering tags doesn't get rid of them problem which is that they exist and there's a lot of them.

This fandom is not for horny straight bitches! Get out! Get out of our tags get out of fandom GO AWAY!!!!! This show isn't fucking for you!!!!

To your first point: You telling me I have a big ego when you refuse to even try and argue against anyone's points is peak comedy. So if I am the kettle, you are the pot.

Secondly, as has been pointed out to you by several people you've decided to bug about this, Vigilmaker isn't canon or the "main couple" of the show and both characters have been canonically shown to be attracted to the opposite sex (which doesn't rule out that they can be bisexual or pansexual btw). So I'm a little confused as to how you think anyone is setting canon sexualities aside for anything. But in case you don't believe me here's some proof from James Gunn himself: (https://www.cbr.com/peacemaker-vigilante-shipping-james-gunn-confused/). Also here's some proof that Chris is CANONICALLY bisexual, not strictly homosexual (https://www.out.com/television/2022/2/16/how-peacemaker-became-bisexual-in-hbo-max-show-john-cena-james-gunn-dc-comics-dceu). So technically speaking, you're going against canon.

Also, I'm wondering if your feelings on this applies to other changes to canon made by fan fic authors? Do you only read things tagged with "canon compliant" and believe that making them in any sort of AU is reprehensible to canon? Because apparently it is "homophobic" for me to not ship two characters who are canonically straight or at most bisexual/pansexual but if I were to write a fic where everyone was a pirate instead of their canon jobs, that's something you're gonna allow. Just curious how we're drawing the lines of what is and isn't acceptable for fanfiction.

The thing that annoys me the most about this isn't just that you refuse to even try and defend your argument with anything except repeating the same points that have already been refuted and proved incorrect and childish insults about being "cringe" etc. What really gets me is that you are straight up assuming everyone who writes these fics must be horny straight cis women because apparently in your eyes you are either gay or straight and there's no inbetween. Newsflash: Bisexuals, Pansexuals, and other Queer identities exist.

To your complaints about self insert/reader fics being cringe or disgusting, that's your opinion. It's something you're not into in fanfiction and that's alright, we all have our preferences. Personally, I don't like to read fics with unhappy endings but you don't see me going in the ask boxes of angst writers to complain. You're apparent beef with self insert writers isn't some moral mission to stop homophobia, because there's no homophobia going on (except from your biphobic ass). I'm not going to do you the disservice of assuming your gender or sexuality as you have done for me and my friends but no matter your gender or sexuality, you don't get to be the ruler of all fanfic who determines what is and is okay.

Yeah, it would be a valid problem/concern if James Gunn were to come out and say that Chris and Adrian are now 100% homosexual and in love and that their past references to having heterosexual sex no longer apply as they've changed and are now super duper gay and people were to make them straight for fics. But that's not what's happening so I don't know where you got this stick up your ass from. Stop policing or gatekeeping fandom, no one died and made you head ceo of the Peacemaker/DC fandom so stop acting like it.

TLDR; L + you don't know how to argue + you're biphobic + you're an asshole + you're straight up wrong <3

[dystopiandilfs]

What's your opinion on the whole feminine George and Acelerate being a fetish thing. I tend to like hearing your opinions because you don't try to sugarcoat things to please people.

My issue is why are people suddenly upset. Everyone seemed fine with Heatwaves, maid dress George fanart etc before why has everyone suddenly become an anti. Regarding Accelerate being a mlm nblm fetish, the authors are mlm nblm and I don't think you can fetishize yourself, also George's fictional characters whole gimmick is to be a fishnet wearing, red lipstick, seductive flag girl. That's the whole point so "making George feminine is like making it a straight relationship" is the dumbest fucking thing.

