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My thoughts about old version of Hellfire
Here I analyzed judge Claude Frollo, his arc, twisted worldview, conflicting feelings toward Esmeralda and the one certain and important moment of Hellfire, comparing it with the workprint version. What I can tell about the character's arc, it is pretty interesting arc for antagonist, especially in animation of 90s — in contrast to protagonist, who growths as a person and improves himself, learns something new and accepts some mistakes and wants to become better, valuing the new friends, the antagonist tries to save his world he created in his mind.
Now I want to discuss about the early version of Hellfire. I recently discovered and listened this song and noticed different lyris in some parts. So, I'll show them and write my thoughts, because these early lyrics, from one side, confirm some aspects of the movie and final song and, from another side, have quite different dynamic and mood, still keeping the initial message about love, corrupted by Frollo into obsession, possessiveness and wrath due to Frollo's fanaticism, racist and deluded worldview, ignorance, denial and fear to encounter own imperfection and to realize own crimes.
Yet, the early version and the final version (in contrast to the workprint version) show the character as the lonely and lost person, who falls into madness in attempt to save the twisted and sick (while in his eyes — nearly perfect) world he created in his mind. The first difference happens in the scene of Frollo's fetishism with Esmeralda's scarf. If in the final version we hear "Like fire! Hellfire! This fire in my skin! This burning desire is turning me to sin!",
in the old version the lyrics are these: Hellfire, it must be hellfire! I feel it searing, scalding underneath my skin! Hellfire! What is this? Hellfire! My brain is boiling, boiling, driving me to sin!
This moment confirms that Frollo never experienced neither falling in love, nor physical attractiveness before (like, he is 50-55 — very late puberty, you know). He doesn't compare it with hellfire, explaining it for himself in a bit subtle way, he blatantly explains his sudden feelings toward Esmeralda as hellfire. In the final version of Hellfire his previous line "Then tell me, Maria! Why I see her dancing there? Why her smoldering eyes still scorch my soul?" hints this aspect too (interesting, but smoldering also can mean "condemning" — previously Esmeralda accused him of cruelty and hypocrisy in front of all Parisians, and in my previous post I already mentioned Frollo's arc and biggest fear as the part of his inner conflict, why he doesn't want to admit his feelings to Esmeralda as a love). Plus, in the scene on the festival, when Esmeralda kisses him, you can notice another hint of his lack of experience — how confused, embarrassed, timid and meek Frollo is at this moment, until Esmeralda jokingly moves his hat. Simply saying, his aggressive and unadequate behavior is caused by his unability to understand his feelings and what he has to do in the conditions he happened to be — while his fanaticism and xenophoby are the bullets for the final blow.
The next moment is in the scene with Esmeralda's spirit Frollo dreamily walks to and wants to hug. In the final version he sings "Protect me, Maria! Don't let this siren cast her spell! Don't let her fire sear my flesh and bone! Destroy Esmeralda! And let her taste the fires of hell! Or else let her be mine and mine alone!". The final version focuses on his anger, fear (also fear of unknown), despair, turmoil, woe, how Frollo is afraid of his feelings and runs from them, hiding it under the mask of fury and blaming Esmeralda and others, and only in the small, but very personal, tender and powerful scene with Esmeralda's spirit we finally see, what Frollo actually wants — he wants to be loved by her, he wants her sincere and willing reciprocity, and that he actually idolizes and admires her. He looks lost, vulnerable and very lonely. And all this you actually can read and see in the visuals and expressions of the character. In the old vesion the lyrics are these: I curse you, Maria, and all your saints so cold and cruel, Who let this fire consume my flesh and bone! I curse Esmeralda, that name which means a fiery jewel! She is a jewel, and one that I must own! Here Frollo blames even the saints and at the same time here he openly admits especially to himself that he admires and idolizes Esmeralda, comparing her with a fiery jewel. The same theme of possessiveness and obsession with tiny shred of hidden real feeling of love, but more openly explained. Most likely, these storyboards demonstrate exactly this early version.
For some reason, it reminds me a little bit of ballet or figure skating. After Esmeralda's escape in the final version Frollo sings "Hellfire! Dark fire! Now, gipsy, it's your turn! Choose me or your pyre! Be mine or you will burn!". This version focuses on how terrifying Frollo is in his madness, possessiveness and anger, since he talks with Esmeralda through her scarf and gives to her the ultimatum, as if she intentionally ran away exactly after he opened up and revealed his feelings toward her. Some paranoidal disorder right here.
And partially the reason of such his outburst also can be explained by this previous scene with Esmeralda's spirit — I mean, Frollo clearly has some issues with trust at least toward humans, he is afraid of betrayal, so he will obviously feel wrath, if some person he opened up to will betray him and reveal Frollo's weaknesses to others or whatever. This outburst also allows him to burn Esmeralda's scarf he previously wore on his chest and hugged to himself.
While the early version gives a bit different mood: Hellfire! Let there be hellfire! I will possess this gypsy witch for whom I yearn! Hellfire! Let her taste hellfire! She will be mine, or at the stake I swear she'll burn!
He is still in wrath and feels insulted and betrayed, but here he promises and swears to himself that he will either possess Esmeralda or burn her. What's interesting, in this version it is the first time, when Frollo openly and seriously tells his goal of exactly taking away the life of Esmeralda, before this he didn't mention even the idea of that (while in the final version it was not so clear, 'cause he already sang "Destroy Esmeralda! And let her taste the fires of hell!" — although from his side it was a lie and another attempt to hide his true goal, which was later revealed "Or else let her be mine and mine alone!") and the way how he sings "Or at the stake I swear she'll burn!" — some kind of frightening realization of how far he had come, and there's no path for return. In the final version he is blinded by wrath in this moment and only after burning the scarf he realizes and feels regret and hesitates, but then immediately oppresses all these feelings in favor of "But she will be mine or she will burn!". So, yeah, it was pretty interesting journey and comparing the old and final versions of the gorgeous song, how the authors communicate the theme and ideas of fear, victimblaming, obsession, possessiveness, corrupted love, loneliness, fanaticism and self-hatred. It could be interesting to read the early script, since the authors mentioned about the couple of deleted scenes — for example, how Frollo actually visited Esmeralda in the prison, revealed to her his feelings and gave the choice to either be with him or to die, and only after this we would see the sentencing before execution scene and Frollo's final and last attempt to possess Esmeralda we saw in the final movie "I can save you from the flames of this world and the next. Choose me or your pyre." (honestly, Frollo could make the ultimatum even more terrifying and hopeless — I mean, he wanted to genocide all Romani, so he could tell to Esmeralda "You and all your kind will die! If you choose me, I will save you and mercy on them all!").
Looking at the horror in Esmeralda's face and eyes during this sequence in the movie, and how she shrinks into the pillar, just to distance herself away from the judge, I wonder, what frightening he told her and even did in the prison.
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Skills
One of the easiest ways to endear me to a character is to give them a skill (another reason Tiana, Mulan, Esmeralda and Rapunzel are a few of my favorite Disney Heroines, they all have/gain skills that are at least somewhat valuable to the plot and their character development). Ariel too but since everyone in the Disneyverse has an amazing voice it's hard for her to stand out in that way. But I'm not sure why I went on a tangent about Disney heroines when this post is actually about Gen V. For fanfic and meta purposes I've been thinking of what skills the characters should have that don't inherently pertain to being superheroes.
Marie: Medicine. This is a popular one and for a reason. I'd love it if in the coming seasons we see her going even beyond the instincts of her powers to understand how bodies work and how to fix them, and the healing properties of certain drugs, herbs and plants. This would make her powers even more efficient and would come in clutch if she was ever unable to use them for whatever reason. She's already expressed interest in learning CPR (in the funniest way possible), and is generally invested in saving lives rather than merely fighting, so let's see where that goes. Jordan: Music. I'll admit that this was mostly spawned by the shot of a guitar in their room and the fact that listening to music is the first thing we see them doing, but having musical abilities is also considered a plus in Vought world. However, I don't think performing at award shows and telethons is going to make them happy. For Jordan I see playing instruments as something they do as a very personal, stress-relieving activity that they just happen to be very good at. They do open mics out of costume and write melodies in a journal and give their friends little concerts. It's what centers them.
Emma: Sewing, costume design. I headcanon that she makes her own tiny outfits (although they are just as likely doll clothes). After embracing her growth abilities she will probably also have to learn to make giant clothes, or garments with a lot of stretch and versatility. She has a fairly quirky and dynamic sense of fashion so I'd imagine she'd get a lot out of this creatively as well.
Cate: Event planning, hospitality. Cate, with all of her many many flaws, has a very warm and friendly demeanor, and a way of making people feel comfortable. She also has that confident popular girl quality and just wants everyone around her to have a good time. I bet she throws a bitching party.
Sam: Painting, drawing. Sam sees the world in an unconventional way to say the least, and he has a lot of troubles that he could use a peaceful outlet for. The idea of him getting inspiration from his comic books and learning to draw and paint is a solid one in my opinion.
Andre/Luke: Athletics. It's difficult to talk about Andre right now, and Luke left before I got to know him better, but they both have athlete vibes to me. I see Andre being really into a rowdier sport like hockey or soccer, and Luke gravitating more toward something preppy like lacrosse or rowing. But if they were on the same team I think their sport would be baseball.
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https://gizmodo.com/castlevania-nocturne-interview-spoilers-alucard-annette-1850892875
This is an interview that for once is not only with Deats but with Clive Bradely as well, Nocturne's writer and Ellis' replacement.
Before I start, I love how they talk about *that* ending like it's the hypest thing to ever hype. They know. They know what the fans only care about.
It ends with a clear and ready indicator that team is ready to tackle arguably the most iconic Castlevania narrative of all time, Symphony of the Night, as Richter and his allies find themselves bolstered in the darkest hour by the arrival of a familiar face… well, to us, at least, even if our young heroes aren’t as up on their Castlevania lore as gamers are.
