#if u guys wanna ship incest. i mean thats weird but at some point u gotta own up to it instead of being like “actually guys father and son-
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zvezdacito · 1 year ago
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Even if you dont see them as father and son they are still legal guardian and ward since Lilia literally raised him since infancy they cannot really "switch" into a romantic/"basically married" relationship just because Malleus helped him with Silver😭
That's more akin to an older sibling with a huge age gap helping the parent raise younger sibling dynamic, or an uncle helping his older brother raise a niece/nephew. Or just platonic co-parenting in general. Co-parenting does not inherently make you "basically married"😭
There is no implication whatsoever that he treated Malleus like an adult either the one clear retelling of his childhood Malleus tells Yuu is literally Lilia being nurturing after Kid Malleus makes a mistake, if he was being treated like an adult they wouldn't have been so lenient and gentle in telling him off
Like regardless if Lilia was only being held to babysitting Malleus by Mallenoire and Levan and not something he initiated... it means he still did help raise and babysit him???
We don't know the details of how much he softened around Malleus after their deaths vs how much he softened around Silver but I swear this argument reads like "Tsundere character says they hate love interest. They definitely hate love interest it's definitely not the story hinting they mean something else to what they say/they grow to genuinely care about someone they initially dislike"
The levels of reaching twst fans go through to justify finding "romantic implications" in explicitly familial relationships is so weird im sorry. His desperation for Lilia to not leave in Book 7 isn't romantic either have you never been scared at the idea of your parents leaving you lmao
Like this not even an "interpretation" this is pulling stuff out your ass because you don't like the canon status of a relationship😭 Which is fine for like romantic ships you hate becoming platonic in fanon but why do you want this guy and the person who raised him to be "basically married" so bad...🤨
Malleus and Lilias relationship is so much more complicated than father son and honestly i don’t think they are father son or anything close to that
Lilia was probably still mean old war gen Lilia when Malleus hatched, I doubt he was doing any proper nuturing to Malleus as he dislikes kids. Knowing Lilia he saw it as repaying a favour to Mallenoire and Revaan. I personally interpret Malleus’s upbringing as Lilia treating him like an adult and therefore he and Lilia have more of an underclassman upperclassman relationship.
But I think it gets more complicated than that. Specifically when Silver came into the picture, being that Lilia seems to still be Malleus’s primary princesitter Mal would’ve been around. I’m gonna say that Lilia wasn’t his war general self but definitely wasn’t our current Lilia when he took Silver in. I do believe he was craddlenapped from a human royal family, specifically the one that was faught in the human-fae war. But that’s not this posts topic. Being that Malleus is around I think he’d get roped into babysitting Silver and that babysitting would soon turn into straight up parenting which ends up changing Malleus and Lilias relationship to more of that of a married couple.
In the point of the story where Yuu is iseksied I’d say they’re still in that “married non romantically bc we have a kid together lol” dynamic
I really wanna give thoughts on mals overblot snd how it affects my interpretation of their dynamic but I dont know enough of it :(. Will update this when I read it!
I love Malleus and Lilia and they’re so weird n complicated and please leave your thoughts below id love to hear other interpretations
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irkenheretic · 3 years ago
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ok im acting a fool now this has nothing to do with your au at all (i know, big fail and not what u asked) But when u make writings of any kind, given the state of the fandom, do u ever feel like it’s WORTH posting (u can read that however u wanna)
or does it take a lot of convincing internally to get u to do so
(this ended up delving into some pretty dark topics like incest, rape, and ableism so uh just a forewarning so yall arent . blindsided by that)
i ask for Fun AU Content and i get Pain . Suffering, even. youre unvited to my birthday party 😭
but in all seriousness.... i don't.
its like... i put a lot into my fics. even the oneshots already posted, i put a lot into it. and most people dont really.... care much
a lot of people like to claim that this fandom has no hierarchy of "more popular" and "less popular" but the funny thing is, people that say that the most are the popular people. there is a very clear social ladder here where there are people at the top that can do basically whatever and get fawned over, and then theres Everyone Else and they dont get that kind of acclaim.
