#idk what it is abt idols younger than me

[swee7dream]

chat i think i’m getting into bnd ≧０≦

i might write for them, i might not. not sure yet but if i do i prob won’t write for woohak

[ackackh]

question about dogstar because im really loving the depth you've given to the side characters so far, eddie's siblings in particular... idk what my question is exactly but like how did you come up with their individual personalities and roles in the plot u can answer however u want i guess i just wanna hear u talk abt eddies siblings and also his relationship with them. also excited to see more of andys family so if u are willing to share anything abt them i'll eat it up ive been thinking abt dogstar a lot lately :)

A friend asking me to talk about my OCs? This is like mana from heaven. I love you, I’ll love you forever.

(I span a fuckin yarn, so I’ll give this a read more, sorry!!) 🩷

So, I am the youngest of three and my two brothers are nearly a decade older than me. I totally idolized them growing up, and now they’re two of my best friends, so I guess siblings are just important to me. My dad is also the second youngest of /13/ so I had all kinds of insane stories to inspire ideas about the Jones Siblings. A lot of their personalities just developed naturally as I wrote, for example, I had no idea Sheridan was gonna be like, a lil spitfire as a kid until I found myself writing it. And Marion sort of developed into a more maternal character on her own, just per the fact that she’s the oldest daughter in the house now that Sheridan is married. (Sorry to eldest daughters everywhere)

That sort of thing happened in my dad’s family too, the kids were all like 2 years apart, but they kinda grouped up and had oldest->youngest siblings dynamics within those groups. Like when Andy realizes that Eddie was probably doing all the things Marion does now when they were younger.

Joe, I knew what was up with him immediately because of his role in the plot of Our Hemisphere, but I really wanted to flesh him out this time. He’s such a fucking middle child, which makes sense with their little group because it starts with Eddie and more-or-less ends with Michael. Being the second son sort of fucked him up a bit, he’ll never be the baby in a family as big as theirs but he’s never been honored with the role of eldest son. EXCEPT: plot twist of his life, his oldest brother goes off to war and he’s stuck at home and he’s incredibly jealous but also suddenly saddled with all the expectations of an eldest son. All of which only gets compacted further when Eddie returns and is Not Right. (I missed you, I hated you, I wanted to be you, and now You’re Not Even You! What the fuck am I supposed to do with that!)

Michael is a middle child but what he actually is, is a little brother and a big brother. He’s in both the oldest and middle groups of siblings, and Marion and Katherine probably see him at his most authentic, his most relaxed, the three of them are absolutely ride or die. But with Joe, that’s His Big Brother. He would do anything he asks, anything that would impress Joe. It’s part (a large part) of why he’s involved with all the shit with the Brubakers. And in some later developments (no spoilers) it becomes clearer that he’s striving to find an identity, to do something his family will be proud of, something his siblings can’t do as well as him. I’ve really broken my own heart with this guy.

Katherine being bookish is also something that just sort of happened. I admit, I’d like to develop her more, but I think being like, smack-dab in the middle of everybody is stressful. And she’s another oldest-sibling-youngest-sibling kid, and her books are her escape from all of that. She’s a bit trapped, y’know? She (and Marion tbh) is sort of just expected to take care of their younger siblings and isn’t given a lot of guidance herself. She is absolutely the kind of kid who watched her siblings have conflict with their parents and learned not to be the squeaky wheel. Not because the Jones parents would do anything bad but because she felt like it was her duty to be the good kid.

(This was me, by the way. So we can assume that at some point in life she’ll go apeshit) (just probably not in this story)

The four youngest sort of operate as a unit. They are The Kids, the ones their parents actively worry about, the ones that cannot fend for themselves at all, really. A lot of their lives are defined by the boundaries of agency and (somewhat) neglect. What I mean by this is, they have long hours of their days in which no one is looking in on them, in which no one /has time/ to look in on them, in which if they were to ask for help, they might not receive any. But the rest of their time is spent being sheparded by some member of the family. They have very little agency in any real-life decisions and very little privacy. John and Frank, preteen twins, damn, are just starting to press against this, testing boundaries. Some of which could stands to be broken, tbh. The younger two, Walter and Ruth, certainly need to be sheparded. They’re babies.

And Ruth! Oh my darling baby, Ruth. She is so special to Eddie. I don’t think he would say so aloud, but that is /his baby sister/. He’s so partial toward her and he feels similarly toward her as he felt towards Sheridan growing up. Only probably more protective because….baby. He absolutely still views himself as the leader of his siblings, and he’s frustrated by his inability to slip back into that role now that he’s home. And worse is that Ruth won’t even pretend with him, at least his other siblings are trying to let him be who he was, Ruth is like “who the fuck is this guy? I’m supposed to listen to him?” She’s just protecting herself, keeping her distance because even if she’s little, she can read a room. She can tell that everyone is acting /weird/.

I’m most excited to continue the evolution of their relationship. I promise, it’ll get better.

Now, Andy’s family…

The biggest piece of Andy’s family is his younger brother Bill, who you /will/ meet. Eventually. Andy, of course, is a big brother. If he was a younger brother, I imagine he would have an older sister (which, I would love to see him get the little brother treatment tbh but this is not our story). But his relationship with Bill is very different from Eddie’s with Joe or Michael or Sheridan. He’s about a decade older than him and has trouble relating to him as a man bc in his mind, Bill is still a little kid.

There’s this sort of reversal that’s happened with he and his brother, which hopefully my writing will reflect as the story goes on. Andy was the all-American son, picture perfect (especially if we don’t know about him being queer) and he wasn’t very hard on his parents to raise. Bill, on the other hand, was a menace. Like, I would be too if I were constantly compared to Andy. He wanted to be himself! He wanted to be noticed! God forbid he gets in a little trouble, right?

Then, Andy goes off to war, Bill doesn’t, and Bill does a lot of growing and changing in that time. He grows up, he gets married, he moves into a house with his wife, and now it’s Andy who’s the problem child. It’s Andy who can’t figure out how to live with his parents, who feels like he’s falling behind. And really, it still smarts for Bill bc ANDY is still getting all the goddamn attention! Like, he’s grown now, it isn’t so stark a contrast away from their childhood home, but Bill still notices and he has to try not to let it hurt him.

And, uh, without going into spoilers, Andy’s relationship with Bill will be tested in this story. For reasons you might be able to put together. Again, you’re the younger brother, you feel a little invisible, you feel like you can never measure up, and then you find out he’s /so/ different than you thought. How do you handle it? (Not great, if you’re Bill).

Both of these families love each other. And don’t get me wrong, any of these siblings would throw hands for their brothers and sisters, but families are complicated. Especially ones as big as Eddie’s. I’ve highlighted a lot of the issues they have here bc that’s what drives the story, but they really do love each other. And they did/do have relatively happy childhoods, it’s just… this is the meat of it y’know?

Anyway, I’ve spoken for way too long, the band is officially playing me off. Thank you for this ask! It is so encouraging that you’ve been thinking about my story and it’s incredibly flattering. Love you, anon!

