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uh anyways i'll leave the toxic tenrose tag when yall leave the martha jones or tenmartha or the bear, the sleep hollow, the flash the selfie (because ive seen that shit there too) tags alone, how about that?
just a reminder: the tardis didnt take ten and martha to joan crawford, seventh doctor did by default for the chameleon circuit on a whim. because even joan said it! THE RACIST WOMAN CALLED HIM OUT ON THAT TO HIS FACE!
its the only two parter where its literally in your face that it was the DOCTOR that put MARTHA in that situation, not the tardis.
because just like falling in love never occurred to him, so was this entire scenario.
he fell in love with the same racist twice out of fobwatch familiarity and the only reason she didnt notice was because seven landed in april 1914 and ten in november 1913 - a whole year earlier
after all time and time and time again, the doctor lands somewhere with the pre-set location to avoid his past and future selves
but its even established by HIM that he is taking martha to places that he has already went to with people before her. not the tardis: himself.
so dont dance around about s3 ten's actions just because you happen to think of how he treated martha is blown out of proportion when it isn't. At all. BY HIS OWN ADMISSION mind you. "I traveled with Martha, I ruined her life" WHATS NOT CLICKING????
he couldve set it to modern-day by evidence of where he took martha because that shakespeare ep? His rolling of the eyes? HES ALREADY WENT THERE WITH ROSE AS NINE BUT SHAKESPEARE WAS OLDER and was contantly attempting to physically assault rose Meanwhile Shakespeare younger not doing that? Keeping his hands to himself? Flirting with both of them?! Yeah, no that 'dr didnt take them there, the tardis did' ALWAYS FALL FLAT WITH S3 BECAUSE TEN LITERALLY ADMITS HES TAKING HER TO PREVIOUS LOCATIONS MULTIPLE TIMES. the tardis only did that with lazerus, 42, blink, the utopia three parter (utopia, sound of drums, last of the time lords) and THATS IT but even in the first ep of season 3, ten showed he can pilot it with ease like a snap of his fingers. He can go exactly where he want to go. She didnt give him a time, she said this morning and he guessed. The whole point of season 3 is to show why tenrose doesnt work if the direct separation of you and her is being just as an excuse to be a dick AND RUNAWAYBRIDE?? BEING THE FIRST ONE BEFORE SEASON 3? he was mourning rose but it was CHOICE TO FLIRT TO ACTIVELY SHOW ATTRACTION TO ACTIVELY BE A DICK by his own admission. despite still showing attraction to martha the whole run. the entire run. the reason he yelled the reason he put that arms length was never because of rose. twice. THRICE SINCE 12 PUNCHED THAT GUY BECAUSE HE KNEW BILL'S CONCERNS WAS THE SAME AS MARTHAS BUT HE TOOK BETTER CARE OF IT THAN TEN.
THATS WHY NONE OF THE LATER INCARNATIONS OF 12 AND 13 LIKE 10 AT ALL. 13 constantly avoiding saying roses name by new writers - yeah no shit. Its tens fault why we dont actually have a 13rose. Hell, 11 made fun of him to his face and we chalked it up as them being lads.
its because ten is a hoe. why else do you think he was fine with just giving rose a human him? thats essentially a sentient body pillow of a hand that can give you kids. if you like. because that man was always for the streets unless rose locked that human him down quickly QUICKLY.
my god yall really out here fighting for dust of a ship. tenrose is dust. ninerose gave us FOOD. FOOD AND WATER.
ten took away yall one arguement with rose: oh shes poor thats he loves her. NO SHES NOT. SHES RICH. SHE BECAME A DAUGHTER OF A MULTIBILLIONAIRE AT THE END. SHE IS THE RICH.
SHE WOULDVE JOINED ON THAT STUPID SUBMARINE BECAUSE SHE HEARD THE TARDIS WAS RUMORED YO BE DOWN THERE AND THEN DIED WHAT IS NOT COMPUTING WITH YALL WITH THE TENROSE SHIP
did we all not watch turn left after realizing rose is rich? that she got the torchwood job on petes world because her new daddy owned it? like jackie works there? what is she doing? what is her job there quickly quickly i need to see makkari levels of speed here for the those receipts besides 'oh theyre the owners wife daughter and the guy that looks like the other guy that spedrun the invasion by his presence alone so give them what they want to shut them up' go GO
even the tech. mirror tech. thats just oceangate predetermined cmon. rose is rich now. because i know they made more dimension cannons because jackie AND MICKEY had one too but rose CHOSE TO LET A NOW POORER THAT S1 ROSE DONNA TO GET HIT BY A TRUCK and she let sarah jane amd ianto die???? girl gtfo AND THEN TEN PROCEED TO GIVE HER CRUMBS LIKE HE ALWAYS DID WHEN SHE CAME BACK.
sick. sick thats what tenth dr is. sick. and now 14s gonna be like: 😤 i miss yaz *mopes about yaz* and yall are gonna be like: no he should only mope about rose im not racist but he should only mope for rose even those thats still racism but its not bec—
giving the exact energy as billie piper's second ex-husband. gtfo
and by the way gifmakers that also act like this in every interracial ship that directly counters your umpteenth yt hetero ship that ive seen in literally every era since silent pictures: the correlation of those that ship it just as toxic as you to the point of sending you anon hate if you gif anything outside of that and the ones who are bluntly stealing your gifs and reposting as their own on the likes of twitter with no credit IS THE SAME MOTHERFUCKERS YOU ARE TRYING TO GET REBLOGS FROM. THE SAME ONES. THE SAME ONES THAT WILL NOT ASK IF THEY CAN USE SAID GIFS AND VIDEO (if you are a video editor). THE SAME ONES THAT ARE TWO FACED. do you know how many i had to stop reblogging from because the one who stole it ruined it because it was very clearly that they became racist like that was the natural next step? and weirdly - very weirdly for half of said gifmakers - are swifties. its fucking weird that they are also swifties and racist (hey like 🤬the triple k🤬) and certain type of gifmakers and steal from other creators without permission.
anyway. what was i saying? oh, yeah.
sit the fuck down. shut up. and actively try actually try to make an season 3 ten arguement without sounding like you are racist (just like yall always are with interracial relationships where part of the ship is a yt fave x poc) and failing bad at not being so.
yall been like this since 2010. it has not changed. "i can do better, i can redeem myself by learning to be better" you did worse. the goal was to not do worse. you did the complete opposite and did worse as soon as the metal walls creaked inward. and just like the boy who didnt want to be there and getting killed anyway, so is half of those that defend you completely within the dark that you put them in. just like your ship feed you dust and crumbs, so too you do onto those that stand beside you.
christopher eccleston is right, as always, - it should only be ninerose.