"Making George the bottom is making him the female in the relationship" Okay so you're saying that women can't be tops? What about lesbian couples are they both bottoms? Shit like this infuriates me like your argument is so fucking stupid like you just sound fucking stupid. However I will add that calling George a bottom is acceptable however calling him a twink is weird. I think if people were saying that instead of bottom then it's fine to correct them but getting mad at bottom is just weird to me (as a pillow princess)

Why are people suddenly gatekeeping fanfiction...... The whole thing about straight girls can't enjoy LGBTQ+ relationships without it being seen as a fetish is stupid. It's like saying only straight people can watch straight people porn. Why are you gatekeeping couples from people. "You're a straight person so that automatically means that if you like a same sex couple then it's a fetish and it's weird and gross"

Don't even get me started on the whole "George wearing dresses and skirts makes him feminine thing" The people who say that drawing George in a dress are the same people who say that clothing has no gender. Why does George in a dress suddenly make it a man wearing a female wardrobe why now do clothes suddenly have a gender huh?

The same people who say that people are femininizing George by having him as "the female counterpart" for the fanfic tropes are the people saying that George shaving his legs is a girly thing, maybe the guy just doesn't like body hair, maybe he doesn't have leg hair in general, maybe he's cosplaying a naked molerat or sphinx cat.

Regarding George's boundaries, First off he's awful at having them so any that have been said I take with a grain of salt unless I'm shown proof of George saying/tweeting it. So I've seen some people say that George has one boundary of not being edited or drawn with a maid dress or cat ears. (If you have proof of George saying this please feel free to send it me and correct me on this bit) however the only reason I sort am a bit ???? about it is because of Dream liking multiple fanarts of cheerleader Dream Team and both Dream and George liking a fanart of them both in strawberry dresses and I feel like if he didn't like maid dresses he wouldn't like the strawberry dress or cheerleader outfits either also I feel like if it was one of his boundaries Dream wouldn't like it either.

In my opinion unless George states otherwise nobody should be getting mad at people for drawing George in "girl clothes". Also if you are someone who's either getting mad at a piece of fiction or is gatekeeping it you need to seriously take a fucking walk outside because that's so dumb. Sure some people are going to fetishize LGBTQ+ relationships but that doesn't make it right to attack them for enjoying something. What happened to finally letting girls do/enjoy normal things without being attacked.

Also a lot of people who are invested in LGBTQ+ relationships are people who are unsure about their sexuality and fanfiction is a way to help them either feel more secure or to give them the "experience" and "knowledge" that they wouldn't get normally. It's the same as people speculating about others sexuality, it can be incredibly damaging as a closeted LGBTQ+ person to be told stuff like that.

YOU CAN FINISH READING HERE THIS NEXT BIT IS JUST A BIT EXTRA THAT I WANTED TO ADD BECAUSE I'M NOW VENTING ABOUT LGBTQ+ RELATIONSHIPS AND SEXUALITY.

In my own experience me and my ex both figured out that we weren't straight after getting drunk, watching various versions of porn and realising that neither of us were enjoying the straight one and he wasn't interested in the wlw at all (turns out he was gay as hell and I was a lesbian {now bisexual})

A good example to watch is Inabbers video about Dream and queerbaiting because he brings up a really good point about how accusing close friends who flirt as queerbaiters might seem like a funny joke but if one was secretly closeted jokes like that can heavily prevent a coming out out of fear of it being seen as a joke/cover/meme etc. He said himself that he was going to come out earlier but he has fears of it because of jokes like that.

[mrjosephsteacherblog]

Ten Reasons Why English Teachers Should Care About Fanfiction

English teachers. We know 'em, we love 'em, and sometimes we want to scream at 'em. Little do these teachers of ours know, however, that fanfic is something they ignore at their IMMINENT peril. Here's why:

Fanfiction is how writers learn how to be critical readers

School offers us books. Sometimes we are assigned a text, sometimes we are given a list to choose from, and other times we are asked to come up with something "independently"--but always, the teacher has to approve it! Doesn't this contradict how we are supposed to "explore literature" as growing readers? Where better to hone our skills as "critical readers" by participating in a discourse of, for, and by our fellow teen writers--fanfiction?! It's by deconstructing these boring old "canonical" texts through fanfiction that we learn how to take broken stuff apart and put it back together so that it works again, for our generation!!!