[rachelcommitscrimes]

im gonna rant abt how much i hate the ghost eyes fandom (as a former fan) bc im just kinda mad rn

so uhh yeah major TW for s3lf h4rm, romanticizing mental illness, su1c1de, sadomasochism, infantilization, and rlly just anything related to that

(also sorry if this looks weird idk how to separate stuff on tumblr)

also DO NOT harass the creator or anyone mentioned here, you’re no better than them if you do that

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ok so i read ghost eyes like 2 years ago but i stopped reading about the point where they were on that field trip. i still think it’s a nice comic and i’m sure the author is a cool person, also the art style is awesome. but the fandom is so fucking gross that i’m surprised more people haven’t talked about it. 

for some backstory on this, i used have REALLY bad depression and was cutting myself regularly (i’m much better now, i have medication, therapy, and i’m almost a year clean) i also stopped reading due to the comic severely damaging my mental health and i’m very glad i did. i was younger and immature and thought i could handle such content. this led to me becoming extremely obsessed with the comic to an unhealthy level, and getting severely attached to one of the characters (rudy) because i could relate to him at that time. i seriously thought that i WAS him sometimes.

i understand now that i should NOT have ignored the label and what i did was definitely wrong and if the creator is reading this i deeply apologize. i’m in a much better place now and i’m just glad that i was able to get the help i needed.

ok now to the angry part

if you don’t know what ghost eyes is, it’s a webcomic about a severely traumatized boy attending school for the first time and meeting a bunch of other severely traumatized kids. this comic has a crap ton of triggering/sensitive/disturbing topics (which is not a bad thing as long as you do it right) and like i said before, the creator has kindly put a warning before the comic starts stating that you SHOULD NOT romanticize/idolize/sexualize/kin any of the characters, do not read unless you can handle such topics, and so forth. now i know i should have definitely put the comic down before and not gotten obsessed over it, but i knew damn well enough that it was messed up to romanticize/sexualize any of the characters/things that happened in the book.

there are several scenes in which a character is self harming or harming someone else, and the comments will say shit like “nooo my poor bean” “awww baby don’t do that” or my personal favorite “protect the smol bean.” first of all, the characters are like 16-17, second of all, i cannot even tell you how fucked up it is that people see someone ruining their lives and putting themselves in danger and think it’s “cute” or “anxiety smol bean uwu” THERES LITERALLY A SCENE WHERE SOMEONE IS GETTING STABBED AND PPL ARE DRAWING THIS MF IN A MAID DRESS.

another reason i despise these fans is that they see an abusive relationship and start making ships/kinning them. as someone who has gone through pretty much everything rudy has gone through, i cant tell you how irritating it is to see people shipping him with his abuser or calling him a “cutie patootie masochist boi uwu” cause lemme tell you what-it doesnt feel good to have to put your health in danger and ruin your relationships with others just so you can get off somehow. ITS NOT FUN. the whole point of rudy’s character is to not romanticize someones fucked up mental health.

i could spend hours talking about this group of immature brats, but i’m tired and it’s a school night and i have a test tomorrow. i might add on if i feel like i need to but overall i really hope those immature fans grow up and realize their mistakes like i did, or get the help they need.

[winxys]

idk who bambam even is but doesn’t ideal type mean something diff in korean? it’s icky to me cause he’s a man but i always hear older female idols saying younger female idols are their "ideal types” i’ve never thought that to mean they want to date them more like oh i find their look cool/i like their vibe?? lol i think it’s diff in that context but i’ve always been curious about what “ideal type” means to koreans cause it seems diff than in english like not always romantic/sexual

i have no idea what u r talking abt bc i always see idols describing their ideal types as their ideal partner (at least physically speaking). also taking into consideration that he said 'oh but she's too young it's too dangerous' it's clear he didn't mean it in an innocent way

[flops]

they should put us in charge of conceptualizing these variety shows tbh bc you know i can come up with soso many ideas and concepts for variety shows like the possibilities are endless and even if they wanna have shows with a more competitive edge like we can have that without traumatizing teenagers or literal children!!!!! its not like im 100% against all competition shows, i just haaate the way television manipulates viewers via editing or straight up tempers with the votes (and like b4 anyone thinks that, no, ik this doesnt just apply to korean tv, i mean i got the full scope of tv fakeness from the gntm exposées so its safe to say a lot of television is bullshit and rigged, making me tend more toward variety shows bc those are all sunshine and happiness and theres probably no execs perpetuating drama in those shows. not to say i trust them entirely but i trust them more) anyways sorry i put that whole rant in here my actual proposal for competitive edge could be very simple cover performance competitions, or maybe specifically nugu group competitions in one big show event instead of episodes to give them equal screentime and more or less equal chances in votings AND ALSO i really dont like how there pulling debuted idols out of their groups!! to compete in shows!! sometimes with people YEARS younger than them like ok im sorry idk why im ranting to you abt this bc you already get it but!! my point is we should be the television 👍 you aswell bc youre so right i nthe addition about make up and styling id love to see some of them try fsdgsdg

anon i think we found your true calling 🙏 i looove your ideas so much !!!! also yeah tv fakeness is real and upsetting like in my country all the reality tv shows are scripted to hell and its so miserable.... also watching this seasons boys planet just makes me so mad bc these trainees are so sweet and taleneted but i cant even enjoy the episodes bc they way mnet edits them is just so.... awful and i have seen past seasons of produce 101 and let me tell you they were manipulating the viewers there too but this time its like mnet is not even trying to be subtle about it like the amount of times they have been exposed abt alternating or grabbing out of context what one of the trainees said just to push some kind of narrative they came up with to make the show more 'dramatic' .... so ugly 😑 peaktime pissed me off too bc they told all those guys to practice this new choreo/song for a few hours amd then the mentors humiliated them for not showing a perfect performance when of course a bunch of strangers who havent practiced/performed together before arent gonna show a perfect performance yet 😭 and we wasted hours on watching this.... god....

anyways sorry for the rant but i get you and more importantly they really should put you in charge as a tv producer 🫵❤️

[changbinsboobs]

do u then think the way the fans treat certain members is down to the younger age demographic of kpop groups? personally half the stuff that goes on in a lot of fandoms is generally childish shtick anyway if u ignore it the groups can be more enjoyable but with social media i do think it hinders the members inability to genuinely find nicer people to connect with among their fan base.

chan is used as a free therapist and search bar

felix is defo overworshipped or put on a pedestal

lee know is sort of given a free pass for the things he has said toeards certain members

idk abt the others as I need to watch more of their stuff but I do think their fan bases behaviour reflects in some way what the members enable the fans to be like without putting them in their place when it first occured. as i said the way their fans act doesnt personally bother me im not that deep in their fan base bc well lowkey kinda dont want to be associated with that sort of unhealthy behaviour towards idols

even chan receives teasing too for being of an older age when he is hardly that much different. i mean seungmin often acts like chan is of an ancient civilization.

Yeah i definitely think it has lots to do with the general age of most kpop stans. I also think it has to do with the kind if people that are so into kpop in general. Now this might hurt some feelings but lets be honest, because of this parasocial relationship that caters so much to the fans - the industry is bound to attract people that aren't very emotionally stable or mentally well. I think the percentage of that is mich much higher in the kpop fandoms than in any other fandom anywhere. And often in life the people that have the least to say are the loudest - meaning even if there are lots and lots of healthy, stable fans - they just do the healthy thing and keep out of the drama while the others fuel into useless toxicity and feed themselves more and more of that. Which creates the illusion that the fandom (or kpop fandoms in general) are filled with immature, toxic individuals - which might not necessarily be the case.