*me continuing to beat up tenth doctor with a cricket bat while an anon is going to think this whole post is about rose just absolve tenth doctor of the blame he is rightfully owed in season 3*
#bw: out of ethos#tv: doctor who#{meh i saw a 'tumblr recommends because you follow this tag' post and ran with it.}#{ive also forgotten who made it but meh}
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v. between the devil and the deep blue sea | connor
[ v. the hierophant. ] ( our nights have grown so long, now we beg for sound advice; let the brokenness be felt ‘til you reach the other side. )
i. he is changing. from the start, you had never imagined working with a deviant-chasing android, much less consider him a friend. it was strange at first-- the way he sat so politely, his awkward attempts at small talk, his intent stare when he asked questions you weren’t quite sure how to answer. late nights in the station were common; you never minded them much, but ever since connor’s arrival, they’ve become surprisingly pleasant. in the times that you were able to relax, he would be there, sitting idly across from you if hank was unavailable at the time. he’d only ask questions related to deviants, but as time passed, he became more curious-- more intrigued by humanity. and in return, you began to think more and more about the nature of androids. if they had as much personality as connor did, if they expressed their emotions in the same way. if they were as human as he was. connor had his own quirks-- the coin tricks, his manner of speaking-- it was difficult to take in at first. you’d encountered androids before, but never did you spend much time with them. “hey,” you begin, almost smiling at the way his posture straightens when you speak, “you have lungs, don’t you? but you don’t need to breathe. is that right?” “correct. androids have human-like functions to minimize discomfort.” it’s weird, you think. you watch his chest move in a rhythmic manner, and you wonder how odd it’d be if it stilled. because it wouldn’t do anything to him, wouldn’t mean a thing if he just stopped breathing. but something about that brings unease to your heart. his head tilts ever so slightly when he notes the hint of concern that adorns your features. “are the functions not enough? i don’t mean to make you uncomfortable.” he assumed that you were fine in his presence; starting from your first meeting, you were well adjusted to the idea of working alongside an android more so than your co-workers. perhaps he hadn’t been doing enough. it’s a few diagnostic runs here and there, some quick scans, and he searches for any remaining adaptations that could be of assistance. but you laugh, much to his surprise. “you don’t make me uncomfortable, connor. you’re plenty enough as you are.” his brows raise in response. he’s unsure of what to say; uncertainty seeps in because he can’t quite figure out what he did to cause any worry. “you seemed concerned.” he watches your fingers gently tap against the desk, and for a moment, you seem deep in thought. “i don’t like the thought of not seeing you breathe.” you explain sheepishly, watching the curiosity that surfaces in brown eyes. “i know you don’t need to, but--” “i would still function.” a weary smile from you, and an unexplainable feeling that overcomes him. “yeah, i know.” ( it’s a reassurance, yes-- but there’s a coldness in those words, even with the sincerity that lingers in them. he’d still function. but he wouldn’t be alive-- breathing or not. ) ii. his curiosity grows more and more with each passing day. it’s another late night, but you’ve slipped out of the building for a quick coffee run, and somehow, you’ve dragged connor along with you. it wasn’t difficult, really-- hank most definitely needed a break from his partner, and connor, well-- being his unique self, didn’t really understand why you wanted his company. ( you managed to steal him away for a bit, though he really does question what benefit you gain from his presence. ) connor tries to initiate conversation quite often. it’s a little funny how far he’ll go with his topics, but today, you notice that he’s quieter, more reserved. you walk side by side in silence. you sense his discomfort-- something you were never able to do when you first met. “you’re not talking much today, connor.” a hint of hesitation that you barely manage to catch, then warm eyes that meet yours. “may i ask you a question, detective?” “always.” a brief pause-- “are you afraid of dying?” your gait halts. he walks a few steps ahead, stops, and turns to face you. maybe he’s misspoken-- he watches your expression carefully, noting the way your lips part to answer, but shut abruptly. the way your eyes avoid his for only a second before staring back. he isn’t sure what he feels right now-- this strange emotion that buries itself deep in his chest. “yes. i’m afraid.” you can almost see his features soften at the answer. “are you?” a sense of conflict on his visage-- the slightest narrow of his brows, then an answer you never wanted to hear. “i’m a machine. i can’t die.” something snaps when you hear the way he talks-- as if this were so casual, as if you weren’t talking about losing him. it’s a cruel reminder; maybe that’s why it hits you so hard. android or not, he was still your friend-- someone you cared for. and the thought of it-- “you would disappear. you’d stop existing.” “another model would replace me. one that looks and thinks exactly like me.” “but it’s not you, connor.” the sense of urgency in your voice makes him hesitate-- and your intense gaze does nothing to help that. his lips part and his gaze shifts downward for a moment; for the first time, he finds himself at a loss for words. “no, it’s not.” ( if he were to stop existing today, he could possibly forget memories of you and hank. he isn’t scared, he tells himself. --it would simply be a shame if such a thing happened. ) iii. that conversation burns itself in your memory. you worry. and you don’t know why. maybe because you thought he was becoming more human, because he was growing and learning-- but you were too optimistic. in the long run, he was still an android. he thought of himself as such-- nothing more, nothing less. just a machine to serve a purpose. you find yourself watching him more and more these days, seeing the way he both pisses off hank and amuses him, the way he’s become comfortable with his partner. you watch the way he breathes because someway, somehow, it gives you a sense of relief and anxiety. ( it doesn’t mean anything, but god, you’re so afraid that he just might stop one day. ) he catches you staring, but your mind is elsewhere and you don’t notice him staring back. “detective,” he begins, his voice slightly softer than usual, “i’m still breathing.” “i know, connor.” there’s a quiet solemness in your words. he ponders if he should have ever brought the topic up with you; ever since that day, you’ve been distant, almost absent in conversations. he thinks about how to respond-- what he should say, if he should even press on-- “are you alive, though?” silence is his answer. ( it’s better that way. you don’t want to hear what he’d say. ) iv. something happened on that rooftop. when hank and connor return to the station, there’s tension in the air. hank doesn’t say a word to you ( he doesn’t most times, but at the very least, he acknowledges you with a little nod ). connor approaches with an unreadable expression and your breath catches in your throat. “i felt what it was like to die.” the files in hand almost slip when the words are registered; you