Fucking peak. I love it. The gang is ready to tackle the SoTN story because even though they were about to die badly, after losing Tera, Alucard is there to save the day. Goddamnit if you suck his dick any harder you'll vacuum it off his body.
Also lol and lmao they cannot adapt SoTN at all. Where is Richter grappling with the fear that after killing Dracula his life is now done, making him easy prey for Shaft's manipulations? None of this can happen. Dracula isn't even around!
The character of Annette, trapped in a castle, made me think of Esmeralda in The Hunchback of Notre Dame—this extraordinary woman who sweeps into France. It seemed an obvious step to make Annette a revolutionary from St. Domingue/Haiti on that sort of model.
This... sure is a train of thought. I'll just say N!Annette fucking wishes she had Esmeralda's charisma.
Later we had a Haitian adviser on board, Cècile Accilien, who helped us with aspects of the history and culture. We wanted it to be as authentic and grounded in reality as possible.
oh god no spinning i'm wheezing
If i was Mrs. Accilien I'd be offended by how the character named after me can't even be a proper wise guide without degenerating into "your entire self is rooted into being a slave" and "those stupid frenchies will never understand our pain, so don't bother expecting empathy from your boo", but what do I know
also yeah sure it's realistic how Annette uses the power of her gods to run away from slavery
I just loved the idea of Richter’s grandfather as this bitter old guy who’s been through hell, lost his magic (which at the point they meet is also true of Richter)—kind of the opposite of Richter, or an image of how Richter could end up if he doesn’t evolve into the hero he needs to be.
Fuck off. I've already ranted about this. My poor man Juste deserves better than being "that one stupid asshole that exists as a warning".
I just wanted to add that Juste is a really special inclusion in the series for me, and Clive brought him into the show in a really great way that resonates really well with the Castlevania fan in me.
"wah i'm so glad juste was included in my story as a cynical fuck to be bullied, for meeeee 🥺 i'm such a big fan guys 🥺🥺🥺"
I don't like Deats. I know it's mean of me, but the more I read him talk, the less I like him as a person, he's just so conceited. I don't know who is the bigger hack between him and Flynn now.
So there’s almost a bit of a debate about Alucard’s design and whether he has intended to have pale blonde hair or white hair in Symphony of the Night based on the artwork of him and even his character’s sprite in the game. At the time of designing him in the original series, though, I decided to lean towards the pale blonde hair in order to invoke his mother, which was appropriate to the story. His hair got more saturated during lighting/compositing than I had ever intended, though, which was a constant frustration of mine. But even back then I tinkered with the idea that if we were to jump forward in time, to show how time has passed by leaning more towards the white haired direction (this also had the added benefit of not being something we would have to worry about getting over-saturated during lighting!).
Well, there you have it. N!Alucard's hair got lighter in-universe. I wonder if he changed color naturally or he decided to change his appearance.
for Nocturne, we wanted to invoke his SOTN look while also reflecting that this is a version of him that’s been awake and fighting for 300 years
Mhh. So I was right. He did live on for 300 years and witness his friends' death, abandoning his castle and village and Trevor's descendants to fight by himself. I'll make sure to judge this decision once S2 comes out.
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Liam Evans Main Story: Chapter 13
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A series of letters revealed the Evans family's past.
(Liam is being honest with me about his feelings, and this isn't a matter that's easy to talk about.)
(But what is this… uncomfortable feeling?)
Drops of black ink fell onto my heart, gradually spreading and corroding.
Kate: Um, Liam.
Liam: Mm, what is it?
Kate: What you just said about… living because your life is precious… do you mean it?
Liam: … Huh?
(You said that the life Jacob saved was precious.)
(And yet…)
== Flashback Start ==
Liam: Hey… want to kill me?
Liam: You want to kill me, don't you? If that's what you want, I’ll gladly let you do that.
Liam: Only then will you definitely… “forgive me”.
…
(The other time too.)
Liam: … Pfft, … haha, hahaha
Young Man with Piercings: … Wha… Why are you laughing…
Brown Haired Man: … Oi… what’s with this guy…
Liam: Fufu… fine, you just want to get rid of me, right?
Liam: Then let’s try to kill one another, starting now! … Haha, I wonder if you two can even kill me…?
== Flashback End ==
(At that time… I don’t think he cherished his life.)
(No, if anything I—)
Right when I tried to identify the uncomfortable feeling I was getting—
Liam cupped my cheeks with both of his hands and rested his forehead against mine.
(...!)
Liam: Fufu, what’s wrong? You look so serious.
Liam: Rest assured. I meant everything I just told you, from the bottom of my heart.
Liam: What I talked about was my past.
Liam chuckled when I looked into his rose coloured eyes to see if he were telling the truth.
Liam: Hey, are you hungry? Victor was baking muffins this morning, there might still be some left.
Liam: I’ll make you a nice cup of tea, and put in some honey specially for you.
Liam: Come on, shall we go?
Kate: Wah…! H-Hey, Liam!
Liam let out a genuine laugh as he pulled me by the hand.
(... Am I just overthinking?)
(Liam just told me that he meant everything he said. So I shouldn't doubt him anymore, right?)
I convinced myself that I was indeed overthinking. But when I sat before the typewriter that night, I couldn’t type a single word.
…
The next day, Liam invited me to accompany him to a meeting at The Scala.
In front of the theatre members gathered there, Tom began to speak in a more enthusiastic manner than usual.
Tom: Our latest production “Wuthering Heights” was a huge, huge, HUGE success! There are lots of people looking forward to The Scala’s next production!
Tom: It is The Scala’s mission to respond to our audience's voices. Therefore, I’ve been thinking about what could be our next production.
Theatre Member: Tom, just cut to the chase and tell us already! So, what’s our next production going to be?
Tom: Patience. Patience. Our next production is… “The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Notre Dame de Paris)”!
Liam: I’ve never heard of “The Hunchback of Notre Dame”. Have you, Kate?
Kate: Me neither, I haven't read that one yet.
The theatre members around us gave mixed reactions, so Tom gave them an explanation.
Tom: The story is set in 15th Century Paris. At the Notre Dame Cathedral, there was a man named Quasimodo.
Tom: Quasimodo spent his days alone at the top of the tall tower ringing the bells, never knowing what the outside world was like.
Tom: One day, he met a beautiful dancer named Esmeralda and fell in love with her.
Tom: By the way, Kate.
Kate: Y-Yes?
I was surprised when Tom suddenly called out to me, and he looked at me with a twinkle in his eyes—
Tom: What does love mean to you?
(Uhh…)
Kate: I think love is something we cannot do without. People need love in order to survive.
Liam: Ahaha, I like your way of thinking, Kate.
Tom: Fufu, that’s a wonderful answer, Kate! Personally, I think that there are endless possibilities when it comes to love.
Tom: Quasimodo found out what love was, and aimed to change his destiny.
Tom: Which is why I believe that this story will be very meaningful to perform in this rapidly evolving era—
Liam brought his lips to my ear, so that Tom wouldn't hear.
Liam: … He asked you for your opinion, but he just wanted to say what HE thinks, don’t you think?
Kate: Fufu, that’s alright. He seems to be having a lot of fun.
Tom: And so, Liam!
Liam: Wah! What is it?
Tom: I was thinking of giving you the lead role in “The Hunchback of Notre Dame”.
Liam: Eh… me?
Tom: Why are you surprised? You’ve been increasing in popularity lately, and now you're receiving offers from other countries.
(From other countries… That’s right, Liam is now the top actor in The Scala.)
The audience watching Liam during “Romeo and Juliet” and “Wuthering Heights” were becoming more fervent.
Receiving all that adoration and expectations, Liam reached for the stars.
Tom: Everyone here agrees with me.
Tom: What do you think, Liam? Will you accept the role…?
Liam: Haha, you’re as assertive as ever. OK! I’ll definitely live up to your expectations.
All the theatre members immediately started cheering.
Tom: Now that it’s been decided, I’ll start working on the theatre adaptation of the novel. Hugo’s novels are hard to understand, and to write a theatre adaptation—
Liam: You haven’t written the play yet? You’ll have to work really hard, then.
Tom: You’re the one who has to be prepared for a tough fight.
Tom: Quasimodo is the polar opposite of you, you're a flamboyant man. Meanwhile he lacks self-confidence and is lonely—
Liam: …
Liam: No worries, Tom.
Liam: I feel that I will surely be able to play this role well.
…
After we left the theatre, Liam and I were walking along the River Thames.
Liam: Tom got too carried away with his talking. I was planning to go on a date with you, but it's gotten so late.
Kate: Fufu, but it’s nice to have something to be that passionate about. I’m really looking forward to seeing you on stage.
Liam: You’re so sneaky, Kate.
Liam: I can’t stop working hard if you say that.
As we laughed and chatted about all sorts of things, we happened to overhear the conversations of people passing by—
Lady Passerby: There’s going to be a fire festival at the public square tonight. Let’s go have a look.
Liam: …
(Ah…)
To Liam, the sight of fire might be a painful reminder of his past.
(It’s best to avoid the pain if it can be avoided. You shouldn't be forced to remember it.)
Kate: Liam, I want to stop by the gelato shop you told me about that time. Can you come with me?
Liam: …
Liam: Mm, I’d love to.
…
While we were walking down a narrow street off the main road on our way to the gelato shop, a hooded man with a cane appeared and blocked our path.
(...?)
Liam: Oh? You were at the theatre…
The man approached Liam with his cane—
Hooded Man: “Long time no see.”
Liam: … Uh.
Immediately after that courteous greeting, he happily gave Liam a hug.
(“Long time no see”? Is he an acquaintance of Liam’s?)
(However—)
The man’s hood covered his eyes, making it impossible to see his face and recognise who he was.
After hugging Liam for a little while, he walked away with his cane.
(... And he’s gone.)
Kate: He had a somewhat unique aura. Do you know him, Liam?
Liam: …
Kate: … Liam?