[sunnyapollonjabrigidotter]

Ok.. i cant help but meditate on & wonder how my spiritual journey, somewhat so, more like a roaming through a few religions, influenced me & changed me a lot...

Im from an Orthodox (non-practicant) Xtian family, but the religion never really made sense to me, since i became influenced by the baptist & j.w. way of thinking (esp on the idea of not having icons..). Nowadays im kinda curious on what i missed, still im sure that some/many things wont make sense to me.. but some will do, ig, in a way... (a video ive seen of a priest' wife & Orthodox educator that's Greek-American, made me think that (esp the vids on Phronima)... lol, got the spark & it vanished, cs ive much more to learn on Hellenismos, obviously.. but sth somewhat some(more than id like to be)times sth makes me seriously, or more so, melancolicly when thinking of it... mb its linked to some old memories ... mb linked to the times i used to go to monasteries... or even churchies (yeah, in fact memories do tend to get lovelier w time, if ofc they were not of some traumatic events which you still do remember, or just bad ones..).

One of my lovely memories of going in a church was while in a village i went for the 1st time, & probably last, w some friends... but then we were like some Buddhist monks, more zen, than any dogma... and there were no other ppl in the church, except mb one who entered at some moment, & the service lady & ith some other in service... we entered at a evening kind of church -in english s call that mass? - can i call it slujbă? A thing we call vichernia, by the time of the day its held on, as i said in evening...

I guess the good memories & community ties do help a bit, altho idk moldavians being that religious, esp not younger ones, not of my cycle (tho knew just a few)... but some i know do hold on the traditions, like i know a friend that does light a candle for her father who died many years ago, & does give for his soul/in his memory (we call it pomană, forgot the english term, but will remember to check). But overal, she uses logical reasoning more... on more that is on her soul...

What i liked in the past abt those other two xtian traditions ive been aquinted w through some ppl was that they followed (irronicly for me now, cs yey, im free of that said bad thing/sin mindset - which is def as the hebrew word means 'missing the point' of the religion..) the 2nd commandment, statement rather, of the decalogue... having no idols, & boy, the icons... i mean, it still somewhat perplexes me, i mean now im idolatrious, i pray to Apollo, n id like a close connection w other gods, but im more like meditating on them & what they represent- but still "if u play that game & it has rules, at least play to the rules, no? But well, traditions (of the oldest church, mind it) ... well, worshiping Jesus (& God is 1, but 3 in 1, hmm, curious, why not some hundedreds in one? 😁) is in itself considered idolatry for the ones who dont do it (jews, muslims, unitarian xtians like j.w.)

& later on fell in love w another -but now ig more w some ppl, & their somewhat openness, i sure didnt lie when i say, they know how to be fishers of men (but some/many wont change their religion cs they dont need or want/used w the old, n now i know its fine as long as it serves them.. n that after many months after i fell in love agn w the Baptist church, tho had many limitations, which weirdly now, i was more than willing to accept then... ah glad that my social fears kept me away of going to there in real life.. & have a bit way longer journey... (ill surely 'run' from strict dogmas as fast as i can from now on/stay away from it..) Ah & then there was another one, 7th day Adventist, there i liked their care & how they actually go by all the Bible (except the jewish traditions that were abolished at the cross, n why they'd keep them, they're not jews anws)... after which i cameback to my jewish understanding of things (that i did understand ofc..)

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Anws in the end i could say this are a few reasons for me to get interested in dogma psychology or how's that called...

Agh so much to tell, my text is a porridge!

Ah, on the fact why they do venerate icons, well, more like the saints in them, but anws, (& weird, didnt Paul or what other apostle (+ an angel) say like.. dont bow to him, WHILE HE WAS ALIVE??!! - but anws, i got this answer in a message, from another friend, from Romania. Basicly they said: it comes from a period in the OT times, noted there, ith it was while in the dessert... they were bowing at a REPRESENTATION OF GOD... sth w a depiction of cheruvims if i dont mistake, - ith the Ark of the Convenant? That which was stolen few times by the enemy & they're let by God cs the faith of Israelites was shrinking haaard xD... & that is the reason i remember, if i understood it well...

Yet another who said in an answer to a post, icons are not just pieces of art, no idolatry items, just dk what... & sent a pdf to prove it, from which i understood exactly nothing...

Yep, so interesting... & im somewhat still drawn to these like a fly to some sh*t...

Edit: ok, checked

Slujbă is mass (idk why to call it so if there was not a mass of ppl, but def a mass of religious songs, some weight it had...)

& pomană is alms

& ofc ones religion & believes are some deeply personal things, so i couldnt know of the believes of others esp if i didnt ask nor spend that much time w them to know of those... but on one of my mother's older friend i do remember... - how i could forget when she used to tell me on things related, & gave me a book with akatists, could i?? - i read from it just once or twice.. omy, at a time i thought seriously to read, but just cs i was going through some sort of treatments 4 mb treat my burnt disease (i was wearing a t-shirt that ith wasnt mine that was previously soaked in ogyasma, nice :D, & was ofc deeply influenced by the situation & by the person who gifted me that blue hardcovered book.. hm, wondering where i put it...

Anws, felt like studying more on hellenismos buy know its in plans to go somewhere today so...

Oh.. the dawn...

Hi Apollo 😊

Have a Good Sunday Everyone, & A Good Everyday ^^

[letmeoutofthebasementt]

what i find interesting abt ateez is they are neither of an immature age range not like the other groups debuting currently but theyre not middle aged either so maybe their interest in an older age partner comes from that bc other idols tend to usually say either their age or younger depending on it from other tarot readings.

obvi it can change over time but its just interesting bc even the youngest member seem to dislike being babied and called a maknae jongho defo seems older or wants to be older than his age group (i relate to him a lot) whereas hongjoong seems younger in his appearance but he is second oldest, hwa seems most like his actual age, san again i thought he was older than a 99liner maybe not if he was smaller physically, yeosang again i thought he was a bit older and wooyoung just acts younger sometimes with his members on camera but maybe off camera he is bit more mature than what he shows, mingi with his deep voice and height i honestly thought he was like 26 or smth. ateez just have different vibe to them than that of other groups their age idk why yet they keep intruiging me with their varied styles and sounds or their sort of dgaf way of doing it.

i still wish there were some older groups tho like nothing wrong with what btob were doing and i enjoyed watching kingdom too cause these groups dont seem to get the chance to mix and match the members or to change the song up and really do something creative and different.

I agree with you so much. Ateez definitely are a group that don’t really seem their ages and that’s not entirely a bad thing or a good thing. And yeah, I enjoy kingdom for that reason too.