scramble to grab the paperwork before it scatters about, mind racing with questions. but you don’t ask any; the confusion on your visage is enough. “i connected with a deviant before he was shot and i--” he pauses, almost as if he’s...scared. scared to speak, scared to explain what happened during the investigation. “i was afraid.” the last word rolls off his tongue slowly, hesitantly. “i felt him die.” there’s this intense dread that swallows every single thought you have at that very moment. every word of comfort-- of anything, really, disappears, and you’re left speechless, just as he once was when you spoke to him about his indifference towards death. it’s human nature to be afraid of dying. it’s something most are born with-- not something that suddenly just happens. because life is full of “what ifs”, not just calculated thoughts and pre constructions. you don’t open your eyes one day and realize how frightening death is. you shouldn't. but he did. and he stands before you now, lost and afraid. uncertainty graces his features and you can only stare in concern when he speaks again. “i’m afraid of dying.” his voice shakes. it’s never done that before, you notice, and an overwhelming vulnerability takes over you. you’ve never seen him like this. he hardly loses composure, but now-- he’s a thread that continues to unravel and unravel. back then, he said that he was a machine-- that he couldn’t die. seeing him now, you wonder if it was better if he never knew the feeling. but it’s happening again, you think-- and you know that this time, it’s not just your imagination, nor your hopes. every single time he walks out that door to find another deviant, something changes in him. he may not admit it, but you can see it-- you can feel it. your hand finds his and rests it against his chest. he feels the way it rises and falls, and he wonders if he’s the same. he’s been struggling, ever so slowly-- fighting to follow orders, fighting to do what he believes is right. he’s an android. he knows that. so why? “connor,” the way his name leaves your lips brings him back to reality; he’s suddenly all too aware of your warmth, “you are alive. you are living.” ( he’s not a deviant. he can’t be. he’s not allowed to be. ) v. in your years of working here, you learn that hank has a few moods: grumpy, pissed off, and moderately okay. genuinely contemplative, however, is not one you see much. he’s lost in thought, and with connor off sending reports to cyberlife, you’re the only one he can talk to about the situation. besides, he’s seen the way you two interact; you of all people should understand. “he didn’t shoot her.” ( which one? the lovers? kamski’s android? the very fact that you have to figure out who he refers to says enough about connor’s development. ) “he’s becoming more human, isn’t he?” you glance around warily, keeping your voice low. you know that hank believes that connor’s been making the right decisions, regardless of whether or not they interfere with his mission. and you both know that he’s no longer an android that follows his goal through and through. “you think he could become a deviant?” it’s a serious question, but you recall how many times you’ve heard hank’s sarcastic remarks. when you look at him, searching for any hint of amusement, there is nothing. “what happens if he does?” his expression turns grim. “what happens if he doesn’t?” ( hank wonders if he’s doing the right thing. he almost laughs; he used to loathe androids so much. maybe he was wrong the whole time. ) . . . he knows what he has to do. he’s located jericho. there’s something unsettling about it all. he doesn’t know why, doesn’t completely understand. he has his mission. he has his orders. chloe’s face comes to mind, and for a moment, he freezes. he’s changed into casual attire now, watching the mirror intently as he puts on the beanie. he wonders if there’s something different about him. he remembers holding the gun point-blank and the eeriness that came with it. there were no errors, no possible mistakes in his programming-- nothing logical that would explain the act of mercy. his jaw clenches, brown eyes carefully studying his reflection. he couldn’t do it. he couldn’t kill-- no, neutralize her. she was an android, just like him. neither dead nor alive. simply just a machine. but she was innocent. ( you felt empathy, connor. he did. and that frightens him. ) . . . it’s his last chance. you can’t bear the thought of seeing him return to cyberlife. it’s one thing for him to leave, another to know that they would tear him apart. you’re caught off-guard when you see him again. the beanie, the leather jacket-- “is something wrong, detective?” focus returns and you shake your head, offering the faintest of smiles. it’s a worried one, but it’s almost hopeful, he realizes. it’s not long until it disappears, and you’re both left staring at each other in silence. you’re not sure what to say. this isn’t goodbye-- it’s far from that. but there’s an emptiness-- an ache in your heart when you see him prepared to go to jericho. “take care.” he thinks to respond, but your gaze is much too sharp, much too intense. he memorizes your every feature, observing every movement. you’re trying to tell him something. ( do what you need to do, connor. ) vi. you’re not sure how long it’s been since the revolution began. it’s all been a blur-- and while it’s far from over, the androids have made more progress than you’ve ever imagined. they’ve managed to finally be recognized as their own; they fought for their future through peaceful means and they won. and of course, your favorite android returned. you don’t know the exact details regarding jericho; it’s enough knowing that he did what he thought best. it was surreal, seeing him on the TV screen. there was this overwhelming heaviness bearing down on your chest when he left, but the moment you caught sight of him, you could finally breathe. because you knew that he was safe. and he was free. now, he stands idly beside you. you kind of miss seeing him in a beanie. the thought brings a quiet chuckle, capturing his attention. he’s watching you-- you can feel it. “detective?” you take in the sight of the empty street, finding solace in knowing what could have been-- and what will be in the near future. you don’t know how smooth the whole process will be-- what, with the legal reform, but you can only hope that things will work out. you finally turn towards him, a comforting gentleness settling upon your visage. he realizes that he feels at ease when he’s with you. it’s a new feeling-- one that he’s recently come to understand, but one that is welcomed with open arms. “do you have a heart, connor?” he can feel it beating; he can hear it ringing in his ears. “yes.” you smile, and it is one of the most genuine ones he’s ever seen. “then you’re alive, aren’t you?” ( his lips twitch– and there it is, that faint, soft smile that you see more and more as he changes. yes, he is alive. )
#detroit: become human#detroit become human#if this doesnt show up in the tag like last time i'll Yell#this was so difficult!! connor is so hard to write#i'm happy with how it turned out tho :^))#;; mine#first verse from sleeping at last - mars
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Moodboard for the series (don't judge me I usually do gifs, this was something new. Also, I could not get the collar to look right)
So I meant to upload this yesterday but I lost control of it and then got busy, so here's a little over 3k for you!
Also, tagging @snowstark because this is our baby. Ao3 version here!