Liam: Ah, yeah. He’s one of my supporters, I saw him at the theatre the other night.
Kate: I see. Looks like he’s such a big fan of you that he reflexively went for a hug.
Liam: … Y-Yeah.
Liam: …
…
After returning to the castle with Kate, Liam heads to the lounge alone.
Alfons: Oh, it’s Liam. What are you doing here at this hour?
Liam: Hey Alfons. Let’s go do something thrilling. I need an extraordinarily good one to satisfy my curiosity…
Liam: Shall we jump off a cliff? Ah—... how about playing chicken in front of a moving carriage?
Liam: … I need to satisfy my curiosity as soon as possible.
Liam: Or else… I’ll do “something wrong” again.
Alfons: …
Alfons: Aha! Of course, I’m always up for some fun.
Alfons: However, before we go out—
Alfons took off his black leather gloves and moved to stand behind Liam.
He then stroked the nape of Liam’s neck with his bare fingers in an alluring gesture.
Alfons: I think you’ll need to hallucinate tonight.
…
— The next day, Liam, Alfons, Roger, and I were heading to the east for a mission.
On the east side, there was a slum called “East End”. Our destination was an almshouse in the outskirts of the slum.
As the carriage shook, I glanced at Liam sitting next to me.
Kate: What on earth is our mission even about?
Liam: …
Kate: … Liam?
Roger: Hm? Hey, Liam. The young lady is talking to you.
Liam: Oh, sorry! I spaced out…
Alfons: Liam and I spent the entire night playing together. It’s inevitable for him to feel sleepy.
Alfons: Allow me to explain today’s mission for Liam’s sake, since he seems very unfocused.
Alfons: For today’s mission, we are going on a tour at an almshouse that provides support for underprivileged children.
Alfons: The almshouse is known to be exceptionally wholesome, clean, and praiseworthy.
Roger: … Hey, Al. Are you sure you’re not in a foul mood?
Alfons: No way! Just thinking about the mission is making my heart race painfully fast!
(If it’s only going to be a tour like Alfons said, it should be fine…)
But I knew from the start that there was no way Crown’s mission could be that simple.
With a spare key obtained from goodness knows where, we entered the almshouse through its back door.
Roger’s curse ability was to “pick up sounds from long distance sources”.
He stood by the entrance and listened carefully to our surroundings, so that we could take action if anything happened.
(This almshouse is very clean and well-maintained, just like how Alfons described it to be…)
However — there was something unsettling about it.
Liam: … Let’s go deeper to the back of the house. Kate, stick with me.
Kate: Okay…
Located at the far end of the house was a room similar to a storage room, and when we opened up a trapdoor concealed beneath the flooring—
(... A hidden stairwell?)
Alfons: … Now, it is time for our pleasant and enjoyable tour of the facility.
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Oh, I will send more later because they are super interesting but this one immediately got my attention: 33, What is their wedding day like? For Hollina, Rolfmaine, Quaselle and Sinric (I didn't plan on having two straight and two gay couples LOL those are the ones that are very intriguing to me in regards to the wedding)
What is their wedding day like?
Hollina
Holli and Lina's wedding would be a big event. They both know a lot of people and care about making their wedding be as great as their love for each other. Even though they have had their disagreements about certain aspects of their wedding (like Holli wanting something elegant and modern, and Lina wanting something princessy and fairytale-like) they have managed to meet in the middle and their wedding will be remembered for decades. Their wedding day is filled with flowers, fairy lights, karaoke, glass tiles for the dancing area, and you better believe their first dance is choreographed to the max! And they have a first song too, because of course they do.
I also made a short fanfic about Holli's feelings about wearing a wedding veil you can read here.
Rolfmaine
Both John and Anastasia agreed they wanted a big, disgustingly elegant wedding. John Rolfe is used to fancy parties with stuffy clothing and waltzing around in a ballroom, and while Anastasia can't dance to save her life, she loves the same things John does. Their guest list, however, would not be exceptionally big. Both of them have few family members and a few friends, so despite the elegant setting and atmosphere, the wedding would still be intimate. John would consider playing a diplomatic move and invite acquaintances, but ultimately he didn't want to have to put pressure on Anastasia on her wedding day.
Quaselle
Simple and sweet forest ceremony, not truly a traditional wedding. I don't see Belle being religious and Quasimodo would have a very strained relationship with Christianity after all the religious trauma he's been through. So their wedding would be much more about having a day where they tell the world they love each other and intend to be together till death do them part. Neither Belle or Quasimodo would want a big, fancy wedding either. And while some might have expected them to get married in Notre Dame, ultimately the place has too many bitter memories for Quasimodo despite Notre Dame holding a lot of good memories for him as well. And Belle is a simple girl, ultimately she only cares about marrying Quasimodo and sharing the moment with friends and family. The party AFTER the ceremony though? Big street party. Even though Belle and Quasimodo are somewhat introverted and prefer small gatherings, they have a huge amount of acquaintances who would want to celebrate them, and they wouldn't be against that. But the ceremony would be just for them, Maurice, Esmeralda, Phoebus and Zephyr.
Sinric
Eric's a prince; his wedding WILL be the event of the century, which is absolutely fine with Sinbad. They're both massive extroverts and thrive in big crowds, Sinbad especially loves all the attention and the jealous glances he'd get all day from bitter, rejected suitors of Eric. There's also the fact they had to hide their relationship for a while so once it's finally out there, they both want to show each other off to the world. Sinbad would hog Eric all night, dancing with him so much they'll both be exhausted by the time their wedding WEEK is over.
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Decided to some little shipping game.
Explanations:
Ship That I Loved At First Sight
I don't know how to explain, I just love them so much, maybe it's their similar age and matching zodiacs, but they are my babies. Fight me if you don't like them!
Ship That I Initially Didn't Like
HyoShun, it's not like I was "ew, what a disgusting ship", but I found it to be quite overrated. It's still not my Top 3 ship, but I grew very fond of it
Ship That I Never Liked
The original was ship that I no longer like, but I don't have it in StS, I'm still faithful to all my ships. But I do have ships that I hate, the Top 1 being Shura x Camus for two reasons: one, they don't have chemistry or any interesting interaction to spark a wish to ship them in me. Two, if I had to choose someone to have some close relationship with Shura, it would be either Deathmask, Aphrodite, Aiolia, or even Saga or Aiolos, but Camus, really?
Favorite Popular Ship
Maybe Mu x Aldebaran is not that popular as Mu x Shaka (what is a shame, Mu and Aldebaran have a lot more chemistry for me), but I still think that this ship is quite popular, so I'm putting this one here.
Favorite Rarepair
Okay, it may be weird that I don't like Shura x Camus, but like Deathmask x Camus, but the reason is because Shura x Camus is forced as hell, mainly in SoG, where they are constantly trying to make us believe that they had some sort of friendship and that's why they were fighting, but guess what, they never had it in first place, so this conflict (and ship) falls flat. But with Deathmask x Camus, even tho they never interacted too, we got a moment of Camus mentioning Deathmask when the "Dark Trio" was heading to Cancer Temple, and this was... interesting. Plus, they would have much more chemistry with each other, Deathmask trying to make Camus be more lively and energetic, while Camus would teach Deathmask to be more calm and collected.
Controversial Ship
Tbh, I don't have it. The closest that I can think about is Hypnos x Thanatos, just to clarify, I don't ship them, but if I had to believe that some incestuous ship would happen, it would be between them because we know how Greek Gods are like with their relatives. But I won't say that I don't have the idea of Hypnos being the sub top, while Thanatos is a dom bottom 😶.
Ship That I Want To Become Canon The Most
Well, even tho I love Trash Trio, I can't deny that I see them more like just best friends (who may fuck sometimes, but still best friends), but Aiolia x Shura is actually really cute. The drama, dynamics, relationship that this couple would have is so juicy. SoG may have give us terrible, horrible ships (Shura x Camus, again; Aiolia x Lyfia; Deathmask x Helena; Dohko x Aldebaran), but Shura x Aiolia isn't one of those, I would dare to say that it's the best ship that SoG gave to us along with Deathmask x Aphrodite.
Comfort Ship
Again, Trash Trio, nothing new here.
Ship That Deserves More Attention
Ikki x Pandora actually is one of the few best straight couples from Saint Seiya. Ignoring the fact that Ikki smacked Pandora on the face, but this was because she was getting on his way to save Shun, so it's slightly understandable, what made me ship them is their final interaction: Pandora finally vents her problems to someone and trust on Ikki to avenge her real family, that Hades, Hypnos and Thanatos destroyed, in turn, we see that Ikki actually empathized with her, this short scene managed to be better developing some sort of romance (what wasn't even the focus) than a lot of love stories from media nowadays. Sadly it's overshadowed with some other ships like Ikki x Esmeralda, dude got infatuated with a girl who was identical to his younger brother, what is... ew, and Pandora x Radamanthys, poor Pandora, she deserves better than Radamanthys, I hate this bitch.
First OTP
That's easy, it was Seiya x Shun. Those two spend a lot more time together than with the other Bronzies, so it's easy for me to ship. I personaly like it more than Seiya x Shiryu or Shun x Hyoga, not saying that those two ships are bad, I like them and if you like them it's fine.
Current OTP
It has to be Saga x Aiolos, while Shion and Dohko where the kid Goldies granddads, Saga and Aiolos where their mother and father, respectively (Kanon was the uncle). I'm actually glad how popular this ship is, and pretty sure that Kurumada ships them too, otherwise all their gay interactions in Episode Zero wouldn't been happened in first place.
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Rotspatz I - Monday
Elvira really feels like her cousin Katelyna, or simply Kathy how she calls her since she's a toddler, is really the only person that cares for her.
Little does she know that her aunt and mother are fighting their very own demons and that they tend to forget their children about...
Desiree is a little satisfied when the paper delivery girl (she's a transfer student from Nekojima) brings the paper so she can solve her beloved crossword puzzle.
