#idgaf about mistagging

[ashpkat]

i was thinking earlier (which isn’t a good thing) about the series and here’s my thought: how popular do you think the magisterium series would be if calron had been canon?

the magisterium series came from two (semi) well known authors that are worth hundred of thousands — maybe millions — of dollars, and observing stuff from other VERY popular fandoms like percy jackson and seeing how feral they go over canon LGBT characters in POPULAR media i just had to think. these lgbtq+ characters aren’t even main characters— well, yes they are main characters but they aren’t THE main character— but these characters like nico are practically worshipped purely because they are lgbtq+ .

and so i began to spiral: how feral would the gays have gone over a canon lgbtq+ main main character? cc and hb could have MARKETED IT. not to say i condone it, but they could’ve capitalized the lgbtq+’s community want for representation and they very well could’ve grown a fan base much larger than what they had. instead, they chose a straight ship over a fan favorite (sorry callmara shippers, i love you, but it isn’t very popular) and pushed the magisterium series low onto their priorities and gave it the BARE minimum because it wasn’t getting nearly as much money or attention as their own more popular series.

(i will say this, the magisterium was never extremely popular from the get-go and it only declined further and further because hb and cc more than likely completely gave up on the idea of it being as popular as folk of air or shadowhunters after TCG dropped. however, and i’m reiterating this, by marketing/ writing the new books to incorporate lgbtq+ main characters into the story it would’ve multiplied whoever was reading their books by 10x purely due to the fact of good representation and more than likely could still have been semi relevant today. but maybe im being dramatic)

here’s the last thing ill add: the fandom now includes three active people and a shoelace. hate to say it, but compared to cassandra clare and holly blacks other works, it wasn’t successful at all. i don’t want a sequel series or a prequel series or even CLOSURE at this point, what i want is something that’s no longer possible or obtainable. i want a redo.

[olderthannetfic]

I reported a fic on AO3 for the first time the other day, having been on the site for around a decade. The author had tagged it as the most popular m/f ship in the fandom, full relationship tag, smut tag, characters tags - and only these tags. When I clicked into it, it was actually a fic where these characters talked to each other about how “disgusting” they would find it to be together, and surprise, it was partly because it was for the most popular m/m ship in the fandom instead. And then the author took it a step further by outright saying that they hate m/f ship - the one they exclusively tagged for - and insulting m/f shippers with various rude names.

Like ship whatever you want, idgaf, but don’t purposely mistag a stupid little fic as an excuse to insult a rival ship in their own damn tag. It’s just so unnecessary. This particular ship is my comfort ship, the one I read when I’ve had a bad day or haven’t been doing so great mentally, and idk it just felt really shitty to go in expecting a cute little fic only to be met with another ship entirely and targeted insults about my own ship and myself as a person.

Long story short, it shouldn’t be too much to expect that people not be absolute assholes. It takes zero effort to not do shit like this.

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[mihai-florescu]

Don't be shy. spill the body neutrality claim... I'm feeling like a little hater today I need something to hate on

Sure

No normal person thinks like this^ also incoming rant: a good chunk of body neutrality posts online are not body neutrality at all, theyre body positivity mistagged. And there is certainly a place for body positivity, but i for one want to detangle the perception of my personal worth from my looks altogether. Ideally, while focusing on myself and not other people because idgaf about others' appearances, which is the true point of body neutrality.

(i do recognize that body neutrality is an ideal that will never be attainable on a global scale, and that different people have different needs, and for some those needs involve validation. But my god this take was so bad faith and misinterpreting body neutrality, at this point it's so misinterpreted that im questioning whether *i* got the wrong idea? Should it not just be staying in your lane appreciating bodies not for their aesthetic qualities but for the things they provide to sustain you? I just dont think a person who actually believes in body neutrality would say what op is implying, it just feels really disconnected from the actual concept. It's more telling of op's mindset than anything else.)

I do personally think people who hate on body neutrality when they dont even really get it are inferior and that has nothing to do with their body and everything to do with their mind^_^ im gonna be a hater based on my own morals and values instead of the low hanging fruit that is appearances. Peace and love<3

[my-funky-little-cowboy]

This. So much of the stuff in this fandom is mistagged or not tagged, please. Tag shit that is nsft. Like idgaf what you reblog or what you write, but if I CAN'T blacklist it or block it because it's not tagged that is super shitty.

Also, it's understandable that you want to get your content out there, but can you not tag characters that have nothing to do with your post? It makes it hard for people who actually go to the tags when they have to slog through a shitload of unrelated content on the tag they went to.

Nobody is stopping you from writing your reader fics/smut/pwp, all we want is to be able to avoid it without having to memorize your vague ass nsft tag to get around the filters.

Can we please be better about tagging? Yes it takes time, but like...if you're gonna bother to tag one or two things, can you make sure they are umbrella tags at least?

Also, in case y'all didn't know. Blacklisting and blocking don't work on mobile. So even if we blacklist/block and use mobile that is pointless.

I feel like a judgemental prude when I say this, but I'm honestly a little weirded out by how constantly horny the rdr2 fandom is. I enjoy the occasional smutty romance as much as the next gal, but sometimes I'd just rather discuss the actual story and characters instead of this constant stream of Arthur, etc banging someone's self-insert.

Nah, you’re not alone in that by any means, Nonny.  Lest I be accused of prudery, let me cheerfully state emphatically: there’s nothing wrong with smut, sex, sexual thoughts, sexual desires, etc.  There’s nothing wrong in fantasizing.However, sex is not the only thing.  Sex positivity is being able to say yes or no to sex without shame, and I think we forget the back half of that equation often.  There’s a difference between a polite “no thanks, I’m not feeling it” and prudery/sex-shaming.I don’t mind writing sex sometimes–particularly as Sadie and Arthur and their degree of emotional intimacy make it easy.  I don’t mind reading it sometimes.  But I’d also like to say “No thanks”, and be allowed to focus on other things.  Being real, folks, it sometimes gets exhausting to feel like there’s little room or interest in your own fandom to actually seriously talk about and be excited about the game.  So I do wish there was less PWP in the fandom and more discussion, meta, char appreciation in a non-sexual way, etc., because damn, this is an incredibly rich game with so much we could talk about rather than a constant heavy diet of often OOC (or as discussed, problematically racist) fantasies about the male chars.  Just off the top of my head, some thoughts: there’s daring storytelling, there’s implied supernatural elements, there are numerous female characters with at least one in a major role, there are POC, there’s a historical setting of a fast-changing world that’s rich in detail, there’s the struggle with trauma and mental illness, there’s the representation psychological tactics and abuse of an increasingly violent cult, there are two case studies in narcissistic sociopathy, there’s the corruption and quasi-feudal conditions in Mexico and the Caribbean, there’s the issue of imperialism, there’s ballooning economic inequality and the oppression of the poor, there’s the tension of various intersecting conflicts, there’s a male protagonist whose emerging true personality is a pretty firm clapback against toxic masculinity, there’s the challenges of 19th century medicine, there’s the relationship between law and justice, there’s the continuing emergence of a more public-facing “feminism for all women”. I’d love to focus on some of those topics, or others.