#i'm just so.......... about all these theories about the ending
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mymarifae · 1 day ago
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dess is the knight. here's why
so, i keep seeing people arguing and being unsure who/what the knight is. lots of people saying that it's carol, or that it's actually none of the holidays and is just connected to them somehow. meanwhile i'm 99.99999999% certain it is in fact DESS. and you know what bumped my certainty levels up from like 75% to that 99.99999999%? gerson.
the dark world was able to use his dust to revive him for a time. he was perfectly himself, and he was in this sort of... limbo state of being a darkner and a lightner. but his funeral rites were followed correctly, minus actually burying his urn. so let's ask ourselves: what happens when the funeral rites aren't followed correctly?
what if they CAN'T be? what if the death is so sudden and horrible and her dust is lost? ... what if a fraction of her dust attaches itself to an object that does not correctly resonate with her soul? what if that's all that you have left of her? this incongruent amalgamation of her-but-not-her? do you throw the object away? no, that's your daughter. your childhood best friend. you're going to cling to the little bit you still have of her and try to bring the rest of her back. let the world end if it must; she's more important.
knight carol immediately falls apart for me for two big reasons, and one is simply that this is not what a lightner would look like in the dark world.
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this is a lost, twisted being. this is the other side of the scale gerson was on, of near-simultaneously being a lightner and a darkner.
the other reason i can't buy into knight carol is that the knight was already waiting for susie and kris in the dark world while carol was at home grounding noelle. can the woman teleport? exist in two places at once? no. it's just not her.
anyway, plotholes in knight carol theory aside, there are SO many visual clues that the knight is at least a fraction of dess. if you weren't paying close attention - and good chance you weren't because you had bullets to dodge - you might have interpreted the knight's sword as just a sword. and then later, in noelle's house, you run into carol's katana and it's like, woah wait a SWORD?! that is intentional misdirection. the knight's sword is not a Sword. it's a bat.
here i have a handy and very painstakingly detailed chart just for you
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real life + in-game katana vs the knight's "sword" vs real life bats. note the bottom of the knight's sword jutting out in one direction and how the real life black bat does the same thing.
katanas are also not wielded with one hand. the correct posture is with two
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now, look how the knight swings her "sword":
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if you manage to "win" the fight in chapter three, susie attacks the knight head-on, and chips the sword
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and, oh, huh would you look at that-
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interesting coincidence. also, the knight turns into a baseball-looking ball multiple times
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one more thing. this stained glass window design in the church. it's dess standing below the titan she now shares a body silhouette with
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(pardon the shaky outlines i refuse to turn on my tablet right now but hopefully that helps you see what i'm talking about if you couldn't at first)
and this isn't even getting into how dess's song is incorporated into the knight's battle theme. we finally met our girl, guys. it's her
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skylargoesbark · 23 hours ago
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1/ Which category of alterhumanity do you belong to?: Otherkin, therian, otherhearted, plural
2/ What/who is/are your type(s)? (if you have any): Wolf, comb jelly, black cat, turtle frog, vampire, angel, music (concept), shapeshifter otherhearted and I'm too lazy to list fictionkins
3/ Do you experience shifts? If so, can you tell us your most common shifts and your strangest cameo shift (if you've ever had a cameo shift)?: I had a Shinx cameo shift after playing Pokemon. I usually get faint phantom shifts, though I haven't had one in a bit
4/ How do you experience your alterhumanity in everyday life?: Dysphoria, unfortunately. And being plural obviously affects it a lot with memory and identity issues and such
5/ What do you think of the community?: Pretty solid. Just a bit too discourse-focused.
6/ What are the things that make you most comfortable and euphoric in your alterhumanity?: Forgetting what I really look like
7/ Are you experiencing species dysphoria?: Unfortunately
8/ What advice would you like to say to a young alterhuman who has just awakened?: Read conflicting sources on controversial topics. You deserve to form your own opinion, especially on your own identity. Don't let anyone force you to believe something.
9/ Do you have/want to have gears?: Yes. I need a tail now.
10/ Do you know/have any theories about the origin of your alterhumanity? If so, tell us! (all beliefs are legitimate): Very shortened version for being physically an angel is falling from Heaven, "hibernating" for an unknown amount of time, and somehow physically age regressed and ended up in a human's womb. How? Who knows.
If you are an alter/nonhuman, reblog and answer these questions!
(don't be afraid to write a lot, do what you want ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯)
1/ Which category of alterhumanity do you belong to?
2/ What/who is/are your type(s)? (if you have any)
3/ Do you experience shifts? If so, can you tell us your most common shifts and your strangest cameo shift (if you've ever had a cameo shift)?
4/ How do you experience your alterhumanity in everyday life?
5/ What do you think of the community?
6/ What are the things that make you most comfortable and euphoric in your alterhumanity?
7/ Are you experiencing species dysphoria?
8/ What advice would you like to say to a young alterhuman who has just awakened?
9/ Do you have/want to have gears?
10/ Do you know/have any theories about the origin of your alterhumanity? If so, tell us! (all beliefs are legitimate)
11/ Tag someone/a creature to answer these questions!ㅤᵕ̈
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honeypiehotchner · 2 days ago
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Couldn't Make It Any Harder (Hotch x Fem!Reader) -- one shot
Anxious girlies rise!!! I'm just fantasizing about someone staying and not being an asshole and in my mind Hotch would stay and wouldn't be an asshole, so this was born (also yes I listened to Sabrina Carpenter's song by the same title while I wrote this!)
Warnings: hurt/comfort, angst all over the place, very anxious reader, Hotch being the kindest and most understanding man alive, est. relationship, fluff!, maybe autistic!reader if you squint
WC: 3.2k
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Dating Aaron Hotchner is never short of any surprises. 
With how hectic his work schedule can be, plans are often impromptu and random text messages before phone calls asking if you’re free for anything: dinner, a drink, a movie, a walk.
Dating him is also never short of innocent questions. 
These, you didn’t expect, but maybe you should’ve — or would’ve, if you truly understood what his job is. He explained it to you, but it’s hard for you to wrap your head around the fact that he’s part of a team of people so good at reading the behavior of other people that they can catch criminals based on it alone. 
His job almost seemed fake, too good to be true — and so did he. 
Especially when, after a month of dating, neither of you had stayed the night with one another, and he wasn’t pressing the subject when he’d suggest it and you’d politely tell him no.
You almost thought it meant he didn’t like you at all and was only being nice by going on dates with you, even though he didn’t seem like that kind of guy at all. Still, you can never be too careful. 
And when he made reservations for your six-month anniversary at a fancy restaurant downtown, and told you when he’d pick you up, and even showed up a few minutes early but told you to take your time, you thought you were going insane. There was no way it was true, that he was true. 
But he was. And is. 
Except, your relationships have a shelf life. Or rather, you have a shelf life. 
None of your previous relationships have made it this far, none of them too thrilled about the fact that you’re not well-experienced sexually, or the fact that you want to actually wait until you feel secure in a relationship before taking that step. Of course, none of them said that was the reason they were ending things, but you knew. You could tell. 
After having it happen to you multiple times, you can’t let yourself relax. Any time that you feel like you’re maybe going to get comfortable, some anxious thought rears its ugly head and sets you right back where you were.
You try your hardest to enjoy the relationship with Aaron, and you do. Knowing his work schedule varies allows you to keep your distance, making it easier to keep telling yourself that you’re keeping your guard up. You’re keeping yourself protected for when the inevitable other shoe drops to the ground like a bomb.
So, it’s no surprise that as your relationship approaches the eight-month mark, and Aaron asks if you’d like to come over to his place for dinner on a random weeknight after a couple weeks of not seeing each other, you think the worst. 
“How do I look?” you ask your best friend over FaceTime as you spin in a circle. “Hot enough to be broken up with?”
“You are not getting broken up with!” she cries over the phone. “And yes, hot, as always.”
“Thanks,” you sigh, strategically not commenting on her theory that you’ll still have a boyfriend by the end of tonight. 
“He’s not going to break up with you,” she says again, softer this time. “He’s different.”
“I always think they’re different, that’s the problem,” you mutter. “He just took a lot longer than I thought he would.” You don’t need to spell it out for your best friend to know that this one will hurt the worst out of them all.
Because this time, you love him.
“You don’t know that he’s going to break up with you.”
“You know that gut feeling I always had before the others?” you say, looking at her solemnly. “I have it right now.”
She frowns. You almost think she’s going to argue with you, but she doesn’t. Because she knows. You had the same gut feeling the last five times. Why would it be wrong on the sixth? 
“I’m sorry,” she finally says. 
“It’s okay,” you shrug, picking up your purse and lifting your phone. You glance at the clock. “I guess I should go.”
He offered to pick you up, but you said you’d drive yourself. You figure you’d rather do your future self a favor and save yourself from the awkward post-breakup drive home. 
“Call me after,” she says with another sad smile. “We can cry if you need to.”
“Thank you.”
“And hey, if he does break up with you, I can come up this weekend and key his car for you.”
“Babe. He works for the FBI.”
“So?”
You laugh as you roll your eyes. “Goodbye. I’ll call you later.”
