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remembrances of earth's past initial concluding thoughts （xxxx)

very rough thoughts before I read/watch a bunch of other people's reactions/analyses, not anything analytical about plot/style/character/etc, just strings i found intriguing

very obviously this is a first contact story where humanity never meets its original pursuers. there is such a deep yearning and loss (for each other!) that pulls across the centuries of the narrative, even after both homeworlds are destroyed. the dance between earth and trisolaris is just so confoundingly complex--fear, admiration, concern, intimacy, distrust, mutually parental. the first thing that comes to mind is the chinese phrase 惺惺相惜 (星星!), to be concerned for, appreciate, and sympathize with another of equal caliber. from the first moment of contact-Ye Wenjie bruised enough from humanity's brutality towards her that she wants divine intervention-Trisolaris greeted Earth with a warning for them to quiet down in a universe on edge for the faintest snap of a branch. That just makes me so emotional man, even if Trisolaris as a whole decided to, as all civilization would, attack and take over the solar system.

Earthers getting to know/introducing people to Trisolaris through a video game. through a game where the aliens look like their historical heroes and figures. goddamn. Earth sending a brain to the enemy on a pipe dream that the brain will someday bring them intel, even knowing that the most likely thing to happen to the brain is that it will be studied and tortured and make their enemy understand them more deeply. trisolaris decoding the brain and its owner's biology and building him a body and a habitat below the engine of their generation ship. letting him have a chance at speaking with a woman and possibly releasing intel back to earth (which did happen! and they didn't even punish him when Cheng Xin arrived at the DX world with curvature propulsion technology). the soil and the logo-less life necessities trisolarans built for the potential human dwellers in the miniverse 647. Sophon existing as a sophon, as a robot, as a genocidal commander, as a... friend? for the last humans in the universe? my god.

are the characters realistic? no not really, but it doesn't really hinder the reading when it's so obvious they're just dust in the story of time and embody archetypes and a responsibility to history rather than to themselves. the best and worst of humanity portrayed in all 3 books were all about what I expected, it's just that the relationship between earth and trisolaris is just so so so so ...? trisolaris being a completely transparent race in book 1 who aren't even capable of lying, to trisolaris who even under the threat of a dark forest strike lies to Earth with the false technologies and research they send? That is a monster humans built with their own hands. some guy in the ETO said their lord was a naive child against the mind of a human. humans singlehandedly created a monstrous trisolaris who lies about the droplets left surveilling the earth, who lies and takes out the entire earth's space fleet in 10 minutes as soon as the swordholder changed hands. But earth also gave them art and music and stories, and if Yun Tianming meant it literally he also invented childhood for them? That is so so so so !

all the moments that I would read a whole epilogue/side story on:

Yun Tianming's fairytales, also his entire story after becoming just a brain. i'm doubtful if its really even him as we know it after revival--he was so so pessimistic about humanity and realized he meant nothing to Cheng Xin, his sunniness when they met again just doesn't check out. I just can't see how it's him. It makes more sense even for that body to be controlled by Trisolaris, who somehow has decided to communicate with humans through their likeness? The way they turned Sophon into a human robot?

What happened between Luo Ji and his wife/kid

Wang Miao who just disappeared after book one? wish Da Shi didn't abruptly drop after deterrence era too

more about what Blue Space and Gravity went through

AA and Yun Tianming in planet blue, waiting their whole lives together. all the things they would have told each other!!

a depiction of a 2 dimensional civilization would have been nuts

also, ending a story about a dark forest universe where its civs only care about their own survival, coming together (presumably) to abandon their private universe strongholds so the great universe could hold on and not expand infinitely into a dead world? ending a story where you risk death if you spoke a single word into the void of the dark, with an immense energy expenditure message to all the small universes, in millions of languages? god.

maybe there will be more organized reflection maybe this is just it! regardless, i'm thinking about this story forever !!!