Esmee is determined to bring the truth about their horrible mayor to the lights. She can't write the whole story down just now but she starts with writing down her sister's tragic love story, with changed names and under a pseudonym of course.
Katelyna isn't much of a people's person. She tells the gardener to leave before he can enter the lot, there's nothing to be done in this heat anyway and shoos a strange guy that is roaming their porch (blabbering something about a garden club. Guess that damn gardening company sold their data to some over-expensive socienty, huh?)
Only when it's about cats her soft side comes out. She's even willing to let the mob of people enter the lot that demand to speak to her mother and aunt.
Esmeralda: I'm 100% sure the groundwater slumped because of the oil they are pumping in the north east! They are pumping since 20 years and back when the field was found it was said, the field would only last for about 10 to 15 years. Something can't be right about that! So me and my husband have founded the initiative "Close the Oil field now!" and we wanted to ask, if you and your family would be interested in joining us. Desiree was truly considering it. It had been Caesar's doing that the oil was being pumped in Emerald Heights and his contract with a large company had made him mayor all those years ago.
She also talked to the other members of the initiative but quickly felt like she was more enthusiastic about bringing Caesar Rafferty to a fall than they were.
Katelyna: My mother told me, to ask you, to stay for dinner. Not that I care. Will you stay or won't you?
They decided to stay, it was a soup that ran in the family as long as some other secrets and the guests really enjoyed it. After the sun set, an eerie atmosphere filled the lot, the lights threw strange shadows and the paintings started to glow strangely. David: Well, thank you for dinner, Miss Rotspatz, but I think we should leave now - ahem - It's getting quiet later. Katelyna: Yeah, maybe you should really leave now. It can be dangerous around here.
Esmeralda had no idea what her strange neighbor was referring to. Her colleagues kept the area save as no second one of Emerald Heights. But when she left the house through the back door, she suddenly felt like she couldn't trust her eyes anymore.
This couldn't be true, could it?
Katelyna: The cop saw our ancestors. I don't know if she really believed her eyes or though it was a phantasm. Desiree: Don't you worry too much about that. Your aunt and I will take care about that in the morning. She will remember nothing at all. Sleep now. And Katelyna obliged as she had for all of her life.
#the sims 2#the custom uberhood#rotspatz i family#esmee rotspatz#desiree rotspatz#elvira rotspatz#rocky stone#esmeralda stone#david king#katelyna rotspatz#naru aoyama#round 1
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what if instead of how we think Esme passed her piece of eight to Jack in a dramatic mentor/student way (or a lovers), she actually made it very hard for him to get the lordship and that’s why he gets pissed whenever someone earns the title so easily (like Liz and Barbossa)?
short answer: it's my personal headcanon that Esmeralda died, and that's why Jack received the piece of eight after her. so in some respects very hard for him, but in others, easy. ( sure, no one likes losing a sometimes-girlfriend, but there's no job promotion so easy as someone else murdering your predecessor and your hands staying clean in it. figuratively. ) it's always been my belief that he's a little bitter and overall just sad when the court convenes because his own title has a very heavy sense of loss to it, which is not something elizabeth and barbossa endured when sao feng/borya died. he sacrificed a lover, friend, and mentor to become pirate lord of the caribbean, much as esmeralda lost her grandfather, captain, and father-figure.
longer answer: if Esmeralda were to give it to Jack, I think you're absolutely right that she would make it hard for him to achieve. she values the esteem of the court and the responsibility of the position very highly –– shipwreck cove is as equal, if not more so, to the prestige and respect due to any european-style court that she might have found herself in. the key difference being that pirate court is more or less a meritocracy, where you at least have to prove yourself worthy of some respect of a pirate lord to be given the title, or at least good enough to take out a very powerful captain and steal the title for yourself (and not get murdered by those loyal to them). so she wouldn't be handing it out to jack arbitrarily. and it's not that she doesn't think he's a good captain, she knows that he is, and she says as much, but this is jack well before any of the accomplishments elizabeth knows him for (sacking nassau, etc), things that are worthy of the legend of a pirate lord. but not some twenty-something who just spent half a decade playing capitalist and winning the favor of the caribbean's jeff bezos.
what i don't think she would do is hand him down a set of tasks as if he were hercules to prove himself "worthy," which i highly doubt jack would be remotely interested in, anyway. instead it would have to be after some really difficult event –– a skirmish at sea, a raid on a port, even treasure hunting –– where she conceded that he had the makings of a legend of the court and a "worthy" successor of the de Sevilla pirate lineage. he's a better pirate than Esmeralda is, in some ways, when it comes to keeping his cool as well as out-maneuvering his opponent as opposed to just being "better" in terms of skill with the sword or the superior vessel / crew, so I don't doubt that she'd be able to see that, or that he might wind up saving her life instead of losing it. ( good ending )
on the opposite angst-end of things, i could absolutely see jack being driven to revenge if someone had killed esmeralda, and taken the lordship with it –– if he killed her killer in retribution, he'd wind up pirate lord without really meaning to, but at tremendous effort and personal loss. he's shown to be more than ruthless when it comes to enacting revenge on barbossa for the pearl, and his final killing blow on christophe is done in Esmeralda’s name, so I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to think that he’d want to see her avenged and her illegitimate successor stripped from their ill-gotten gains.
tldr: yes, jack suffered quite a lot and had to work hard to become pirate lord, so his frustration at elizabeth & barbossa is fairly well-reasoned.
#✘; LETTERS ( answered )#✘; IN A WORLD WITHOUT GOLD,WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN HEROES ( headcanon )#✘; I HAVE SEVENTY TWO EXAMS AND I HAVE NOT STUDIED FOR ONE ( ooc )#✘; THE WORLD IS GNAWED BY NAMELESS THINGS ( anonymous )#this is not to say that *i* think that elizabeth didn't deserve it or anything. she girlbossed her way there.#but it was a different sort of voyage to get there#( and she *also* went through a lot of loss. that just wasn't necessarily connected to the pirate journey#other than severing any remaining ties to landed society and the hope of going back to an old life )
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So, yesterday, @andperseo pointed out something really important with the Phoenix Shun/Andromeda Ikki AU: WE’D HAVE IKKI/JUNE. So I’m going to post a few snippets for these two dorks and also more Nachi/Shun because I’m trash. (and tagging @nita-ss while I’m at it)
Arriving at Andromeda Island
Tatsumi had told him, one last thing to spite him for trying to outwit him while they had been drawing lots, that even if Ikki had gotten his way and gone to Death Queen Island, Shun would have suffered a different inferno on Andromeda Island anyways. Dead-hot temperatures during the day, below-cero degrees, frostbite-inducing temperatures during the night. The boy had a rotten luck, he had said, and yet, Ikki was gritting his teeth when the ship finally reached shore.
“Welcome to Andromeda Island,” a man with dark hair and tough features had announced to the newcomers in broken Japanese, “I’m Cepheus Daidalos, Silver Saint in charge of the apprentices in here.” He gave them all an appraising look, and with a no-nonsense kind of attitude, strenghtened his face. “We are currently in Ethiopia, and most of the people here are natives, which means you’ll need to learn Amharic and quick, because I have neither the drive nor the patiente to play translator. Am I understood?”
The kids replied with a bored “understood.”
Ikki kept his mouth shut tightly, and his muscles tensed when he saw Daidalos focus his gaze on him, considering him. He raised an eyebrow before going back to poker face. Ikki relaxed just a little.
Adapting is important
Despite having a rough idea of what the place would be like, it still wasn’t worth shit when he had sweat trailing down his face, his eyes unfocused from dehydration and his muscles burning under his training clothing.
“Ikki, dodge,” June, a fellow apprentice, remarked with a mix of worry and annoyance. Today was a day to practice defensive movements, and he even got to practice a little with chains similar to the ones Andromeda’s Cloth had. But it was too hot, and they weren’t allowed many breaks, and just... “Ikki!”
He cursed his weak, mortal body as his mind hit darkness.
June was still there when he woke up, and if his feeling wasn’t off, pressing damp cloths to his forehead. He idly realized he was shaking, and the room was too cold. Abnormally cold.
“I can’t believe you’ve been here for a total of three years and you just came down with a cold,” she said, almost frustrated as she wiped the sweat on his cheeks, “you Japanese really do have a shit immunological system, huh?”
“Not- not words for a lady...” he teased between tremors, knowing how much June hated to be reminded to ‘act like a lady’. As he expected, June scoffed, and even dared to pinch him, covalescent as he was.
“Who cares about being a lady, I earned my place here by being strong, not by being a lady,” she dipped the cloth again and wringed it, placing it again on Ikki’s forehead. “You need to overcome this if you really want to become the Andromeda Saint and meet again with your brother, if what you said about doing anything for him is true, beating a little cold in these conditions should be nothing compared to what you have already endured.
Ikki continued to tremble, not really listening to her because of his fever haze. June sighed and continued to tend to him.
For years to come, Ikki still thanked the support his only friend showed him. If it hadn’t been for her, he probably would have given up on this whole Saint bussiness a while ago.
“Rest.”
Stargazing is fun with friends
On nights when he felt specially lonely, Ikki would get out of his cabin, not minding the biting cold nor the night sounds.
“I used to sit on the roof with Shun, and show him pictures of the universe from atlas books I stole from the old man’s library,” he told June when he felt her presence, a couple of steps behind him. “He was always awed, and so very hopeful. He used to look at the Earth and say: look, from here you can’t see the boundaries between countries, I want to fight so future children don’t become orphans like us.” June sat down, and laid her hear on his shoulder, listening attentive at him pointing out constellations from both emispheres.
This nebula is actually a galaxy
June wouldn’t admit it, but the day Ikki received his cloth she was incredibly nervous. After five or so years of intense training, Ikki not only had become proficient, but also experienced. His training having been guided by Daidalos, Ikki’s fighthing style had become very no-nonsense. His main tactic was turning his opponents offensive against them, and when that failed, use attacks that weren’t too energy-consuming but effective. His fighting wasn’t what worried June.
