#i swear this isn’t me hating a tanner just look at the state of my account

[tannertbosas]

rant to elaborate on my previous post …

so my point was, that tanner received the fandom treatment that reaper & jessup deserved, but this is just simplified.

reaper and jessup themselves are pretty popular and relevant characters in tbosas fandom, but most of the time when I see stuff about them, it’s very surface level.

meanwhile for tanner, which is way less relevant in the story of tbosas, probably out of every main tribute, i’ve seen people provide way more over-analysis of his character and behaviour (i am 100% included) that I feel like are a bit unnecessary and is, at the end, overlapping reaper and jessup’s character traits. one part of the fandom refuses to look past his dancing over lamina’s dead body in the book storyline, and the other part is trying *too* hard to make him seem entirely innocent. but that’s just common fandom behaviour, i’ve seen multiple other characters receiving the same treatment.

but tanner is depicted negatively in the book and in the movie, showed to be lacking of empathy and eager about killing (ranting about slaughterhouse methods in his interview) while reaper and jessup are characters that are depicted positively, and are both separately very interesting characters. reaper also tried to attack people, and in the book, apologised to the other tributes for having to kill them in the arena, but then promised that their death wouldn’t be meaningless, and he then performed a rebellious act in the arena by tearing down the capitol’s flag and forming a morgue with the deceased tribute’s bodies, which is the most important act of the 10th hunger games , but people seem to look past that. i have personally barely seen anyone try and give it an over-analysis like they would do to their favs!

jessup on the other hand was shown to be protective of lucy gray since the beginning, and jumped over lysistrata to protect her from the arena’s bombing. and he also had one of the most interesting character plots, having rabies, that he passed to reaper in the zoo, at least in the books. his death was also very interesting, on how it affected lysistrata, and her words about him.

as for fandom treatment, i’m mostly talking about pure “fandom” stuff. I can’t blame people for not having them as favourite characters, but it feels very exclusive to barely ever see reaper or jessup included in fanworks, such as fanfiction, which is very popular in the TBOSAS fandom. to continue about fanfiction, i’ve also been noticing a lack of pairing containing the two characters (separately), while both being very interesting and good natured characters, or if they are in a pairing, it is very overlooked. meanwhile people have no problem shipping tanner with, i could say, anyone, while being almost… antisocial.

this just doesn’t make lots of sense to me, how quick people will say oh tanner is actually very caring, oh he was kind, his dance over someone’s literal dead body had a deeper meaning, could be rebellious, etc… im all for headcanons, do what you want, but those headcanons that most apply to tanner, are actually closer to reaper and jessup’s characters.

this is NOT to force anyone to do anything. this is just my personal observation in this fandom. maybe it’s just since i talk a lot about tanner, most stuff I see is around him. i just find the lack of consideration for such good written and interesting characters such as reaper & jessup a big waste, especially if you’re gonna applicate it to a very less relevant character.

[mag7dumbies]

Magnificent Seven (1960) warning heavy spoilers ahead

Okay, compadres you ready? I’m leaving a few things out cause some of it just doesn’t make sense but for the most part, I didn’t leave anything out so that means there is a lot of cursing so be prepared for that

(Okay I got cookies, plans to make popcorn later and the Seven stupidest men ever about to come on my screen yeehaw mfs)

(This theme song is a bop, Elmer Bernstein is a genius)

Huh wonder who’s the bad guy, can’t be the dude in red (haha jk he’s an ass)

“I’ll be back” (what is he the Terminator)

“Stupid” well yeah the guy running at you with a machete (?) wasn’t the smartest but you didn’t have to kill him

I actually love how everyone is wearing white (like yeah I know white doesn’t absorb sun well so that’s why) it just makes everything really picturesque and almost heavenly you know

All these guys have fantastic ideas about how to take care of the problem and the head honcho is like ‘really tricking the man who just shot one of our own is not going to work don’t be stupid’

“Let's go ask the old man” we about to get Godfather in this bitch

(It was a machete hell yeah I knew it)

“Buy guns?” “Go to the border guns are plentiful there” Dude that hurts but it’s very very true

(There are so many parallels to the pilot I love it)

We getting racist in this bitch and in rides, Chris like the suicidal idiot he is and Vin is just like I’ll help you go bury an Indian who deserves proper respects like the man we know and love (ugh love this)

Literally used his boot to light a match, Chris stop being extra

And the whole town is following them like it’s the best thing to happen since… I don’t know a herd of cows came through town… (Man aren’t we lucky for the internet)

Love how the second Vin hears a slur Chris is like hold your horses buckaroo it’s just the wind (cause apparently the wind is racist all of a sudden)

Who is this person following them like a puppy (Jd anyone, although I know that’s not his name in the movie but he sure is acting like it)