Idk what to tag this. Dark themes, spanking, forced to choose a punishment, uuuh, not sure what else. Enjoy!
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Bucky knows when Peter is going to have a hard time adjusting to Tony being gone. It had been close to a year since Bucky started working for Tony, and he's gotten familiar with all of Peter's little quirks.
And he knows the slight pout Peter sports as he waits beside Bucky for Tony to come to the door, means Peter's going to be a slight handful.
But Bucky can handle the teenager. He's been in charge of Peter's safety for long enough. Aside from Tony, Bucky knows how to get Peter to do as he's told.
Tony comes down the stairs, suit tailored and travel bag in hand. "What a sight," he grins. "My pets waiting for me."
Bucky clenches his jaw at that, but he doesnt say anything. Peter though, steps up to the Superior nuzzling into Tony's chest.
"Don't go," Peter whined. Bucky watched with a familiar jealous rock in his gut, but he stays still.
"I'll be back in five days," Tony sighed, kissing the top of Peter's curly hair.
Peter's in a pair of soft blue jean shorts and a faded Yankees sweater, the bottom cut off to show off his midriff.
Tony pushes Peter back a little and smiles fondly down at him, fingers fixing the collar around his puppy's neck, little bell tinkling.
"You be good," Tony orders, leaning down to kiss Peter's pouty lips.
Peter sulks as Tony steps away, towards the door and closer to Bucky.
"I'll be back late," Tony hums, patting Bucky on the cheek. "I'll see you both when I get back."
And with that, Tony's gone. Bucky rubs at his cheek with a slight scowl. Its a new thing, Tony touching him. And Bucky doesn't like it.
Peter spins on his heels the moment the door is shut and storms off, making Bucky sigh explosively before making his way after him.
Alpine slows him down by weaving between his legs, meowing needily.
"Damn cat, go away," he snaps, nearly kicking the thing before remembering she's Peter's.
The door to Peter and Tony's bedroom slams and Bucky sighs, pinching the bridge of his nose.
So it's going to be like this then. Bucky decides to let Peter wallow on his own. Sooner or later his emotions would get the best of him and he'd come out for comfort. Bucky wouldn't force him to before then.
Its the same song and dance. Peter cries when Tony's gone, he doesn't eat much, and just kind of sulks around the house.
If he were a real puppy, Bucky could just imagine him crying at the door with his tail tucked between his legs, looking extra pathetic.
It was during these days when Tony wasn't around that Peter got a little less obedient.
Most incidents Bucky kept to himself. Little scenes of Peter acting out of his emotions. Tony didn't need to be informed of everything.
The bigger incidences though was definitely taken to Tony. They hadn't had an incident in a while -not since Peter ran out and Bucky got shot.
Peter had been terrified after that, refused to leave the tower even with Buck and Tony there with him.
Tony had punished him good and hard for that -it still makes Bucky's stomach roll at the thought of Tony hitting Peter. Bucky still remembers how small he looked when Tony had guided him back into the penthouse.
His eyes all red, tear tracks down blushed cheeks. He had been trembling slightly. It had made Bucky sick to his stomach.
But Peter hadnt done it again. When Tony left, Peter stayed put.
"Peter, time to eat," Bucky called after knocking on the bedroom door. Peter had been locked in there for most of the two days so far Tony's been gone.
He sulks under his covers, and when he does come out, its with a pout. Something Bucky is used to.
"M'not hungry," comes Peter's petulant response through the door.
"Yes you are, pup," Bucky sighed. "Come on, out with you before I come in there."
"Said I wasn't hungry," Peter spoke, voice raising a little. Bucky cocks an eyebrow, then tries the handle of the door. Its locked.
"Peter, open this door."
"No," Peter said.
"You open this door or I'll kick it down," Bucky threatened. Peter's never locked his door before.
"Do it!" Peter snapped. "Then Tony'll be mad at you and send you to the basement!"
"Oh for fuck's sake," Bucky muttered under his breath.
"F.R.I.D.A.Y, override the lock for Peter's door," he says, looking up at the ceiling.
"I am sorry, but the lock is manual, it will have to be unlocked by Peter, Mr. Barnes."
Bucky growls, clenching his teeth.
"Open the door, Peter," he tries again.
"No."
"C'mon, pup, open up," Bucky sighed. He really didn't want to break down the door. What has gotten into Peter? He's never like this.
"Nuh-uh," Peter said. "Leave me alone."
"You know I can't do that, Pete," Bucky huffed.
"I don't need a babysitter," Peter called out. "I can take care of myself. Tony doesn't need you anymore."
"You've got five seconds and then I'm breaking the door down," Bucky said, pinching the bridge of his nose.
Peter says nothing. Bucky begins to count. He thinks Peter will crack when he reaches two, but the boy doesn't make a sound.
"Alright, last chance."
Nothing.
Bucky tries the handle once more before stepping back. He lowers his shoulder, ready to drive it into the wood before slamming into the door.
The frame splinters and the door slams into the wall with a deafening crack.
Peter jumps from his spot on the bed, eyes wide and mouth gaping in shock.
"What is going on with you, Peter?" Bucky demands, a little fed up with his behavior. "You've never acted like this before."
Peter's shock falls away to anger, eyebrows furrowing and arms crossing.
"Get out."
"No, you need to tell me why you're acting like a brat," Bucky demanded, crossing his own arms.
"M'not a brat," Peter snipped, little bell sounding as Peter turned his head away from Bucky, glaring at the wall.
"No? 'Cause you seem pretty bratty to me," Bucky challenged.
That gets Peter standing from the bed. "I'm not!"
"I'm not going to fight with a fucking child," Bucky muttered to himself. "Go into the dining room and eat your lunch."
Peter sets his jaw. Its cute. Little thing trying to be tough.
"I said I'm not hungry."
"Well, Tony wants you to eat," Bucky tries. Usually talking about what Tony wants would get Peter to do as he's told. But it doesn't work today.
So Bucky grabs Peter by the upper arm and pulls him out of the room. Peter grunts, digging his heels in, but he's small and doesn't have much muscle.
"Eat," Bucky demands, gesturing to the food he sits Peter down in front of.
Peter glares up at him, though its not as effective as he thinks with his pastel blue tshirt and matching collar.
"I hate you," Peter bites out.
"Good for you, now eat your God damn lunch before I force feed you."