The sacrifice trial was.
Even if she had little to no doubt that Ikki had enough of Andromeda’s self-sacrifice spirit, there was still a big chance that he would drown when the waves because too savage, or that he would be suffocated against the rocks, or that the cloth could not accept him. After all, even if the lengths he was willing to go for his brother were admirable, there was also some fighter in him, something that refused to be tamed.
So when Ikki had passed the test after a whole day and a whole night of being tied to a huge boulder, June felt light-headed with relief to see him still standing, and proud to be called a Saint.
With a spirit just as strong as his guardian galaxy.
“Excited to see your brother?” Ikki had the certainty that Shun would also get his cloth, and if Ikki had, what was to stop his brother from doing so too?
Ikki smirked, gripping his Pandora box to balance it better on his back. “More excited to show you the shrines in Tokio, don’t think I haven’t seen the pictures in your room.” June slapped him in indignation, but Ikki knew she was glad he had made it out alive, and was finally going to reunite with his brother.
Life is just a mean to a death
Shun had known cruelty since his very early, and very tender infancy. Being an orphan came with its set of harships, and add that to the fact that Ikki always seemed to on edge, it made for living on the streets, running from orphanages like the plague. Until they had been picked off the streets by some men who worked for one Mitsumasa Kido. Ikki had also tried running away, which resulted in near-deat by electrification.
And even through all of this, Shun had had hope for people. Even when he was taunted for being sensitive, even when his brother had been scolding him for not being strong enough. He could count on the fact that the children were like that because they didn’t know better, and adults were burdened with troubles that his childish mind had yet to understand.
“Niisan...”
So Shun had had hope, even on Death Queen Island. Even on that barren piece of hell in Earth.
But his hope had shattered that day, like a fragile flower being stepped on.
Esmeralda had been his best friend, the only hope that he would get out of this godforsaken place and meet his brother again, his almost-twin (not only because of their physical similarities, but because of their similar mild temper and pacifism). She was a slave. Sold by her family for three sacks of rice. And yet she was the gentlest person he could remember meeting.
And now she was gone, just like that.
Shun had known cruelty since early in his life, and just as he had learned to be kind in the face of unjustness, he learned to be angry, hateful. The world had never been kind to him, why should he? (”Do you think you could take me with you once you obtain the Cloth?”)
We’re all insignificants in the big scheme of things, a Monkey King dancing in Budha’s palm
He stared, dispassionately as Jango was lost to the nightmarish visions in his head, his mind broken.
He felt the power in his cloth bristling, along with all the things his master had said before he died.
At least fifty of us, Mitsumasa’s kids, and the bastard sent us to hell anyway...
Unfortunately the old man had died five years ago, so his only choice was to step on his legacy.
“Niisan...” You are his blood too.
“I was sent to take care of the Black Saints because they were becoming a nuisance, but I see you already did that.”
Surprise flashed through his green eyes, a small feel of dread at the thought that someone so powerful had gone completely under his radar. Then he narrowed his eyes, anger flaring out and ready to attack this pretentious man.
“And who are you? Also want to take me on? Phoenix Genma Ken!” Cold sweat dripped down his back when the stranger stopped his technique, the one he had used on some of the Black Saints and Jango, with his bare hands. And then being returned tenfold.
The man gloated, saying how him thinking he was invincible was like the Monkey King who was dancing on Budha’s palm the whole time. Then, when he was at his mercy, Shun asked, “are you going to deliver the final blow?”
If he was to die, he wanted it to be now. It would be an honorable death, defeated by a worthy opponend. A Gold Saint, he had said.
“No,” Shaka had replied. “If I had seen darkness-true darkness-within your heart, I would have no doubt killed you like I had intended the Black Saints. But underneath your hatred, unexpectedly, lays dormant a gentleness and a capacity for forgiveness I have only seen once in all my lifetime.” He seemed to consider something. “No, I won’t kill you. Instead, I’ll wipe any memories you have of me. If we meet again, you’ll remember this encounter.”
What it takes to come alive is purpose
“I want to become a doctor,” Shun said out of the blue. They were chilling in the roof of the Kido mansion, the soft spring air running through his green locks. His face was devoid of emotions, as usual, but there was a unique shining in his eyes that meant, Nachi hoped, a renewed spark of his spirit.
“Yeah?” He asked dumbly. It had been months since Shun was starting to become closer to him. A lot of walking on eggshells, and then wondering is stargazing with him like Shun had told him he used to do with his brother when they were kids was ok, and then wondering if Shun would be completely comfortable with him.
(”It’s okay, stargazing with someone reminds me of better times. Ever since June came to Japan Niisan has become virtually a no-show, so you can come.”)
“I want to help people, and even after my time on Death Queen, I still feel like violence is not the way,” Nachi doesn’t mention that it was this pureness that led him to become Hades’ chosen body, because he envies it. The power he has to forgive, even if not forget. “I also can’t do it here.”
Nachi frowns. “Why not?”
“I already told you the other day at the orphanage,” Shun answered, now facing Nachi. “I need to solve some stuff, get over past shit. Move on.” His gaze was back on the horizon, and Nachi hummed non-comitically before doing the same.
It was Shun’s voice again that broke the silence.
“Seiya told me how you felt.” Nachi’s head snapped to him.
“He-?!”
“Well, hinted it, more like.” Shun shrugged, “I- I need to figure that out, too. I have been too occupied fighting, I never gave thought to that. I haven’t given thought to that with a guy. I need to figure out what it means to me.”
Nachi hummed again, remembering his own epiphany and all the support he had gotten from his friends.
“I also don’t know if you might be my brother.”
A frown settled itself on Nachi’s face. “What? I thought Ikki was your brother...”
“As is Seiya, and Hyoga, and Shiryu... half-brothers, really. Mitsumasa had lots of them kids, and reunited them plus some random orphans to train them into becoming Saints.” “How did you-?”
“Before he died, Guilty told me. To ‘solidify my hate’ or some such thing.” Shun turned to Nachi again, an almost hopeful shine to his eyes. “Will you wait until I figure it out?”
“I- I, yeah.”
Shun smiled. “Thanks.”
They remained in silence, watching the Geminids seemingly fall from the sky.
#ss#saint seiya#fanfiction#my writing#andromeda shun#phoenix ikki#wolf nachi#chamaleon june#following my rarepair dreams like nita told me to#i always like making references to the fact that up until 1925 andromeda was thought to be a nebula instead of our neighbour#again this is very close to the manga#also uh in this au not all 100 children are mitsumasa's kids#because that'd make the seiya/jaby and shun/nachi very awkward#so just like the main five and a couple of others are mitsumasa's kids#i want to save esmeralda but like i don't know what to do with her;;;;;;;;;;;#not so unexpectedly the shun scenes were larger huh#i like really want to go all out and write a huge fanfic for this#like a 100k words fanfic#but im in finals week and about to die#excuse typos#will edit tomorrow if i find any
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Magnolia Blues--Chapter 1: Meetings
Esmeralda 'Jo' Jones is new in town, but has already been building big dreams for herself. Eddie Munson knows that the path in his life leads him to just west of 'Nowhere Fast' as he's no stranger to the circumstances and how they don't always work out for some people. When Jo and Eddie meet, it seems like a spark that may or may not catch. But the slowest loves are the ones that mean and hurt the worst.
Black OC X Eddie Munson.
NOTE: All canonical deaths still stand. The gore is NOT described as the main focus in the romance.
Chapter 2-- Butterflies and Strawberries | Chapter 3--The Vortex Meets a Magnolia | Chapter 4--Action Vs. Reaction | Chapter 5--Sights Ahead: When Clouds Meet The Ground | Chapter 6--Psychic: Damage and Healing (Final Part)
Bonus: Deleted Scenes (Fluff, fluff, and fluff)
Being new somewhere isn’t a bad thing. It’s not even quite a good thing either, in the reality of the larger context. Being new somewhere is not a natural part of life. One could be new to a job, new to a country, new to a state. Newness is simply a part of existence. And yet, as Jo steps through the doors of Hawkins High there is an inexplicable and instantaneous feeling that being new in this town would come with its own price. Heads turn. People’s voices drop. She is new and there is no escaping it.
The pop of her gum echoes and Jo hikes the strap of her bag higher up on her shoulder before turning on her heel to find the office. Lucas watches her go. “If you get lost, I can help!” he hollers.
“Thanks,” Jo shouts back over her shoulder.
It feels silly. The freshman is offering to show her around, but her parents had become friends with Sinclair's parents and Jo had by default become acquaintances with Lucas and Erica. She wouldn’t call them friends, but being of the few black people in the small town, being close and sticky together was a necessity. Granted most of the summer, Jo helped unpack. Occasionally she went downtown. Most of it was hollow. From what she gathered the mall was the reason for the emptiness. But even in the time since she’d moved into two the mall was still under repairs from the fire. In the weeks leading up to the move, Jo had done her best to keep up on Hawkins, Indiana. Occasionally it made headlines--government cover ups, mall fires. It raised her eyebrows but not her parents. Not that she could fault them--the move was to help put her father closer to the new operations center for the distribution center he worked for. It was all someone else’s fault. It was Big Brother, or The Man, or a faulty government taking advantage of a small town.
The office door shuts behind Jo and she shakes her wrist to bring the assortment of bangles down back to their proper position.
“Good morning,” the secretary greets warmly.
“Morning,” Jo returns. “I’m Esmeralda Jones. My parents enrolled me in July. I just need my final schedule.” The sound of her full first name is weird against her ears. No one, not even her parents, called her Esmeralda--save her being in some sort of trouble. She was and is always Jo.
The slender woman in the tweed suit nods. “Of course, of course.” She shuffles some papers on the desk and then unearths a half sheet of paper. “Looks like History is your first class of the day. On the bottom here,” the lady points to the swirled handwriting, “that’s your locker number and combination. It’s in the two hundred hall. Do you want some help finding it?”
