#i think between the two of them jon has it worse

[visenyaism]

top ten clinically depressed asoiafers

I don’t think anyone ever wrote out the Westerosi DSM but I’ll take a crack at it.

Honorable Mention- Mance Raider and Qhorin Halfhand. We don’t get enough to make a full conclusion because it’s not important to Jon’s story so this is just a vibe but I feel it strongly.

10. Rhaena the Lesbian- like one of two actually great fire and blood characters. Convalescing in Harrenhal for like a decade after her wife left her and her third husband killed all her girlfriends plus she was one dead kid and one dead mother down. Kind of epic. Should have survived long enough to be weird and bitter to Jaehaerys’ insane children.

9. Daemon Targaryen- hey speaking of killing yourself in Harrenhal. Him never being happy with what he had or knowing what he wanted beyond getting his big brother to be proud of him so he just had to constantly chase dopamine in the form of insane levels of violence grooming teenagers and getting his cop frat brother employees to like him for money. Chemical imbalance with a body count in the thousands for his last midlife crisis wife leaving teenager grooming riverlands murder suicide bender alone.

8. Rhaegar Targaryen- Hey speaking of making your clinical depression everyone else’s problem at Harrenhal leading to the death of thousands. Why do people keep letting them do this is the question. Could estrogen have saved her is the second realer question

7. Lysa Arryn. Free her.

6. Daeron the Drunken- what if you were HAUNTED by PROPHETIC DREAMS that were only BAD and spelled the death and doom of your ENTIRE FAMILY and you COULDNT ESCAPE THEM except through SUBSTANCES and you were also the HEIR and your DAD was so DISAPPOINTED IN YOU and you had to take your RUDE and disrespectful plucky BABY KING ARTHUR brother to the CIRCUS and he was TEN and BALD and picked up by the hedge knight you DREAMED OF because he is going to INSTIGATE TO THE ETERNAL MISERY OF YOUR FAMILY a little bit on accident because you are DRUNK. NO HOPE. also honorable mention to post-fratricide Maekar who just locks himself in summerhall for years and post-treason court hostage Daemon II Blackfyre. I hope he and Daeron got brunch.

5. Ned Stark- classic flavor original variant Father Depression. Things went wrong for him young that he will never explain to anyone ever and they form a veil that serves as a barrier between him and the world and everyone he loves. Poor Ned.

4. Stannis Baratheon. Never let himself enjoy anything ever. Melancholy from birth. Rude and extremely blunt with everyone. Smiles twice both at Davos. Anorexic. Bald. Who among us has not been there.

3. Alannys Harlaw Greyjoy- finding out that Theon and Asha have an alive mom who is a gothic horror attic wife who never recovered from the loss of her family to the point that she’s still asking when all her dead and missing sons are going to come home to her and then Theon comes home and does not visit her. Actually agonizing for me the reader

2. Jon Connington- I’m about to get real sincere with these last two because Dance was a really good book that hit at a pivotal time for me. Everything he is in the world to do is motivated by this deep and profound grief and repression that simultaneously makes him a worse person (hungry to commit war crimes) and his best self (dives into the river to save Tyrion contracting greyscale in the process, being as loving and supportive of a father to Young Griff as anyone really could possibly be in this series.) The fact that he is such a late-game addition but feels like a missing piece as a character because of the emotional weight he carries is really cool. I love all his chapters. Tried to grasp a star overreached and fell is so powerful.

1. Tyrion Lannister- I adore his dance with dragons chapters where after his big moment of patriarchal catharsis he is suicidal and misanthropic and an alcoholic and hurting himself and others. It is really compelling because sometimes people get worse. And yet this is interspersed with moments where he is confronted with real genuine danger or real genuine joy and he consistently chooses to be kind to others for no material gain. Like comforting Penny during the storm or tackling a Stone Man into the Rhoyne to to save Young Griff’s life. Arguably these moments do not outweigh all of the harm he is actively inflicting, but they do show that he is incorrect about his self concept that he’s a monster and is actually just a deeply hurt person who has been traumatized so profoundly and is struggling as a result of it.

[briius]

something I see a lot is that ned should have told catelyn about jon’s parentage because then she wouldn't dislike him and treat him well and I think that would be very stupid of him. to truly understand catelyn’s feelings about jon and that entire situation you have to create two groups. one, her own feelings on the matter and two, her thoughts regarding her children. those two categories are separate even though they are influenced by each other. first category:

Many men fathered bastards. Catelyn had grown up with that knowledge. It came as no surprise to her, in the first year of her marriage, to learn that Ned had fathered a child on some girl chance met on campaign. He had a man's needs, after all, and they had spent that year apart, Ned off at war in the south while she remained safe in her father's castle at Riverrun. Her thoughts were more of Robb, the infant at her breast, than of the husband she scarcely knew. He was welcome to whatever solace he might find between battles. And if his seed quickened, she expected he would see to the child's needs. He did more than that. The Starks were not like other men. Ned brought his bastard home with him, and called him "son" for all the north to see. When the wars were over at last, and Catelyn rode to Winterfell, Jon and his wet nurse had already taken up residence.

AGOT Catelyn II catelyn is obviously hurt that ned brought jon home for all to see because it wasn't the custom. it was normal for men to have bastards, especially during war but you did not flaunt them and that was what ned was doing basically. and cat was obviously not too happy with the marriage from the start because it wasn’t brandon and on top of that ned was embarrassing her in front of everyone and she can't do anything about it. of course she is emotional about it which makes her resent jon because she can’t resent ned openly without making her life worse (which is a completely different topic, might go into that in a different post).

Whoever Jon's mother had been, Ned must have loved her fiercely, for nothing Catelyn said would persuade him to send the boy away. It was the one thing she could never forgive him.

AGOT Catelyn II catelyn believes that ned still loves jon's mother deep down or was completely in love with her when they conceived jon which also hurts her deeply because at this point she is completely in love with ned. she feels as if he cares more about his mothers memory than of her and her emotions, because we know from the text that she has tried to send jon away and hasn't succeeded.  second category:

"Precedent," she said bitterly. "Yes, Aegon the Fourth legitimized all his bastards on his deathbed. And how much pain, grief, war, and murder grew from that? I know you trust Jon. But can you trust his sons? Or their sons? The Blackfyre pretenders troubled the Targaryens for five generations, until Barristan the Bold slew the last of them on the Stepstones. If you make Jon legitimate, there is no way to turn him bastard again. Should he wed and breed, any sons you may have by Jeyne will never be safe." "Jon would never harm a son of mine."

ASOS Catelyn V a very important part of catelyn's character is that she cares deeply about her children. she isn't dumb and understand politics very well, she has knowledge about what could happen with succession if its left blurred between the lines. she also understands that jon himself might not be a threat so she could potentially think he is great but it would not matter because his line could be a threat to her children. this is not her being emotional about jon being ned's and the hurt it caused her but her being emotional of the potential harm on her children which is different. now if ned told her about jon's true parentage then category one would be erased that's true. catelyn would not feel any personal hurt by jon or his existence because her husband didnt embarrass her or love another woman. however, category two would increase because the harm jon could cause her family is much greater. ned is committing treason by having jon among them obviously she would care, i believe she would care even more because it affects her children. she would not like jon because instead of resentment towards him, she would be afraid. people tend forget category two which is extremely important in understanding catelyn and her emotions. which is why i think telling her would be stupid because he is kind of saying that their entire family could be killed if people knew.

[annabelle--cane]

I don't really know what this bit is trying to do but they spend a while in the last act of s5 setting up this weird little miscommunication about helen between jon and melanie. in mag 190, when melanie and martin are talking, she brings up of her own accord that helen has turned dangerous and she feels like a fool for having liked her, and martin tells her jon killed helen as a type of reassurance. this conferral of information clearly does not get passed to jon, because when he meets up with basira in mag 195 and tells her that he killed helen, she says that melanie will probably take it badly when she finds out because the two of them were pretty close a while back. finally, in mag 199, melanie says that jon should be capable of killing elias "like he did to helen," and jon clearly starts to respond as though that were some passive snipe that he needs to apologize for before the conversation moves on.

like. what purpose do you think this is trying to serve? the effect is that jon believes, with fairly good reason, that melanie thinks worse of him than she actually does, but I can't place a finger of why. I'm having difficulty scruting it, as it were. thoughts?

[pixiecactus]

there's something to be said about the fact that arya has been told time and time again that her looks and personality are not satisfactory enough to be a lady of a great house. how the willful part of herself has to be erased completely for her to be successfully introduced to westerosi society. she has an enormous difficult time trying to conform and is deemed a failure by her educator.

(fuck you, septa mordane! and also why catelyn never put two and two together over the fact that arya only failed the septa's lessons and not with the other educators when said woman talked only shit about her child; she just went alongside the septa... no wonder that your own child thinks that you won't love her if she happens to be dirty and with her hair messy and tangled enough, catelyn! she thinks that she needs to be deserving of your motherly love. it gets worse; poor arya was so desperately convinced that her mother wouldn't want her back that she accidentally pulled off sections of her own hair trying to comb her badly cut hair. that's a deeply distressed child and it breaks my heart everytime i think about it... as a reader, i know that you loved all of your children, but for fuck's sake, catelyn, you let it get this way for long enough time)

how it's completely insane that arya did never knew how different northern ladies are from their southern counterparts and how she happens to fit perfectly with the former. ned and catelyn went: "southern is the only way to go" in respect to the girls education and called it a day, really.