You drive to Aaron’s in complete silence. You don’t even intend to, you’re just on autopilot.
You’re trying not to shut down emotionally, but you can already feel it happening. It’s inevitable when you feel like you’re about to be hurt. The shield goes up, the walls raise, and nothing gets past them.
With any luck, you won’t even cry when he breaks up with you. You don’t always, which gets you labeled as a cold hearted bitch, but that doesn’t bother you. 
You put your brave face on when you pull into his driveway, only it quickly morphs into shock when Aaron comes out the front door in dark jeans and a black button down. He opens your car door for you with an easy, genuine smile, looking as handsome and happy to see you as ever. 
“You didn’t have to do that,” you chuckle nervously, stepping out and letting him shut your car door.
“I wanted to,” he shrugs, leaning in for a kiss. 
You accept it, trying not to seem so stiff, but the slight furrow of his eyebrows tells you that he felt it. He doesn’t say anything about it though. 
“Come on,” he murmurs, one hand on the small of your back as he walks you inside. “I’ve never made this for dinner before, so we might end up with pizza.”
“All good,” you laugh, setting your purse in its usual spot on the table by the door. 
The conversation is fine, if a little awkward, as you sit in his kitchen so he can keep an eye on dinner in the oven. He offers wine and you decline, just taking some water. He keeps furrowing his eyebrows just a little, his tell for when he’s reading your behavior but doesn’t quite know what to make of it yet.
You sip your water and avoid eye contact while he shuffles around the kitchen, finishing up dinner. 
He washes his hands, leaning back against the sink as he dries his hands with a towel. He watches you with a soft expression.
“Is everything okay?” he finally asks.
You hate when they do this. Because if you say you’ve had a rough day, they won’t break up with you because they don’t want to “make it worse”. But if you say you’ve had a good day, they will go through with the breakup, because they’d rather ruin your good mood instead of make the bad mood worse. 
“Yep,” you say with a tiny smile. “Just watching you.”
He returns the smile, but it’s not at all easy like before. 
Fuck. Should you just rip the band-aid off and ask? 
You nearly do, but then he says dinner should be ready, and you can’t. You almost expect to be eating right here at the stools on his counter, or for him to break the news and you leave without eating, but he waves you through to the dining room. 
You follow after him, a little confused, stopping dead in your tracks in the doorway when you see the sight before you. 
A white table cloth over his little square table, candles in the middle, a small bouquet of your favorite flowers set aside to make room for the dish he made, plates and cutlery and a wine glass already laid out on either side. 
“What is this?” you ask, your heart hammering in your chest and threatening to escape up your throat. 
“Our favorite restaurant was fully booked,” he explains with an awkward laugh. “So I tried to recreate one we always order, and thought I’d try to recreate the table too. It’s a little…wonky, but it’s close enough I think.”
You blink. “Why?”
The deep concern returns to his face. “Because I want to.”
“But why?” you ask again, staring at him with wide eyes, like you’re trying to catch him in something.
He comes closer, the worry on his face only growing. “We haven’t been able to have dinner together in a couple weeks because the cases have been packed, so I wanted it to be special.”
“Okay,” you swallow, nodding slowly. He just wanted it to be special. Right. “Okay.”
“Come sit,” he says softly, hands reaching out for you as if he needs to steady you. You kind of need him to. 
After he safely has you tucked into your seat, and he’s brought your water over for you to drink, he sits in the chair beside you. 
“Dinner’s gonna get cold,” you murmur, not wanting to be the subject of his profiling right now. You stare down at the empty plate. 
“I can warm it back up,” he says, taking one of your hands. “Can I ask you a question?”
Skeptical, you nod.
“Why do you always seem so shocked when I do something nice for you?”
Your eyes close as you grimace. Great. Now he thinks you’re ungrateful on top of it all. 
“I don’t mean it in a rude way,” he clarifies, his thumb rubbing back and forth on your hand, soothing you. “I just mean…when you ask why I do these things, like dinner and bring you flowers and open your car door, and I say I’m doing it because I want to… You almost look like you don’t believe me, and today you really look like you don’t believe me.”
“I do believe you,” you rush to say, but now he looks like he doesn’t believe you. “Or maybe I don’t,” you add quietly, looking back down at where your fingers are tangled. “I’m sorry.”
“You don’t need to apologize, honey,” he says, and he sounds so desperate that it makes your heart ache. “I just want to understand you better.”
Your face crumples at that, the emotion too much to keep at bay when he’s being this kind to you and you were thinking he was going to break up with you — and he still could.
“Sorry,” you sniffle, your free hand coming up to cover your mouth as you shake your head. “It’s stupid.”
“It’s not, it’s not stupid,” he says, using both hands to hold yours. “Is it something I did? Or said?”
“No, it’s just—” you cut yourself off, letting out a shaky breath. “I thought you were breaking up with me tonight.”
He stills. And it makes your heart freeze. You caught him. Here it is. You brace for impact. 
“Honey, I— That’s not at all what I was planning on doing tonight. What made you think that I was going to break up with you?”
“You invited me to dinner at your place,” you cry, and when you say it out loud like that, it really doesn’t make any sense. 
“Why would I do that if I was going to break up with you?” 
“You wouldn’t believe the ways I’ve been broken up with,” you let out a laugh, trying to make light of this now very emotional and awkward situation. “I’m sorry, I’m ruining what was supposed to be a very normal, romantic dinner—”
“Listen to me, you are not ruining anything,” he says firmly, still looking up at you with those kind brown eyes. “I just want to understand what’s going on in that brain of yours.”
“Trust me, you don’t want to know.”
“Trust me, I do.”
You stare at him for a moment, wondering when the twist is coming. The moment he says it was all a ruse and he is ending things. The moment you can call his bluff. 
But it never comes. His gaze doesn’t waver, and neither does the care in his eyes. 
“Okay,” you murmur. “But can we talk over dinner or after? It smells really good.”
He laughs at that, the sound warming you from the inside out. His smile is infectious as he nods and says, “Of course we can. We should probably taste this and see if we need to put in a pizza order.”
He moves his plate so he stays sitting right beside you, where he can keep his hand tucked in yours. It feels safe. 
One bite in and you’re amazed at how well he recreated the dish and how good it tastes. You’re too busy devouring the food to even think about explaining your thought process behind tonight anymore.
Except, Aaron does return to the subject, not wanting to let it go just yet, because clearly you have him spooked after saying you thought you were going to be broken up with. 
So, you explain. There was the guy who broke up with you on your birthday. And one who did it a day before Valentine’s Day. And another who decided that mid-six-month-anniversary date was prime time to end things. And then a couple others with bad timing but not the worst. But all had one thing in common. 
“I know we haven’t had sex yet and I guess I’ve just grown to realize I have a shelf life.”
Aaron looks alarmed. “Shelf life?”
“Yeah, like, I tell people I want to wait before I take the step to do anything sexually, and I only have so much time before me being desirable…expires, I guess.”
He blinks. You watch what looks like a thousand emotions cross his face at once and you’re unable to read any of them. “Did someone…say that to you?”
You shake your head. “Not really. Not exactly those words. But I kind of came to the conclusion after the third time it happened. I guess I just expect it now.”
Aaron is quiet for a moment, thumbs rubbing gentle circles on the back of your hand. You’re not sure at all of what he’s going to say. “The last time we had dinner before my work schedule got so crazy these last two weeks…did we move too fast?”
You try to think back to that night. It was dinner and then the two of you came back to Aaron’s for a drink. Nothing crazy because you needed to drive home still. But the two of you did get pretty hot and heavy on the couch.
Come to think of it, you didn’t drink much at all that night, because there was hardly a moment to spare when Aaron’s lips weren’t on yours, or on your neck, or your collarbones.
It didn’t escalate. He offered, you declined, said you wanted to just continue what you were doing, and that was that.
Then, you didn’t see Aaron for two weeks because of his work schedule, which meant phone calls were short and rare and text messages were as good as you could get. And so your mind put pieces together and created a scenario that wasn’t true.
“We didn’t,” you say, genuinely meaning it. “But I guess my brain freaked out because it thought you had finally had enough of hearing me turn you down and that I had finally…expired, I guess.”
He squeezes your hand. “Please don’t ever talk about yourself that way. You don’t have an expiration date. And I don’t care that we haven’t taken that step yet. I am willing to wait as long as you need to—”
“That’s what they always say,” you murmur through a watery smile. “But thanks.”
He frowns. “How can I make you believe me?” he whispers.
“I don’t know,” you reply truthfully, your face crumpling again. Your hand slips from his so you can cover your face, sniffling hard into your palms. “I’m sorry. I know I don’t make it easy.”
“Honey…don’t make what easy?”
“Dating me,” you sob, not knowing if he can even understand you through the tears. “I get it if you— If this is your limit, I get it. I'd understand.” You sniffle again, wiping your face and nose and trying to regain any sort of composure that you can find. 
Aaron looks up at you, and after a moment too long of silence, you almost think he’s actually going to do it, but he doesn’t. He does the opposite.
“I love you,” he says. 
You inhale sharply, wiping under your nose again. “You do?”