To say the next three days is difficult is an understatement. Bucky has no idea why Peter's acting out the way he is, but he's had enough.
On the fourth day, Bucky actually swatted him! Peter looked up at him with wide eyes, mouth clicking shut. Bucky instantly felt sick, but he forced himself to stand his ground even as hurt and anger filtered through Peter's features.
"You hit me," Peter said. It made Bucky feel even worse, but he didnt back down.
"You're being bad," Bucky said. More anger filtered in, and Peter reached forward to try and shove him.
Bucky caught him by the wrists and Peter yelled loudly, beginning to flail.
"Peter, stop it!" Bucky snapped, pulling the pup in close and pinning him against his chest. He doesn't have room to thrash now.
"I hate you! I hate you!" Peter yelled. Bucky can hear the beginnings of tears in his voice. "I don't want you here! I want- I want Tony!"
Bucky holds Peter as he chokes on his tears, forcing Bucky to carry his weight when Peter stops holding himself up.
Bucky let's him cry it out, walking him to his bedroom. The door still wasn't fixed -Bucky didn't have time, what with Peter acting out.
He deposited Peter onto the bed. "You can come out when you're done being a brat," Bucky said shortly. Peter just fell to his side, wrapping his arms around a pillow and drawing up his legs.
Bucky walked out and flopped onto the couch, leaning his head back and staring up at the ceiling.
Maybe Tony would know what Peter's problem was. Just because he's never acted like this since Bucky moved in doesn't mean its never happened before.
Bucky's never been more glad when Tony arrives the next morning. He's exhausted. Tony -the perceptive bastard- notices right away when Bucky greets him at the elevator.
"What happened," Tony demanded. Bucky let out a sigh, shoulders slumping just a bit. He didnt like feeling like a whiner, and explaining to Tony what the past five days have been like definitely makes him feel it.
"I don't know whats gotten into him," he finishes with. He just wants to sleep for a couple days. He's never felt more like a babysitter than he does now.
"Oh, I do," Tony huffed. Bucky raised an eyebrow inquisitively. "He's jealous."
That throws Bucky for a loop. "Jealous? Of what?" He can't help but demand incredulously.
Tony smiles knowingly and lifts his hand, brushing his fingers over Bucky's jaw, pinching his chin and giving a little shake.
"Of you, pet," Tony hums, looking amused. "He's used to getting my full attention. I think he's feeling a bit misplaced."
Bucky lifts his head, pulling his chin free from Tony's grasp and taking a small step back.
"He's got no reason to be jealous of me," Bucky grunted.
"No?" Tony asked. "Lets go see our puppy then, hmm?"
Bucky frowns as Tony walks past him into the penthouse. Our puppy?
He quickly spins on his heels and follows after Tony. Theres a disapproved hum when Tony notices the door leaning against the door.
"Tony!"
Peter scrambles from the bed, rushing over to Tony and crashing into his chest. Bucky keeps his distance, hands clasped behind his back.
"I missed you."
"I'm sure," Tony hummed. "Bucky told me about your behavior while I was gone."
Bucky winces in sympathy at the tone Tony uses with Peter. The pup steps back from him, brows furrowing.
"I-"
"I don't want any excuses," Tony interrupted. Bucky watched as Peter's demeanor shifted. He knew he was in trouble, he could see it in the way Peter's shoulders slumped.
"Go wait for me in your room," Tony continued. "And when we're gone, we're going to have a talk."
"But, Tony‐" Peter began. Tony grabs him by the arm and yanks him towards the elevator that leads to the basement.
"Go," he snaps, features twisting into a look of anger. Bucky holds his ground, but he wants to rush back out of Tony's line of fire.
Peter shrinks at the tone. He doesn't try again, just makes his way to the elevator, like a dog scurrying out of trouble with his tail between his legs.
"Are you really going to punish him?" Bucky asked, following Tony towards the elevator Peter had just disappeared through. "If he's just acting out of jealousy-"
"His acting out got me a broken door and a puppy with an attitude problem," Tony said. "I brought you here to take care of him while I'm away. His behavior hindered that and that won't do."
Bucky follows Tony into the elevator. He doesn't say anything, just stands beside Tony, watching the floors pass in glowing numbers above the doors.
When they reach the basement floor, the doors open and Tony steps out, already heading for the door that leads to Peter's room.
"Come on, pet," Tony calls over his shoulder. Bucky's legs work without him, taking him out of the elevator and into the main room.
"I'm not a pet," Bucky grunted. Tony glances over his shoulder, smirking. His blue eyes shining with amusement.
"I beg to differ," Tony hummed, before reaching a hand out and clasping Bucky by the back of the neck.
Bucky allows the Superior to pull him closer as they make their way to the door.
Buck decides not to argue the issue. Better to keep on Tony's good side.
Tony opens the door, and Bucky's eyes widen at the sight of Peter on the bed, naked. Hes on his elbows and knees, pert little ass up in the air.
He's hidden his face in his arms, and doesn't realize Bucky is here with Tony.
"He does paint a pretty picture, doesn't he?" Tony murmurs lowly, arm still wrapped around Bucky's shoulders, nosing at Bucky's jaw.
"I can leave," Bucky says lowly, glancing from Peter to Tony.
"No, I want you here," Tony decides, shutting the door. Bucky chews on his inner cheek, staying close to the door as Tony walks over to the wall of -Bucky feels his stomach drop. He doesn't know if he can watch this.
"M'sorry," Peter whines, turning his head to see Tony at the wall.
"I know you are," Tony said, looking over the items hanging on the wall. Bucky's never seen so many switches and floggers before.
"But that doesn't change the fact that you were a bad puppy."
Peter's breath hitches and he hides his face again. Bucky watches Tony pick out a flat leather paddle from the wall. One of the less intimidating items hanging on the wall.
"How many hits do you think he deserves?" Tony says, catching both Peter and Bucky off guard. Peter's head turns, wide eyes locking onto him before he seems to shrink, hiding his face away again, but not leaving the position Tony most likely trained him to be in.
It takes Bucky a moment to realize Tony was talking to him, and he blinks, looking over at the Superior. "What?"
"You had to deal with his poor behavior for five days, so you decide his punishment," Tony said.
Bucky looks wide eyed at Peter, pale and naked except for the baby blue collar around his neck. He shakes his head.
"Come on, pet," Tony goads. "What does he deserve?"
Bucky hears Peter whimper at that and he feels his skin crawl. He shakes his head again, feeling sick. "I can't."