which, thats not a Bad Thing to observe. this is common in literally every fandom and pretending like we're somehow "above" that is seriously disingenuous- we're not. popular users like i said can do basically whatever and people still love them. its disheartening when "basically whatever" means "put out work i personally dont think is very good." its downright insulting when "basically whatever" means "get away with being a flat-out cunt 'cause people are too scared of you to call you on it."
so its like... is this what im making content for? assholes, and the people that excuse them? why would i want them to read my stuff? for all i know, one day i'm gonna wake up and have my callout strewn about because, and im gonna be honest with yall here: anarchisma has some seriously fucked up plot points. its a dark au. and some of the plot points arent dark, theyre just odd. there's an incestuous couple and its never really made into a Thing theyre just There. its not a Statement on how Incest Is Bad, theyre literally just vibing and thats their Thing and its not seen as a Bad Character Trait to be Fixed And Amended. their main problem is codependency and shoving themselves into the box of "the weird people" at the detriment of their real personalities. at the end of their (background) arc, they resolve both their issues... but they're still in a relationship with each other. most people in this fandom, even the ones that claim they're Not Antis cause they Like The Bad Ship, would at best think this is fucking weird and at worst try to doxx me over it. on the other side of the coin, there's a character that attends a trial for their own childhood rape. and since the trial includes memory playbacks, the worst thing in this guy's life (so far) is being played on The Big Screen. its... im planning for it to be described in-detail, because its supposed to make you uncomfortable. the victim is the pov character in this instance and the inclusion of the detail is supposed to make you, the reader, feel the same bone-deep revulsion and discomfort that they felt watching their own trauma unfold in front of basically their society's equivalent to God. but yk, its commonly accepted that Rape Scene Bad (and yeah there's a good argument for that, gratuitous scenes like that just for the sake of torture porn arent.... good..... but im not gonna get into that here cause thats a more nuanced topic than i feel comfortable tackling on my Invader Zim Tumblr Blog) but the point is like, will the mere inclusion of that scene lead to people hating me? nobody in this fucking fandom has any Reading Comprehension to maybe think about wether the scene is just gratuitous for thee sake of gratuity or if its like.... actually. serving a purpose. hell, am i gonna get angry people in my inbox now, over a scene that isn't even confirmed to be included?
some characters have confirmed mental illnesses; am i gonna get people in the comments explaining to me how An Autistic Character Would Never Do Something Like That or try and excuse the pretty fucking reprehensible actions of certain people because of their autism? would they come after me for making an autistic character immoral? (fun facts: lefy's autistic! hes also one of the most immoral characters in the whole protagonist lineup.... but also, you get why he did what he did. jerkass woobie, remember.) and on the other side, some characters have confirmed ASPD! am i gonna get idiots in my comment section explaining to me that She Can't Be A Sociopath Because She Loves Her Family And Has A Boyfriend? (note for everyone else: i have ASPD.) if i have to have my own disorder condescendingly explained to me in my comments i am GOING to lose my mind
i know this makes it sound like i have a pretty low opinion of this fandom... and i do! kind of? i know there are a lot of smart, talented people here. i admire the work of so many creators and i love seeing certain people in my notes (if you regularly like my original posts, i know your url by heart and i love you)
but no matter how good the good side is, theres always gonna be a bad side. for every fan of my au there's gonna be some dipshit that saw "rapr," didn't read the rest of the tags, gets shocked that the first story is about miscarriage, and tries to take it out on me for writing it in the first place, rather than realizing it was their dumb ass that didn't read the fucking tags.
i have some OC-centric oneshots. they're going to be a part of anarchisma as chapters in a defect-centered anthology. the anthology serves to introduce certain characters or concepts that were too clunky to introduce anywhere else in the text. i have "the worst job in the empire," which i've showed to a lot of people, and they all liked it. i have the "little green candies" fic, which im pretty sure im infamous for among my friends cause its freaked out everyone i showed it to. i have two other fics i think are really good
sometimes i think about posting them.
and then i remember nobody really cares about ocs unless theres art attached. a lot of art, and only if its past a certain threshold of "quality." if i post that stuff to the wider public and nobody cares i'm gonna be really upset, honestly. itd kill my motivation, and id rather live in a fantasy where my au is popular, than post au content and realize that it probably never will be.
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