He doesn’t move to grab your hands after you’ve taken them away, but he reaches toward you, nodding. “I wanted to say it at our favorite restaurant, but that fell through, so I thought I’d make it special and tell you here instead, but…I had no idea you were feeling like this.”
“I didn’t wanna tell you in case I was right,” you murmur. “I didn’t want to scare you away by being too needy, I guess.”
He smiles gently. “Nothing is going to scare me away,” he assures you, taking your hand again. “Can I ask a favor, though?”
“Yeah?”
“Can you tell me the next time you’re feeling like this?” he asks softly. “I want to be able to help, but I can’t if I don’t know what’s going on. And I hate the thought of you silently suffering with this when I’m right here and I can give you the reassurance you need.”
You nod more now. “I can. I can do that.” You pause. “Hey Aaron?”
“Yes, honey?”
“I love you too,” you reply, feeling a wave of relief come over you after you let it out, knowing he feels the same. It makes fresh tears spring into your eyes all over again. “I’ve felt it for so long and I think it was scaring me because I can’t ever let myself relax into a relationship without worrying that something is going to go wrong—”
He hauls you into his arms without another moment’s hesitation, letting you cry into his shoulder. It’s all the months of worry building up and finally boiling over, and he lets you get it all out.
“I’m so sorry,” you say into his neck, taking in shaky breaths.
“Please don’t apologize, honey,” he replies, rubbing circles on your back. “Thank you for telling me.”
“Thank you for listening,” you say, barely able to get the words out through the emotion in your voice. You take a deep breath, relaxing further into his arms while simultaneously gripping his shirt as hard as you can. This has exhausted you.
“Do you want to move to the couch?” he asks. “We can put on that show we were watching together. I can pour us some wine if that might help you calm down?”
You nod into his neck, not quite wanting to leave this spot just yet. “I’d like that,” you sigh. “Can we stay like this for a minute?”
“Of course,” he whispers, pressing a kiss to your temple. “We can stay as long as you need.”
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lynxgriffin · 3 days ago
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Deltarune Chapter 3 and 4 RANDOM THOUGHTS
Spoilers so it's going under the cut! This is just me gushing about the madness
Geez I have like 50 different things I want to do art for and I can't focus on any of them long enough to start, SOB
Was NOT expecting Susie to find out that Darkners are objects immediately upon starting up the chapter. I'm glad she took it as well as she did, though! Still think this may come up much much harder later.
Holy crap Tenna's designs and animations just hit like a truck LOL. It wasn't until much later that I was like "wait...this guy is not getting recruited to Castle Town, is he. There's no way those sprites will get integrated."
Disappointed we did not get a proper Susiezilla sequence, I wanted that!
All the banter of them sitting around playing Legend of Kris was adorable
Did not expect Lanino-Elnina-Rouxls Kaard DISASTER THROUPLE???
Lancer MY BOY
Geez all of the stuff where Kris was playing their solo adventure was just. SO unsettling.
"You didn't do Snowgrave in chapter 2? Well you're doing it here now lol"
"You were used up" UH OH!!!!
I managed to S-Rank both boards somehow and got to the Shadow Mantle boss but got my ass handed to me; I'll need to go back and try again later.
Totally called Toriel being in the prize capsule from the start
saxophone noise
Me at the end of the Tenna boss battle: Kris Knight is real? Well, not what I would've liked, but I'm sure it'll be--
Me five minutes later: I'M SORRY, WHOMST??????
But no for real the Knight design and demeanor is LEGIT scary, I'm so glad we got a proper really intimidating villain
But yeah absolutely got thrashed by the Knight as well SOB SOB
THAT ENDING THO??? AND THEN THE TRANSITION INTO THE NEXT CHAPTER?
Please give Susie MORE PANCAKES
Absolutely fascinated by the fact that the monster religion is also just. Like. The game legend. The implications
Cannot believe we had friggin Tom and Jerry-ass shenanigans in Noelle's house with the soul including Kris beating the crap out of us with a hockey stick
banging fists on the table SU-SELLE! SU-SELLE! SU-SELLE! SU-SELLE!
Asgore how did you get more awkward every chapter
The whole scene with Carol was just generally so, so DEEPLY UNCOMFORTABLE
Evil and intimidating deer by awesome lesbian couple indeed
Me earlier: Man Carol Holiday is going to get a pretty brutal death in Eldritchrune, I feel a little bad, it's probably going to feel unwarranted--
Me after chapter four: Hell naw this bitch gettin' what she deserves
I gotta say that I REALLY loved the music in this chapter, absolutely outstanding. I might like From Now On even more than Rude Buster
All in all in chapter four was SO cool, loved that we're taking everything seriously now, it felt like a real turning point
OKAY SO turns out THIS KINDA HAPPENED A BIT? But while my initial thought was Gerson being the Knight, I honesty like this better
IDK Gerson was just SO funny as a J.R.R. Tolkien-esque party member and I absolutely appreciated him being a mentor to Kris and especially Susie
Did NOT expect Susie making her own dark fountain before Noelle did!! But oh man all the differences in her version of the world that you can see compared to the usual one...
In any case I love Susie more and more every day if horrible things happen to her I will teleport to Toby Fox's house and push everything breakable off of his shelves
YOUR TAKING TOO LONG
Ralsei I am DEEPLY WORRIED about you my dude
He was looking so ragged this chapter and missed good chunks of Susie's dark world, too
I am extremely anxious about that critical part of the prophecy that we conveniently missed but that Susie saw, my weird kids need to be okay
Also uhhh??? Am I nuts or like? Did my half-human Susie crack theory get more evidence?? I was expecting just a solid debunking but if anything there's just more hints of it???? I'm kind of terrified???? Half-human Susie real????
Seriously I may just finally dive into the nightmare realm of making a theory video for it
HELLO NEO DARK FOUNTAIN ALREADY
HI TITAN ALREADY THAT WAS SICK AS HELL AND ALSO TERRIFYING
Seriously that Titan boss battle was crazy hard; it took me a lot of tries and it was a LONG fight every time
I have no solid thoughts on whether it's Carol Knight or Dess Knight; I'll have to ruminate on it more
It's Raining Here made real...
CANNOT BELIEVE WE ENDED THIS CHAPTER ON FRIGGIN KRIS MISERABLE IN BED WHILE SORIEL DISCO HAPPENS DOWNSTAIRS
Again: I want to draw but have no focus aaljsda
Also I got like two hours of sleep last night because my brain would not stop buzzing lol
Once again THIS GIF REMAINS MY ULTIMATE REACTION TO NEW DELTARUNE BYE:
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rnelodyy · 11 hours ago
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I just figured out what made Spamton and Jevil go insane
SPOILERS FOR CHAPTER 4
It was the Prophecy.
Let's start with Jevil, which mostly turned into talking about Seam, since it's hard to get a coherent word out of Jevil himself.
Talking to King in chapter 4 and picking "Jester" nets you the following dialogue:
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The phrasing here is what I specifically want to point out, because it's framed less like Jevil gave King instructions on how to rise to power, and more like Jevil was PREDICTING King's rise to power.
But like most things Jevil, our bombshells when it comes to him come from Seam.
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This dialogue should be familiar, it's one of the first things we learned about Jevil outside of his bossfight, and our main hint connecting him to Gaster. Him saying things that both did and didn't make sense to me suggests the Prophecy, but that may also be confirmation bias.
But it's THIS dialogue that I really wanted to highlight here.
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Seam's worldview is EXTREMELY nihilistic. While they don't outright discourage you from going on your adventures, they seem amused at the fact that you're even trying at all. On top of this, Seam has a lot of dialogue about stuff they could not reasonably know about, either because it happened nowhere near them, or it hasn't happened yet.
They knows about the super bosses and the Shadow Crystals you can collect from them:
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They know about Mettaton designing Spamton NEO's body:
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They know about the Knight ambushing you at the end of Chapter 3, and how you need the Shadow Mantle to beat it (unless you're a tryhard):
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And they know about the Old Man as well:
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(There's one more piece of dialogue that's relevant here, but I'm going to save that for when I talk about Spamton.)
This is a quality that Seam shares with Jevil, as Jevil neatly predicts Queen's appearance in Chapter 2 if you defeat him with violence:
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All of this combined, to me, implies that the "strange words" Jevil told Seam were, in fact, the Prophecy he got from Gaster. The reason Seam is so nihilistic is because they already know exactly what's going to happen... specifically, the Roaring is coming, and there's nothing they can do to stop it.
There's only one thing that seems to genuinely surprise them: defeating the Knight in Chapter 3.
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...which later prompts this dialogue.
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The fact that we did something Seam, someone who knows the Prophecy, genuinely wasn't expecting, gives them hope. Because that could mean that the Prophecy isn't set in stone, and the Roaring may yet be averted.
Now lets move on to Spamton, because Chapter 3 gave us a LOT more to work with there. Spamton's backstory specifically gave me the idea for this theory, because a lot of things about it start making sense when viewed through this lens.
Spamton was an unsuccessful salesman who dreamed of making it big. One day, he was contacted by someone (Gaster) on the phone, and suddenly all of his businesses skyrocketed, becoming so successful that he got a room in Queen's mansion. However, one day the person who contacted him stopped calling, and his entire life came crashing down around him to the point that he ended up homeless and living in a dumpster.
