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ghost-go-roasty-mctoasty · 4 years ago

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*Cass dies*

Dean: "whoops there he goes. Oh well. Quick quick let's burn his body I don't have all day. K cool. Sammy want beer?"

*Sam dies*

Dean: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DOES ANYONE WANT MY SOUL? ONE SOUL FOR SALE!! AAAAAAAAAA NOONE? ALRIGHT FINE I GUESS I HAVE TO KILL MYSELF!

*cass dealing with "hallucifer"*

Dean: "nobody cares that you're broken cass!"

*Sam dealing with hallucifer*

Dean: "baby. Baby boy. Oh my poor baby. Oh dear me. Come here let me hold you. Get some sleep Sammy it's okay."

Cass: "put the blade down. Please"

Dean: "no lol" *bashes him up*

Sam: "put the blade down. Please"

Dean: "okay Sammy. Here lemme just kill death for ya too."

*cass sacrifices himself to save dean*

Dean: "Oh look a dog! :D"

Cass: "I'm a pathetic vulnerable human with angels chasing me. Please let me stay in the bunker."

Dean: "no lol get out you might put Sammy in danger."

#lololol #this is basically canon right?#anti hellers #sam winchester #sam and dean #dean winchester #anti destiel #anti cas #anti castiel #if any of you hellers see this that means you're in the wrong tags so get out lol and don't send me anon asks y'all boring

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eisforeidolon · 3 years ago

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I'm kinda getting tired of the narrative that Jared stans are acting like hellers. Afaik none of them have sent any death threats, suicide baited, doxxed, threatened, harassed, run campaigns against any real people. Calling Jensen names without tagging him or the people who love him isn't the same. They aren't even being that mean imo. This stems from them thinking Jensen is wrong for making the prequel and the way he's doing it, J2 fans don't. That's a difference of opinion and it's fine. 1/2

I disagree with a lot of what they're saying but I've simply muted them and if the rest of J2 fans block/mute/unfollow them, they wouldn't even know about it. This is not the same as hellers and conflating the two makes it seem like the issue with hellers is a petty difference in fannish opinion. It's not. Frankly I'm bothered by some J2 stans' insistence that everyone in the fandom agree on this, when that's never been the case. This is where 'agree to disagree' comes in. Also, one is allowed 2 To be a fan of just one J or criticize one of them for the choices they've made. No one was screaming you're just like the hellers when people were mad at Jared for working with stands. No one was mad when some didn't want to support Walker. Given that Jensen is making a SPN prequel and these people have been fans of SPN they will have opinions, even harsh ones. Even the wildest theories about abuse from a few (clearly to troll those who stalk their page) don't make them the same as hellers. 3/3

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Response under the cut for those officially Over It, especially so my opinions on it.

Here's my issue: I've seen it happen several times over the years with Jared stans before that when it comes to criticizing Jared, anything counts as hate. Hellers/AA mock his hair, call him a shitty actor, make fun of the way he phrases things, what he chooses to post, think Walker is dumb, make up nonsense SJW bullshit about it, snark about what he does/doesn't promote, et cetera? It's all just terrible, what a bunch of hateful awful people who just can't leave anything he does alone! Don't they have anything better to do than hate on Jared, like pay attention to their own fave who is obviously inferior since they're so obsessed with mine? However, the second it's them doing the same level of petty bitching about anybody else? Oh, well, that's not really hate, they're just bored and it's just their opinion - Jared gets death threats, you know! Like the fact that some of the hellers who hate on Jared are disturbingly genuine bargain basement psycho security concerns makes it inherently 100% unobjectionable to talk any lesser level of shit about anyone else - so long as it doesn't go as far as the worst of the worst Jared haters. I don't subscribe to that - petty nitpicking bullshit is either hate or it isn't.

I get what you're saying that the most extreme hellers' behavior is so so much worse, like, by miles of degree from what Jared stans are doing now. Yes, I agree 100%. However, I think that's playing a little disingenuously fast and loose with what people mean when they talk about hellers, because we don't just talk about only the worst of the worst when we use that term. It's the direct harassment & death threats AND it's the obsessive social media following of actors you dislike, taking every opportunity to toss out insults, worst faith reinterpretations, assumptions of malice, insulting nicknames, accusations of abuse, etc. Which, if you don't think they're sometimes doing purely to troll the parts of the J2 fandom that stalk their blogs... No, I haven't seen any death threats from Jared stans and only a couple of obviously Jared-inspired insulting comments directly on Jensen's social media. I do however see an uncomfortable similarity when it comes to the low level petty nonsense lesser hellers constantly make posts on over everything and nothing at all - which is not all centered on the prequel, even if it was the flashpoint and remains the excuse. Hell, I also think this whole project has been a haphazard disaster and the idea itself sounds dumb - yet that somehow hasn't made me incapable of getting through a post without making personal digs at Jensen.

And you are right in that the best way to deal with it is to block/mute/unfollow or at least mind the tags and adjust one's expectations. Of course those Jared stans are entitled to have their opinions and to continue posting about them however the fuck they want on their own accounts. Except those of us who feel disappointed are also entitled to feel so. Not just over disagreeing with people we normally have a lot of common ground with, but also seeing uncomfortable patterns in the way those opinions are being expressed - except apparently that can't actually be a thing because it's not an echo of the worst possible behavior of the most extreme crazies. I.e. the same old same old there's no death threats or harassment, so if it's not directed at Jared it's not really hate, so how could anyone possibly be bothered by it?

#askboxery #anonymous #j2 prequel drama #anti actor stans #anti jared stans #minor anti prequel sentiment

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my-sherlock221b · 4 years ago