Tony's mouth drops in a frown, looking disappointed. Bucky doesn't care. He can't.
"Fine," he hums. "Then fifty hits."
Peter lifts his head, breath hitching and tears streaming down his cheeks.
"Ten for each day."
Bucky feels his throat closing up.
"N-no," Peter sobbed. "No, please, Tony!"
Tony looks at Bucky, challenging glint in his Extremis blue eyes. "Bucky doesn't want to choose, so I'm chosing for him, puppy."
Peter turns to look at Bucky, pleasing with a trembling breath.
Bucky digs his nails into his palms. He looks from Peter to Tony, then back to Peter.
If Bucky chooses a lower number, Tony may not agree to it. But Bucky doesn't want Peter being hit -especially in front of him.
"Twenty," he manages to say, unsticking his throat. His voice is tense, body rigid and hands clasped behind him. Outwardly, he looks calm and collected, but inside he wants to do nothing but run out of the basement.
Tony doesn't say anything for a moment, and Bucky's sure its just as long for Peter as it is for him.
"Alright, twenty it is," Tony agrees. Bucky feels the muscles in his shoulders unwind a little at that.
"Count them out, pup."
Its the worst few minutes of Bucky's life. He served tours over seas. He's killed people with his bear hands and lost an arm, and he'd go through all of that ten times if it meant he didn't have to be in the same room as Tony and Peter right now.
Each smack has Bucky's pulse spiking, each sobbed out count down like agony. Its a punishment all its own to be forced to stand by while Peter cries, the loud smack of leather on skin filling the room.
The worst thing is Bucky is the reason he's got twenty spanks in the first place. Sure, its less than fifty, but he's still the one who offered a number.
Bucky doesn't even care anymore about Peter's behavior. He just wants Tony to stop.
Peter's ass is just as red as his face, and his breath hitches on cries, but the boy doesn't move. Bucky has no doubt if he had, the punishment would be far worse.
"Twen-twen'y," Peter finally gasps out wetly, dropping onto the bed.
Bucky restrains himself from rushing over there and scooping the boy up. His nails dig painfully into his palms.
He watches Tony do it instead. Watches as Tony's hand turns soft, scooping Peter up and settling him onto his lap, careful of his poor bottom.
Tony smooths Peter's curls from his forehead, muttering lowly against Peter's cheek as the boy cries, arms lifting to wrap around Tony's shoulders.
Tony glances up at Bucky and nods. "Come here, pet."
Bucky's too concerned with Peter to argue the pet name. He makes his way over to the bed in three long strides and sits down beside Tony and Peter.
Peter peeks out from Tony's neck, eye red rimmed. His breath hitches.
"M'sorry, Bucky," he cries, voice reedy and wobbling with tears.
"Thats alright, Pete," Bucky said softly.
Peter tucks himself back into Tony's neck, allowing the Superior to smooth his hands up and down Peter's bare back.
"Go with with Bucky, pup," Tony says a moment later, once Peter's tears have tapered off a little. Bucky's eyes widen at that, but he can't do much else, because Peter's crawling out of Tony's lap and settling into his own.
Bucky doesn't know what to do. He's wearing cargo pants, and he can't help but worry they're too rough for Peter.
And then he's stuck on the fact that he's got a very naked Peter in his lap. The boy leans into Bucky's chest, head resting on his shoulder.
Bucky settles a hand on Peter's lower back -as low as he dares- and rubs circles into his skin.
"I think its time we had a little talk," Tony said, looking first at Peter, then at Bucky.
#marvel#tony stark#peter parker#bucky barnes#sim!tony#my writing#ao3#human puppy#starker#winterironspider
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no nuance november!
a/n: which is basically you have a bunch of opinions and dont explain any of em' and let your followers discuss them (much more suited for tiktok sjsnj). i'll be doing it since it compiles with many topics like fandom, racism, lgbtq+, politics and etc. i highly encourage people to do this simply because why not? feel free to send your own opinions n stuff, i wanna know what my followers think!!
disclaimer!! ⚠️ all of these are broad, not pin pointing certain people or situations. even though these are my opinions these were all in fun and have been collected over the years and will change as time goes on. nothing is sugar-coated so thread carefully. feel free to agree or disagree. :)
warning(s): mentions of racism, p*do micro aggression, fetishizing, toxicity, abuse, politics, labelling, mental health, cancelling, fandoms, ages.
key:
iswis = i said what i said, no explanation to that one.
whe = will happily explain.
stop sexualizing gay/m|m/yaoi relationships. it's not only demonizing to the males, it's also very fetishizing. (iswis)
most times /10 yall root for "feminine men" when you really mean white boys and fetishised asian men on social media. (whe)
bullying someone isnt educating. you either cant cope with the fact people have different opinions from you or you have a struggle with things either always never going your way or the opposite. (iswis)
straight people will never have a say in lgbtq+ issues. stop inserting yourself. (iswis)
white people will never have a say in poc issues. stop inserting yourself. (iswis)
poc will never have a say in black people issues. stop inserting yourself. (vice versa but im black and it happens more often to us lol) (iswis)
using the defense, "but black lives matter, right?" when one black person does something bad isnt facts, youre racist. (iswis)
fandom adults need to stop gatekeeping the target audience (demographics) to animes/shows. (iswis)
poc people can be racist. (whe)
even if a certain site was adult doesnt mean that every adult wants to see your porn. either keep it to yourself or tag properly. (iswis)
saying shit like, "im more xyz than you and im not even xyz" is not only disrespectful but disgusting. just because you believe in a popular opinion of a group does NOT suddenly make you a person in it, get over yourself. (iswis)
dont hate on people for the same things you have done at a young age. (ex: writing fanfic, seggs, etc) (iswis)
blaming a minor/someone mentally unstable for being abused is not only victim blaming, but it enables the notion that people who go those things that they wanted it. (iswis)
going off of that last point, if you do victim blame for situations and been in them yourself you either still havent coped with what you went through and still think it was your fault when it wasnt. (whe)
it's stupid people hate minors for being undeveloped when adults are the reason as to why people get traumas, abused and quite literally are destroying the world right now. (iswis)
gen z is white as fuck. (iswis)
early 2000s kids are equivalent to 90s kids who use to post, "only 90s kids under this" and post something that 2000-5 experienced. (iswis)
dear 2005+ kids, abusing harmful substances and having sex doesnt make you grown. stop it. (iswis)
adults, being able to post porn doesnt make you grown or mature, stop believing that it does. (iswis)
just because it's a coping mechanism doesnt mean it's healthy. (iswis)
avoiding conflict doesnt mean youre mature. if there is an active problem and you know ignoring it will only benefit you and not the actual problem at hand that is selfish. (iswis)
