#i think its also a broader discussion of how marvel does things versus DC.
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the-director · 5 months ago
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When will my friends match my freak (read my rambles about how spiderman is the most dynamic superhero when it comes to his relationship to his secret identity, to people he knows in civilian life as well as his villains and how his no kill rule is a paramount thing to his character. And how spiderman is a very interesting contrast to batman. Of how they are so similar but also so different. And how I wonder why specifically people critique batmans no kill rule other than the whole joker red hood conflict.)
Basically I think that it's because
A. Batman is rich, but no matter how much he gives to the community of Gotham the city can never be better because if it does then the story is over. Because Peter Parker isn't rich and is often broke ass poor, he is not responsible for the fuckery that happens in this fictionalized New York.
B. Batmans villains don't seem like they can be redeemed besides poison ivy and harley quinn (or the suicide squad I guess but like they're their own thing, detached from batman to a degree) whereas with Peter Parkers villains, they have origin stories that mostly are just misunderstandings or based on a traumatic event that they aren't coping well with. (My knowledge of Peter Parker villains is limited to Spectacular spiderman, spiderverse and the live actions excluding the last two with tom Holland because I Hate the mcu) I think the main villains that can't be redeemed with Peter are. Norman Osborn just cause he's often so far off in the deep end. But like Doc Ock is primed for it, sandman is understandable, and nowadays venom is pretty much a good guy. Whereas with batman it's just. Off into the Asylum until they break out and kill more.
3. Spiderman has a concrete impact on his world. Now I don't want to discredit batman, because as all superheroes ought to do he does inspire people both in the fiction of his world as well as in real life. But I mean. With spiderman. Were you there when the spiderverse happened? The movement of "anyone can be behind the mask? It was fucking great.
There's probably other reasons, like the tone of their stories, batman stories are often more serious ever since the dark knight. Whereas no matter how dark things get with spiderman he will be cracking jokes (well sometimes he doesn't but yknow what I mean)
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