I honestly wish there were older groups, but at the same time, I suppose I get WHY there aren’t many. Younger groups are more marketable, and companies don’t want to take that risk, and they can just wait for the idols to age and have them cultivate their craft for years rather than throwing them in already on the older side. But hopefully there’ll be older groups soon

[outsidereveries]

i think the digitalisation of entertainment has ruined the simple enjoyment of entertainment for me cause theres almost too much of it now

do you think kpop overall will ever change its direction? i dont and never have really cared for tiktok challenges so its less appealling to those who dont partake in these choreographies of kpop groups. tbh I dont particularly know exactly what I like about kpop these days bc its debuting minors so much that im like ehhh its another pretty and young group so what? most often in that case i can just like them for their songs so it doesnt particularly bother me as such yet i feel like kpop still missing something or its been crazy with debuting recently yet groups are neither standing out too much or the members are quite similar to one another or its abt the images and concepts of groups rather than the songs themselves

do you ever think its taken it too far sometimes? like its never heard of less is more and some groups simply have too many members for me to fully care deeply abt each one is quite ridiculous. idk the only way i knew of kpop is through youtube so if we didnt have youtube rn i never wouldve heard abt kpop as they only seem to aim for america

so rather than other using platforms i dont even care if idols dating or no so idfk what exactly interests me much these days cause it seems that kpop is the main music rn and theres not much else that i particularly like abt music anymore so i kind fo have to like something so i dont die of boredom itself yet there isnt much for my age group to follow bc we already had our music phase

i feel too old to be liking whats current but not young enough to care that deeply for every trend or every internet fad there is. its weird to say but i often feel like i shouldve been from an older generation due to the amount of digitalisation of most media and entertainment being geared towards those who prefer online media yet theres nothing else to genuinely like outside of the internet bc its always seems to be centred around it come what may that or music and mvs are so flashy and fancy compared to what i had when i was these idols ages

even the fact that my age would be considered too old to debut in kpop is what is mind boggling to me but then id have to force myself to fit group concepts and whatever else even if they werent my taste so i probs would avoid doing kpop unless it had been from an older generation then id like to have seen more comparison bc there isnt much to compare from older kpop vs now where there is much more

i also think when older idols have said they had more rest time due to lack of internet or social media in general, i think many younger groups could benefit from more rest time yet the speed in which they are doing all these online extra things for their fans and even then they still can get negative backlash due to their fans toxic behaviour so it like they cant really win bc these groups grow up online nowadays but everyone need the internet and so much is done via a computer system so no one can truly escape needing social media either so even if their fans complain idols do too much why are they not more grateful towards what idols do for them?

esp since theres much more idols could be doing instead of being online or trying to go viral for every small detail they ever upload

these idols should thank their lucky stars with how much tool they now have and things like smartphones and whatnot or idfk instagram and other shit like that cause we never had those as kids and in a way i wish we never needed such devices cause again i dont care even if idols get into "scandals" it doesnt phase me bc its mainly that the internet overreact to such minor wrongdoings that often arent even wrong to begin with so thats an other thing i dont care for bc it always seem to want reactions from people or their fans hold it against the idols and make the idols suffer from the backlash that they receive due to people having too many means of expressing a thought or opinion online

i also think trends coming back again it doesnt surprise me anymore, like aespas cd player didnt surprise me so i didnt particularly care for it either, we had those, same for the way tech companies tried to modernise the flip phones that we also had it just aint truly wowing me rn whether it be their merch or even a few songs recently i think bc theres so much of it and its all only really accessible via our screens again maybe if kpop had been known from like before the 90s i mightve taken more of an interest but im like ehhh whatever

whats an even weirder thought is by the time these very young idols get married the internet is not only going tk descend into chaos but i will be long gone from this screen obsessed society, thank god

another thing i find useless to me is pop up shops seem so useless to me bc a) im either in the wrong country for them, im in the countryside thus its quite a trek to ghe nearest one and b) i just dont need to collect merch anymore even for western group i rather just like them for their songs these days than anything else

i think thats the only way to really like a group without getting overly attached to its members that and age gaps as well i find watching younger groups both give me fomo and existential crisis cause i never got to do anything cool like what they have and all the opportunities these groups are given is so so different and generally it all tends to be quite overly fancy and flashy but at the same time i dont know if i care enough tbh im just quite very bored of a lot of entertainment mainly bc its in such short formats tiktok and youtube shorts reels whatever tf theyre called again it only is going to get so much of my attention before i get sorely bored of it bc its not ever going to always be in person and its not something i would need anymore not like the good ole days of an internetless societh when we had cars that had cd players in them and you could generally find a use for some of the tech we had but nowadays it just seems like its load of nonsense geared towards needing our reactions or attachments in unhealthy mannerisms or behaviours that could be quite toxic for both the idols and their fans

if we needed albums then we all should still have cd player somewhere so albums dont go to waste or so they dont collect dust but no one going to be carrying around cd after cd due to smartphones so we dont particularly need a cd player if we can already access the songs on youtube and so on

even streaming ruin so many songs cause then it only matters if songs are getting the most views not whether they are nice songs or not or if they have good vocals or not non of that rlly matters anymore as per le sserras coachella performance it clearly doesnt matter if they are or arent actually talented cause so many groups just aim to go viral online

honetly i dont care how fucked up previous generations were id gladly take a time machine and go back to a non screen based society where entertainment seemed to be more lively and freer than what we have today where its so structured snd formatted mainly only for internet trends

sorry for my long ramble just wanted to get my thoughts out somehow about the way kpop has been recently it just seems much more toxic esp online, i kind of just have to like groups from afar bc i dont want to partake in it yet i also have to find something interesting enough to like and it only seems to be found on social media these days :/

sorry for responding only now;

to be honest, i agree that the entertaiment stuff being avaiable (basically almost) everywhere lost the spark of the entertaiment itself. because of it i really doubt the k-pop industry will be back like we used to know the entertaiment the industry has given to us so far, and this applies to all industires in my honest opinion. the social medias are definitely the main reason why the entertainment is overfilled in any genre possible (i am typing generally), like you said, the tiktok videos (challenges included)! i've never been interested in the content that involve promoting their song or anything else that will benefit the idol/s. this might be due to the fact i've never been obssessed stan to the extent i'll buy my ult group's merchandise (and reading what other stans've been doing, not only that..).

i also agree with your opinion related to the fact more underage trainees (boys, girls, doesn't matter) are debuting. i've always been casual listener of the genre, to be honest and even i've had some phases where i've been watching more content of some groups but that was it, you know?

the industry though has always been overfilled with groups and it's not from recently, most of them in the earlier generations (from 2nd onwards as far as i know) didn't work out either because of the majority of the companies were small or the groups didn't worked out. the paradox here is us, non-korean fans (mainly americans and europeans) give chance to more of the groups while koreans are picky, at least that's the impression i have.

related to the recent groups being the same, YES, YES, YES, I'M RELIEVED I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS SEEN IT! personally, from the 4th generation onwards i've sensed the transition from copying other groups' in one way or another to being TOO similar (and I am not saying that this is only about one specific group, I am typing it collectively). this might be due to BTS and BLACKPINK's popularity worldwide for which I am not suprised, to be honest.