black women generate clout for everyone. when we're hated the person gets patted on the back, someone appreciates black girls they are praised, and people of many groups repeatedly steal from our culture. (iswis)
YES THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING BLACK AND AFRICAN AMERICAN. (whe)
if youre black you do not have to be democrat OR republican, there are many other parties. (whe)
i do not trust either parties, no minority should. (whe)
this 2020 election was not a win for poc people no matter who won. (iswis)
we do not decide whether or not what to do on columbus day. it is up to the natives themselves. (whe)
pointing out other countries (current) faults is not racist. although the issue can be misconstrued, if proper research is done it safe to say it's an educated observation or opinion. (whe)
privilege heavily varies; ex, americans are seen as privileged, while the people who live in it experience a disadvantage because of the societal standards. within the country itself. (whe)
americans, stop saying that america is the worst country and there are other countries who are suffering much worse than we are. yes sometimes it sucks but do not label it as the worst. (iswis + whe)
white people are privileged and will always be until we break the racist issues deep rooted in EVERY community. (iswis)
9/10 when marginalized groups like (women, lgbt) are mostly focused on white people and never address the poc counter parts. using the excuse "well idk much about that" is not good enough and just promotes pseudo-white supremecy. (iswis + whe)
do not use aave. (iswis)
aave is not gen z language, stop calling it that. (iswis)
gay men (white especially) use black women and get praised for the things we do that are called ghetto. (iswis)
yes it is offensive if you touch a black persons hair with or without permission. we are not your pets nor zoo animals. (iswis)
and yes it is offensive if you see a black women with beautiful hair and assume it's fake or ask, "is it yours?" "is it real?" (iswis)
using jailbait as an excuse to lewd minors is just as disgusting. (iswis)
beauty standards for women is rooted from pedophilia. (iswis)
using other pedophilic relationships as an excuse to ship yours is disturbing and you shouldnt be near children at any capacity. (iswis)
everything doesnt need a label. (iswis)
the fact that gangs have been criminalized while mafias havent is racist and feeds the stereotypes that poc are criminals. (iswis)
people are more forgiving to white predators than to poc (neither are good but people let white off the hook more often). (iswis)
if youre okay with your friends being racists, creeps, abusers you are just as bad. (iswis)
although you can like what you like, making dark content shouldnt be as glorified as much as it is. (iswis)
some kinks do deserve to be kink shamed. (iswis)
adults need to be more held accountable when held in situations with minors. (iswis + whe)
everyone perceives the world differently, many people will see the same things you see differently. (iswis)
calling people crazy for questioning the things around them doesnt make them crazy, youre just asleep. (iswis)
the human body can function without a soul. (iswis)
stop disrespecting christianity. you wouldnt do the same with hinduism, islam and etc. (iswis)
the bible was altered by white men and the true meanings have been misconstrued. (iswis + whe)
bullying someone who you THINK is problematic is not excuse to be hateful. youre just scum and feel the need to justify your actions. (iswis)
not everyone has to like you and dont need a reason. (iswis)
just because you dont like someone doesnt mean you have to make a show of it. be mature and move along. (iswis)
yes callouts/cancelling has its place but it's never done right. (iswis)
"cancel culture" wasnt a thing till white people joined in. (iswis)
dont cancel someone for stuff they did years ago. bringing it up is important but not allowing them to understand, reflect, and apologize is not only bullying it defeats the purpose of bringing awareness. (iswis)
big writers need to stop complaining when one fic or a few dont do good. not only does it rub in small writers faces, it shows that if you need people's validation to write you probably shouldnt be writing. some works will be popular and some will flop, get over it. (iswis)
stop witch hunting & crucifying people for shit you have done or your friends have done and going "uwu sorry" when you get caught. (iswis)
90% people believe content creators with bigger audiences. (iswis)
people spontaneously posting, "uwu take care of your mental health" doesnt mean that they actually care. (iswis)
people are always quick to judge people with real mental health such as depression, anxiety, adhd, and etc are always the one to turn and pretend to be exactly what they just mocked. (iswis)
dont have kids if youre not going to take care of them. (iswis)
stop baiting baby otakus (people freshly getting into anime) into watching cp like yarichin bitch club or boku no pico. they are minors, it's not funny, stop it. (iswis)
stop being protective & toxic over anime characters. if they were real they probably wouldnt even like you. (iswis)
just because someone is your friend doesnt mean that they arent toxic or abusive. (iswis)
start believing when people show their true traits. (iswis)
trauma happens in different forms, stop saying something didnt happen because it didnt go the way that has commonly happened or the way it occurred to you. (iswis)
stop saying minors should "know" while also being the loudest to say that our brains arent even developed till 25. (iswis)
the adult age should be raised to 20 years old. (iswis + whe)
tos should be raised to 16 years old. (iswis + whe)
minors take "18+" & "minors dni" out of your bio. (iswis)
yelling at minors for finding the content you freely put out without any care is your fault not theirs. (iswis)
there are plenty of adult sites that are more confined for adults but you guys ignore them because youd rather get popular on writing erotica on a popular social media platform. (iswis)
trying to cancel someone over one mistake and or blowing said things out of proportion is toxic and stupid. (iswis)
if you take someone saying they need to distance themselves for mental health reasons personally and make them feel bad for it youre an actual shitty person. (iswis)
if someone disrespects you, you have the right to say whatever you want in response. (iswis + whe)
stop hypersexualizing everything (adults especially). (iswis)
the excuses of, "they look grown" "i mentally think xyz" "theyre fake" is creepy and weird and yall should come up with a better excuse. (iswis)
yes i do believe minors should be writing for minors only, but i will not give a shit if an adult does if said characters are aged up in every work sfw or not. (iswis)
stop saying teens cant go through traumatic things and cant experience mental illnesses. it just shows that you werent cared for as a child and never get the therapy for it. (iswis)
gen z has a very colonized idea of activism. (iswis)
feminism was never for all women until the rest of us forced ourselves in. and even now it's still an issue whether or not people realize it or not. (iswis)
poc solidarity doesnt exist as much as we try to make it happen. (iswis)
colorism is an issue, and no you will not tell me otherwise. (iswis)