Jo shakes her head. “No, I think I can find my way. Thanks though, ma’am. It’s much appreciated.” Jo gives a brief smile and then turns back to the door. The curls--looser than her normal texture thanks to the rod set- lift just a little with the action. Her mother wasn’t fond of Jo’s attempt to replicate a jerry curl on her own, but there wasn’t much to be done about it now.
Jo continues on down the hall and though she does spy Lucas with some of his friends and she thinks she hears him calling for him, she doesn’t stop. She waltzes herself down to her locker number, tries the combination and drops off the spare binders she brought. She slips her schedule into the front of one, beneath the clear plastic so she knows she won’t lose it and then shuffles down to the classroom.
All the while, she feels every stare burning into the back of her neck. Being new, she thinks, will surely prove to be interesting.
Inside the classroom, she settles in the back, leaving a one desk gap. The body that fills the seat on the opposite side of the gap barely risks a glance at her. His head stays buried in his book, the curls acting as a barrier or maybe even a signal to stay away. His fingers tap something out, like a drumline, on the desk as he scans the depths of the pages. Jo slips the bag from her shoulder and takes in the brown curls and silver rings.
“Leather and denim--making a statement, aren’t you?” Jo teases. The warning, she does not heed, mostly because she can’t avoid the obvious counter signal to stand out to be seen.
“Too obvious I know. I scream, look at me. I scream desperate for attention, right?” A soft smile grazes his face as he laughs at his own depreciation. “Eddie,” the boy offers, extending out his hand.
“Jo,” she returns, shaking the extended hand.
Eddie scoffs. “And if you are going to have judgments about my dress, I think your taste in bracelets is blinding to say the least.”
“Say the most then.”
“You too scream look at me. You, too, scream I am desperate for attention.”
“It’s called teenage rebellion.”
Eddie laughs. “And what exactly are you rebelling against? Because from where I’m sitting I think I could mistake you for every girl trying to copy Madonna right now.”
“At least give me Janet Jackson,” Jo huffs in return.
“Fine, since you’re yanking on my leg, I’ll give you Janet Jackson. You look like every girl trying to copy Janet Jackson, Jo.”
“Much appreciated, Eddie.” They only hold the grins for a moment longer before Job starts to dig for a pen in her bag and Eddie slowly gravitates back to the manual in front of him. But he watches, only for a second or so at a time, at the way she slips down into the chair. The way she watches the board like it’s the most interesting thing in the galaxy around them. But Eddie can’t let himself fully admit his intrigue. But he’s pleasantly surprised and he will admit that.
#eddie munson#eddie munson x black female character#eddie munson fic#eddie munson fanfic#eddie munson x black!oc#stranger things#h writes#steve harrington#nancy wheeler#robin buckley#dustin henderson#lucas sinclair#erica sinclair#max mayfield#eddie munson fluff#eddie munson angst
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The Claudine angst as promised
Evie has become known as a healer of sorts on the Isle. At least, kids come to her and the other's hangout; Dizzy when she cuts herself on scissors, Sammy or the Smee twins when there's an accident on the decks, Celia when a scuffle breaks out at the arcade. But typically its just that. Children.
So when Claudine, who is only about seven months younger than her, shows up burned and bleeding, it is a surprise. She doesn't leave her little tower often, aside from her bell ringing. Add on the half-sister thing and that makes for a tense silence as Evie presses a damp rag to the burns (they will scar but they can't do anything else) and bandages the wounds with fabric scraps.
Maybe once, Evie would have all but begged her sister to save herself. She shouldn't have to be beaten within an inch of her life for so called ''sins'' by the maniac who happened to contribute to their existence. Harriet Hook had long since offered for Claudine to stay on the ship.
But Evie had learned long ago the response she would get. Claudine would avert her eyes and speak in her quiet monotone voice. Something like ''Father does it for my sake. I sinned, I must repent, or risk eternal damnation. He only does it because he loves me.''
It frustrates Evie to no end but Claudine would take the anger as against her and begin avoiding Evie. With her already avoiding the world en masse, one beating for something so trivial and minor would be a death sentence. So instead, she finishes her rudimentary ''treatment'', gives her sister a kiss and tells her to stay safe. Despite knowing that Claudine going home makes that nearly impossible
Okay, so this is just really good.
I mean "really good" as in "written well," not "really good" as in "good things happen in here." Because they don't. Thanks, Frollo.
So, Evie and Claudine are paternal half-sisters, with Evie the elder by seven months. Did Frollo not want to keep Evie, or did the Evil Queen refuse to let him have any contact?
Apparently he got Claudine, though. Where's her mother?
Claudine tends to avoid everyone. Probably she's not allowed to talk to them.
Evie treating her wounds with rags and bandages...because that's all there is. No medicine, no nothing.
Evie would avoid Frollo, of course, and he would see her as the child that was his who was....stolen by her evil mother or something, so whenever he saw Evie he would come home and redouble his efforts to make Claudine "good" as though to make up for "failing" Evie.
Frollo would punish Claudine harshly for perceived misdemeanors, yes. I have this headcanon that one time he caught her feeding a cat, and that's wrong! Because cats are servants of the devil and witches' familiars! So they're unholy creatures!
It didn't end well.
And she genuinely believes that she deserves whatever he does to her, that it's all for her own good, because he's drilled it into her since infancy.
Arguably, even he believes this. And he's not exactly going to listen to anyone who questions his parenting methods.
(Burns. I have that headcanon too. This is the man who is obsessed with fire, after all.)
But Evie has to be very careful when speaking to Claudine, because if Claudine decides to avoid her too, then she'll have nowhere to go the next time she's injured, and considering the harshness of her father's beatings, her life could literally be in danger.
(Her father wouldn't intend for that to happen-after all, if she dies before she's fully repented her soul will be doomed!-but even so, he's very strong, and what he considers a suitable punishment...)
Going home isn't safe.
Hopefully once Evie's in Auradon she can pull a few strings, recommend Claudine as one of the next kids to be brought off the Isle. Maybe she can even contact Phoebus, Esmeralda, and Quasimodo, who would no doubt be horrified. They would listen to Evie-after all, she's Frollo's daughter too, even if she wasn't raised by him, thankfully.
Again, this was well written. Thanks for sharing this idea with me.
#claudine frollo#evie daughter of the evil queen#evie descendants#evie grimhilde#judge claude frollo#claude frollo#the isle of the lost#descendants#answered ask#claudine ask
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"Hi, Mom!" Desiree popped into the room, grinning.
Bonny rolled her eyes. "Don't call me Mom."
"But you're a mom now!" Desiree gestured at the tiny baby wrapped up in Bonny's arms.
The baby. She was so small, but so perfect. Only a day old, but with ten perfect fingers and ten perfect toes and the cutest little button nose and a small pink tongue and wisps of dark hair and beautiful blue eyes. Bonny had only been a mother for a day, but she already knew in her bones that she would do anything for her daughter, even die, if it meant one more day, one more hour of life for her.
Bonny shook her head, compartmentalizing the sentimental thoughts. "No one is calling me Mom until the baby learns to talk," she announced.
"So!" Desiree said. She took several folded-up papers out of her pocket. "I have some name ideas."
"You have what?" Jonas sputtered, finally removing his gaze from the baby's face. "We didn't even decide on a name yet!"
"Exactly! That's why I'm here with my suggestions! What do you think I've been doing for the past six months?"
"Making smoke bombs with Celia Facilier," Jonas answered his younger sister dryly.
"That was one time. What I've actually been doing is thinking of good names. Since you haven't, apparently."
"We've been busy!" Jonas objected. "The two of us moved from the other side of the village, we've been discussing joining Uma's crew, I had to save up food for Bonny-"
Food had been scarcer than usual on the Isle recently; Jonas had taken to eating only every other day to make sure Bonny and the child she'd been carrying had enough. Bonny couldn't even protest.
"Well," Desiree said. "She's already a day old and you didn't name her!"
"A day old is not exactly ancient," Bonny noted dryly. "And it's perfectly normal to only decide on a name after a week or so. The Tremaines didn't name their newest little girl for like a month."
"Well," Desiree said again, "I have lots of options for you!" She riffled through the papers. "Well, about half of them won't work because they're boy names." Several papers fluttered to the floor. "Oh well. Of course, if you'd had twins, we wouldn't have this problem."
"Desiree...." Jonas groaned.
"Anyway!" Desiree held up the remaining papers and cleared her throat dramatically. "Desiree Junior."
"No," Bonny and Jonas said at the same time.
"Why not?" From the grin on Desiree's face, she hadn't seriously been expecting them to agree. "Don't you want her to be named after her favorite aunt?"
"You're her only aunt," Jonas said.
"That's why I'll be her favorite!"
Bonny rolled her eyes.
"All right, next name. Amelia."
Bonny looked at Jonas. Jonas looked at Bonny.
"Why Amelia?" Jonas asked.
"Why not Amelia?" Desiree shrugged. "Okay, next. Esmeralda."
"Isn't that the lady whatshisname with the goats is always going on about?" Jonas asked.
"I thought that was the lady whatshisname that judge was always going on about," Bonny frowned.
"I don't know. Oh-the goat guy said we could buy goat milk from him for the baby if we need."
"That's good."
"Anyway!" Desiree waved her arm to get their attention. "Esmeralda? It means "emerald."
"No," Bonny said.
"Emeralds are pretty..." Jonas said consideringly.
"Like you've ever seen one," Bonny scoffed. "Besides, emeralds are green, and nothing about her is green. Her eyes aren't green, and I'm not going to be dressing her up in green all the time so she can match her name."
"Fine!" Desiree squinted at the paper. "Victoria."
"Regal," Bonny noted.
"Too regal," Jonas added. "We're just pirates."
"Elizabeth."
"Also too regal."
"Mary."
"Are you going through the names of all the queens of England or what?"