(my petty ass really wants to write: "ned stark and catelyn tully were really the most southern people living in the north" and "that's what being fostered in the south does to a northern mf")

but even when we have all of this messing up arya's sense of self-worth and self-esteem to a great extent. we still have some of arya's brothers being the biggest arya's supporters that had ever lived in westeros.

said brothers that when they happen to like or admire a girl, they can't help themselves to compare her to their beloved sister arya.

we saw it with jon and ygritte, and with bran and meera, and we could even make the case of rickon with his motherly figure osha if we had more info. and all of them are northern women that didn't get a southern education.

how the stark brothers (yes, jon is included in this group) really love arya for who she already is, to the point that they want to surround themselves with girls/women with a similar enough personality, and that for me is one of the biggest compliments you can give to a person.

also if this post of mine claiming that i can't give catelyn a pass due her treatment of arya, makes people say that i'm misogynist so be it, i'm over it... i was once a child in arya's position with a parental figure that favoured another child, and always made comparisons between us, that made me feel awful, and to this day whenever this person talks to me to let me know that they care about me, and they love me i can't help myself to think that they only do it because they pity me and what became of me and that's a fear and hurt that will never leave me and how this could also be the case for arya growing up since catelyn is dead and lady stoneheart is mostly an embodiment of revenge (i realize that this could imply that this parental figure is transphobic, and meanwhile i have to say that they most probably are since i grew up in a conservative family, they don't know that i've transitioned and i will never tell them either)

[syndrossi]

It's finally spring break. *collapses*

Two questions:

1. What do you do to keep motivated and invested when writing epic long fic?

2. More of a comment, but man, I want Jon and Rhaegar to meet Cregan so bad. Or any child their own age that they aren't related to, really. They need friends. Maybe people start randomly bringing their 8ish year old sons with them when in the capital on business for, you know, absolutely no reason at all. It's not like the childhood friends and companions of royalty grow up with connections and positions they wouldn't have otherwise...

3. I lied, third question. Have you ever read the Tamir Triad by Lynn Flewelling? I feel like you should if you have not. It's a gothic historical fantasy in which a prince is murdered, his sister is hidden in disguise as her dead twin brother and haunted by his ghost (literally) to avoid being murdered by her uncle, and she has to somehow become queen to stop her country from being destroyed by famine, plague and war, all while dealing with the whole raised-as-her-dead-twin-brother thing. Lots of magic and political intrigue and character depth. ✨️ Also, there are dragons! 😉

Welcome to spring break! Hope you get to recharge a little.

For 1, it's usually that I'm as interested as everyone else in reading "what happens next" except I'm the person who has to write it. 😂 But some periods are harder than others. I've been going through some health/injury stuff (the foot is both better and differently worse), which can make the brain reach for more instant-dopamine, distracting activities (like playing games, watching shows, etc). Usually I have to impose some kind of artificial deadline to kick myself out of those funks. I do think a buffer makes things so much easier, which is why I mourn losing mine a while back. It's so much easier to add to an existing chunk of writing than stare at a blank chapter document.

For 2--I expect the sequel to Resonant (and perhaps a shorter story in between) might have more of that, but I definitely could see some scheming lords bringing children of an appropriate age to KL for "networking" reasons. Especially Green-leaning ones, though even Rhaenyra's sons are nearing the age of making lasting friendships. We're a bit at the mercy of the candle subplot/immediate aftermath for the next few chapters, but the harvest festival arc could see more courtly intrigue (both on the eligible-widower-Daemon front, and for members of the nobility who are intrigued about these new princes who both have the king's favor and appear to be important politically for the Free Cities).

For 3, I did read that series, a long time ago! I think it would have been in elementary school, but I loved it. As a kid, I don't think I internalized the "dead brother/twin" angle as much, but looking back, oof.

[sunny-reacts-to-stuff]

tma 39 "infestation"

worms, parasites, gore, physical violence, body horror, trypophobia, uncanny, jumpscares (2m07s, 2m11s, 2m16s, 6m40s, 18m25s), loud screaming, alarm sounds, high-pitched audio interference, being chased, being trapped, getting lost, asphyxiation, abandoned tunnels

i cant believe i am slaying my way through the magnus archives as a scaredy cat

martin being like "right right right right" is so cute from an outside perspective but i would literally kill him myself if i was jon in that moment

where the fuck is tim

also my poor 3/4 archivists im praying for you rn

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" "there we go ^0^" see that's the clervalstein i came in for

"Look, you guys got to go home every day, okay. I didn’t!" my SON TT

HE SAID THANK YOU ????

so sorry jon for saying it would take you until s4 to say please and thank you

"These old files are far better protected than we ever were." the diction of that was peak "im gonna kms"

nooo martin you did great

better trapped than dead?

"why record it" for the memories, sash

he has gotten attached, let him be

gods forbid an autistic guy has a comfort object

Every real statement just leads… deeper into something I don’t even know the shape of yet. -> i feel you jon dont worry

the only difference between you and i is that i have something close to a database and you look like you cant type into a computer

"Only an idiot would stay in this job." says guy that goes to work at 6 am bc he wants to

LET MARTIN (and me) CALL YOU AN IDIOT

waiting for me im coming waaait im coming too

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE USING THE FUCKING TAPE RECORDER BECAUSE THEY JUST MAGICALLY DONT RECORD DIGITALLY AND YOU HAVE WAITED 39 CHAPTERS TO LET ME KNOW THAT

"ITS SOUNDPROOFED" I AM WHEEZING AND I SO SHOULDNT

turn around every now and then i get a little bit lonely

SASHA?

"joe spooky" i fw this guy

I JUST SAID I FUCK WITH HIM.

WHAT.

man.

man.

man.

"it's stupid" "yes. yes it is" jon he just saw his friend (YOUR FRIEND) die can you be nicer

jk i know he's also very stressed

MARTIN GETTING MAD? YES.

please jon. enlighten me on why you started working there. i've been wondering.

out of those 40 i just listened to, at least 80% of them ended with you being "nah why would this be real"

jonathan. i am so sorry i ever was mean to you.

actually i still think you should have been nicer to your co-workers.

but i am sorry about everything else.

this is what i wanted (not the tim part of course) but yes be vulnerable

slowburn and forced proximity the trope you are

couldnt the worms have killed fuckass elias

im so sorry because tim just died but im here smiling like an idiot at these two actually having a conversation

"we’re clearly doing a whole heart-to-heart thing" autistic ass man (just like me fr)

the fuck do you mean "even you must be aware that's not normal"

is martin from london

WAHT.

WHAT.

WHAT.

JON WE CAN'T GO FROM "I DON'T BELIEVE ANY STATEMENT BC IM A WEE LAD AND IM SCARED" TO "AH YEAH MY ROOMMATE MUST HAVE BEEN A GHOST"

HE IS SO OFFENDED LMAOOO

the va's from manchester

elias you're a horrible boss

THE FUCK YOU MEAN "WORSE THAN MARTIN"

MARTIN ISNT EVEN BAD

BURN THE BUILDING

SASHA DONT USE THAT

oh he used to smoke thats why he was so offended when tim asked

"im not a doctor" i say that very often

YOUR ONE REASON TO NOT KILL MARTIN AND JON IS THAT YOU DONT WANNA REHIRE JON?

"so....." sounded so silly

"the window is covered in WORMS" sounded so pinocchio trailer

okay now hug as you die

tim?

"bit light headed, the gas yk" tim you are so funny please dont go bald

DID HE JUST FLASH THEM

"can you walk?" "no" "THEN LET'S GO ^^"

HE WRITES POETRY AND HE RECORDS THEM ANALOGICALLY TO GIVE IT A LO-FI CHARM. JON, IF YOU DONT MARRY HIM I WILL AND IM A LESBIAN

but tbh that sounds a bit suspicious

why are we all giving out our reasons to join the institute

the fuck

DID SHE GET GRAHAM'ED?

DID SASHA GET GRAHAM'ED?

MARTIN HAS WHAT

well. that was everything but fun.

[child0feden]

BLEEDING SORROW

jon nödtveidt x reader

- general dating headcanons for jon!

okay so, before i start this, i should say that there are very few headcanons in this work that mention prison at all! most of these headcanons can be read as dating him pre prison or when he got out! happy valentines day and i hope you like this, anon <3

- requested by anon | view my metal masterlists here and here

reading music recommendations: mistress of the bleeding sorrow by dissection - electric chapel by lady gaga

- jon is an extremely loyal partner! when he loves someone, wether it be in a romantic way or a platonic way or even a familiar way, he truly loves and appreciates that person and will be incredibly loyal to them up until the very end

✩ his loyalty towards you, his romantic partner and someone whose love and appreciation he treasures the most, is so immense and so strong! he is always stuck on you, your support means more to him than anyone elses and he never has eyes for anyone else at all, the only person he ever thinks about doing anything romantic and sexual with is always just you, it will forever and always be just you for jon… it is always you who he strives to please, it is always you who he seeks approval from, it is always you who makes his heart beat faster in his chest… it is always you who makes him feel a type of love that he has never felt before…

- jon is a very soft spoken person in general and this stands even more true with you!