This didn't make sense to me at first. If Gaster was just giving him business advice, taking that away shouldn't have allowed his empire to collapse overnight. What makes more sense is that Gaster was telling Spamton parts of the Prophecy, specifically the parts on how he was going to make it big. All Spamton had to do is follow Gaster's advice, and he'd become the BIG SHOT he'd always wanted to be.
As a bit of extra proof for this, here's seemingly random bit of dialogue from Seam.
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Someone who knows the Prophecy using it to see the future in order to beat the Addisons specifically? That seems like a pretty obvious hint.
Chapter 3 also tells us more about Spamton's relationship with Tenna. Spamton and Tenna used to be business partners, with Tenna wanting to learn what made Spamton a BIG SHOT in the first place. But then...
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It's implied that this is when Spamton stopped receiving calls. So why exactly did Gaster stop calling?
Because Tenna is in the Prophecy. Specifically, the part about him getting cut down by the Knight (I'd add a screenshot here but I cannot fucking find it, it is in there, trust me).
Gaster was most likely aware that, if Tenna found out about his pre-destined death, he'd try to find a way to prevent it, or at the very least get better at watching his back. So, he called Spamton to say he was cutting him off, and without the Prophecy giving him advice, everything came crashing down around him.
As a result, Spamton is obsessed with finding a way to learn more about the Prophecy, and how to use it to predict the future again. He wants to be big enough to see past the darkness obscuring that knowledge from him.
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As such, he recruits Kris into helping him see past the bounds of reality and find the full Prophecy. That's what [Hyperlink Blocked] is. It's literally a broken hyperlink to the Prophecy.
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But if you do the Weird Route, you're likely going directly against the Prophecy. Things that are specifically pre-ordained do not happen in the Weird Route - most clearly seen with Ralsei's reaction to Susie and Noelle not going on their ferris wheel ride.
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Ralsei has full knowledge of the Prophecy, and is understandably freaking the fuck out when he realizes we have just done something that directly contradicts it.
And what does Spamton have to say about your Weird Route antics?
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We don't need his Prophecy anymore, because we're making our own.
But that does leave a question though. If Spamton was destined to make it big, why did he need Gaster's help? Why did his empire collapse as soon as Gaster stopped helping, if his success was pre-determined? Why did Gaster need to tell Jevil how to get King into power, and to get him to worship the Knight?
Why does Gaster's involvement specifically seem to change the Prophecy?
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Because Gaster is the one writing it.
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multifandom-trysten · 3 days ago
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As an Appalachian and West Virginian, the most important thing in the Hunger Games series is the fact that Lucy Gray is a mystery.
Already, the series is almost completely accurate to Appalachian culture and strays from the harmful "hillbilly" stereotypes presented in modern media. (I could rant on and on about how and why that stereotype came to be, the classist and racist implications behind it, etc.) Particularly, The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes highlights the culture and way of life of Appalachia while placing it in a dystopian fantasy world.
Now, to my point, the mystery of Lucy Gray.
I understand the curiosity behind her completely, even the fan theories about her grave site in Sunrise on the Reaping (which I have yet to read, so no spoilers! I'm waiting on my local library to get a copy, lol.) I am vehemently against any confirmation of Lucy Gray's ending because she is an unsung symbol of resistance and the unyielding, never dying spirit of Appalachia.
In Appalachia, our history has been stolen and our people left intentionally uneducated and exploited. We do not know most of our history, but the culture is still there. With Lucy Gray, she represents the fact that we don't know where our way of life comes from but we are still resilient.
Lucy Gray is a coal miner singing as he gets crushed by a mine shaft and the greed filled companies erase his name to prevent liability. Lucy Gray is a quilt sewed by a MeeMaw, one day your babies and their babies wont remember her name, but that old quilt will still warm them. Lucy Gray is a loving mama who may not be educated herself but will get those babies on a school bus because they have to do better than her. Lucy Gray is a kid fresh out of school, scrubbing their accent from their vocal chords in an effort to sound more educated at their new university.
Lucy Gray has to be a forgotten and erased piece of history because SHE is the Appalachian spirit. She is everything that the United States has exploited and stolen from us and everything Panem stole from 12. Lucy Gray is the spirit of a mountain song, you don't know the artist or even where it came from, but you sing it. Just look at the music and lyrics in the film. "Nothing you can take was ever worth keeping," or You Can't Catch Me Now shows that you can take HER and she'll still slip out of your fingers.
If we know her ending, we know that they finally got their hands on her. Lucy Gray doesn't die, she doesn't live, she's everywhere all at once.
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indiiglow · 12 hours ago
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My thoughts on the Roaring Knight
(they're probably not gonna be very coherent)
First of all, people so confidently pointing at Carol being the Knight are wildin'
It's Dess. But not literally. I think... The Knight was made. Possibly to carry out the prophecy, but the prophecy is at least in part bullshit. I think there is a goal, and how it gets accomplished is less important - therefore making the Knight a tool that can be thrown away if absolute need be. It's about the red soul.
As for proof? Beyond the obvious antlers/summoning a bat that turns into a sword? (Carol uses a katana while the Knight's sword is shaped like a falchion. I doubt this is a pixel restriction issue, it's like that on purpose.) In chapter 4 when the gang is chasing them they act flippant. Childish. Zooming up the stairs while grinning with their hands crossed. Can you picture The Serious Mayor doing that? Or that animalistic, beastly introduction? I can't.
I think they are made from some sort of an essence? Darkness? Of a titan and a part of Dess. I hesitate to throw around any soul ideas because the whole monster soul situation in this game is already so gooddamn weird it warrants a post of it's own. Whether that means Dess herself is somewhere else or.. merged? with it I don't know.
And finally:
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(that was the first thing I got when I interacted with the computer on the same route but not sure if intentional tbh bc I didn't interact with it on the prev one. but helluva coincidence ISN'T IT)
#deltarune#deltarune spoilers#deltarune theories#deltarune weird route#deltarune chapter 3#deltarune chapter 4#the roaring knight#deltarune theory#indi's night talk#as for why the bat changes to a sword. can't stab a baseball bat into the ground can you?#y'know I was So convinced it was Dess and then I got to ch4 and immediately got the dialogue#about the mayor killing that guys briefcase with a katana and I was like waiiitt........#but I'm back to my original impression. see above#sidenote they/it knight my beloved#re: the first part of the post -#it's based on Gaster's dialogue when you lose (not die‚ interestingly) to the knight and especially when you lose on their last attack#that's also why I think the theory that the soul is gonna be shattered that I've seen around is wild like#while I don't think that is exclusively the only way we are connected to the game. it is far too central to it for that to happen#I was originally considering possession theories- like the knight possessing different people. I've also seen the idea of multiple knights#but the more I consider it the more it just doesn't seem right#this is all just on The Knight. what exactly is going on with the people involved with What Happened... fuck if I know#it does sort of remind me of Paper Trail funnily enough (but also makes me a tad worried pls don't fuck up the ending like that comic did)#dksfhsdjghdfgj ANYWAY WHAT#ALSO! not really to prove or disprove anything it but I think there's 100% sense of familiarity between Kris and the Knight#I might be talking outta my ass I don't have solid numbers on this but I swear Kris' attacks didn't do as much damage as they should've#and vice versa the Knight obviously holds back too. y'know that and the kneeling.#(need I even mention the palm circles in all of this? I don't need to mention it...#then again I haven't seen anyone else mention it either *squints angrily*)
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tennesseetrekkie · 2 days ago
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Eliot Spencer is Still a Killer
But not a murderer.
I've been thinking this for a while and I think "The Side Job" basically confirmed it.
Killing and murder are two different things, especially to a man like Eliot. He has his own moral code. He will never take another innocent life. NEVER again. But if they deserve it? Maybe so. (Who he is to decide that is an entirely different matter)
Some examples I can think of to support this theory:
"The Wedding Job": Nate asks if he just killed a guy with an appetizer, he replies with "I don't know, maybe." Doesn't seem to bother him at all (kind of freaked Nate out, though!). Never did get confirmation one way or another.
"The Order 23 Job": He shows up outside of that boy's house dressed in all black with his hair tucked into a hat waiting until the boy is clear... I remember reading that the writers didn't mean for it to look like that but, uh, it did.
"The Future Job": Parker asks if they could kill the "psychic", Eliot tells her "yeah, I mean, I could". No big deal. Sure. Wasn't even like a hesitant "but it could compromise my morals!" more like a "just another Tuesday".
"The Carnival Job": "Nate, if I'm engaged..." "Do your worst." They both know what means.
"The Experimental Job": The CIA interrogator who was torturing veterans did not look very lively at the end. Just saying.
"The King George Job": Eliot straight up asks Nate "if I take out Keller how hard would it be get at Moreau?".
"The Big Bang Job": A big deal is made about the gun scene but right before he picks it up he just causally snaps a guy's neck. He also doesn't object to Nate saying he might have to kill Atherton.
"The Rundown Job": Eliot tells Hardison "you get me to him. I get my hands on him and it's done."
Pretty sure there's a couple other instances I'm forgetting but this is a few.