Desiree threw her arms up in a huff. "Fine, so if you won't listen to any of my suggestions, what are you going to name her?"
Bonny looked at her baby, at her tiny nose and small crescent fingernails and her big, wide blue eyes that stared out at the world curiously.
All she would ever see was the Isle.
Her eyes were deep blue, like the sea, like the sky just before nightfall, like pictures of sapphires.
"Blue," Bonny decided.
"Blue?" Jonas asked.
"Blue," Bonny confirmed.
"Blue?!" Desiree wailed.
(I know you said that Blue's eyes are brown, but A. most baby's eyes are blue when they're born, and therefore B. I figured that Bonny named her Blue for a reason.)
(Bonny was very upset when she realized that Blue's eyes were actually going to be brown. "THEY CAN'T BE BROWN! I NAMED HER BLUE! WELL, I'M NOT CHANGING HER NAME TO BROWN! THAT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS! NO, DESIREE, I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE HER NAME TO SEPIA OR UMBER EITHER! OR DESIREE JUNIOR, FOR THAT MATTER!")
NO STOP THIS IS MAKING ME FEEL THINGS
MY HEART IS DOING STUFF AND I DON‘T LIKE IT
DRAGON WHAT’RE YOU DOING
ARGHGHG
#THIS IS SO SWEET#JESUS CHRIST#NO IM NOT CRYING WHAT DO YOU MEAN#disney descendants#descendants Bonnie#Descendants Desiree#Descendants Jonas#Blue MacMillian/O‘Carolean
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Characters That Inspired Your OC Challenge: A Gif Set.
Character: Vivian Wormwood
Context- When I made Vivian Wormwood, I never really thought of all the popularity she would gain at small and large cons. I wanted to open the door for OC/reader writers/cosplayers/artists, and with it came the second most beautiful character I crafted as a main protagonist for my own original works that only later- tied in with Marvel, Alice In Wonderland and Clamp. She's now on her fourth incarnation as a character with Final Fantasy XV. So what better way to get you guys into the mind of my oc and her history in previous writings than tell you who she was inspired from?
Bayonetta- 'Bayonetta'
When I was working on the renders for Vivian, I wanted a character with black hair. I wanted someone mysterious and otherworldly. Fun fact: when I first made her- Vivian was initally going to be used for a Devil May Cry rp. She was going to be an informant who helped Dante with the underbelly of the underworld.
Bayonetta was a very tongue-in-cheek character. And I wanted a sorceress who was a bit of a tease. You would never quite know if Vivian was straight, but you wouldn't exactly question it. It wasn't uncommon in rp to have Vivian have double meanings to things or gestures and poses that were suggestive. Even her stance for fighting became her sitting on her floating staff. One leg folded over the other and her bare leg popping out of the kimono.
Yuuko Ichihara- 'xxxHolic'
Yuuko has always had a mystery to her. And seeing as Vivian in the Etherium version of the to was magically tied to Yuuko, I wanted her to have some of her features and atmosphere. She's as sly as she is sensual and a tarot no matter what rp/story she's in. And has always had Yuuko's long frame due to this inspiration.
Medusa Gorgon- 'Soul Eater'
Having a character that was nearly neutral, I needed to make sure in a fight where she was an antagonist- she would be very sly and snake-like. I imagined if she was egotistical, she would be like Medusa. The idea for Vivian to have bangles and jewelry also came from Medusa.
Kida- 'Atlantis: The Lost Empire'
Strong, resilient and knowing what she wants, Kida shares a favorite thing I love about Disney- they make their adventurous and outspoken characters have teal eyes. It was only later I realized Vivian has a teal eye in her bi-colored eyes.
Esmeralda- The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Esmerelda's sensual and playful nature and her being a romani was always my favorite. I loved how Esmerelda refused to see Quasi as a freak and how she had those striking teal eyes. It also helped me figure out the views of people in Aeternum and now, FFXV. That tarots were considered blasphemous and like witches. But there is more to Vivian than a nice pair of legs.
Doctor Strange- MCU
Only later did I have it that Vivian- in the Etherium version- not only had magical ties to Yuuko, but Stephen Strange. She practiced magic under him and Stephen became the replacement for the father she never had. This gives Vivian a strong sense of justice and a way with her magic. I picked up the Art of Doctor Strange book to also get an idea of the magical and occult themes that went with him. Vivian's sense of celestial order comes from Strange. As well as many of his hand motions.
Gentiana- Final Fantasy XV
With Vivian now being an oc for FFXV, I realized this meant- as FFXV Comrades tells us- people are made in the image of the Astrals. In Vivian's case, she was made with a bit of Gentiana in mind. Vivian has a duty to not only the king of Lucis, but to aid him in restoring order, but helping him choose that path unbound by the burdens of his destiny. With this comes opportunity to save someone who has been so long considered in FFXV, unable to be.
Ardyn Izunia/Lucis Caelum- FFXV
Ardyn has a lot of theatrical showmanship and slyness I've always liked. You can never tell even at the end- whose side he was on. But in all of it, he was proof the Astrals weren't only cruel and unfair, but could not keep order. He was pure chaos the entire time, and I wanted that to reflect with Vivian as well. A sort of lackadaisical happiness that makes her the bohemian tarot perfect for the Scourgebringer.
Hoping others will do this! I want you to tag me if you take this challenge! Just provide a gif and then tell me what inspired you about them! Don't be afraid <3 I love ocs so much.
Also, if you've got ocs for FFXV, I would LOVE to see you on my discord channel! https://discord.gg/CAYqNBG
#oc challenge#ocs welcome#ocs#my ocs#ardyn discord#ardyn izunia#ffxv discord#ffxv#final fantasy 15#esmeralda#yuuko ichihara#xxxholic#medusa gorgon#medusa#gentiana#bayonetta#doctor strange#marvel#mcu#kida#atlantis the lost empire#atlantis#thats a lotta tags#starscourge#scourge's armiger and trash trove#scourge
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Part 9 Will tries to speak to you
Ava headed down stairs and no one was on the kitchen, she grabbed a couple wine coolers and was about to head upstairs when she heard her name, she stopped in her tracks she knew that voice "How are you?" he asks, Ava shrugged and kept walking towards her room, Will grabbed her arm stopping her "Can we talk?" Ava shook her head "No I don't wanna talk to you" she says before heading back upstairs.
Chloe was showing Ben some videos on her phone and Ava handed them both a drink, "You ok?" she asked Ava, "Will caught me taking these out the fridge" she says, Chloe's eyes widened "He was down there? Did he say anything else?" Ava shook her head "let's go back to your house" said Ava, "Wait why you going over there? You're not sleeping here?" asked Ben, "Just girls night" said Chloe, "Don't leave me with the boring adults, no one is gonna laugh at my boner jokes besides Frankie and he doesn't get here until tomorrow" he says urging them to stay, Ava chugged her wine cooler "Fuck them that's so boring" she says somewhat buzzed, she opened a huge bottle of fireball and chugged half of it, "What in the hell got into you? Save me some you little shit" he says grabbing the bottle from her. Chloe took a swig too "Here's to guys who fuck us over, fuck them.. Not literally but... You know", in walks Santiago " This is where you're hiding?" he asked Ben who was mid chug, "She got mad at my joke it made me feel dumb" he replied "You're really drinking right now? If you puke you're cleaning it up" he says to Ava who was visibly drunk now. Ava started doing a little dance and mocked Santiago "Don't drink you'll throw up blah blah I'm like a mom, I'm Mr bossy pants" she says trying to walk like him "How much did you drink Ava?" he asked concerned, "All of it" she says giggling "Serves him right for making me cry" she says talking about Will "Who?" Santiago asked, "The guy who broke my fucking heart, stupid asshole, why do I love him he's so mean" she says trying to take another drink, Santiago grabs the bottle from her "Keep an eye on her Ben I don't want her acting crazy in front of everyone" he says "Little miss snobby bitch" she says referring to Nora, "Stay in here drink water and lay down" he says ordering her. Ben nodded "Aye aye captain" he says, Ava felt confident enough to talk to Will, heading down after Santiago, "I'm gonna get some.. Wa.. Water" she says slurring her words. Ava waltzed past him giggling, Chloe runs past him trying to pull her upstairs "Come on let's take this upstairs" she says trying to urge Ava to stay quiet "Let me go I wanna go get water" Ava walks in the kitchen to Nora, will and Esmeralda (Santiago's girlfriend also one of her closest friends) "Whatcha guys talking about?" she says with both hands on her hips, "Are you ok?" asked Esmeralda "I.. Am awesome actually I feel like I am awesome" says Ava hooping her on the nose "My brother says I need water to sober up so I won't embarrass everyone and let them know I'm drunk" she said loudly, Esmeralda laughs "What did you drink?" she asked handing Ava a water bottle "Uhmm a ball of fire and a cool winer" she says laughing, "Drink some water babe, I've never seen her like this she's so funny" Esmeralda tells Santiago who was trying to get her to go upstairs "You know what I am staying here to talk to you guys", " Are you old enough to drink?" said Nora snobbishly "Are you old enough to shut your mouth" Ava says to her, Ben starts laughing, "Ok let's go upstairs, says Ben trying to pull her back up with Chloe's help " Let's stay down here and talk to Will, how are you Will, are you happy, with Nora... She wears slip ons, like a grandma " says Ava leaning against Will, "Does she do the reverse cowgirl on you?" she asked him and winked, "Ava!" yelled Santiago "What?" says Ava, "That's personal, and not your business" says Nora who was now upset, "Who the hell are you you just got here, these are MY friends I've know forever, you've been here ten seconds and you were rude to Ben you should say sorry" says Ava getting in her face, "Ok stop it" says Will grabbing her away from her, "Didn't your mother teach you any manners?" says Nora. The room got quiet considering Ava hadn't seen her mother since she dropped her off at her grandparents when she was 7 not coming back. Ava turned to Nora "You shut your fucking mouth" she snaps back, Nora backs away "Obviously she didn't" she says to Ava, "Fuck you" she says to Nora, "She's so mean why are you with this
girl?" she says to Will, Santiago was embarrassed, Esmeralda grabbed him and went to the other room, Ben had Nora walk out with him, Ava started to tear up, Chloe tried to console her, "Stop" she says pulling away, "Chloe can I talk to Ava alone pelase?" asked Will, Chloe shook her head "Fuck no, this is your fault why did you have to bring her here what's wrong with you?" she says trying to walk Ava out, "It's fine Chloe" says Ava, Chloe agreed "If you do anything, I mean it don't try anything" she says to him, "I'm just gonna put her to bed" he says "You're good at that aren't you?" asked Chloe in a rude way before heading outside. Ava had her head down trying not to make eye contact with him, will wiped her face, she shoved his hands away "Don't touch me" she says trying to walk back upstairs when she loses her footing and almost falls down, Will grabbed her "Let me help you" he says picking her up and carrying her upstairs, he shut the door behind him "Are you trying to get us caught?" he asked sitting beside her, "I'm just.. Go away" she says laying down "I'm sorry" he says rubbing her back, "You don't care about her you're just doing this to piss me off" she says crying, "Stop it Ava" he says angrily, "Do you really not feel anything for me, did you even care about me?", " It's not easy to explain" he says, "You're just breaking my heart all over again" she says sobbing "I'm not trying to hurt you" he says. "You just used me until you got bored" she says to him "I didn't use you, I love.. " he stopped when Chloe walks in with Ben, "You ok Rambo?" Ben asked Ava who was now sober at what Will was about to say, "What in the actual fuck" said Ava, "She's fine, get some rest"Will says before walking out. Ava was sitting there mouth wide open " Holy fucking shit" she says to Chloe, "What?" she asked, Ben stood at the doorway, "That was weird, you ok dude?" he asked Ava, she nodded "Give us a minute please" she says to him. Ben smiled and closed the door behind him.