✩ he is quite a conversational man at times and he enjoys talking with you about things! wether it be music or his life or his views on things, he just really likes talking to you and hearing your own opinion on things, he appreciates a partner who can both listen to him speak with an actual interest in his words and a partner who can engage in conversation whilst dipping their own opinions in

- even during arguments, which are very rare between the two of you, jon never even thinks to raise his voice to you… even during these rare arguments, his voice remains calm and soft instead of aggravated and loud! he just never feels the need to raise his voice and yell at you, even if he does feel a slight irritation inside of him from the argument, he prefers to just stay calm and try to get down to the root of it…

✩ he thinks that yelling and anger just makes arguments so much worse and he never feels any true anger towards you at all, which is why any arguments between the two of you almost always end up fizzling out within just minutes and end up with the two of you just talking to each other and working things out through calm conversations about what lead up to the argument in the first place! jon is a resilient man who works through things and pushes beyond troubles, all he ever wants to do is work things out and move forward with you

- but as i said, arguments between the two of you are not very common at all! jon is a calm and a beyond loyal person, as are you, and so there is just never much there to argue about at all

✩ aside from being beyond loyal to you, jon is also quite fiercely protective of you too! he does not take kindly to anyone being blatantly rude to you or anything even like that, he never hesitates to come to your side and tell them off! but to be honest, jon would kind of do just about anything for you and he would do anything to protect you from harm, jon would go down for you if it came to that… he is loyal to everyone who he trusts and who he loves, it goes double for you and he would take a major fall for you if he needed to…

- i feel like jon would always really quite like to hold your hand!

✩ there is no particular major reason for this though, he just likes the feeling of your soft hand in his! wether it be when the two of you are walking down to the small recording studio together or when the two of you are simply sitting at home cuddled up together on the small couch, he will almost always be holding your hand with a tight yet gentle and loving grip…

- he just finds the feeling of your hand in his to be very nice and never gives any other real explanation, he just likes physical contact with you a whole lot but he does not like it to a point where it feels suffocating or overbearing which is why handholding is so nice for him! he gets his dopamine from feeling your skin against his without feeling like he is being a bit too close

✩ and of course, you like holding his hand just as much! jons hands are a little bit warm but not to a point where they make your palms begin to sweat and they are quite calloused but soft too, in their own way! it feels nice to hold his hand, especially when he instinctively smooths over your knuckles with his fingers and gives affirming squeezes to your hand whilst he is in the midst of having a conversation with someone

- another little bit of pda that jon often finds himself doing with you, aside from the usual kissing and general handholding, is wrapping one of his arms around you whenever you are standing or even sitting next to him!

✩ he does this very instinctively too, there is no thought in his mind about if he should do it, he just does it without even realising that he is doing it! every time your body is close enough to him, his arm just automatically moves to slither around your back and his hand settles upon your upper arm before squeezing just a little bit when he feels your body lean further into his side, obviously enjoying the feeling of his arm being securely wrapped around you and the feeling of his fingers running along your upper arm

- when it comes to kissing you in public, i cannot see jon going too overboard with it! he is quite secure in his relationship with you and never really feels the need to shove his tongue down your throat in front of people just so that they know that you are with him, if someone is really testing that then he has other ways of dealing with it rather than just instigating a make out session in front of them… i am not saying that jon does not kiss you at all in public though because he definitely does! he just prefers small kisses rather than over the top make out sessions…

✩ when jon kisses you in public, they are usually very soft and quite quick yet firm little kisses but they do linger on your lips and they do make your heart beat faster in your chest! if the two of you are somewhere a little bit more private like in a recording studio, then he will usually come right over to you during a short break and press a deeper and longer kiss to your lips, swiping his wet tongue over your lips but pulling away with a chuckle before you can even attempt to open your mouth! he can be a bit of a tease sometimes

- at home is where jon likes to make out with you the absolute most! both of you are always the most comfortable when at home in your shared apartment because both of you see it as your home and so make out sessions there just feel so much more real and loving to him than they do anywhere else! he has made out with you back stage before concerts before and of course he really likes that and he will never say no to that but making out whilst laying together in your shared bed as he holds your cheek and brushes your hair out of your face? making out on the couch whilst watching a movie as he holds you in his arms? making out in the shower with your wet bodies pressed together? making out in the kitchen as you sit on the countertop? yeah, he just much prefers make out sessions at home…

✩ make out sessions with jon are actually really quite romantic too! the open mouthed kisses between the two of you are often slow and appreciative, jon loves to glide your warm tongues together and feel your spit mingle with his own, the two of you are always pressed so close together and his hands love to roam your body but not in a way where it just feels like he is copping a quick feel, when his calloused hands roam your body and caress you through your clothes it feels more like he is studying your body and appreciating all of the natural curves and dips! when his hands roam your body whilst your tongues are tangled together, it feels less like a grabby guy and more like a man who is appreciating every part of you there is! his hands are always so slow and soft as they adventure across your body, his fingers are always so gentle when they dip under your clothes and make direct contact with your skin

- if his hands are not roaming your body during a make out session for once, then there are only two other places that they will be!

✩ one, they will be cradling your face in his warm hands as he caresses your heated cheekbones with his thumbs and presses his open mouth even further against yours

- two, one of his hands will be shoved down into your pants and the other will be holding the side of your neck with a soft grip as you writhe and moan into his mouth from just what his calloused fingers are doing to you

✩ and when you run your hands through his hair during make out sessions? oh he adores that so much! he adores when you bring your soft hand up and tuck some of his long brown locks behind his ear for him

- honestly he just loves when you touch his hair in general though! wether it be just brushing some of the long strands out of his face as he writes down some lyrics whilst sitting next to you on the couch or helping him wash it as the two of you shower together in the morning, your fingers running through his hair is something that he loves to feel, it makes his brain feel fuzzy… especially during sex too, he has a bit of a thing for hair pulling, just a little bit… he definitely does not let out soft little moans into your mouth if you give gentle tugs to his long hair whilst making out too…

✩ jon is already very soft on you in general but when he has just woken up in the morning? oh wow, he is just such a total sweetheart!

- if you wake up before him and carefully raise yourself up from your position of being curled into his side with your head laying upon his chest, you will have to take a short minute or two to just admire how peaceful and soft he looks in his sleep! his face is always so relaxed and his long hair is always a bit of a mess as some strands are laying on his forehead and across his cheeks and his nose often twitches ever so slightly in his sleep… there is nothing jon loves more than waking up to the feeling of you brushing your hand across his cheek and pushing some of his messy hair out of his face for him, it always makes him wake up with a soft smile on his face and it always makes him let out a deep morning chuckle when he feels you lean down to press a gentle kiss on the top of his nose…

✩ mornings with jon are always slow and peaceful and he loves them that way! he loves just holding you in his arms as your legs are tangled beneath the blankets and your head is resting on his naked chest, he loves running his fingers along the warm skin of your back as you engage in a tired conversation about what your plans are for the day and if he has anything in particular that he needs to do!

“ think i have to go back into the studio today, sötnos… need to re-record something, i don’t like how it turned out… you can come with me, if you want to that is ” ( his morning voice is always deep and kind of gruff and his accent is even more noticeable than usual! his morning voice sounds like sweet sugar to your ears and it makes your chest feel so warm when he speaks to you, especially since you can always tell just by his voice that he is never in a rush to get out of bed and leave your side )

- sometimes jon wakes up in the morning with a whole lot of inspiration for music already swirling in his mind after getting such a peaceful sleep beside you and so he will usually have a small notebook that he keeps on the small table on his side of your shared bed! whenever he wants to write some lyrics down, he will just reach over and grab the notebook along with a stray black ink pen before scribbling down the lyrics he had in his mind all whilst keeping you held comfortably in his arms at the same time

✩ if he is ever indecisive about wether or not a lyric he has wrote down is all that good, he will usually let out a deep sigh through his nose before mumbling the lyric to you and asking you what your thoughts are! he knows that you will always be honest with him and he always finds your opinion to be one that he can often agree upon the most and appreciate too

“ hm… what do you think, sötnos? is that very good at all, or not so much? ” ( despite still being kind of groggy and so obviously freshly awake from a deep sleep, he always manages to write the most beautiful things and you always tell him that! and he will never get over the heat he feels spread across his cheeks when you praise his work, he will always just press a soft kiss to your head and thank you for your words before throwing the notebook aside and tightening his arms around you )

- jon likes it a whole lot whenever you can come to the recording studio with him! he never sees you being there as a distraction or anything like that, in fact whenever you are there he actually feels even more inspired and even more encouraged to perform even better than he usually does! whenever you are sitting there in the recording room, even if you are doing your own thing and not watching him, he feels a stronger urge to push himself to play the best he can or push his voice to the limit the most he can

✩ i mean, he loves playing his guitar for you in general but in the studio? even more so! in between breaks he will always come and sit next to you with his guitar still in hand as he asks you if you would like him to play something for you, likely already having a whole bunch of your favourite songs memorised in his head

- his guitar is a major comfort and a huge passion for jon, always has been and always will be! mixing his love for guitar with his love for you and being able to make you smile by playing one of your favourite songs as you rest your head on his shoulder? call him a total sap but it makes him very happy

✩ please kiss his little neck tattoo from time to time!