the whole industry, not only k-pop, is taking too far with brainwashing us in one way or another through simple stuff (for example what are the friendship between member a and member b). okay, let's say we should have a position on an event x and y (and etc.) but have the majority of us (overall) looked into the alternative medias, the real life, the news? if you believe only the one side, have you ever seen what the other one looks like? nowadays it looks really favoritised for the most of the topics (sorry for switching the topic for a bit) and if you want to change the world and bring awareness, start with your local issues ffs (not cursing to you)! okay, i understand the underage fans who will bring awareness for events that are very important and impactful and i agree that sns for once can be actually useful but DO THE SAME FOR YOUR HOME PLACE, EYE TO EYE, or creating your own brand with an purpose that can change many people's lives! the issue here is that the influencers should be accepted LITERALLY, to have their own mindset, to think independently and to let their fanbase be aware of things they care about! almost all of them (i am including all famous people here in this group because more or less they're influencing us) are basically promoting themselves and the majority of their interests basically make me feel "is that it? your hobbies being too different from what's the reality surrounding you?" like, i shouldn't care at all about it but ALMOST ALL OF US ARE LIKE THAT, it makes me feel INSANE! i've learned about the genre through youtube/psy becoming viral too but the brainwashing stuff didn't become thanks to his song! maybe i've been realising everything just now but it had started in the beginning of the whole entertaiment industry, the k-pop isn't at fault for it, they just hopped on what should be done according to the americans and western europeans!

i also feel old to follow what's trendy nowadays so i changed my actual interests because if i still follow the k-pop often i'll become one of the many people, you know? the time and the generations have changed without a doubt and for some things it shouldn't happen like that, for that i am sad. (this includes the things you said, if i get more deep into the pointless stuff the k-pop industry have become it'll be just too long)

basically, i can relate with you. there are more things to do than following random famous people that will be more worth it in the end :)

[hirokiyuu]

thinking abt yuujins fam

current ages assume yuujin is 17 (ie the age at which they wound up in twst at the v start)

papa

i dont have a name for this guy yet

he/him, 50s i think

has some sort of job that keeps him away from the house 90% of the time. i dont THINK he works overseas but he either a) works in tokyo living in his own apt bc the cost of a shitty leopalace is less than the commute time to their place in kanagawa or b) might be like. a train driver? was the other one i was thinking of????? lmao. either way he's only at the actual family home like one weekend every few months. its always a big deal when hes home

loves his wife+kids but desperately overworked. would like to be home more often but doesnt have the money at any local jobs to stay near them. gaman attitude to life

only child i think

hikari (mama)

she/her, 50s as well but a little younger than papa

office worker. one of those horribly overworked kinds. probably works in yokohama and has to commute like two hours a day. gone by the time most of hte kids wake up, home late enough she doesnt see them either.

loves her kids a lot but overindulgent. spoils all of them but also relies a little too much on yuujin (guy who is like :) i like cooking and helping mama! as a kid. not realizing he is signing himself up for The Horrors) does understand its not normal but yuujin doesnt complain so she doesnt do anything and also kind of cant given that she is again, horrendously overworked

wanted a lot of kids her whole life. adores them all. wishes she could have more time to tkae care of them but as we all know, The Cost of Living In Japan

yuujin goes here. 17, he/him (eventually they/them), if u need me to say moer than you have not been following my blog

mitsuki

she/her, 15

first year of high school

Extremely self-centered. well aware her ability to get out of hte house w/o having to rely on their parents ever releis a Lot on her being self-sufficient and is trying to play into her own strengths. also just hates being home so she's out doing Overachiever Things a lot but also going to karaoke and making friends and spending as little time at home as possible

will stay up to get allowance from mom, who should not be giving it to her but does bc she loves all her kids a bit too much

mutsumi

she/her, 13

yuujin's best friend. lmao.

chubby otaku. got bullied a lot in grades 5/6, situation got somewhat better in middle school but still doesnt really have any friends besides yuujin

shy + meek, doesn't know how to talk to people. wants to help yuujin more around the house but having so little self confidence means she needs a Lot of handholding and ends up creating more work for him so hes usually just like. go sit down and then tell me abt w/e manga youre into rn

only one that knows yuujins gay, a secret she guards w/her life

ruito

he/him, 11

sixth grader. loooooves yuujin more than anyone in existence! this is Not a Good Thing

sporty, thoughtless, jealous. wants yuujins time but yuujin has no time to give, which manifests in him being mad that mutsumi is the clear favorite and trying to bother yuujin when yuujin is Doing Other Things.

the next ones are more tenuous. i was thinking of yuujin as eldest of seven which i think means One of these needs to be a set of twins but idk which one and what would be most fun. i have runa + the problem child more set in terms of personality but the last kid is like....... so ambiguous theyre just floating midair to me u kno

runa

she/her, 9 or 10?

fourth grader. loves idols and wants to be one

does Not have the money to be an idol fan but through the power of begging and having an overindulgent mama has a semi-decent collection of merch. this drives yuujin insane

less problem causing than some of the other sibs but still causing problems. u kno how it is

youngest child

he/him so far, 5?

first grader. Terrible

bitey. wants to Go. immense handful. cause of every single one of yuujins headaches. constantly trying to run out of the house into traffic, thinks its funny when yuujin has to chase after him. probably in trouble for behavioral problems at school All the Time

ambiguous other child

moody type?

identical twin. probalby will develop a complex abt this in several years time (if youngest's twin) or has already started to (if runa's)

a ltitle bit forgotten given how many strong personalities are ni the fam. will occasionally lock themself up in their room if neglected tho which Causes Probelms and yet givs them attention which thereby reinforces the behavior lol

anyways. thoughts. i have them

[babieken]

this is gonna be messy

I definitely don't think I'm the only one who feels this way, but... idk maybe im just stubborn and refuse to simply move on.

but... does anyone else just not feel the same about kpop. like as a whole concept?

after the whole ta*il thing and the groupchat thing, seeing the scale of the pure misogyny in korean society, I simply cannot see any idol the same way. and I don't even think it's an extreme reaction. we literally had the bear vs man debate like 2 months ago. it may not be all men, but its almost ALWAYS men so u have to suspect them ALL until proven otherwise.

and the worst part is, the whole charm of kpop and idols was that they were meant to feel more real and be interactive with fans (parasocial relationship). they were meant to give us the illusion that we know them as real people and not fictional 2d characters. but turns out being real ppl also comes with being really shitty ppl sometimes too.

what's frustrating is that kpop was a very... low effort hobby (especially if u were like me, a casual content-consumer and not the type of stan that spends money on kpop or cares about streams and shit). the content is pretty consistent and all you really need is a semi stable internet connection. whereas tv shows and books take years to renew for a new season/new book. sports have seasons. etc. u get the point (hopefully). and i'd say the fandom experience in kpop is also better than like movies/books/tv shows bc 1) after a certain point all the content is fanmade and 2) there are way too many debates when the content is totally fictional.

so, yeah I'm mad that I physically and mentally cannot enjoy kpop anymore. I literally look at any of my ex-faves and I feel absolutely nothing. if anything i feel empty and sad. in the sense that I don't miss THEM; I miss the way they used to make me feel. I miss the joy. the serotonin I used to get just from seeing them smile or some shit. and it's gone.

HENCE, I definitely do think that I've changed and my perception of korean media and korean celebrities has changed so me feeling very different about Wonho since his release may not be entirely on him.

However...

I just cannot get over how different he looks. I was literally looking at his older photos ( and i don't mean like OLD OLD. like... 2022 old.) next to his new ones and my brain simply cannot comprehend that its the same person. one of them is the wonho I fell in love with, and the one is a guy that vaguely resembles wonho in a very pale and plasticy way.