"I think he was going to say he loves me" she says to Chloe about Will" she laughed "You are ballsy for pulling that shit" she says handing Ava some water "He said, I love and then you're dumbass walked in here fucking it up" she said "Well damn homeboy shouldn't be dating anyone if he loves you".
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So, I've been think about this alot. And I do like this take on it. I would just like to share mine with you! ... not that you asked haha
So, the scene before Emerald gently holds the grimm arm as if it is Cinders actual arm. Then, Cinder rips her hand away and says 'you brought me back here!?'
Emerald makes the face after Cinder is tortured with this arm. And she shakingly places her hand in Salems.
So, my take on it was before this moment Emerald hadn't directly seen Salem do something like this to Cinder. So her realization could be serveal things (im gonna add in your take here). 1. She sees that Cinder treats he this way. 2. That Salem is abusing Cinder. 3. That arm is not apart of Cinder it is to control Cinder.
My wonder is will she simply leave Cinder and work through her own trauma or will she try to Save Cinder.
And the reason I think it might be save Cinder is bc of her fairytale. So many believe that its Aladdin. But I saw someone (tumblr or reddit i can't remember) point out that she might actually be Esmerelda. 1. Esmeralda in Spanish is Emerald. Bc of the jewelry she wears. 2. She is a Romanian Gypsies (at least part and definitely raise as one). Which might explain emerald appearance 3. Esmeralda is actually stolen as a child sustrai means (theif/steal) 4. The story is basically about obsessive love follow is obsessed with her, Quasimodo is obsessed with her, and she is obsessed with pheobus (non Disney movie its unhealthy and he only wants to sleep with her). And this last one is the big one.
So yes I know the fairtales don't determine whats gonna happen or whatever. But the fairtales are usually the heart of it. And as much as Aladdin makes sense bc he's a theif. Esmeralda is starting to make more sense, with the name being the same and her being obsessed with Cinder.
But I love your addition so may be she decides to 'save' Cinder. But also, either start demanding more respect from Cinder or leave Cinder after she trys to help her.
One of my favourite parts of this episode is how it plays with the themes of the cycle of abuse, and what it could potentially mean for Cinder and Emerald as characters. I've talked about this before, but Cinder is a version of her own abusers.
The way Salem tortures her before manipulating her with a promise to grant her what she wants . . . that's abuse right there. And this is exactly how Cinder treats Emerald, abusing her while keeping her under control with the promise that Emerald will no longer have to live in poverty.
When I saw this scene, I thought of what it could mean almost immediately. The way I see it, it's Emerald realising that the way Cinder treats her isn't right — it's the same thing Salem is putting Cinder through. And this is why I feel like Emerald is going to break away from her abuser and redeem herself. There's also the fact that Mercury's helped her realise Cinder doesn't care about her.
And you know what? As an abuse survivor, I'm looking forward to where this storyline goes. I want to see more abuse victims redeeming themselves and trying to make up for their mistakes. Sorry, but we're not all perfect and virtuous like fairytales write us. We make mistakes, and we want a message that we can still make up for it and become better people. (That's why I want a Mercury redemption too).
As much as I love tales of corruption and the themes related to the cycle of abuse, I want to see more characters who are abuse victims and become better people. They should be held accountable for what they've done, but that's the point of a redemption arc.
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@ariel-seagull-wings thank you for tagging me.
You're absolutely right. These criticisms are really...bad.
Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome. She fell in love with the Beast after he stopped being abusive. I'm not the first person to say this. Other people have said it too.
Hercules is nothing like mythology, but that's not a bad thing. It's still a good movie.
Aladdin is NOT about how lying is okay. Aladdin is about how lying is wrong, and lying nearly costs him Jasmine's love and Genie's friendship.
I can't really speak about Bambi, as I haven't seen it in years.
The toys in toy story aren't slaves. They have free will. They're allowed to go wherever they want and do whatever they want.
The Beast *does* changes back into a Prince in the end. But it doesn't stop Belle from learning to look past his appearance and loving him for who he truly is.
I can't really say whether the lion king ripped off Kimba the white lion. I mean they have some similarities, but I don't know if that's coincidence or not.
Walt Disney was flawed. And racist. And sexist. But he wasn't a Nazi.
Simba and Nala are not related. This should be obvious.
Shang is bisexual. Heck, his voice actor B D Wong confirmed this. So yes, Shang DOES love Mulan.
Elsa didn't cause all the problems in Frozen. Her parents never taught her how to control her powers. Hans tried to steal her kingdom and kill her and Anna. I'd argue Hans caused the most problems.
Hunchback of Notre Dame *does* have a dark ending in the book...but that doesn't stop the Disney film adaptation from being amazing.
Ok, I hate the word friend zone. Being friends is a compliment! There's nothing wrong with being friends. Esmeralda didn't reject Quasimodo for being disfigured. She loved Phoebus because she spent more time with him. Like @princesssarisa said, Esmeralda loved Phoebus for his sarcastic sense of humour, worldliness and street smarts, and she and Phoebus are the same age. Quasimodo is younger and more naive than her.
Anita and Roger probably never could afford to keep that many Dalmatians. Doesn't stop it from being a good film. Although I do hate how sexist cis men have thrown the insult Cruella at any woman who:
1. doesn't fit white beauty standards, and
2. prefers cats over dogs.
The claim about Marlin wanting Nemo back due to clownfish changing gender in Finding Nemo is ridiculous.
Genocide is always evil.
Ariel sold her voice for a man - um. So what if she did? She loved Eric. Plus she wanted freedom and the right to travel in the human world. She wasn't going to get that from her dad.
Aurora was rather sweet to be honest. And Prince Phillip has a great sense of humour.
Snow White's Prince isn't a necrophiliac. @princesssarisa already explains why in one of her posts.
Phil Collins is never annoying. I love his voice. Next question!
Why didn't Pinocchio save the other kids? Probably because he couldn't? He was just a tiny naive kid who until recently had been a wooden puppet. I wouldve loved to see a sequel where those kidnapped kids were rescued and freed. They didn't deserve to be kidnapped, turned into donkeys, and enslaved for skipping school. NOBODY deserves that.
Peter Pan is not a kidnapper. I'm not discussing this further.
Cinderella can't leave her stepmother house. She was isolated from friends by her stepmother and has no family. She has no money, no education, and if her stepmother evicted her she'd be homeless. At that time period you couldn't just leave an abusive family and get an education to find a job if you were a woman. Women weren't allowed to work back then.
Cinderella's not a gold digger. She went to the ball to get out of the house, and enjoy dancing. The prince wasn't even on her mind!
The Disney Golden Age films - I'm guessing you're talking about old films like silly symphony and steamboat Willie? I'm not sure what's meant by Disney golden age.
Cursed non-criticisms of Disney that need to be dead and buried by 2031, AT LEAST:
“Belle from BEAUTY AND THE BEAST has stockholme syndrome!”
“Disney’s HERCULES is nothing like the mythology!!!”
“ALADDIN is all about how lying is okay!”
“BAMBI is about a dysfunctional household cuz his dad’s never home!”
“The toys in TOYS STORY are slaves!”
“The Beast from BEAUTY AND THE BEAST changes back into a human in the end. So much for ‘beauty on the inside’!”
“THE LION KING ripped off KIMBA THE WHITE LION. They even traced parts of it!”
“Walt Disney was a literal Nazi and admired Hitler.”
“Simba and Nala are probably related.”
“Shang can’t actually love Mulan cuz she’s really a woman and he’s gay.”
“Despite what the film tells you, Elsa actually caused all the real problems in FROZEN.”
“HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME had a super dark ending in the book.”
“Can you believe Quasimodo was friendzoned like that at the end of HUNCHBACK?”
“Anita and Roger would never be able to pay to keep that many dogs in 101 DALMATIANS.”
“Did you know that clownfish change their gender to breed with the less dominant males? Guess we know why Marlin wanted Nemo back so much xD xD xD!”
For more facts and logic check out
“15 murderous, genocidal Disney villains who were right the whole time!"
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