- jon is not like, a super sub or anything like that but when you kiss his small neck tattoo? oh it makes his heart feel like it is about to burst out of his chest, the feeling of your soft lips pressing against the sensitive skin makes his breath catch in his throat and somehow almost makes his eyes roll back into his head…

✩ if you even give a teasing little lick to the ink marked skin? oh he just absolutely loses it, it feels so good and he loves it so much! he especially loves when you lean down and deliver a kitten lick to the tattoo as you are sitting atop of him in bed whilst he is laid flat on his back under you, feeling the warmth and slight wetness against his sensitive skin as you trace the three black numbers with the tip of your tongue is enough to make his eyes roll back and his mouth drop open to release a deep moan as he feels lower area grow fever hot

“ oh, sötnos… jäkla… that feels so good, please… ” ( his voice gets so deep, quiet and breathy when he is turned on! sometimes you can barely even make out what he says due to how quiet and low his voice goes along with how much stronger his accent becomes! he can never hide it when he is turned on due to the change in his voice and how his blue eyes darken and seem to cloud over before fluttering shut )

- honestly all of his tattoos are very much sweet spots for jon though! if you caress any of his tattoos, wether it be with your tongue or just with your fingers, he is guaranteed to feel a heat bloom down below and a slight warmth spread across the plains of his face

✩ whenever he goes to get a new tattoo, he often likes to take you along with him to the studio! he appreciates getting your opinion on what new tattoo he should get and where he should get it, your advice and your opinion is the one he looks out for the most and he certainly appreciates the comforting kisses you press to his lips whilst he is in the midst of getting his skin inked with the tattoo gun

“ what do you think, sötnos? does it look good? i hope so… you see my body the most so… ” ( the smile he has on his face whilst saying this is big and wide but cheeky and almost excited! and in fairness, it is true! some of his tattoos are in places that only you see the most so he only ever gets tattoos that you like too, because you will be seeing them very often )

- speaking of tattoos, jon will probably end up getting a tattoo or two dedicated to you somewhere on his body after the two of you have been dating for quite a while and he knows that you are definitely the one! the tattoo itself will probably not be too huge in size but what the dark black ink in his skin depicts will be something that means a whole lot to you and has major significance to you, it will be something that he knows means a lot to you and it will be something that reminds him of you every time he sees it when looking at his own reflection in the mirror

✩ and most likely, he will get at least one of these tattoos placed directly over his heart… because jon always holds you close to his heart, he holds everything about you so close to his heart… his heart beats the most just for you and everything that is important to you…

- whenever he has the time, jon likes to take you on cute little dates! and even if he does not really have the time to spare, he will make time for you! you are important to him and he will never let that go unknown for the sake of making some music! there has been very few times when jon has actually listened to you and just postponed a date so that he could go into the studio and record more music with the rest of the band instead

✩ dates with jon often take place in quite desolate places like fields or cemeteries, he likes to take you out there and just sit underneath a tree with you whilst having an arm wrapped around you and letting you lean into him with your head resting on his chest… he likes to be alone with you on these dates with no one else in sight because it just feels more romantic to him, with it just being the two of you having the surrounding nature all to yourself with the freedom to talk about anything and do whatever you want! and he makes sure that he has the whole day to spend with you on these dates, he does not intend to leave until the two of you have watched the sun set from over the hill whilst sitting underneath the shadowing tree as his hand strokes your arm and the two of you share deep kisses under the golden rays… if you ever get a bit cold in the wind, he is more than happy to hand his black leather jacket over to you and if you get a little uncomfortable sitting down on the ground, he is more than open to letting you make yourself comfortable atop his lap instead…

- the two of you have probably definitely ended up having some very romantic, loving and long lasting sex on those dates too! i mean, how could you not? you are alone together underneath a tree with the shadows of branches projecting against the ground with golden rays of the setting sun shining against your skin and giving your body a slight warmth in the breeze! it is always too perfect

✩ you always lose yourself in admiring him, in admiring the way his long brown hair shines in the sun and the way his beautiful side profile is highlighted to you thanks to the light and jon always loses himself in admiring you, in admiring the way your eyes sparkle under the light of the sun and the way your lips seem to be stuck in a gorgeous little smile! so of course it never takes long for the two of you to engage in sweet kisses that turn deeper, and then those deep kisses lead to wandering hands and then those wandering hands lead to the shedding of clothes and there is just no sight in the world that jon loves more than your naked body as it is bathed in a natural golden light

- another type of date that i feel like jon would like is taking you out bowling from time to time! i just feel like he would find it kind of fun and it makes him smile a whole lot when he hears you laugh whenever you see him completely miss hitting any of the pins with his ball… he gets very playful with you on these fun type of dates and the two of you will be laughing so much together, your cheeks will probably hurt from how much smiling the two of you do… even when he finally gets a strike and laughs before taking you into his arms and kissing you in celebration, the two of you still have little smiles on your faces as your lips are pressed together in an innocent kiss…

“ ah! i finally got a strike, huh sötnos? no more laughing at me now, hm? ” ( he tries to say it in such a serious tone as if he had not also been laughing along with you every time his ball missed the pins, not only that but the big smile painted across his face and the way his hands are holding your waist so gently prove that he is obviously just kidding around with you and he could not be serious if he tried! hell, he will mess up every one of his goes on purpose if it makes you laugh )

✩ when he is in prison, he is always thinking of you and he is always wishing that he could just be with you! you are one of the things that he misses the absolute most when he is serving time

- if you broke up with him after he was sentenced, he would be absolutely heartbroken but i feel like in some way, he would understand? and in a strange way, he would accept it? i mean, he would definitely feel kind of angry and almost betrayed at first but that would be due to just how overwhelming everything was for him at that time… and over time, he just understands and accepts it the best he can! he loves you more than anything and he understands, he understands why you just cannot wait so many years just to have your boyfriend back by your side and he understands how hard it is for you to go through it all alone… so yes, he would be beyond heartbroken and you will forever be his true love but he understands and he only ever wants the best for you, he only ever wants you to be happy and feel loved and he only ever blames himself for not being able to provide you with the love that he once could…

✩ but if you stay in a relationship with him even after he has been sentenced? your calls, letters and visits are what really keeps him going and he looks forward to them more than anything else! he loves when you come to visit him and tell him all about what you have been up to and how much you have been missing him, he loves when you visit him and he gets to feel your soft lips against his once again, he loves when you send him letters and spray them with small spritz of your perfume or your cologne so that he will have something that smells so much like you with him

- being with you feels like his biggest victory in life! just being in your warm company, being able to love you so fully and always appreciating you and feeling your own true love for him and knowing your real support for him, jon always felt like if he died right there surrounded by your love, he would die happy and content <3

[th3lightyougaveme]

okay hi. for the ten billionth time. still thinking about jontim so im going to link them to the other fears they encountered because. augh:)

i think the spiral and the stranger have the strongest affect on both of them. the fear that the world you know is lying to you and that something isnt right being the ENTIRE REASON jon does the things he did in s2. and obviously on tims end of things he loses both sasha and danny to the stranger and its the entire reason hes at the institute to begin with. onto the actual like. connection part

the spiral can be tied to the lack of trust between the two. jons in s2 with again. the whole stalking thing and outright SAYING he cant trust anyone. and tims in s3 when jon starts to know things. the entire creeping sense that neither of them can trust each other anymore for entirely separate reasons is VERY spiral to me.

the stranger can also be linked back to how tim VERY clearly starts to think worse of jon once his connection to the eye grows stronger. the uncanniness of something wearing your ex friend's face and having it pity you. having it apologize over and over and having it say it doesnt want to lose you. believing so thoroughly that this isnt who they were that something isnt right.

and while it isnt DIRECTLY stated that tim ever encounters the desolation IM counting the explosion as an encounter because of how well it fits. the loss jon has to deal with when he gets out of that coma, the pain of knowing that tim is dead and that he was never forgiven, tims self destructive tendencies leading to his literal end and the destruction of something greater than himself. he destroyed with a cause, sure, but it fits so WELL otherwise.

and of COURSE the eye fits them. obviously it fits everyone. the desire to know more about each other. and the different ways it manifested. tims through concern that he hid behind anger after a while, jons through paranoia and stalking and compulsions. having secrets exposed, brought into the light, and the effect that had on both of them. jon getting a form of relief and it only strengthening tims distaste towards him.

broi have so many thoughts IMSORRY

[hauntedcoyote]

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rules: talk about something creative you're working on of any kind.🚦 green: what is it about, what excited you about it, what sparked the idea? orange: slow down and share something from it: a photo, a few words, some more background info etc. red: what is the roadblock currently? what is one thing that is a necessary evil in making it?

GREEN

The basic idea for "Love Is A Many-Splintered Thing" came from the February prompt of the Year of the OTP Challenge. I wanted to write a small one-shot but one of the prompts I wanted to do required a third person... At the same time, several of my mutuals were creating different JonElias polycules all over my dash, but none of them sparked enough interest in me to write about them myself. However, being the local Jonah-whore that I am, there soon was the idea of "what if there's time travel?". What if it's post-MAG200? What if it's an AU? Which is how we ended up with Regency Era Jonah/Jon/Elias. I began to write and one scene became two became three became ten... until I realised "oh shit, there's a plot". And character exploration. And that's what it ended up being: a multi-chapter beast with more plot than porn.

One thing which I absolutely loved about it right from the beginning was the idea of Jonah having to confront himself at another stage in life. On one hand we have this walking Ship of Theseus that is Elias and on the other a young Jonah still on his way to avatarhood. It's also fun to explore the parallels between Jonah and Jon more. Especially since they all can be so weird about each other <3

ORANGE

Fun facts about marks:

With Jon basically having gotten a "new" body, some of his more physical marks faded and need renewal (just to be sure, really - they're actually fine). These are mainly the ones of the Corruption, Desolation, and the Hunt.