Well, the graveyard scene left two people bleeding and no other corpses than the one they started with. Larabee, Tanner, and Jackson should take notes

“We think you’re a man we can trust” Bitch I wouldn’t trust Chris as far as I can throw him (I love him but the boy doesn’t have a great track record)

What’s with the fuchsia bag did they even have fuchsia back then? (Apparently fuchsia came to America in 1892 so I don’t know)

“Every man wears a gun” “Sure, like wearing pants, its expected” good lord Chris

What kind of clapping game is this

I really don’t understand Craps 

These guys are just mocking Vin about going to work at a grocery store and I’m living for it

And Chris you got three including yourself, Harry and Vin learn to count idiot

Those two just get off their horses with such grace I could watch that 100 times and still be entranced  

“I heard you’re broke” “Nah I’m doing this because I’m an eccentric millionaire” (Good lord O’Reilly, he is now a new fave of mine)

What the fuck is up with Chris’s hips like why is he swaggering like some hotshot

And if O’Reilly is so expensive what the fuck did he do with the money to make him end up dirt poor and cutting wood

Britt has the longest, lankiest legs I have seen on a man in a very long time

What game were they playing bullets are expensive stop messing around

Oh no the kid’s drunk and mad wonder what the hell he’s gonna do (probably something stupid)

This bitch with his wacky accent I can’t take him seriously, he just needs to chill

Okay I didn’t mean for you to collapse

Chris just fucking left him on the floor good lord

Okay everyone needs to dial the sass from 150 to a nice steady 50 cause damn

The kid is so so stupid, and Harry is just as worried about him as Buck was it's sweet

“What a chucklehead” (good lord I feel that)

Wtf the kid just caught a fish with his bare hands (that might take him out of the running for being Jd who couldn’t catch a fish even if it was handed to him)

Okay the TV show is just full of idiots, the movie makes them out to be brilliant assholes and I don’t know which one I prefer

Okay who names their child Hilario like that just isn’t right (like it’s fine but it’s too close to hilarious for me to take it seriously)

The kid is such a fucking ass, can someone shoot him for me like fuck

(Guys just to keep you in the loop I’m not even an hour in)

Look its Lanky legs Mcgee (aka Britta filter aka Britt)

The kid needs a baby sitter

Surprise surprise the kid did something stupid, (no really I’m shocked, not)

Kid, don’t do it I know it’s a bull and bulls are cool but don’t be fucking stupid playing bullfighter

Kid, she did not try to take your eye out she just slapped you (well deserved I might add) and what do you mean you’ll bite back what are you doing

WTF KIDDO WILL YOU QUIT AND DRINK SOME RESPECTING WOMEN JUICE

She’s wearing pants- is that accurate

Vin is sipping that juice like a good boy 

The boys are so sweet and it makes me emotional

The old guy is gonna die isn’t he

Here we go ya’ll it’s about to get serious 

Seriously don’t throw a hissy fit cause Chris tells you to go away

Love that the guns seem authentic (makes me happy)

(Plus the horse actors are doing fantastic the trainers should be proud)

Kid what are you doing, that’s a good way to accidentally step on your hat

Oh fuck here we go again

Chico is literally going to get shot if he isn’t careful (Chico is the kid btw)

Oh God I love these kids “if you get killed we’ll avenge you and put fresh flowers on your grave” plus they drew straws (how is that not just the best thing you’ve ever heard)

Chico, the girl obviously likes you (don’t know why, you’re an idiot, but extremely cute just saying)

(I fucking HATE the new hat it fills me with rage)

Wait a diddly darn minute did Chico just infiltrate the gang with that stupid hat

Awww my poor boy nightmares are the worst

O’Reilly is such a Dad and I love him

Harry will you quit before Chris kills you or I do it myself

This better be the last time cause lord I just wanna see him dead

Chris looks like he’s gonna whack a bitch when Calvera says he’ll give him a pardon

Oh no Chico is gonna do something idiotic- thank god Chris is there

O’Reilly is adorable- and has some goddamn sense and is willing to use violence (spanking of minors which I don’t exactly approve of) to show that being a gunhand is coward’s work

 “In Texas, only Texans can rob banks” wow did he just call our government and the whole state of Texas racist (yes I think he did)

Chico has some issues that he needs to see a therapist for (guess Chris will do though he needs about as much counseling)

By the way, Lee is the future Judge Travis if you guys didn’t know (Thank you Amazon- you might be all kinds of crap but hey at least you are informative) 