Of course, this is the exception rather than the rule. Generally he won't kill, it's rarely his first choice. I mean, in that last example the tone he used to tell Hardison "it's done" strongly implied killing but when it came down to it he didn't. I don't think the man is bloodthirsty but he makes the hard call sometimes and doesn't let it bother him. This is not a morality I agree with but it certainly makes the character more interesting. (I always wondered how things would've played out had Sophie not been there with Dubenich. Would he have "saved a friend some trouble"?)
I don't think it's in conflict with him not being the same kind of guy anymore either. He's in control now, he never takes an innocent life and he doesn't kill indiscriminately or for fun or pleasure.
"The Side Job" really sort of confirmed it for me because he didn't outright disagree or discourage Parker from killing someone. He'll support her in it. Even against the rest of the team because none of them would understand or support it.
Whether the rest of team knows about Eliot is unclear. He definitely doesn't go around talking about it. He does what needs done and moves on. But I think Nate did. I don't know if he always approved but I think it was an unspoken understanding between them. I think he trusted Eliot enough to kill the right people and not cross the same line as before. I don't think Hardison, Sophie, Harry, or Breanna knows. They have their own innocent views of who Eliot is and what he's done. Partly because they don't want to think about it. I don't think Parker did at first. After running the crew though I suspect she does now. They have the same unspoken understanding as Eliot and Nate did. Because she gets it. The others don't understand because they're different. He's different. She knows and she gets it.
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murderbot-moodboard · 2 days ago
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And we're back with assorted thoughts on episode 5! (Drafted during my second watchthrough.)
- Arada's already showing good potential in her willingness to immediately start shooting at a potential threat. Yeah, she jumped the gun (haha) a bit, but considering they just had a hostile SecUnit ostensibly trying to mow them down that's understandable. And I'm not sure whether she missed on purpose or on accident, but I don't know if we'll find out (or whether it's important in the end anyway).
- LeeBeeBee over here displaying some (blinks rapidly)... imagination. Maybe she doesn't have any experience with ComfortUnits.
- Ratthi, I'm pretty sure Pin-Lee is not ready to talk about starting a family with you at this time, lol. (Also "Sec Unit" is an objectively terrible name for a child, but I think Ratthi also gets a bit of a pass considering what they've just been through.)
- It's actually pretty cool to watch Pin-Lee and Bharadwaj doing repairs on Murderbot. I like finding out that Bharadwaj can be the steady hands doing delicate work in a crisis. And we get more in-universe glasses rep from her this episode! (I always like to make note of this for future cosplay purposes—as a required-glasses-not-contacts wearer it's very hard to find futuristic scifi shows where glasses are accepted in-universe.)
- Murderbot: "He looks way too into this." Gurathin: *looks maybe slightly determined*
- I love all the data compilation sequences, the visual and audio effects are really cool.
- Also love all the book lines that are preserved pretty close to verbatim in this episode. It's cool how they swapped in Bharadwaj for Volescu's part in this episode (and cool that she's more involved in everything at this point than in the book).
- "Seccy?" 😂
- I think it's interesting how Gurathin looks so vulnerable for a minute after getting not-strangled. (Has he been attacked by a SecUnit before?) He also immediately goes "see?" probably thinking now they'll listen to him about SecUnit since he just almost got strangled, but Mensah immediately goes to talk with SecUnit instead. No wonder he's not happy.
- Murderbot's face when LeeBeeBee kisses it 🤣
- That was kind of a nice moment between Mensah and Gurathin before Murderbot interrupted, lol. (Peepee blocking much?) I suspect Murderbot not only wants to annoy Gurathin but also wants to protect Mensah from what it sees as Gurathin's creepy interest. But based on their interaction, there definitely seems to be undercurrents of something else that Murderbot isn't picking up on.
- To be fair to LeeBeeBee, I thought she was potentially going to be really annoying, but she's only a normal amount of annoying.
- Did we get a subtle pronoun self-correction from Mensah? Cool!
- Aww, Murderbot's first real conversation and it's with Mensah. 🥰 Also they show Mensah being smart and insightful the same way she was in the book!
- Oh shit. Talk about a cliffhanger! Was Murderbot rushing to grab the controls? To protect Mensah? Are they going to have to walk back to the habitat?
And that's the end of the episode! I have some more theories, but I think they veer into spoiler territory for future episodes, so I'm going to leave off here for now. Until later!
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Fuck you thunderbolts headcannons. Cause I have so many and I cannot keep them to myself anymore.
Before we get started, it's important to note that the end cut scene means next to nothing to me. The russo brothers wrote that, so I do not care.
John chews tobacco. Did it for a bit as a kid but quit so he'd be healthy in the army. Once he took the serum and Lemar (Who was a huge influence on John quitting) died he started again because he knew it wouldn't necessarily kill him anymore.
Bucky still smokes on occasion. Not as much as he used to back in the 40s because he's been told how bad it is for him now and also because the taste has changed too much for him.
Yelena actually doesn't like vodka that much, she mainly drinks it because it reminds her of her family.
Alexei can cook in theory. The problem comes in the fact that he can only cook prison food.
Similar story with Bob but instead of prison food it's broke/high food. I'm talking spaghetti noodles with ketchup and hotdogs.
Not all of them are medicated but God they probably should be.
As a group they have a call and response codeword to check how bad they're feeling.
Goes something a little like this.
Call: Light levels?
Bad response: Low
Good response: High
At first, it was just for Bob until Bob used it for someone else, and then it spread to an entire team thing.
Someone has genuinely said something to the effect of "Yeah, but he's our asshole" about John before. Probably Bucky.
Every mission has a situation in which one team member has to reign in another one. At least once, the highest count was 15 times in one mission.
One time, the tower had a group watch of a JFK assassination documentary, and Bucky had to jump in and correct dozens of different mistakes.
Bob is super into Dungeons and Dragons but has never gotten to play. Instead he likes watching/listening to actual play shows.
Whenever someone is looking way too tense Alexei takes them to the training room and helps them punch it out. Via sparing or using left over boxing mits. This works a surprising amount of time
Alexei also has very strong opinions on American boxing.
They have collectively broken. So much furniture. Honestly most of the time it's an accident but still.
John only drinks really really strong coffee, everyone else in the tower puts something in it to offset the taste but it's just like straight jet fuel. This only becomes everyone else's problem because John is always the first person awake enough to make coffee in the morning.
Bob in contrast can't even have the most sugary taste covering coffee because somehow it will still taste bitter to him. No matter whats in it.
Ava is a coffee creamer girly but doesn't add extra sugar. Yelena in contrast doesn't like creamer but does add at least two spoons of sugar to every cup she drinks.
Ava loves pumpkin spice, Bucky also does but not as much and in secret. When Ava found out about this they started going to get coffee just the two of them to gossip.
One time they got lost in the wilderness post mission and while waiting for a pickup were arguing about what they were gonna eat. John pulls out like 10 MRE's. No one knew he had these on him and he claims to always be carrying at least one.
Alpine does live in the tower. Bucky just walks around the tower with Alpine hanging out in his jacket. It took a solid few days for the team to realize that the cat existed.
Alexei is allergic and does not care he will snuggle with the cat anyways.
Ava once got stuck on the couch for two hours with Alpine on her lap before just phasing out underneath them cause she felt guilty about trying to stand up.
Yelena did get a second guinea pig to keep the one she rescued company. Their names are Mak and Cheese.
Mak 100% has superpowers. There's a betting pool on what they are but Mak has not revealed them yet.
Fanny does not live in the tower, and is still staying with Kate Bishop. Yelena just worries she won't have enough time for a more active pet. Because Mak, Cheese and Alpine are all pretty self sufficient.
Ava likes to start games of tag and then phase through multiple walls to get away.
They once had a week long game of tag in which towards the end they were actually on a mission. Game only ended because the person who was 'it' last got injured.
Due to the fact that each of their serums are different the super soldiers are usually guessing what the other ones are like. Non super soldiers think they are the same but they do in fact have minor differences that really only matter to themselves, other super soldiers, and people trying to recreate the serum. The serum seems to be defined by the following things: Strength, durability, speed, agility, stamina, reflexes, and healing factor. (I personally would combine speed, agility and stamina but what do I know) ((Personally heightened senses should also be thrown in the mix but those are whats on the wiki))
As for how the three super soldiers of the Thunderbolts obviously they have all of these categories but: Alexei's serum gives him slightly better durability and healing factor, John's is mostly in speed, agility and stamina, and Bucky's falls more into strength and reflexes. It would be very close in all categories if they somehow were competing but those are the categories I think they would slightly better in. As for senses I think Alexei has the least best and John has the best best. All of them have crazy senses but John is the one who faintly hears heartbeats when standing next to people I fear.
When Clint found out Yelena was living in the old avengers tower he called her to tell her about all the old secret places he and Natasha had. As well as any other secrets that he remembered. Some of them were gone but most of them were still around.
The most popular nickname for John other then just straight up calling him an asshole is "Captain Taco John" or just "Taco John" he thinks Yelena started it but it was actually Alexei.
They've been banned from every axe throwing place on the East Coast. New ones that open on that side of the country get called by competitors warning them in advance.