2. Fanfiction is actually relevant to teens

You know what the worst feeling in the world is? Being told you have to read some long-ass "classic" novel, write a paper on it, give a speech about it, etc.--all the while, you're never allowed to criticize the teacher's choice of text or the author themselves because that's not what "real critics" do! I call bullshit! Why should the teacher's literary taste be above criticism? Why can't we highlight how irrelevant it is to read books that were written by people who DIED before we were born! It's unbelievable. Fanfic, however, is about real issues like love and death and character drama, where teen authors hold all the power! So much better than stuffy old texts about "mockingbirds" or "gatsbys" or whatever.

3. Fanfiction helps train writers

No one wants to read essays from fellow students that they didn't care about. So if we have to read these stories, why not let us write fanfic about them? Why not put us in the "mind of an author" and let our imaginations run wild? It's better for us "growing writers" if we actually care about what we're writing. Plus, it's more interesting to read fic written by our classmates.

4. Every great writer started as a fanfic author

How do you think Cassandra Clare got her start? What about Becky Chambers? And E.L. James??? If we are going to actually use our writing in the future (i.e., MAKE MONEY $$$$$), we need to write what the people want to read. Fanfic helps us do that by sharing our works in a large community immediately, leading to future careers as bestselling writers if we want! (After all, isn't most fantasy fiction nowadays just Tolkien fanfiction????)

5. Fanfiction is more inclusive than the canon

All these books we read in class, written so long ago, are boring AF because they don't show reality: they are White, they are Straight, they are Upper-Middle Class. I want to read about a gay Gatsby! I want to read about romance amongst the poor, not upper-middle class Austen men! I want to read about a gender-bent Mice and Men! I want to read a racially diverse Moby-Dick! (Okay, well, maybe I don't want to read that last one AT ALL, but racially diverse would be better than the way it is now!) All these books are products of their time. And those times were bad! Conservative! Lacking freedom! They need to be updated, and fanfic is the way to do that.

6. Fanfic has a real community beyond the classroom

When do teens talk about the books they read in class? IN CLASS! (Maybe with their parents, too.) But who sits around the lunch table and chats with their friends about the vagaries of rhetorical appeals present in "Oedipus"? NO ONE! (Btw, Oedipus is great fodder for fanfic. It's like, the origin of all the good tropes.) Fanfic encourages teens to actually use their English / Language Arts skills outside of class.

7. Fanfic has no gatekeepers

Teachers wanna be gatekeepers, publishers wanna be gatekeepers, even our parents want to be gatekeepers with the type of content we read! We're going to be adults in just a few years. Shouldn't we get some chance to exercise our freedom by choosing what and how we write about books and stories? Fanfic lets anyone write about anything! So cool.

8. Fanfic is the future

Where do you think all those writers get their good ideas? Where do you think all those social media communities get their trope names? Fanfic! How else are we supposed to develop a discourse around that which we love? Because the barriers to entry are non-existent and the consequences of "failure" so low as to be meaningless for fanfic writers, they can experiment so much more than all these "official" authors! AO3 and fanfiction.net are the hotbeds of literary invention in the 21st century!!!

9. Fanfic lets students create art in other ways

Some of us are gifted visual artists. Some of us are singers. Others of us have excellent fashion taste! But many of us aren't any of those things. By bringing fanfic into the classroom, teachers allow students to express themselves in more ways, letting those who are skilled with words have a chance to let their talents shine! This allows for inclusivity not just at the content level, but in the form level by letting us have multiple means of representation. It's more accessible!

10. Fanfiction is literature

Fanfiction involves all of the necessary skills English teachers are trying to drill into us students: speaking (to our friends about our cool stories), listening (hearing others talk about cool ideas either in person or online through Youtube and the like), writing (fanfic itself), reading (other people's fic), critical thinking (making choices about what to change and what to leave the same when creating our own), and research! (Canonicity, TVTropes, etc.) It just does all this in a teen-friendly format! Rather than forcing us to be "miniature adults" and inculcating us with the works of Dostoyevsky or whomever, shouldn't we be allowed to be who we are--teenagers?? Fanfic allows us to grow our skills in an age appropriate fashion!

In conclusion, we need to have a "fanfic" option for every book we read in school! Instead of an analytical essay in every unit, let's give the option of being "creative"!!! English teachers have lost sight of the fact that they teach not just a vocational skill, but an art. Let's emphasize that and encourage future generations to create!