Elias was marked by the End during Mag200.

AU Jonah has a fresh mark of the Corruption.

Here is one of the snippets which were written first:

Jon buried his hands in the auburn locks of Jonah, mewling softly into the kiss. A familiar tingling ran up his spine, causing the hairs on the back of his neck to stand up. The power of the Beholding was still strong, but he didn’t think that it was coming from Jonah. No, someone else was enjoying their little show. Jon pulled away from the kiss, his cheeks flushed from the alcohol and Jonah’s proximity. ‘I’m not sure about this…’ Jon began but it was already to late as he felt the couch dip behind him. ‘It’s okay,’ Elias muttered, wrapping his arms around him from behind. ‘I… uh…’ Jon stammered but both of the men were already covering his neck with gentle kisses. Elias had pulled him close in a possessive manner while Jonah was gently rubbing along his sides. ‘Just tell us when you want to stop,’ Jonah sighed against his skin. Jon squirmed against Elias in discomfort. The thought that he could stop at any given time made this all worse, because he didn’t want to stop. Elias gently turned his face towards him and pressed his lips against Jon’s while Jonah began to unbutton Jon’s waistcoat with skilled fingers.

RED

My main roadblock is my work and me being constantly tired as soon as I get home. My schedule is all over the place, shifting from early morning (5AM) to late evening. Not only does this majorly mess with my sleep schedule, but I also do a lot of physical work and... I'm exhausted when I come home, which is why I waste most of my free time scrolling through tumblr and listening to the same five songs on YouTube while feeling bad for not writing. When I am writing, I feel bad for neglecting my other projects. I'm behind on three self-imposed deadlines as it is right now. Unread books keep piling up on my table along with DVDs, TTRPG notes, and material for book binding. On my days off, I tend to get some cleaning and gardening done. My weekends tend to be for meeting up with relatives and friends. Most of my writing gets done sometime during the week between 10PM and 1AM when my house becomes quiet and my thoughts start to sort themselves at last... It would really be nice if I could just sit down and write.

One necessary evil while writing this story is calling our Jonah Elias in the narration for distinguishing reasons. The alternative would be Jonah Jonah Jonah Jonah all over and, honestly? *long sigh* No.

I was tagged by @distracteddream thank you!

No pressure tags @cwritesfiction @tea-moth11 @buried-in-the-archives @beheldandcompelled

[eruherdiriel]

Something I've been thinking a lot about lately is how Jon knows what it's like to be burned. With his hand, he doesn't feel it in the moment but that's probably adrenaline more than anything else.

"You do not look well. How is your hand?" "Healing." Jon flexed his bandaged fingers to show him. He had burned himself more badly than he knew throwing the flaming drapes, and his right hand was swathed in silk halfway to the elbow. At the time he'd felt nothing; the agony had come after. His cracked red skin oozed fluid, and fearsome blood blisters rose between his fingers, big as roaches. "The maester says I'll have scars, but otherwise the hand should be as good as it was before." "A scarred hand is nothing. On the Wall, you'll be wearing gloves often as not." It was not the thought of scars that troubled Jon; it was the rest of it. Maester Aemon had given him milk of the poppy, yet even so, the pain had been hideous. At first it had felt as if his hand were still aflame, burning day and night. Only plunging it into basins of snow and shaved ice gave any relief at all. Jon thanked the gods that no one but Ghost saw him writhing on his bed, whimpering from the pain.

-AGOT, Jon VIII

And then there's the scene of his wound getting cauterized. Which, yeah, he's otherwise injured and just escaped the wildlings, experiencing a lot of physical pain and internal turmoil, etc., etc. Still:

Maester Aemon sniffed Jon's wound again. Then he put the bloody cloth back in the basin and said, "Donal, the hot knife, if you please. I shall need you to hold him still." I will not scream, Jon told himself when he saw the blade glowing red hot. But he broke that vow as well. Donal Noye held him down, while Clydas helped guide the maester's hand. Jon did not move, except to pound his fist against the table, again and again and again. The pain was so huge he felt small and weak and helpless inside it, a child whimpering in the dark. Ygritte, he thought, when the stench of burning flesh was in his nose and his own shriek echoing in her ears. Ygritte, I had to. For half a heartbeat the agony started to ebb. But then the iron touched him once again, and he fainted.

-ASOS, Jon VI

This doesn't even touch on how he feels about the R'hollor crew and stories of people intentionally being burned. Whether he's there when King's Landing burns or hears about it, he will be able to empathize with the people of the city. There will be survivors, some with burns like on his hand and some with way worse. There won't be enough milk of the poppy for everyone. There will be men, women, children, soldiers, civilians, and old people burned and screaming in pain. Before KL burns, Jon will have heard about the other places DT has been as well. They're not gonna be pals.

But there will be conflict in his interactions with DT. Jon fiddles with his hands when he's conflicted or distressed:

Jon's breath misted the air. If I lie to him, he'll know. He looked Mance Rayder in the eyes, opened and closed his burned hand. "I wear the cloak you gave me, Your Grace."

-ASOS, Jon II

Lots of examples from AGOT, when his hand is still freshly burned and in more pain:

"Grief and noise," Mormont grumbled. "That's all they're good for, ravens. Why I put up with that pestilential bird … if there was news of Lord Eddard, don't you think I would have sent for you? Bastard or no, you're still his blood. The message concerned Ser Barristan Selmy. It seems he's been removed from the Kingsguard. They gave his place to that black dog Clegane, and now Selmy's wanted for treason. The fools sent some watchmen to seize him, but he slew two of them and escaped." Mormont snorted, leaving no doubt of his view of men who'd send gold cloaks against a knight as renowed as Barristan the Bold. "We have white shadows in the woods and unquiet dead stalking our halls, and a boy sits the Iron Throne," he said in disgust. The raven laughed shrilly. "Boy, boy, boy, boy." Ser Barristan had been the Old Bear's best hope, Jon remembered; if he had fallen, what chance was there that Mormont's letter would be heeded? He curled his hand into a fist. Pain shot through his burned fingers. "What of my sisters?"

-AGOT, Jon VIII

When Jon had been Bran's age, he had dreamed of doing great deeds, as boys always did. The details of his feats changed with every dreaming, but quite often he imagined saving his father's life. Afterward Lord Eddard would declare that Jon had proved himself a true Stark, and place Ice in his hand. Even then he had known it was only a child's folly; no bastard could ever hope to wield a father's sword. Even the memory shamed him. What kind of man stole his own brother's birthright? I have no right to this, he thought, no more than to Ice. He twitched his burned fingers, feeling a throb of pain deep under the skin. "My lord, you honor me, but—"

-AGOT, Jon VIII

Jon raised the hood of his heavy cloak and gave the horse her head. Castle Black was silent and still as he rode out, with Ghost racing at his side. Men watched from the Wall behind him, he knew, but their eyes were turned north, not south. No one would see him go, no one but Sam Tarly, struggling back to his feet in the dust of the old stables. He hoped Sam hadn't hurt himself, falling like that. He was so heavy and so ungainly, it would be just like him to break a wrist or twist his ankle getting out of the way. "I warned him," Jon said aloud. "It was nothing to do with him, anyway." He flexed his burned hand as he rode, opening and closing the scarred fingers. They still pained him, but it felt good to have the wrappings off.

-AGOT, Jon IX

Not until he was well beyond the village did Jon slow again. By then both he and the mare were damp with sweat. He dismounted, shivering, his burned hand aching. A bank of melting snow lay under the trees, bright in the moonlight, water trickling off to form small shallow pools. Jon squatted and brought his hands together, cupping the runoff between his fingers. The snowmelt was icy cold. He drank, and splashed some on his face, until his cheeks tingled. His fingers were throbbing worse than they had in days, and his head was pounding too. I am doing the right thing, he told himself, so why do I feel so bad?

-AGOT, Jon IX

[satinoflowers]

Hey! What are your thoughts on Satin being a Reach lord’s bastard? I think GRRM kinda left it open for himself, but there’s seeds of being a lord’s son for sure. Or do you have other theories?

Thank you so much for the ask!! <333

Textually theres a decent amount of suggestion to me that satin is a lord's son. He uses the formally educated "my lord" instead of the common "m'lord" when addressing jon, which rly stands out to me as grrm seems to be consistent with this. Satin is a crackshot with a crossbow despite minimal training, and i like the reddit user muflonlesli's point about tyrion's line about "i never thought to feed the fire, that had always been a servant's task" in regards to satin not being as diligent with lighting jon's. That one always stuck with me because as fanficable that that character trait is within satin, in the context of the chapter it does seem a strange bit of coloring to add. Satin is proved diligent, so by pointing out his negligence in that aspect i think grrm is purposefully and specifically hilighting it.