I was talking to my friend about this last night and the conclusion we came to for the reason he looks so unsettling to us is that he looks... too young. Like we've all seen the joking posts abt how he's gotten younger but like... it's not a joke. he literally looks 17 in a very artificial way. I mentioned this before but he looks like he has a permenant Snow app filter on.

and It's so sad bc he was always so big on body positivity and slef-acceptance, but to go around and change his appearance so drastically? and like... yeah korea's weird beauty standards bla bla but why would he as a 31 year old man want to look 17? I swear even the way he poses and holds himself is different. the vibes are not the same. you'll see it if u put old and new pics side by side.

Idk I'm hoping I get used to this or feel this less strongly once we see him do music and mvs and just do content. like maybe if I see him acts the same way he used to it won't feel so jarring, but as of rn... I barely reccognize him anymore and i hate that feeling.

I have a whole ass rant about kpop with a focus on wonho but power is out and my laptop is on lifesupport (charger) full time now and i refuse to type a whole essay on my phone but im EXPLODINGGGGG

[autismsubway-remade]

waitok. rottmnt headcanons GO.

donnie

autism + ocd (hes just like me for realsies)

trans/nb, bisexual (he/they/it prns)

hes YOUNGER THAN LEO (by 5 minutes. he figured it out w science stuff idk)

likes baking bc its like chemistry but you can eat ur experiments it w/out dying (usually)

stress baker

knows asl and a little bit of japanese (from splinter)

back/posture issues (worse after the kraang bc of shell damage)

chronic back pain...bones of an 80 yr old

mikey

adhd

agender + aroace (uses any pronouns but mostly he/she. none gender left boy is how he describes it)

has a deep interest in psychology and would pursue a career as a therapist if it wasnt for the whole. turtle thing

looks up to leo and thinks hes sooo cool until she turns like 12 and realizes oh hes kinda lame actually. still his idol though bc hes funny

besties w sunita ^_^ bc i said so. new sister acquired

likes watching raph knit

chronic pain after the kraang, as well as tremors

leo

adhd + autism

needs glasses like donnie but thinks they make him look like a nerd so he never wears them..hed rather be blind (until he eventually gets contacts that is)

is actually a nerd, just in denial

trans + gay (he/him)

the WORST flirter ever. so bad at it. absolutely abysmal. he gets zero bitches

is afraid of cold, dark spaces after the whole Kraang Fiasco

saw gram gram in the prison dimension for a bit b4 being rescued <3

knows the most languages (english, asl, spanish, japanese)

likes boxing

cried for an hour when casey jr accidentally called him dad

raph

anxiety + ocd

trans + biromantic asexual (he/they)

loves knitting <3 he makes his brothers and april new sweaters every year

stress knitter. it helps him calm down. after the kraang incident he knit so much that he ended up w 3 piles of scarves, blankets, sweaters and other various items. april donated some bc there were just So Many

watches donnie bake a lot and vehemently denies eating the raw dough (even when donnie catches him)

sometimes sees gram gram in his dreams

rly good at dancing actually

sleeps w a mountain of teddy bears. cries if he accidentally knocks one off the bed

april

adhd + anxiety

nb lesbian (she/they)

TWO GIRLFRIENDS (cassandra + sunita)

has a cat named mona lisa :] shes a calico and frequently hides in aprils backpack to sneak into the lair. donnies her second fav

has Eldest Sister Syndrome

literally the only hamato who actually knows how to take care of herself. frequently reminds her brothers to do that as well

HUGE gossip. w donnie specifically. she'll come over after work and shit talk customers/shitty co workers and he'll just listen and occasionally suggest manslaughter

lied abt being 18 to get a crane license </3

helps the brothers w their post kraang issues

cassandra

adhd

trans lesbian (she/her)

casey jrs biological mom despite saying she found him in the trash

named him after the greatest warrior she knows. herself

raphs bestie! he scruffs her like a cat when she gets too violent.

theyre vigilante buds! shes commited murder before

bit so many kraang zombies. claimed they tasted like bubblegum (they did not)

slightly feral, maybe rabid

actually scarily intelligent, she's just. a little insane

cried when she met casey jr. shes so proud of him

casey jr

So Much Trauma. All Of It. anxiety + ocd + autism

trans + questioning (no time for teen romance in the apocalypse, he/him)

once he gets more comfy w the turtles and family he stops w the sensei or master and starts calling them uncles ^_^ (leo is dad, casey + april + sunita r mom, draxum + splinter are grandpa and big mama is nana)

so many parental figures, watched them all die

the worst fashion sense known to man. its so bad its embarassing

very smart bc he was taught by future donnie, ended up just going to college immediately despite being like, ~15/16

very proud of his stubble :]

loves hockey! plays it w his moms

showers everyday once he figures out what showers actually are

cant sleep alone, if he wakes up alone he freaks out rly bad

good at cooking! not amazing, but good! was mostly joking about eating rats (thinks its funny)

[heoniebebe]

i'm.. actually shocked i found another group to stan ohno

[neo-shitty]

toffee!

hehe glad i could make you laugh, oooh that sounds awesome! yeah id love to be tagged it sounds great :)

YES the differences are so fucking weird. like, they do know they're the same age right? i feel like its just an exagguration of how much the persons role in the group matters, like we see chan being held up as such a mature, old leader while jungkook who is literally the same age, is still babied etc. like enha hyung line is basically the same age (if a bit younger) as chenle and jisung but somehow the rules are different?? as you point out, still legal but still bizarre. hehe yeah, i mean where else are we going to rant? quora lol. mmm, hopefully more people can just write less smut abt people who are barely adults

ah, no prob it didnt take long. yeah i think thats right (i keep forgetting you know my url lol) mmhmm :( i think if that happened irl there would be some major trauma going on. knock wood it never happens to you or me lol (/hj)

hehe same! oooh glad Redemption For Cheese was realised! yess we cant rllycomplain that theyve written/produced too much good music lol. yeah, ive dragged him into being a stay so *dusts hands off* mission accomplished. mmm yeah, they tend to have a certain vibe but tbh it couldve worked if they were any other group but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ahh ur one step ahead of me on the stages of listening to ssick i think, still not convinced but thats okay! hehe, it had to be said. yesss the itch in the back of my brain is very satisfied by sorry i love you, felixs vocals deserve to be appreciated! (side note i feel like hes trying to sing more like his speaking voice, sorta husky, but tbh i wouldnt be mad if he sang like in glow, his sweet honey vocals made my life lol. but i think ive heard him say he doesnt like singing like that cos it makes his normal voice less husky, so what can you do)