John and Bob learned that no one else on the team had been to a waffle house before and then demanded they go.
When they finally did go post mission they found out that Bob is banned from most waffle houses in Florida and lower Georgia for reasons he cannot remember.
John is literally the worst liar once you get to know him. Like literally the most obvious tells in the world. No one tells him this though so he still thinks he's a decent liar.
Alexei did sign up to be a mall Santa one time. Yelena ended up being one of the elf helpers.
Yelena and Bucky are tied for most languages spoken on the team, with Ava in third and Bob in last.
Bob is learning how to speak Russian though.
Bucky threatens to shave his head whenever the others are up to crazy shit. Says it'd be faster then having to pull his hair out.
Bucky has a large collection of second hand paperbacks from the bookstore.
The most genuine everyone on the entire team has ever been is when they did secret Santa and everyone actually tried. It wasn't even like a requirement they all independently decided to try.
John talks to Lemar's parents but not his own. I refuse to believe that man had a good relationship with his parents look at him. He's a people pleaser and in the few scenes we get of him in Georgia I believe he doesn't even bring them up let alone go see them.
John has a weekly phone call from Lemar's parents. The others find out when they overhear him talking about them. Though he leaves out a lot of big and scary details as not to worry them. Actual quotes from this phone call "Mama they're all awful awful people." < said with a smile his face and heard through his voice proceeded immediately with "Of course I'm keeping em fed Ma'am they're all so bad at cookin'."
You can pry John Walker with a covered up southern accent from my cold dead hands. That man is from Georgia for petes sake. He tries to keep in understated because people in the military took him less seriously with the accent.
All of the group has a habit of talking with one another's accents which gets so brutal when two of them are Russian, one of them is British, two of them are southern, and the last one is a New Yorker.
Out of all of them the only one who has been able to defuse a bomb is Ava. Yelena is an explosives expert but only at setting them up. This comes up as a problem far more then you would think.
John, Ava, and Yelena are banned from having the remote while watching action movies because they will pause the movie and talk about the weapons/tactics being used for thirty minutes before continuing the movie. Only to do it again 5 minutes later.
Yknow that one episode of Phineas and Ferb where doctor doofinsmirtz is trying desperately to get this doll his daughter wanted when she was a child? Alexei did the same thing. To the point he went off grid for two days and came back just before the team was gonna go looking for him. Showed up covered in blood and bruises holding this pristine little doll out to her.
Yelena treasures that doll. It has special shelf in her bedroom. Though she did tell Alexei that if he ever pulled some shit like that again she'd beat his ass.
They all honestly did not want to get super close to each other at first. But when you live and work together for any significant amount of time you're bound to just start knowing shit about those people that you don't expect to know.
Also every single relationship between all of them was super rocky and unstable for a long time and still kind of are. Lots of things are going unspoken that probably shouldn't be but they're working it out together one thing at a time.
All of them know that the other people on the team are smart but sometimes it's easy to forget just how scarily competent your teammates are when they do weird dumb shit all the time at home.
Bucky is most of the teams emergency contact. Bucky's emergency contact is still Sam.
The first time any of them called the Watchtower home was when Yelena was a little delirious from being injured and it caused the entire rest of the team to freeze for a moment before continuing to get her medical help. After that they all kinda started doing it.
Alexei loves learning new things about pop culture and then trying to tell the others about it like they don't know. This would be more annoying if he wasn't right and most of them they actually did not know about it.
All of them have such wildly inconsistent pain tolerances that they find it hard to tell when one of them is actually injured or not.
Ava is still in contact with Bill Foster who upon hearing about the New Avengers travels to New York to figure out what is going on and if she's ok.
Ava also still has the teddy bear that Bill gave her.
They've given each other the most fucked up parody high school superlatives. John got worst post nightmare reaction, Bucky got most targeted weapon in a fight, Alexei got most likely to be a PR nightmare, Ava got least likely to break something important, Yelena got least likely to derail the mission to fight someone, and Bob got most likely to have the most randomly useful knowledge.
All of them are bad drivers, but the only ones actually authorized to drive are Alexei, Bucky, and John. Yelena always drives like she's in a car chase even when she definitely isn't, Ava never learned how to drive and doesn't want to because she's scared of phasing through the vehicle, and Bob also never learned how to drive properly (he can drive in theory, not as much in practice). As for why the other three are shitty drivers, despite owning a driving business I refuse to believe Alexei knows American driving laws, Bucky is still learning how modern vehicles work (other then motercycles he's got those down), and John drives like every vehicle is a military jeep aka borderline indestructible and very clunky.
The entire team actually hates being called the Avengers. Most of them are hoping Sam wins the copyright case, if not sometimes doing shit to try and help the case. Bucky in particular is trying to separate them from the government.
The relationship between the team and Valentina is very much one of mutual destruction. Both sides have social and physical ammo stashed away for the second the other side turns.
On missions they usually are joking around at least a little bit but the second anyone even might be hurt they all turn into the most serious scary motherfuckers. This also applies to people they work with on occasion, like Kate.
Sometimes the group have complete mind meld moments. Like full on don't even need to say a goddamn word because the other person already knows what you're asking them to do and is on it.
One time they ran into Sam while on a secret mission and he happened to be looking rough at the time. The last two things happened and scared the shit out of him if he's being honest.
One time in an interview someone asked if they would slap one of their teammates for a hundred dollars. Bucky responded that he gets to throw John out of windows for free. Johns only response to this was a shrug.
It's generally agreed upon that Ava is the scariest person on the team. She takes this honor and title very seriously.
Bob is the king of dropping the craziest shit you have ever heard mid conversation and then moving on.
Yelena loves rock climbing, borderline could do it competitively. There's a specific rock climbing gym nearby the tower that she becomes a regular at.
Ava has a label maker but she basically never uses it to organize things. Instead using it to write out short jokes/insults and sticks them to people, walls, doors, and one memorable time the ceiling.
Ava is a Paris Paloma listener. Her favorites are Labour and The Fruits.
One time Bucky used his detached arm like a baseball bat to knock an explosive away from them. The entire rest of the team proceeded to turn to look at him like he was crazy.
Honestly they all own far too many weapons. Like entire stores worth of weapons. They're scattered literally everywhere through the main areas of the tower, their bedrooms, and on their persons. It's mainly an issue because you have no idea if when you open something there's gonna be a fucking knife or a gun in there.
It is considered a big deal(tm) if someone hands you one of their weapons. Even if it's like trading or they just don't like/use it anymore.
John is a competent engineer and could fully fix/reverse the tacoificafion of his shield. For the first few months it a matter of pride on why he doesn't just fix it but after the like third injury because he isn't working with it right they have an intervention and he gets a new one.
There have been multiple arguments that span days at a time over tea. When the topic of any kind of tea comes up John 'what do you mean you've never had sweet tea' Walker and Ava 'Do none of you own a fucking kettle' Starr do have to be separated.
As much as they all work together really well. No one is as ride or die for each other as the 4 from the vault. Do not get it twisted they fight like cats and dogs but they are the only ones allowed to do that with each other.
Bucky is still trying to convince basically the entire team that he did not kill Princess Diana.
All of them collectively truly do not know how to be normal people not a single one of them. It is. Very noticeable.
Bob is one of those guys that has too many hobbies. They worry about him getting bored when he's at the tower alone but really he now just has access to so many things to do so many more hobbies then before so he is keeping his hands busy.
A byproduct of this is that Bob actually gives so many gifts to others. A good percentage of their decor is just stuff Bob has made or found.
He's also trying to get the others into having actual hobbies that aren't things like weapons training and jumping off buildings. It's been semi successful for the most part.
Bob actually isn't all that keen on physical touch, both because he doesn't want to send people into the void and because he just really is not used to it. It takes a while for him to even get used to pats on the back.
All of them have at least been arrested in the states before. They have a bail money fund at this point cause they keep accidentally getting involved in things they should not be involved in.
The reason most people just almost automatically default to calling Bucky Bucky is because he genuinely just looks so awkward and a little uncomfortable when you call him literally anything else. Barnes is ok ish but like. If you call him James he kinda just looks at you until you like feel the need to correct yourself. This is because when he initially started to break through the mind control the first name he'd been called other then the winter soldier in 70 ish years was Bucky.
Physical touch is also a big deal for everyone, mainly cause it has so many different meanings. When Ava touches you its either her reassuring herself that she can be solid or it's checking that the person she's touching is not about to fall apart. When Bucky touches you it's either to reassure the person he's touching that he's there to help or it's him trying to keep them from doing something stupid. When Alexei touches you it's him making sure the person has a pulse by feeling it in whatever limb he's touching or he's trying to get them out of a situation he thinks is bad. Yelena also touches people to feel their pulse, but because of her lack of serum she has to do pulse points, or she's trying to help the person calm down and be reassuring to herself and them. John touches people to thank them without actually thanking them or he's trying to get their attention. Bob doesn't typically initiate touch unless it's to help someone out or to keep track of them and how they're doing.
People like to talk about the codependency between Yelena and Bob and don't get it twisted they are the most guilty and the peak of it but also that entire team is codependent as fuck. They barely function without each other, if one person were to die every one else would die in the process of getting revenge and or afterwards. They all have no sense of chill about each other no matter how much they all like to pretend otherwise.