One of my favorite hints to him having the surname flowers (which is an incredible reach and is so so sodelusional of me. I mean seriously take this with a pound of salt) is the line from acok, dany iv where she has the vision with the "sweet-scented blue flower growing from a chink in a wall of ice"... hear me out, instead of having blue roses be represntative of lyanna, think of them as being a symbol of love within lyanna's line. If r+l=j and satin SPECIFICALLY has a line about the "sweet-scented oil" being registered by jon in the godswood on an icy day,, satin is the sweet smelling blue FLOWER (bastard surname in the reach) and jon is courting him just as rhaegar courted lyanna. And if u think about it. Jon does need a nyssa nyssa so like how far of a reach would it be to say that by comparing jon+rhaegar and their need for a cute person to fulfill a prophecy,, u get sweet smelling satin flowers???🤪🤪🤪

Realistically i dont think theres much of anything to be gained by having him be a lord's bastard, though. It serves as explanation for his mannerisms and character traits for sure (theres also the littlefinger's spy theory but again i dont see the need for him to have one that far from kl and having nothing to do w the current events in his story. Maybe he is a jonsa stan idk) but... the only addition would be to his role within the story on a meta level, if grrm is hinting at a parallel between satinjon and another pairing of characters, which is rife with opportunity for sure.

One more thing to add would be that since empathizing with and aiding those in marginalized groups/ different walks of life from jon's own is so vital within his story (including satin being a prostitute), having satin be a fellow bastard in a much worse position than jon would be a decent addition. Does that set jon up for empathizing with those whose bastard-ry leaves them in positions in which they must make (in jons judgement) immoral choices? In satins case, prostitution, but in aegon vi blackfyre's case? If satin is as important to jons story as i hope he'll be, then a conversation/ philosophic monologue in a jon pov about discrimination being different across class division with those two could be poignant in regards to jons development and future actions.

[pumpkinstrawbrew]

How do you think the Rogues feel about Scarecrow being in a relationship with Batman?

hm, it will slightly depend on if jonathan is still remaining a full-blown villain, who have the whole ‘forbidden love’ thing with the bat, or if he was redeemed *i use this word loosely, mind you* an’ now pretty much hangs out with batman almost all the time, while also acting as batfamily's creepy, ex-convict step-dad. 

i will start with the second scenario, bc it’s the most straightforward one. but in there most rogues will pretty much see right through crane an’ know, that he’s not really changed. he merely toned some things down *basically, he’s forced to follow no kill rule too*, an’ while i think that they might try an’ use this against batman, to kinda shatter his beliefs when it comes to jon, the thing is … that bruce also knows it. he’s not that naive to think, that his love suddenly made crane empathic or caring. but jon having empathy an’ care for bruce, pretty much makes him act the part, where he won’t go out of his way to harm others. or at least, he won’t be as careless about it as he used to be. so when the manipulation tactic fails, the question raises. since if scarecrow didn’t worm his way into the bat’s heart an’ bed via lies, then how in the world did he even get there? 

if one look at batman an' scarecrow's relationships from a very surface level point of view, naturally, them getting together would seem baffling. but it's not what drives everyone onto the wall. it's exact fact, that despite their inability to understand 'whys' an' 'hows', all of this is clearly genuine.

therefore, the most devoted *an’ unhinged* of batman’s rogue-simps will be enraged an’ jealous by proxy. bc how come that it’s this scrawny strawgoblin, who landed himself a man like batman, an’ not them, who are clearly hotter / smarter / have ‘more in common’ with the vigilante an’ so on? to some of them, it's like slap to the face. an' no one takes it well, of course lol.

some take it worse, than the others tho. like, batman would have to make sure to not take scarecrow on the missions, which have anything to do with riddler or poison ivy. bc the first one will always end up in nerd on nerd violence. it’s like a battle between two gay reddit incels, where each party thinks that they are intellectually superior. an’ the second one can pretty much result in crane an’ pamela poisoning themselves an’ the whole gotham as result of their chemical warfare on one another, simply bc of the way ivy’s gimmick works. like whatever she has a thing for batman or not, her whole seduction schtick would make her actinons around bruce unacceptable for jon. an’ while it’s not super important here, i hc that poison ivy an’ scarecrow typically unaffected by each other’s toxins. at least, when it comes to how they are intended to work on a normal person. but they still can really mess one another up via it, since jonathan is allergic to some flowers an’ certain versions of his ft can actually harm ivy, as they can be considered being poisonous for plants in general.

in comparison to this, there also will be some rogues, who won’t care too much about any of this. bane prob won’t give a damn, either way. or man-bat. or clayface an’ so on. like for some of batman’s rogues, scarecrow’s involvement with the vigilante doesn’t really change much. not when it comes to how they view either of them. it’s more of like ‘oh, okay. kinda weird, but whatever’. i guess, their disbelief would also come from a place, that jonathan not exactly attractive nor esp nice or pleasant, when it comes to personality. at least, from how they know him. so for them, it just means that besides batman’s little bat-brats, they will also have to deal with this ‘new addition to the family’ in the face of scarecrow now. bc batman is addicted to picking up 'strays' or smth lol.

there are also be cases more specific such as the ventriloquist, who would actually be glad for crane as they are on more or less 'friendly terms' *saying this with tongue in my cheek*, meanwhile scarface will be low-key grossed out an’ state that he always knew that crane was a queer, but was surprised that batman is one too. bc what can you do, he’s one old fashioned bigoted dummy lol. harley *BTAS one* would be ecstatic about it, finally she will have someone she can talk about ‘boys’ with! bc ivy doesn’t do it with her lol. an’ speaking of BTAS, the mad hatter from that universe prob will feel low-key betrayed by crane, since he assumed like they were pals *they were not* an’ that jon might have sympathized with his story *he did not* an' now look at him. there he is, sucking face with the man, who jervis thinks ruined his life, even tho, he ruined it himself lol. basically, while some rogues might think that it's good to see jonathan finding love, others will think that he's a total asshole for not caring about their fee-fees on the matter.

*also some of rogue's individual reactions might also depends on the verse we are talking about, an' be complete opposite to what their other counterpart feels. like arkhamverse harley would throw hands with crane an' wish to murder the hell out of him, bc batman killed her trashman puddin, but crane doesn't seem to give a fuck. besides the one he shares with bruce lol.*

an’ then, there be joker, who would think that this is hilarious an’ the funnest thing since invention of fart cushions. despite common belief, that he should be the most pissed off party in this, i think, that he actually be a bit relieved. he’d rather have scarecrow as batman’s lover, than his new arch-enemy. since bruce’s an’ jon’ previous closeness might have lead the clown to believe, like he’s being replaced in that regard. besides, both arkhamverse an’ BTAS jokers have harley, so he prob would assume like jon is that for bruce too. someone to pass the time with. a companion, who while serves as a good distraction, doesn’t get the main picture or smth along those lines. like, your typical joker’s delusional stuff. so for him out of everyone this coupling would make the most sense. esp since there are some twisted parallels which can be drawn from how joker ‘made’ harley in who she is, an’ how batman influenced jonathan into ‘getting better’, but it’s all backwards. the joker be 'supportive', but he will also make fun of their sentiments toward one another too. so y'know, the classic.

now, if we take the situation, where jonathan isn’t on batman’s side per say an’ still a villain, an’ a serial killer, then things will be a bit more complicated. for one, nothing will hold him back too much. he still might dial his homicidal deeds down a notch, but i imagine, that if one of batman’s other rogues would have ended up really hurting bruce / nearly killing him an’ so on, scarecrow might pretty much came after them with little to no regard about what batman would think about it. in certain ways, a typically villainous jonathan possess an emotional intelligence of a wooden log an’ can’t truly picture why this would be devastating for bruce vs more stable version of crane who can at least grasp the reasoning behind some of bruce’s actions. it doesn’t mean, that he feels the same about the subject at hand or even shares the opinion, but he’s more ready for compromises. he can finally understand that some things will hurt bruce an’ disappoint him, even if crane himself doesn’t see anything too horrible about killing a person who hurt bruce in the past. comparably, the fullblown villain jonathan doesn't have this insight, nor he can see past his own blinding rage. he will do what he thinks is 'right' an' deserved, not what bruce might have wished he did instead.

an' all of this paints not a very nice picture for batman’s other rogues. this crane basically still remains on the same side of the law as them, but also now act like what they do is somehow worse, than what he did an’ still might do. he’s also crazy possessive over the bat now, an' doesn't even try to hide that he's more than willing to hurt / torture an' murder them, if they cross some unknown line. an’ on top of that, he doesn’t even get scolded for his zealousness enough. at least from their perspective, since batman doesn’t outright ejects him. or even seem to give up on him. in some form, this situation makes scarecrow more deserved of their jealousy an’ anger, than if crane decided to ‘better himself’ for the sake of being next to the batman 24/7. this also would pretty much make jonathan even more of an outcast among them, than before. which in all fairness isn’t very new to him. in the comics, he’s pretty much implied to always be looked down upon by them, anyways. it’s just that if some of rogues would try to mess him up too much, they will prob met batman’s fist in the private an’ with more force than usual. cuz bruce doesn’t like when someone else bullies crane. only he can do it lol. it also will be more than apperent now, that batman does play favorites to some degree, an' it's a huge oof for some of the rogues.

but once again, there will be some rogues who won’t be too alarmed by this. they just might try to avoid direct confrontations with crane, if they can help it. bc they know that he can put an effort into creating the sort of chemicals, which might reduce them to a forever scared, bedridden vegetable. an' no one wants that, i imagine. 