> YES SOMEONE SAID IT. seungmin rap KING, he sped thru that rap like it was nothing, he deserves more rap lines. i do like how they gave minho some melodic rap lines this comeback, my guy deserved to show off those skills that made him not be eliminated (flashbacks to stay collectively wanting to murder jyp) and we already know changbin can sing, my man murdered masked singer. hyunjin can obviously sing as can jisung and felix, and i want to hear chan rap more! i feel like he started as part of 3racha (as a rap unit not producing) and then just became a vocalist (which im fine with, but it could be nice to hear him flex his rapping skills) and was partially replaced by hyunjin. anywayyy

back to album talk. lmaooo sad music to twerk to PERFECTLY describes silent cry. yes secret secret is and will always be, a masterpiece. hehe glad i could make you laugh :) i just felt like they have similar vibes. putting off skz stuff bc of not having time to cry IS the kpop stan life summarised. oh my beloved track, red lights. ahh thats okay, we can have different opinions, but by god the lyrics are *chefs kiss*. *banging on table* TWISTED AU TWISTED AU TWISTED AU. yess id love to see ur take on it! sdfghjkl it would have been glorious

no no! not stupid, just able to predict my brainwaves. ooooh thats so cool! makes me want to go there (wherever there is lol) yeah the waves are pretty good here, but none of my familys a surfer, so we dont rlly enjoy the full potential lol. YES moving on to gone away, it is indeed a heartwrenching track, but the vocals and the bloody key change? makes me want to brave being sad just to listen to it. mmm yeah, good point :( i feel like ive just gotten used to overthinking so much so that it doesnt matter what mood im in, ill do it anyway, so might as well just do what i feel like doing anyway.

yeah i think ur right! it is quite comforting knowing that all the tracks will get the love they deserve. i feel like also people assume kpop is just one genre which is utter bs. there are so many different vibes and feels and songs, i couldnt get into kpop (of which i thought only the bright cheerful present day bts stuff existed smh) until i heard gods menu so... idk where i was going with this but yeah. :)

YES FUCK YG, theyre literally on the brink of being kicked out of the big three and they are holding their salvation hostage without letting them do ANYTHING. idek what thought process goes thru their minds but arghhh its so infuriating. yess lisa's cb will be awesome but ot4 is the gold standard here.

hehe, glad u could get to this point. no no! u dont sound like a cult member at all lol yeah, i loooove some of their songs but the whole 23 members thing is getting to me. thats prob a common problem with nctzens but what can i say? im a simple girl with a limit to how many korean boys i can give my money to. atm im just trying to get into ateez and finish memorising enhypen's faces. also kard is kinda sucking me into their fandom atm, as well as eric name lol. ah what can you do? ooh thats good!

hehe i love it too! its exactly like online penpals, that was rlly well put. aww ty! hmm im okay, recovering from a bad case of rsv so thats fun. im doing okay mentally, starting therapy soon (after having to convince my mother that its not just smth i can brush off). physically i wont go into, basically i should be doing stretches to help but they dont completely fix it so my lazy ass doesnt do them, plus i got told recently im going to be stuck with this condition for the rest of my life so thats fun! ah, before you type smth dw abt me ill be fine. the weather atm is cloudy but warm, its been raining on and off today which is good for the garden. uhh i just finished reading sunburnt veils and im in the middle of prom theory which is rlly good. ummm ive got a concert tonight? that i may or may not be able to sing in (bc of the whole rsv thingo) and uhhhh idk. my dog is cute? im drinking tea rn? ive got a school dance coming up?

wbu? hows ur day going, how are you? whats the weather like on ur end? done anything interesting lately? found smth that makes you rlly happy? just any random thing youve been dying to tell someone?

no no! dont apologise, i love these exchanges. i think im happy to continue them for a long time :) on the other hand, if you get tired of them, feel free to just not answer at any time. goodness gracious this was a long ask haha hope it isnt too annoying

<3 w.a. 🐺

sorry it took me a bit to reply, i was fixing my theme ;n;

yeah, i figured it was because of the roles too. my friends and i still get taken aback when 3rd gen idols are the same age as 4th gen ones. in my head it doesn't add up sometimes. PLS THE RANT AT QUORA SKJDK tbh tho it's just going to be normalized as the years pass? esp that the boys are growing older and the amount of explicit fics will just increase. i might have to start blocking tags.

i had to look up the previous ask to remember what we were talking about xd i hope the events in champagne problems never happens to anyone. realistically, it probably happens a lot. damn i really won't wish that pain on anyone. dragging your brother into being a stay i whEEZED JFKSA additional noeasy music enthusiast o.o and ALL I CAN SAY WITH YOU GUSHING ABT FELIX IS AHA WHIPPEEEED OML can't blame you tho, i also want to hear felix sing more in other shades (if that makes sense HAHA) i really hope they'll do the role exchange in the next comeback :( or like in the near future bc i know they can do it :( the day i hear seungmin rapping it i will respectfully pass away. minho was given more lines this comeback thank fUCK i could rmb my irl being vocal abt her frustration. i don't get why minho barely has center time/lines in title tracks??? like the line distribution in the past eras just made me ???? if seventeen can balance lines with 13 members why cant a group of 8 do the same? moving on. i haven't watched the stray kids show simply bc i don't want to cry HAJS but i've seen clips. imagine if skz debuted without minho and felix?!?!? i rmb another irl catching bias feels towards changbin bc of the masked singer only to find out that the man's a rapper. i love how skz's vocals were highlighted this comeback :c there were a lot of mellow tracks! i find it cute when chan sings/raps bc it gets kinda obvious that he's a foreigner? the accent (im not even sure if it's the accent) it just shows. "putting off skz stuff bc of not having time to cry IS the kpop stan life summarised." CORRECT.

abt the twisted au o.O i'll inquire my irl if she wants to write it or not. if she doesn't want to, i'll do it. i miss writing twisted aus <3___<3 and i also miss going to the beach with my friends :' ) but it's starting to get cold here and i don't think i'll be able to enjoy the beach as much as i would if i went beaching in the summer. so maybe next summer? gone away really has an sm-ballad vibe. the thing about skz being a self-producing group, their songs don't sound like typical jype songs? and i just appreciate that bc in all honesty im not a fan of jyp groups at all. PLS the overthinking. i wish i could mute overthinking.

anyone who assumes kpop is just one genre obv hasn't listened to a single track. if kpop was just one genre why do i like some tracks more than the others??? oh you've only recently become a kpop stan? tbh im not a fan of the bright songs of bts either. i liked their older ones *chefs kiss* really matched high school vibes. yg has good artists and they're just wasting the talent ~.~ that strategy they have will get tiring eventually. people will stop waiting on blackpink and move on to newer more active groups ://

HAHAHAH yeah the 23 members is pretty overwhelming! it was the reason i didn't bother stanning before quarantine started. i don't regret stanning tho, met my ult bias in that group <3___<3 i don't really purchase albums unless i like the tracks xd ohhh getting into ateez just in time for the comeback! let me know what you think about them! i was fond of them at some point but grew out of it. good luck with memorizing enhypen! it took me a while to distinguish to people there XD i haven't checked out kard yet but chan plays their songs during lives and they're sexc hype music me likey *u*

i had to look up rsv im sorry. i'm glad you're recovering! please rest more and don't stress yourself out. bro i wish i could go to therapy too bc i have weird issues i can't justify and i need a professional to tell me what's the reason behind it. stuck with what condition btw? what happened? i'm sorry in case i just forgot. yesterday was a bit rainy for me too :(( it's not the type of rainy that makes me anxious so B) oh concert! good luck and i hope you'll be able to sing but i also don't think it's best for you rn :c what's your dog's breed? and yes i just finished drinking tea too. AAAAA i miss school dances :(( the last one i was supposed to have was cancelled bc of covid.

i was less productive today and i'm teetering between being mentally stable and becoming a hermit again. i'm anxious with a lot of things atm so like : D not the best state. today it was a bit sunny but not hot hot which was nice. i changed my theme today bc i couldn't wait for sept. 1st. and no i haven't found anything that makes me happy HAHAHA shit like that's hard to identify. don't have anything to say too, i'm just thinking about why i'm procrastinating too much atm T_T and i'm listening to this rap song atm and one of the rappers sounded like han.

it isn't annoying! i enjoy the long exchanges but i do admit it takes me awhile to type down a reply. so if i get more busy, it'll prolly take a bit longer for me to reply.

