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[appelsauc]

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[the-worst-fe-player]

Coming from a place of sheer curiosity and being clueless because I'm late to the fandom, what kinds of ~problems~ did people have with Corrin being a self-insert rather than a separate character in Fates (aside from possibly being 'cringy')? That and compared to Fates I felt very lost and disinterested playing Awakening because Chrom just had so much going on with his own story that I had a hard time keeping up and couldn't really get emotionally invested in the game.

There quite a few problems people had with corrin I cant rember them all but these are the ones that stuck out to me the most lol also sorry I rambled for like a hell of a lot I'm sorry. And ah I get you tbh the way awakening and fates told there storys were a bit different so I get why that could happen ^_^

Everyone trust them = the whole everyone trusting and loving corrin minus a couple characters like takumi and sucking up to the player. I like half agree with this I think there were def moments it was like that (the ice village chef especially in conquest, the hoshido royals forgiving him same with norh but a little less and a couple more) but tbh with how extreme that critsims was I do think a lot of people over exaggerated it especially when 3 houses literally a million times worse with making the player the centre of the universe and that barley got any of the hate fates did

No personilty = this is my main problem honstly corrin definitely did have some personilty but it wasn't nearly as much as other characters in the game and unlike Robin who had chrom and eventually lucina there to lead extremely emotional charged scenes so they can still be self inserts without having to show to much corrin didn't have that as much especially as azura is a pretty passive in emotions character therefore she couldnt hold the scenes for corrin like chrom did for robin. So like it was more obvious that corrin didn't have as much as other characters if that makes sense especially early game when all you have is azura and Elise. one thing I do like is how much corrin crys but as a cry baby I felt that but I know a lot of the fandom didn't as well so they felt more divosed from the character there ment to project onto. Also the no killing thing I know that pissed a lot of people off

Everything handed to them = yeah I'm still conflicted to this the main thing is how easy they got yato and while I would argue yeah just getting the legendary sword handed to you because you desented to save the world isn't the best its honstly no different to how most other lords have there sword handed to them because of bloodline lol.

How everyone loves them in the end = I didn't really get this when it comes to support as like that how self inserts always work like minus when your support, soical link, friendship meter or whatever it's called in that game is with a major antagonist the self insert will end up being friends or lovers with them at the end. In the story its talking about how in those death seens the dead characters forgive corrin and I feel like that make sense for like mikoto and xander but I feel like the others would probably still be a little pissed

They don't suffer - so the argument is that no matter what rout corrin takes they dont suffer. I think that's completely untrue apart from rev. Like in conquest he loses his brothers his home country is in shambles and has a leader that never thought she would be there "I never thought it would fall to me to rule Hoshido. I always took it for granted that Ryoma would eventually be king" and hinoka even says there are people that want corrin dead so it's not like they can vist there home land casual "I advise all of you to exercise caution when visiting Hoshido." And in birthrights just having your little sister pretty much die in vain from trying to stop the fight and saving you only to still be forced to kill your big brother who pretty much used you to commit sucide! sounds really bloody rough

There are probably some more reasons that I have forgotten but tbh like the majority of the prombles corrin had byleth had 10× worse if we are being 100% honsent and for some reason the fandom doesn't care as much anymore thats why I think if they re wrote corrin as a non self insert it would work better because they wouldn't be tied down by those problems agin