there will be some dynamics existing on outskirt of this as well. like, in both of those major cases, of jon being with the bat or against him, but also not really, scarecrow an’ two-face would most likely be pushed into medium, where they are forced to tolerate one another. esp in versions, where two-face knows that batman an’ bruce wayne are the same person. otherwise, i feel like two-face will give crane a side-glances, when the word get out that he an’ batman doing dirty tango together. but it’s also like … not super surprising. just means that crane can’t be trusted, even more than usual. an' that batman is actually more freaky, than some people think lol.

oh, an’ penguin in both versions of events would prob have troubles with processing them fully, so he won’t address it for a while. until he will get his wits back an’ be an asshole about it. but jon can be mean back, so eventually, oswald would shut up about it, an’ just hate crane even more, bc he’s historically been someone who he looked down upon, yet now, he’s envious of him. not even in terms, that scarecrow landed himself a hottie like batman *this too tho*, but just that even a sad, fugly monster like crane found someone who can see smth good in him an’ love him, even with all the awful parts. an’ penguin is typically not all that lucky.

an' ah, that's about it, haha. hopefully, this more or less paints a coherent picture in how i see other rogues viewing bruce an’ jon’s relationships. as funny enough, i don’t tend to think in depth about how other characters react to my otp, unless said characters are literally presented in the situation or scene. like, i can’t imagine alfred not knowing about batman an’ scarecrow as soon as they become a thing, mostly bc he’s always around bruce in some ways an’ he’s bruce’s closest ally-friend an’ father figure in one. jon, on other hand, doesn’t have any character, he’s particularly close with. i also doubt, that he will go around telling other rogues about his escapades with batman, not even bc of common sense *he still have some of it*, but also bc he’s very possessive of the moments they share together. he doesn’t want anyone else to get even a lick of what he’s getting, he's a greedy little goblin.

[thegeneralreturns]

IF I HAD TO RANK 'EM: The 2025 Best Picture nominees

Every year I do this, and every year I hope against hope that all ten of the Oscar nominees for Best Picture are, y'know, good? That I don't have to expend negativity and I can just blather on about movies I like.

But at least one of them inevitably has to shit the bed. Nine of this year's nominees range from "marginally good" to "fall-on-your-knees masterpiece." That tenth one, though...

10. Emilia Perez (Directed by Jacques Audiard) Emilia Perez is the single worst Best Picture nominee since The Imitation Game, and that was ten years ago. It takes a certain kind of bad to piss off Mexicans, Trans folks, and musical theatre nerds to near-identical levels of incandescence, but by God, Emilia Perez pulls it off. It attempts to be a crime drama, a gender transition fable, and a musical, and pulls them all off on the same plane of snide phoniness. It's 132 minutes of a director asking himself "How hard could this possibly be?" before every wild swing he takes, and then stepping on all the rakes and learning nothing. It's a Stanley Kramer movie. You remember Stanley Kramer, right? The guy who made movies about every social issue under the sun, but they all came off smug and condescending? Kramer couldn't have made Emilia Perez any better. He couldn't have made it any worse, either.

9. Dune: Part Two (Directed by Denis Villenueve) I am not a Villenueve fan. I think he's witless, allergic to levity, and altogether too impressed with himself (which means he and Twitter FilmBros were made for each other). So when I tell you that Dune: Part Two is good, that's like pulling teeth from me. Unlike the terminally dull first film, Dune: Part Two comes to the realization that a picture that's ninety percent giant worms and knife fights can be, like, fun and shit. The action scenes come off as blood-pumping diversions and not like prestige set-pieces that you're supposed to mourn like World War II footage. And that brief infrared jaunt to Giede Prime is cool no matter how you slice it.

8. Wicked: Part One (Directed by Jon M. Chu) I hate musicals, and I managed to see this one twice. It has the best ending of a movie in 2024 that didn't involve Sydney Sweeney smashing the Antichrist with a rock, and the best supporting performer of the year with Ariana Grande. But it has a dead zone at its center in Cynthia Erivo's Elphaba. She's not badly acted, just poorly framed and directed. They wanted her to be the only normal character in a cast full of caricatures, but she just came off as the one boring presence in a sea of dynamic scene-stealers.

7. A Complete Unknown (Directed by James Mangold) No major musician is as Rock Star Biopic-proof as Bob Dylan, but A Complete Unknown manages to give it a good go anyway, focusing equally between Dylan's struggle for artistic freedom and the effect he had on the people closest to him. Dylan needed to express himself, and it was a net-positive for the world that he did it in the way he did, but he was also a petulant asshole who took an almost unseemly glee in kicking over the sandcastles of genuinely good people like Joan Baez and Pete Seeger in order to fulfill that expression. And I applaud A Complete Unknown for holding both of those thoughts in its head at the same time.

6. I'm Still Here (Directed by Walter Salles) The thing I took away from this latest film by the great Walter Salles (Central Station and The Motorcycle Diaries) is its almost uncanny sense of time and place. Every shot of this story of one family's struggles during a brutal military dictatorship in Brazil in 1970 looks like an old Kodak photo that you'd find tucked away in the middle of an old album (NO CINEMATOGRAPHY NOMINATION? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?). And at its center is a lead performance by Fernanda Torres as the family's matriarch, and she radiates poise, strength, and grace in every frame... almost to a fault. If I have a nitpick (and we're getting to the point where nitpicks are all I have to rank one of these films over the other) is that Torres almost looks too good. The Hollywood treatment she gets kinda takes me out of the story the movie is telling. If you're still slaying after spending two weeks in prison with a bag over your head, then something's gone at least a little wrong.

5. Anora (Directed by Sean Baker) Though the number of four-letter words and bare titties may change, I honestly do think Anora is the kind of movie Billy Wilder would have made, and I don't part with that praise lightly. It's kind of a reverse-Ninotchka, isn't it? An American woman wooed and hypnotized by conspicuous Russian capitalism instead of the other way around? Sean Baker perfectly observes his lead as every last bit of her dignity is parted from her in comic fashions both high and low, leading to a spellbinding final scene where she finally realizes how much she's lost. Anora is a very, very good movie... But not a great one. A great one would have found a way to shave off about ten minutes of vibes from the front end.

4. The Substance (Directed by Coralie Fargeat) Much has been made of the howl of feminist rage at the center of Coralie Fargeat's body horror panic attack, but precious little has been made about how it comments on the career of its leading lady. Demi Moore's performance and role in The Substance is less a capstone on a decades-long career and more a critique. A lot of y'all weren't around in the nineties when Moore was on top, but those of us who were there remember that vulnerability was never asked of her. She functioned much the same way as Beyonce does now. She wasn't the plucky upstart, no, she was the overdog whose triumph was inevitable. She was never a character you had affection for. She was a fact of life you had to accept. So seeing Demi Moore in The Substance, every layer of imperviousness stripped away, reduced to physical ruin and mental insecurity, telling her younger-faster-stronger version in Margaret Qualley that "You are the only likeable part about me?" The effect was seismic. I felt the impact tremor in my feet.

3. The Brutalist (Directed by Brady Corbet) This is how you make a movie about uncompromising artistic endeavor using architecture as a metaphor, Coppola. Get that Megalopolis shit out of my house.

2. Conclave (Directed by Edward Berger) This year's slate of nominees is so weird and fucked that the non-controversial crowd-pleaser is the one about the Catholic church. Edward Berger uses every genre trope in the books, from spy movie intrigue to whodunit allure to goose his genuinely moving character study. It's just a drama about the papal line of succession on the surface (But what a surface it is!). Under all that is one man, Ralph Fiennes' Cardinal Lawrence, trying to divine the final wishes of a man for whom he cared so deeply. Two hours of crusty old men doing paperwork and bitching at each other wound up being the most pure fun of these Best Picture nominees.

But it's not the best.

No, that would be...

NICKEL BOYS (Directed by RaMell Ross) So many movies have been made about the black Civil Rights struggle in America over the decades that the only way for one to differentiate itself from another is to up the tragedy quotient. That or, I dunno, rebuild the visual language of film itself in order to get the point across. But that would be insane. Thankfully, documentarian RaMell Ross (making his fiction debut) is the crazy motherfucker the moment requires. The story of Nickel Boys, about two black kids serving time in a reformatory school in the late sixties, is told from the first person perspective of its two leads, almost literally putting you in their shoes as we see what they see, flitting from one to the other, from the past to the present, from imagination to hard, cutting reality. When used by Steven Soderbergh in 2025's Presence, it's a gimmick, though a good one. But in Ross' hands, it's a captivating visual stream-of-consciousness, in turns soothing and heartbreaking, building on the work of Terrence Malick without self-consciously copying it. Even when it ventures into well-trod territory, Ross' technique finds a way to pull the rug out from under you. On the one hand there's style, and on the other hand there's substance. But there doesn't have to be a choice between the two. RaMell Ross is the kind of guy who puts his hands together. Nickel Boys is a masterpiece, and if you care about movies, you'll find a way to see it.

[devine-fem]

As someone who likes Damijon as both platonic and romantic…I don’t understand the obsession of certain antis bring up whole age gap thing when it comes to Damian and Jon. It’s getting really old and pissing me off at this point.

I can’t recall a fandom I’ve been in where antis kept bringing up an age gap between two characters.

Idk if I’m talking out of my ass but it sounds like as if antis think the fandom puts Damijon in sexual situations 24/7 when that’s not the case.

Jfc no one is forcing you to ship them if you don’t (it’s not even canon!) but don’t go around accusing the fandom as p*d*s just to make a point. ( I know in fandoms there some weirdos too but it doesn’t make up a whole)

Let the Damijon fandom enjoy whatever crumbles they are getting right now…because it’s really just crumbles at this point.