Alexei actually likes to sketch and draw. He designed all of his tattoos and has no idea that this is something he has in common with the original Captain America.
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premamelody · 3 days ago
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WAIT THEORY TIME
WHAT IF THE PROPHECY IS TO CREATE A NEW LIGHT WORLD
a light world where things are different. where Dess is still here. maybe that's why Carol is doing all of this.
In Chapter 4 there's a theme of loss, coping with loss. Susie tries to bring Gerson back but you can only experience the same Dark World once. That's it. There's no second try or second take.
The world is created by desire, but sometimes what we want is not what we need. Even if Susie wanted the Gerson to come back probably not just to unlock the door but maybe as guidance as to what to do next. but is that what she needs? She needs to put trust in herself for once. You'll never know how to be able to move on from tragedy if the tragedy just repairs itself. Some tragedies, some terrible things of course should've never happened and serve no purpose but to inflict pain. But the natural flow of life, death, isn't avoidable. It isn't based on manmade decisions, it's just how life is.
As it would be nice for Gerson to return and helpful, maybe that's not what Susie needs? That's not what Kris needs. Of course the main reason was to break the lock, but instead of completely trying to think it out, Susie had hoped Gerson had the answer. She didn't want to do the long way of searching the documents and stuff, just a single straightforward answer. Unfortunately there isn't always a straightforward answer.
It's fitting that this is also the chapter where pretty much "the jig is up". we learn that we are the ones trapped. we are deliberately being forced as apart of Kris. we learn for some reason Carol is working with Kris. We learn Carol is likely the Roaring Knight. Even if it's very heavily implied, there's still another candidate that has been missing this entire time so no definite answer. Very likely Carol, could be someone else.
The point I'm trying to make is that this Chapter is all about grief. It's throughout the entire part. Not only that but with the last chapter, there's an even bigger theme.
Letting go.
Maybe the goal of the prophecy is creating a New Light World. Maybe, with the idea Carol is the knight, the mayor is trying to bring back her eldest daughter, wherever she is. Maybe Carol thinks that with this new Light World based in her desire, everyone will become whole again. Dess would still be here and the Holidays and Dreemurs could be a practical unit again, a family tied together like the good ol' days.
However I don't think we or Carol will get what we want. I don't think the world after the prophecy will be disaster free.
I think things will get worse before they get better. That one prophecy pane, one of the first ones. The earth dividing, the other one, darkness from the titans eyes.
I think the world will collapse. It will get better, but at the end it will all fall apart. It will sort of, reset. It will change and it will be better. However you have to let go of the past, and this may mean that our heroes will only get to see the worst of it all. They won't be able to see it get better. They'll only see destruction, not the brighter side of the world. Death. The world will die and be reborn, and they'll only see its fall.
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mijlen · 2 days ago
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In the wake of Chapter 4, allow me to theorize about The Deltarune Prophecy beneath a spoiler cut.
I'm seeing a metric ton of takes about the final prophecy (the one Susie destroys) which make no sense to me THEMATICALLY. "Susie dies," "Ralsei dies," "all three of them die." it doesn't add up to me why Susie would be (again - THEMATICALLY) portrayed reacting so violently to that news.
Again, the game implies that she reacted VIOLENTLY. I fully believe she is prone to outbursts when faced with difficult emotions, but I think that, were she reacting to a prophecy that involved herself or one of her friends meeting a tragic fate, she would react differently. She would demand answers.
So why the violent reaction? What was our Susie, who showed such fundamental and astonishingly NATURAL growth over the last three chapters, really trying to destroy here? How would it fit the theme of her arc?
I think I know, but let me tell you how I got there. See, what I couldn't stop turning over in my head after Chapter 4 was The Girl. I don't think Susie is The Girl. The stance, the silhouette, the weapon of choice... something doesn't feel right. I think that's Noelle. I think that's a hooded Noelle.
I think Noelle might actually be the true third hero.
We know "banish the Angel's heaven" is the end of the TL:DR prophecy, and Noelle is strongly implied to be the angel at this point. If Noelle's fate is to make a grand sacrifice in true JRPG fashion, that would make sense. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if we're in full "playing with JRPG tropes" territory here, and if "initial party member who is swayed to the other side" doesn't also become an actual thing either, with Susie. Susie, who is feeling unneeded, lesser-than, and who is fast approaching self-actualization. I specifically say "other side" rather than "bad guys," too, because I think the two sides of this story are more nuanced than we ever thought. If Kris is found to be working with the Knight, well... that might make anyone switch sides, especially if they are trying their best to be a TRUE hero.
So... I'm pretty sure the final prophecy portrayed Noelle's death. Noelle's sacrifice. Banishing the Angel's heaven may = killing the Angel. And I'm pretty sure Susie is the one to deliver the killing blow, and that the final tableau makes it clear who is who.
Susie is reacting violently to this version of herself that she wants to keep from ever existing. And I think that would also explain why she doesn't want to open up to Kris about what she saw. She is ashamed, she is probably going to bounce back from the initial shock feeling emboldened. She just wants to change things.
This isn't a perfect theory, of course. It's a knee-jerk one based on what I understand to be Susie's arc toward true Hero. There are lots of things this DOESN'T answer, like why does the original prophecy cutscene look the way it does, with Kris Susie and Ralsei (not "The Girl"?) I actually think this is all part of the plan, that Susie had to find her agency via the Fun Gang first. Besides, how killer would it be, dramatically, to have an updated prophecy cutscene if we finally learn "the truth"? Suddenly it's the Human (Kris), The Prince from the Dark (Ralsei), and the Girl (Noelle). They're both monsters, yes, but Susie is The Monster in this prophecy, literally and figuratively (I'm emotional even thinking about this, btw).
Even if Noelle isn't The Girl, I still think the final prophecy shows Susie killing someone that she cares about in order to "save the world."
This would also explain so much more about both Carol AND Catty's insistence that Noelle be kept away from Susie. Carol knows the Prophecy via primary source. Catty consults with the occult in order to know it. It's not homophobia and it's not necessarily horrible parenting, it's... a really shitty burden of knowledge for any mother to have.
Anyway... uh... heavy stuff... um...
The Jackensteun fight was great (nervous laughter)
(weeping)
In all honesty, personally, I would LOVE for the themes of redemption, learning to love oneself, to rise above, despite what everyone thinks about you and expects from you, to go THIS HARD, to be THIS CHALLENGING.
Survey program: "No one can choose who they are in this world"
Susie Deltarune:
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ETA: Watching someone else play Chapter 4, I'm even more convinced, because Gerson (following the Hammer of Justice battle) does say "they called you a hero... whatever you end up being, I sure it'll be tremendous." And like... BRO??? BRO???? Then he even says that, of the Dragon Blazers characters, she would be the Dragon. That may be badass but... uhhhhhh.... sounds bad!
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captainjackscoat · 3 days ago
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wait no bc what the actual fuck IS this?
I saw it and immediately went "blood" then I was too preoccupied with everything else to actually sit and think about it. Ink would make most sense, I think, but could narratonin work too? Is there like a dark version of narratonin? and also what the fuck is that massive key? and why he fuck is Silver missing from the key clock (as I have named it on the spot there)
there's a keyhole where Silver's flower should be, according to my notes (which are admittedly based off of the image we got end of last season, see below)
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bc see I initially thought this wee fucker
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could be a blurred version of Silver's flower but according to OP's source it isn't
SO WHERE THE FUCK IS SILVER
and back to the leaky thing. That wasnae in the original picture, and the massive fucker evidently isn't a KEYPLE key unless that key itself is like. the Massive Fucker. capitalised and all. the big boss and all that shite. like a master key that can play all characters idk.
(off-my-rocker type theory but imagine The Old Man is actually just the Massive Fucker. that's its name now)
also can we talk about the fact that a piece of paper with the key clock has been TAPED ONTO that book. WHICH MEANS THAT BOOK IS SOMETHIN ELSE UNDERNEATH WHICH IS GONNAE HAVE TAE BE REVEALED AT SOMEPOINT
The blurry picture has been driving me up the fucking wall since it was released I'm so glad we have a clearer view but it JUST RAISES MARE FUCKIN QUESTIONS
i have a question for the theorists
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does anyone have any idea why the center spot where the big key goes looks like it’s…. dripping? something dark? maybe ink?
i’ve literally seen no one talking about this and i need to know peoples theories
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danmeidiaries · 3 days ago
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JITD Theory: The Final Case will be about Pei Su
Before Episode 26 airs, I want to speculate on something. I haven't read Mo Du/Silent Reading yet - so please no spoilers only theorising. But I think Pei Su is going to try and bait Janitor into choosing him as the next Apath to target/reveal
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In episode 25, Pei Su points out that the goal of the Janitor's organisation is to expose Apaths with deep roots in Xinzhou by exposing Sunshine Foundation's criminal Apaths. We know that Pei Su's dad was originally a member/founder/sponsor of the Sunshine Fund and one of the most extreme types of psychopath who tried to raise Pei Su the same way.