[nyuwings]

Lol good that took my 5ever to write, I'm so slow ✋😔

Yeah Loona's music is so nice. I do find myself every so often going down the Loona songs only rabbit hole for like a few days.

Yes I did watch iland but not when it was airing. I found out about ENHYPEN 20 days before their debut. Why do I remember this? Cause when I was looking up their info I saw Jake's 18th bday was in 5 days and that really surprised me and it just stuck in my head. Anyway, me and my sister decided to learn more about them idk what came over me since like I said I never cared about kpop idols, but we decided we were going to watch iland. After the first episode it was really late but we both knew we were hooked so we kept watching. (Maybe is was all fate that I was supposed to find out about ENHYPEN. I was going to look something up on Google and when I open a new window on my phone it recommends me articals at the bottom and the first one was something along the lines of, "all you need to know about big hit's new boy group, ENHYPEN")

I knew it was a survival show so I told myself don't get attached to anyone that isn't the enha boys...🤡 Yeah that didn't happen. Yeah I do feel so protective of all of them. I had gathered some conceptions about them since I read their kpop profiles before watching iland and most of them were good except for Sunoo 🧍🏼‍♀️ before you come at me with the pitchfork let me explain. This was during the time when the enha members were filling out each other's profiles to they were all kinda goofing each other. So on Sunoo's profile it just made him sound so self-centered and selfish, it was pre-debut so I didn't have much info to go off of (not @ all the times the word selfie was in his profile). He just seemed like the kind of person I would never want to be friends with. I was still somewhat intrigued cause he was a pretty soft boy (looks that deceived my pre conceived notion) But while watching iland it was completely different vibe.

He was just so... Everything 🥺 out of all the members he was the first to capture my heart (then Riki Jake and Heeseung) he made me think wow he is so amazing, I want to be someone like him. I look up to him a lot despite him being younger than me. I was wrong, I would absolutely love to be his friend. Sunoo is like the Changmin of my bias list, the secret member lol. Sunshine vitamin has a very special place in my heart and I wish him happiness always :')

Yeah all the members are so talented and skillful I've been waiting to go over all the cb content that has come out so far with my sister so I can theorize about it. Anyway, sorry, you ask me such simple question and then I write whole ass essays. I could really blab about the people and things I love for hours 😭

Me reading this:

Ajxjdj ur so cute I absolutely love seeing people gush abt things they love, it’s my favorite, the way you describe them is so lovely and sweet my heart goes <3333

I believe it that u and enha were fate, I always think “you find a group right when you need them” so, I’m glad they could be there for you! And that’s so fun you watched iland with your sister, I watched with mine and we FaceTimed screaming abt the finale hehe

Yeah it was definitely hard to not get attached, I cried for Daniel, and everyone tbh but I told myself I’d just support them when they debuted :’) I’m glad your view on sunoo changed!! I don’t blame you for like, assuming things before you knew him, I think we all do that for idols we don’t know well right? Anyway I can feel your love for him and it’s so heartwarming to read ahxj little ball of sunshine

I’d love to hear your cb theories 😎

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Fantasy friend here! My day went alright, I got a little writing done and watched some music videos ☺️ how about you?

I'd definitely adopt you as my younger sibling (wait how old are you? If you're older than me that would complicate things a bit lol), you seem like a really fun and sweet person 💕 I guess the thing of being an older sibling is accepting that you have an influence on your younger siblings' lives and trying to act accordingly? I'm still working on that tbh, I sometimes have trouble keeping myself responsible when it comes to being an example 😔 it can be tough but if you're doing your best then I think things will turn out fine!

Both of my sibs who are interested in kpop will listen to music from other groups besides the ones they're most into, but the one who introduced us to kpop only really follows Seventeen and sometimes MX - I'm hoping that if I get the other one into SF9 then our combined enthusiasm will convert them 😂

I've listened to RPM, Knights of the Sun, 9loryUS, and Mamma Mia all the way through so far! I've listened to all the title tracks a lot of course, and I know the main b-sides from a couple of their other albums plus some scattered other songs. I'm working my way through their discography slowly but surely haha

It seems like everyone has a soft spot for Youngbin... honestly I can't imagine seeing him and *not* immediately going That's My Baby!!!! Chani too, he's so cute but also really charismatic when he feels like it - they're all just so great sdhjgsgjfhdsh

Ah I get what you mean with regards to the energy of the album! Personally I think if an album was 100 percent hype I might explode after listening to it, I want at least one chill song to break it up a little 😂 if I feel like only listening to energetic songs I put on my hype playlist but I need to be in the mood for that, usually I like when there are various types of songs on an album. That's a personal preference thing though 😌

What's your favorite concept SF9 have done? Are there any you would like to see them try?

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sounds like a nice day! what writing were you working on? is it a personal project or for school/work? my day was okay. i've been a little stressed lately but my friends are helping me through it, and honestly this anon event + the comeback teasers have been the highlight of my week 😅

i'm 24 (96 line 😁😁)! even if you can't be my older sibling you seem like you'd be a wonderful sibling to have 🥰

true true, but no one can be perfect all the time and that's fine, what matters is acknowledging our weaknesses and the effort we put towards bettering ourselves. that's something im kinda really trying to work on these days. striving for perfection is unrealistic but instead aiming to be even just the tiniest bit better makes it a lot less stressful

haha i hope your plan works! good luck! 😁😁

oooh if you want any suggestions i say listen to breaking sensation next, i think that's one of my other faves. ooh or first collection! 🥰 but if course there's no rush, listen at your own pace ! i personally need to listen to most if not all of a groups discography before i consider myself a stan?

oh is it noticeable? 😂😂 i can't deny it, youngbin has a special place in my heart 🥰 as they all do of course ~ and yes! agree abt chani he can be very charismatic (which i guess he would need to be as an idol 😂😅) and i just love his vibes tbh i think he'd be cool to hang out with lol

FDSGDHF OH NO we don't want you to explode!! 💀💀💀 ok that makes sense and i get that, it'd be nice to have a balance of hype & chill songs. i feel like it's harder with mini albums bc it's less songs so the change in energy is more obvious? (except rpm. perfection) idk if im making sense 😭😭 but a full album like first collection is nice bc it has chill songs, cheery/upbeat ones and your hype songs too ! but yeah everything comes down to personal preference~

im so bad at choosing faves lol i don't think im picky with concepts like i'll take what i get 😂 there's no specific concept i really want to see from them,, but actually yeah id love to have another fresh/bright comeback from them! what about you?