If those antis also consist of those who are our rival ships (they know who they are) like yall are getting canon content rn from DC if you’re upset with the quality of it speak with your wallet idk…???

Sorry for the rant it’s just for the most part Damijon fandom has been pretty chill (excluding Twitter that’s another can of worms) and I hate the accusations parts of the fandom love to make.

Yeah… people don’t talk about how Jon had to be 11 to Damian’s 13 before he left for space because they only read super sons, they never really look at any other source or think about their ages as more than that because tom taylor said out his mouth that they were 3 years apart when dissing the ship BUT he admits himself to not know their exact ages and that it could be a 2 year age gap.

So I just think of it as two years, and with two years I don’t really care because personally even in my youth I’ve been with people who are two years older with no issue because age alone doesn’t determine whether or not someone is taking advantage of you for obvious reasons. Age gaps are not tangible things, to some people what you consider weird is normal to someone else.

Then there’s the fact that neither Jon or Damian have birthdays. Damian was aged up for teen titans which people don’t seem to care about. Among other things like how Jon and Damian are the same age in most other universes… did you know that? Also, people like to say theres a maturity gap but forget that Damian was the immature one that picked fights. Plus, when characters grow up beside each other then it’s less ‘weird’ cause then they are expierencing similar traumas. It’s probably lots smaller then we think.

When I talk about them with a three year age gap then its probably platonic but sometimes romantic, two years then its sometimes platonic or romantic, one year, platonic or romantic and I stay between these because their age can slightly change their dynamic. It’s for fun, its exploring their platonic dynamic if it had elements of romance to it. Its interchangeable to me but for the most parts its two.

They are barbies that I play with at my own free will. They are not real people, they may imitate life but they do not infact replicate it.

So yeah… when they are young I only ever have really seen or interacted with media where J and D have not done more than maybe peck. Its just supposed to be cute and sweet.

Do people not understand the concept of the fact Jon and Damian should not be getting into a serious relationship while they are young or else it would go horribly wrong? Do they not understand that a lot of the ships appeal in the childhood friends TO lovers factor?

It kind of bothers me to be having to put the fact that I l hate Jonjay and like Daminika in my bio so people can get a feel for the type of person I am. And “rival” ships? there’s no rivalry, I don’t feel threatened by other peoples ships at all… especially if they’re canon… unless its like jonjay where the origin of the ship is inherently problematic, substanceless and built on character assassination… but we hate damijon and praise THAT? We say that damijon is worse than that? I’m sorry but jonjay to jon kent is jayroy to roy harper to me.

Twitter is very strange, very very strange people on that app to which this morning I had to uninstall because I KNEW that they would feel threatened by damijons today and hate profusely in response to it.

Although, you guys gotta put that age gap shit to bed…

Dami look 14 here to you? If Damijons are the ones who don’t read comics then how do we know that they are well in their 20s and 30s here. They are both consenting adults in main continuity that can do as they please here. You simply cannot say anything. No arguement can be supported now because now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

There was no point in hate the age gap really in the first place since time was always gonna heal it anyway???

But part of me kind of understands hating it if you experience fandom through twitter which is not a fandom app at all. Damijon stans are annoying and gross on twitter, I get it but not everyone is inherently horrible for obvious reasons.

[dancingacrossthemilkyway]

cupping their cheeks and giving them a peck on the nose or lips - graveyard watch

It’s still a relatively new thing, whatever it is that is happening between them. Jon’s not stupid; he knows what’s going on, even if he doesn’t know if he’s ready to label it quite yet. The thing is…

It seems too convenient. Too good to be true. Jon doesn’t get nice things. No, Jon gets Leitners and burns, scars and worms and promotions that don’t make sense. Jon gets accused of murder, of manipulation, of having power that he doesn’t understand. Jon gets talked over and ignored and treated like garbage.

So how is he to believe that this man - this handsome, patient, laid-back man - has an actual interest in him?

“You’re thinking too much.” The voice is a baritone, speaking slowly but firmly as Oliver finishes his rounds with the plants decorating his flat. Jon furrows his brows and opens his mouth to protest, only to have Oliver raise an eyebrow and smirk at him. “You’re making the face again.”

“I- wha,” Jon sputters, scrubbing a hand over his face as Oliver chuckles and heads into the kitchen where the coffee is brewing. “I do not make a face.”

“You do. It looks something like this.” Oliver leans his hip against the counter and rests an elbow lazily on the old top as looks at Jon. He wrinkles his nose slightly and purses his lips, almost tilting them down, and scrunching his eyebrows just so to get a small crease between them. “It’s cute. I’d like it, if it didn’t usually mean you’re talking yourself out of something.”

“I, you - I’m not cute!” Another thing Jon doesn’t know quite how to accept is how casual Oliver is with compliments. They appear to be sincere ones, too, without any strings or expectations attached. Wrong, because Jon is hardly the cute type, but sincere nonetheless. 

“Yes, you are.” Oliver reaches into a cupboard to pull down two old mugs from the top shelf with an ease Jon envies. “But that’s not the point right now. What’re you thinking about?”

Jon immediately looks away. How does one admit they’re stuck struggling to believe that they’re worthy of someone’s attention? That the affection bestowed upon them makes them fearful that they’re somehow tricking someone into loving a version of them that doesn’t exist? He knows that it’s easy to tell he has poor self-esteem and even worse self-worth; Oliver had said as much when they’d first met in person. That should, in theory, make it easier to bring this up, shouldn’t it? 

But if he admits that he’s struggling, then he admits that he’s failing. Failing to be what Oliver needs him to be, failing to be a halfway decent partner in this relationship. And Oliver deserves so much more.

Warm hands cup Jon’s face suddenly, bringing him out of his mind to find Oliver crouching in front of him. “Hey,” Oliver says, nearly a whisper with how close they are. Concern is etched among the wrinkles of his face, affection laced in the words he speaks. “What’s wrong?”

Jon swallows. “What if…” he starts and god, he wants to duck his face to avoid seeing how Oliver reacts to him. He won’t. Oliver’s grasp is loose to allow him the freedom to do so, but he won’t. Even if he’s failing at every other aspect of this relationship, he will at least give Oliver this. “What if I’m not… good enough?”

Oliver’s eyes search his face for a long moment. “Good enough for?” he prompts after a second, even though Jon’s fairly certain he knows what Jon’s referring to.

Jon sighs, long and sad. “You.”

“Mmm.” Oliver rocks forward and places a soft kiss on Jon’s forehead, lingering long enough to ensure the skin continues to tingle after he pulls away. “It’s that kind of day, huh. Let me get the coffee and then why don’t we curl up under a blanket. Are there any documentaries you’d like to watch, or should I put on whatever catches my attention?”

Jon can’t explain it, can’t put into words why this reaction calms him more than if Oliver were to attempt to reassure him that he is good enough. He can’t put a lot of things into words, actually, about his turbulent emotions and how Oliver somehow manages to be a steady anchor through it. It doesn’t need to be verbalized, he supposes; that’s no what matters. Oliver reaches behind Jon to tug down the blanket he owns that is sinfully soft (one that Jon became obsessed with the first time he touched it) and drapes it over Jon’s shoulders. 

Clearing his throat, Jon pulls it tighter around himself. “A, uh. A documentary would be lovely.”

Oliver nods and hands him the remote. “Here. I’ll be right back out with drinks. Stay out of that head for me for a few minutes, okay?”

Jon chuckles. “Yeah. I’ll try.”

———

Prompt list

[northeasternwind]

Considering writing a short Frogwares Games/Canon (or more likely Granada since then I don't have to deal with Watson's marriage I'M SORRY MARY I JUST LIKE SIMPLICITY) crossover isekai thing where the wave at the end of The Awakened dumps frogwares!boys into a parallel dimension and now Canon Holmes and Watson have to sit here and watch going oh god. We're fathers now

Canon!Holmes: I think a trip to the Diogenes is in order here

Frogwares!Holmes: a trip to the what

Canon!Holmes: WHAT DO YOU MEAN A TRIP TO THE WHAT oh god it's worse than I thought

Poor Sherlock and Watson get to deal with their Cthulhu trauma by obtaining two middle-aged fathers. For literally zero reason I love the fanon that Holmes's father is the one who taught him to box, so he learns that Frogwares!Holmes can't box, immediately deduces half his tragic backstory, goes oh my god you poor child and then realizes holy shit I have an intellectual equal and I can teach him boxing.

Frogwares!Holmes is traumatized but maybe beating up his "older brother" will help. LMFAO.

My idea here is to posit that the fanon "eldest brother Sherrinford" does exist but died stillborn in Frogwares verse, causing the Holmes couple to wait a little longer between babies and making them more demonstrably affectionate toward the sons they did have. Canon Mycroft is as chill as he is because his parents were SUPER detached and he wasn't expected to inherit the estate, so Canon Holmes learns that Frogwares!Sherrinford and the Diogenes club don't exist and puts it all together like HEAD IN HANDS

(Meanwhile canon Watson can say FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T GIVE HIM ANY DRUGS HE DOESN'T CONSENT TO, IT'S HARD ENOUGH KEEPING HIM AWAY FROM THE ONES HE DOES even though I suspect Frogwares!Holmes has a rather different relation with medicine in general OOP)

I haven't even STARTED on Jon yet, lordt