#i wish i could send this anon to the inboxes of all those stupid terfs that got on my arse a month ago đ
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Sorry, this might be a long rant but those anons and replies you were getting got me going. TERFs always say how trans women are âcosplayingâ or âperformingâ what they think a woman is. But, and I say this as a cis woman, donât cis women do that too? Iâd argue that itâs not even performing womanhood, itâs performing femininity, and isnât femininity a performance at the end of the day? Cis women wear makeup, jewelry, dresses, etc. usually to express their femininity, but itâs not inherent to being a woman. Being born a woman doesnât automatically come with a gene that makes you interested in traditionally feminine things or ways of expression, itâs all socialization. People associate gender affirmation only with trans people, but cis men and woman do it too? Men will go to the gym to build muscle or get hair transplants to feel more masculine, and women will do things that make them feel more feminine. Itâs all a performance that we put on for society. Cis women get cosmetic surgery to adhere to female beauty standards all the time (even JKR, allegedly) but suddenly itâs a problem when trans women do it?
It sucks because I do consider myself a radical feminist but TERFs make it hard to exist in that space. I think TERFs and I would agree that women getting plastic surgery is actually not an empowering or feminist choice and only further feeds an industry that profits off of making women (especially women of color) feel insecure. However, I donât blame women for getting work done, because theyâre essentially the victim in the scenario. Why would I blame someone who is groomed by a society that tells them certain parts of them are bad and need to be changed? Itâs pointless and self righteous, and it only further puts the burden of being the âperfect victimâ on women. I feel the same for trans women (and men). I donât like that we live in a society that pressures people into undergoing sometimes very serious procedures to be more palatable. But thatâs hardly their fault, is it? Can I really blame anyone for being worn down and making a decision to try and make their life in a toxic world easier? Specifically for trans women, it also involves their safety because they (specifically trans women of color) are the most at risk members of society, especially when it comes to violence. The more they âpassâ, they are keeping themselves safe.
Itâs just so crazy to me how TERFs can acknowledge that the patriarchy is toxic to women in ways that affect their daily lives and how they present themselves, but canât seem to understand that it also affects other groups of people in those ways as well. Trans women arenât our enemy, theyâre just trying to survive, just like we are. How can I fault anyone for that?
Again, so sorry for the long rant but I got heated lmao
no dont apologise babe i completely agree LOL. its so sad because when i first came across radical feminism it was about their takes on sex work and the porn industry in general and i really agreed with a lot they had to say so i kept deep diving and THEN i came across the terfism. and to this day idk whether that is intrinsic to radfem ideology or if terfs are just saying it is. either way, its sad because i feel like radfems are sort of overshadowed by terfs in their spaces and get a bad rep to their name because of how many bigots use that space to promote their hateful rhetoric instead of promoting their good takes on patriarchy.
that original post about jkr got a lot of terfs/self proclaimed radfems in the shits too and i would scroll through their profiles and read what they had to say about the oppression of ciswomen and actually agree with them. and then they would turn around and argue the exact opposite about trans women which was absolutely mind-boggling to me. you tell me these people can discuss so many nuances about cis-womanhood but refuse to acknowledge similar nuances in transpeople? crazy. and very disappointing.
your point on plastic surgery and gender affirming surgery is interesting. ive never thought about it that way before or thought to compare the two. i agree with what you say about cis women getting plastic surgery btw, i also dont think itâs empowering women at all but i wont blame them. i think the difference between that and gender affirming surgery is that there are more grey areas like gender dysmorphia (although not everyone who gets this surgery has to have dysmorphia) and also what you said about safety in passing! im cis too so i dont pretend to know how gender dysmorphia feels like (i know dysmorphia is also not a trans-only thing either though). maybe the experience of that is because of socialisation and the knowledge that oneâs physicality is preventing them from being socialised âcorrectly,â and maybe that would disappear if strict ideas of gender (and what âman/womanâ âlookâ like) disappeared as well, but i donât pretend to know lol. i dont want to make it out to be some big illusion of patriarchy or anything.
either way, youâre right. we are oppressed by patriarchy in similar ways, ways that are exacerbated for trans women (and more so for non-white trans women). even trans men are oppressed too, but im not so sure how they fit into terf rhetoric. i think they may just groups trans men in with cis women? although ive never seen a terf come on here and speak up for the oppression of trans men either so. lol.
sorry for taking so long to answer this i was pondering it for a long time đđ
#intersectional radfems who arent terfs ily đ«¶#i wish i could send this anon to the inboxes of all those stupid terfs that got on my arse a month ago đ#harry potter#hp#anti jkr#anti terfs#radfem#ask#anon#rewriting
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