the hot cheeto girl is offensive and demeans black & hispanic culture. (iswis)
stop bashing minors for breathing, just say youre mad youre not young anymore and move on. (iswis)
black men are the white people of black people. (iswis)
there is no reason as to why you anyone would refer to black people as "blacks". nor should you (non-black people) be arguing whether or not to say nigga even with the hard r. (iswis)
if you (pertains to white people) think white privilege doesnt exist but go on to make fun of or ignore minority problems you are the living and breathing example of what we are talking about. (iswis)
loli/shotas are fucking disgusting and people who like it deserve to be tortured for eternity. (iswis)
seriously, stop using theyre "fake" as an excuse. (iswis)
if youre comfortable with being hateful to someone but still consider yourself a nice person because you do the hate minimum to be a decent human, youre either a narcissist or have a god complex. (iswis)
coons have no say in black issues. (iswis)
people need to stop blaming the "home wrecker" for ruining the relationship when it was the s/o's fault as well. there is no home to enter without an owner. (iswis)
stop saying any asian man yo see reminds you of a haikyuu character and or any anime character. it's racist. (iswis)
stop saying any asian person looks like a kpop idol, it's racist. (iswis)
stop downplaying and invalidating when black women go through traumatic things. not only does it promote that we have to be strong and save everyone else's problems, it says that we dont have emotions and cant be a victim which is disgusting. (iswis)
if you say shit like "minors curate your own experience" then go and turn around to say you REFUSE TO TAG YOUR SHIT YOU ARE LITERALLY MAKING THE PROCESS OF CENSORING HARD! (iswis)
white women are just as much of a problem as white men. only difference is sex keeping them apart. (iswis)
stop saying kpop is racist. expecting artists from a different political progression to understand that things can be offensive is bland. (iswis)
people accept boy groups fuck-ups more than they accept girl groups. and most times out of ten, the males are worse. (iswis)
if you engage in nsfw conversation with a minor, it is your fault they responded. (iswis)
anyone can be abused. (iswis)
stop coddling adults and bullying minors. (iswis)
most of you females have internalized misogyny and dont even know it. (iswis)
you can callout issues without having to drag a group of people. same with uplifting. (iswis)
if youre fine with being a sheep unfollow me. (iswis)
seven deadly sins is not a good anime. (iswis)
there is a difference between boku no hero academia fans based on if they call it "bnha" or "mha". (iswis)
ships literally are not serious stop harassing people over ships. (iswis)
do not harass creators of series because they do something with THEIR story. make your own. (iswis)
stop saying horikoshi sexualizes his women too much/mineta is the worst when you guys enjoy shows like one piece, hunter x hunter, naruto and etc. (iswis)
minors often or not are sheeps (heres your sign you dont have to agree with everything other people say). (iswis)
just because minors can be mature doesnt mean that they are adults. stop treating them as such. (iswis)
we should give more voice actors in the asmr (idk what to call it) community more recognition instead of just one. (iswis)
writers are the ones that send hate to other writers. anon hate is so corny and if you do it that goes to show that you are truly a toxic person wearing a fake mask of kindness when youre not on anonymous. (iswis)
stop being mean to smaller writers because they did not have as much luck as you. (iswis)
stop blaming your readers because one story flopped. (iswis)
ignoring someone's shitty actions encourages them to do it more. (iswis)
going to school and getting a job is much harder now than it was before. (iswis)
being an adult doesnt automatically make you mature. just because youre older doesnt mean youre better or you opinion is more valuable. it just shows that you werent heard when you were younger. (iswis)
there should be no reason as to why someone of the age of 18 should be having any romantic relationship with someone who is a minor. (iswis)
hawks is a shitty character. (iswis)
bakudeku isnt toxic. (iswis)
just because bakugo is in a ship, doesnt mean it's toxic. (iswis)
stop shipping male characters together simply because they have screen time together. it's creepy. (iswis)
almost all of 1-a students have ptsd and anything close to the after effects of being traumatized. (iswis)
no, editing characters to be poc is not racist. youre just mad they arent "white" when they never were. theyre asian and come in many colors as well. (iswis)
wanting to only be with a different race to get a mixed baby is fucking disgusting. (iswis)
stop ignoring pedo relationships between older women and younger boys and or with older women in general. (iswis)
males can be abused, stop telling them to suck it up or that they cant go through things. (iswis)
shaming young females about things they cant control is misogynistic and is damaging to their identity and shouldnt be excused. (iswis + whe)
not all females have to shave. (iswis)
what you dont like in someone is the projections you see of yourself on other people that you dont like about yourself. (whe)
popular bl stories extremely misrepresent gay relationships and frankly it's disgusting that theyre boosted as much as they are. (iswis)
jjba isnt ugly, you just watch animes to sexualize the characters. (iswis)
it's shitty that anime and kpop only became cool once white people stated to like it and made it mainstream. go gatekeep family guy or something. (iswis)
if you have been anime fan for a long time you were with bullied/teased for just generally liking it or you were a weirdo who recreated shit from it. (iswis)
weaboo and weeb were bad terms till we made them positive?? literally otaku is the word for it but we use weeb instead lol. (whe)
normalize and promote educating someone without going straight to bullying them. (whe)
haikyuu isnt really a good manga/anime nor is the art style the best but the characters make up for it. (iswis)
stop misusing terms and stop nitpicking definitions to manipulate your narrative. (iswis)
toxic positivity is manipulative and if you have to make it back handed you are not as nice as you like to make it seem. (iswis)
studying a major doesnt mean youre actually good in the subject. (iswis)
normalize people realizing their past mistakes and growing from it. (iswis)
do not self diagnos unless you actually feel like you may have that issue and would like to seek help. mental health is not a personality trait. (iswis)
stop projecting onto people. (iswis)
stop misusing terms and stop nitpicking definitions to fit your narrative. (iswis)
stealing any type of work should not be tolerated. (iswis)
constantly trying to trigger someone to go back to their old ways (being toxic, abusive, addiction, suicidal etc) after changing is toxic and manipulative. (iswis)
if you make jokes about hurting kids and or feel the need speak badly about them i do not want to speak to you. (iswis)
the human brain wasnt developed to understand complex ideas such as death or the universe. (iswis)
we will never truly know what is beyond our skies. (iswis)
thats all, thanks for sifting!
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