Luo Weizhao says that it's almost time for the Janitor to reveal his true intentions. When they sit at the desk, Pei Su rubs his forehead as if he's thinking about something very hard.
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He then tells Luo Weizhao that he has a lead coming in a few days. I'm wondering if the plan is for Pei Su to pretend to side with the Sunshine Foundation and then try and make the Janitor target him to drag both organisations into the open. In episode 21, Pei Su revealed that the Sunshine Foundation had tried to contact him subtly but he had thus far avoided them. He also thinks that when enough sponsors have been unmasked by the Janitor, they will come to him for emergency financing.
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We also know that Pei Su has his own plan going in the works that he hinted to Luo Weizhao right at the end of episode 25. In episode 24, he seemed to show Du Jia something inside the car (perhaps instructions for an as yet unknown task)
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But we were in Luo Weizhao's POV looking into the car so we don't see it.
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And this line could be just Pei Su reemphasising his previous points to Du Jia in their heart to heart conversation, but could also be him making sure Du Jia understands the next part of his plan. Given that both Pei Su and Du Jia seemingly look down at something, that's my guess. Additionally, Pei Su gives a confirming nod to Du Jia (unseen by Weizhao) as he gets in his car that again could be read as a farewell kind of nod but could also be a - you know what to do - kind of thing.
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A little later in episode 24, he makes a phone call after making sure Luo Weizhao has left the house. We don't know who to or what is discussed, but ominous music plays in the background. What if this was part of Pei Su trying to seem as tough he is ready to play along with the Sunshine Foundation and that's who he was contacting?
Also, as much as Pei Su says he is the perfect candidate for recruitment by the Sunshine Foundation, he is also the perfect target for the Janitor IF he was a psychopathic Apath; a well established Apath in the perfect place to cause corruption and manipulate the SID (something Pei Su even points out himself - though in relation to the idea of him being the most likely suspect for the Janitor's identity in episode 21)
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Which is something even Luo Weizhao was suspicious of up until episode 21. Pei Su was literally at the centre of his suspect board that he made in episode 15.
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Now, as the audience, we know that Pei Su isn't involved in either organization. We also know that the Janitor is somehow aware that Pei Su is part of the 1.3% of Apaths. He says as much in an earlier episode that it would be great if Pei Su joined them but he has flawed genetics. (I tried to find the screenshot but I couldn't remember the episode number.)
Additionally, not all of Pei Su and his family mysteries have been uncovered yet. The Janitor already used a 'Wuthering Heights' reference to pinpoint Pei Su's father meaning he knows how abusive Pei Su's home life was as a child. But there are still flashes of an unknown incident happening in the basement when Pei Su was younger and his mother was still alive.
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So what if the last case of Justice in the Dark is centred around uncovering Pei Su's mysteries. Pei Su pretends to be one of the Sunshine Foundation's Apath criminals by being available as a sponsor when they need money (to gain access to their inner circle) which then bring the Janitor in to focus on Pei Su and try and expose him as a dangerous Apath thereby revealing the final mysteries around Pei Su and his past?
Let me know what you think! Like I said, no book spoilers please, this is just some fun theorising before the final 5 episodes air!
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witches-dream · 2 days ago
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I'm really curious about what the other beastancient legendary costume pairs will be so here' some theorizing by: ME
So, so far we have 2 pairs but they have different concepts: one is basically a swap au, while the other is something like a bad ending type deal. We can expect the other 3 pairs to either have their own concepts, more fitting for their characters and dynamics, or to continue playing with concepts similar to these two. Since we know nearly nothing about Silent Salt so far, i'm gonna skip on talking about them
The concept where the ancient joins the beast really only works for eternalberry, where Sugar actively wanted Holly to remain at her side. It is also PARTIALLY what happened with Truthless Recluse, but since he already temporarily joins Shmilk in the story, the costume set had a different idea, that being an alternate universe where Shmilk and Vani swap places (while still, interestingly, remaining themselves in their heart, down to having the same motivations as their normal counterparts; just existing on a different side of the narrative). With eternalberry, however, it's less like a parallel timeline where things are different, and more like another way that things could've happened in the main story. Holly even has her doubts about staying in the garden, proving that she's still very much the same person.
So, with these two sets, a pattern already emerges: 1) both costume sets show how things could've "gone differently" and 2) it does so by reimagining the same characters in a new situation, rather than changing the characters completely. That is to say, my first theory is: *drumroll* there WILL NOT be a corrupted ancient or a redeemed beast in these costumes. Because to have either happen, the character's lives must go so differently that they will become entirely different people. Of course, with only 2 sets, this cight as well be a coincidence. But I also think that keeping the former identities of the beasts a mystery adds to their characters and the fun of analyzing them. Basically, I would rather continue theorizing rather than being handed an answer. Although! Corrupted ancients as a costume concept is a bit more likely (given that it's KIND OF what already happened with both sets), but when i say it won't happen, i mean we won't get "ancient if they became a beast". It will be more akin to the sets we already got, where, you can notice, the ancients don't entirely agrre with their beast half (even Holly)
Mystic Flour better get another legend costume that's NOT a part of a set with Cacao, because, since they're already doing sets, it means all pairs will get one, but Mystic is still in the queue for her COTY costume. Give her like a cute Valentines one like they do for COTY winners in CROB, or a Christmas one since they already missed out on Valentine's. As for the set with Cacao, I don't think there's a universe in which they are together bc obv Mystic's goal is to erase the whole damn world. A swap au like in shadowvani's case wouldn't work either, since you can't easily swap their soul jams like you can with shadowvani, as in mysticao's case, their conflict is not a "two sides of the same coin" or a difference in ideologies; their Resolution and Apathy (Emptiness) are polar opposites that i don't think would necessarily work well in a swap situation. So, what could they do? They could swap aesthetics, for one, but that's boring. But here's something interesting they have in common that wasn't explored in the story: their connection to dragons. Dark Cacao is obvious, but, if you didn't know, her gacha background portrays her facing a dragon (on the left)
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Som could both of them, like, fuse with dragons and begin an eternal fight like the black and white dragons that Cacao sealed...? Idk, i think that's a sick idea. So that's one theory that I have.
Goldenspice (i'm STICKING with this name, ok) is hard also, bc similarly to mysticao, i don't think you could twist the story for them to be together and whatnot. It's either one survives, or the other. Except, Goldie doesn't kill Spice in the story, and we don't exactly know her motivation (we do know the writers' one tho lol), but i think for her to kill him is to prove him right about destruction being "the only way". So, why don't we go that route...? Goldie's costume is the timeline where she defeats Spice without awakening, killing him because of anger rather than because of her wish to protect what's dear to her, and becoming a lot more of cruel person afterwards. And Spice's costume is one where he kills Goldie, in which he becomes sorta detached and apathetic, where destruction no longer brings him the same joy because he no longer has the perfect opponent to look forward to. In both instances, they get the other's Soul Jam, but the light of theirs fades and they become ordinary gemstones. How's that for a bad ending...? (I gotta say, it's interesting, but i don't think it's gonna happen even remotely, lol).
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shesprettymeh · 1 day ago
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The Prophecy's End
**Spoilers for Chapters 3 and 4 of Deltarune**
In the end of chapter 4 after establishing the prophecy as both highly specific and all but guaranteed, Susie learns how the prophecy ends and responds by breaking the glass it was on. Ralsei then has a breakdown, apologizing to her to which she responds by telling him that they are not going to let it happen.
So what is it?
My first immediate thought while playing the game was that they all died. The final tragedy is the heroes all sacrifice themselves for the greater good or something like that. However, after further reflection, I doubt that to be the case. Ralsei, especially in the first chapter, would have been more then willing to throw himself into a pit for the prophecy. Susie's reaction does not seem to line up with that idea either, with lines like "Like something like that would happen" implying that if this prophecy should come to pass they would not get much choice in the matter.
After thinking about it for a bit, I'm almost positive it is about Noelle. First, the prophecy goes at great lengths to mention that Susie falls in love of some form and we can safely assume this is about Noelle. Now this is Susie's darkworld so it's possible that the reason that image is shown a lot is because Susie is thinking about it. It is also possible that the reference to Susie's love is as important as the reference to Lancer calling Ralsei "Toothpaste Boy". That is to say, not at all. However, that being said, Noelle has importance beyond being Susie's love interest in the form of the weird route. With Chapter 4 it is clear that the weird route is not about corrupting and manipulating various characters but rather Noelle specifically. If the weird route is a way to escape the prophecy and get a different ending, the fact that it focuses on Noelle is notable. Especially since the idea is her getting stronger, perhaps strong enough to circumvent her own death.
Beyond this, if the Knight is Dess or Carol, as many have theorized, the idea that it would take Noelle's death to stop them is not far fetched. It would also bring a certain layer of irony if you believe the theory that Carol is doing this in an attempt to bring Dess back, she would lose one daughter in return for the other.
There is one part where Susie asks Ralsei what he knows about Noelle and he only mentions what armors she can equip. His portrait does not indicate any worry or concern surrounding the topic, so maybe it's not about her. Of course, maybe that's why he is apologizing so much after Susie finds out, because he knows he lied.
Granted, we will not know for 100% until we hear it from the game itself. I just thought it was some fun food for thought.
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