Harry you dirty rotten coward

Here we go once more, my dudes

Vin get yourself taken care of and go home- 

Harry that wasn’t helpful at all 

Why is everyone getting hurt all of a sudden 

Chris don’t lie to him it makes me feel bad

And stop breaking glass it’s hella expensive

Lee you stupid son of a bitch

This is a blood bath I don’t like it

 Britta Filter NOOOOOOOOOOOO

I DON’T LIKE THIS GAME ANYMORE I DON’T LIKE THIS I DON’T LIKE THIS I DON’T LIKE THIS FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The old man lives wtf (I’m glad don’t get me wrong, but it still hurts my soul)

Three lived I don’t like this,

 Chico, I swear to God you and her’s kids are gonna be adorable don’t fuck this up

Everything hurts 

Well I’m in extreme emotional distress but you know I think I’ll be okay, now before we start with the show I gotta go water some plants- may be using my tears cause ow wasn’t expecting that ending

[nothingman]

Rep. Robert Fisher looks on as people testify against his comments about women. @WMUR9 http://pic.twitter.com/YL9n14ThmU

— Kristen Carosa (@KCarosaWMUR) May 9, 2017

Last month, an investigation by The Daily Beast revealed that the man who created Reddit’s horrifically misogynistic Red Pill forum is currently serving as a GOP lawmaker in New Hampshire. Now in his second term as a state representative, Robert Fisher didn’t deny the allegations, but admitted in a statement that he had “said some injudicious things about the opposite sex following a bad breakup” and that in his early 20s (when the forum was created), “false rape accusations became a very real concern of” his. Rape denial is a favorite, frequent topic in the forum.

Fisher ostensibly stepped down as the page’s moderator in 2013, shortly after losing his first run for office. (Running, by the way, as a Democrat.) But a new article at the Daily Beast alleges Fisher is actually still running the forum under the handle redpillschool. That account was created the day before Fisher, as Pk_atheist, handed over control of the group, and has ties to websites registered to Fisher’s personal email accounts.

If Fisher is operating as redpillschool (which he says is “categorically false”), it’s an important part of this whole story. Because Tuesday afternoon, Fisher faced a legislative committee looking into whether action should be taken against him. They can only make that decision, though, based on comments and actions from the current legislative period, meaning this calendar year.

Tuesday’s hearing was conducted by a 13-member panel. Reports indicate that no one showed up to defend Fisher, except for Fisher himself.

No one has testified in defense of Fisher today. Also noteworthy: Almost everyone testifying against him is a woman. #nhpolitics

— Kathleen Ronayne (@kronayne) May 9, 2017

Fisher himself admitted he started the forum, but don’t worry, everybody, he swears he’s “never hated women.” It’s just a matter of those “injudicious” statements being taken “out of context.” (Aren’t they always?) He said the entire hearing was a “poor use of our time.” To his credit, Fisher does seem to be an expert on poor uses of time, as Daily Beast notes he “has refused to sit on a committee and shows up to vote only half the time.” He also reportedly passed around a simplistic hot take of a letter on the New Hampshire transgender bathroom bill as proof that he’s totally doing his job.

I know the committee has to work within the limited timeframe of the current session, but the mere creation of the forum is enough for most voters, as well as Fisher’s colleagues, to want his removal. (Or, at the very least–hopefully–prevent his re-election.) But if he is operating as redpillschool, it’s clear his opinions on women haven’t changed in the slightest, and can’t be written off as post-breakup, early 20s youthful foolishness. Here are just a few chilling comments that user has made. (Content warning for rape, sexual assault, and assholedom.)

— He wrote a three-part series titled “All Women Lie About Rape.” He claims the title in facetious, and meant to imply that some women do, in fact, lie about rape. Which isn’t a whole lot better.

— He wrote in a comment on his own post, “You don’t need a strategy for rape, other than ‘where do i buy roofies, and what’s the best brand of duct tape?”

— He believes “Feminists are obsessed with rape because we live in a rape fantasy culture, where feminists wish they were hot enough to be rape-able.”

–Perhaps most upsetting, redpillschool admitted he has committed sexual assault. “I have had A LOT of sex in my life. I think by feminist-definition some of it was rape.” He went on to spew all-too typical vileness. “You know what the crazy thing is? It was totally consensual sex that the chicks were into and came back for more. But yeah, we live in a culture of Schrodinger’s Rapist, where the only difference between a rapist and a non-rapist is what the girl decides the next day (or week). It’s impossible not to be a rapist if you plan on having relations with women.”

Even the official statement he released after the original Daily Beast article doesn’t paint him in a great light. For starters, in addressing one of the “most egregious” quotes from the Red Pill forum (that rape isn’t an “absolute bad” because the rapist “probably likes it a lot”), wrote, “Don’t I have sisters and a mother or some sort of moral compass? The media says NO! But friends and family have contacted me to assure me I didn’t become a rapist over night. I feel like I should listen to them.” He explains, “What was the context of that statement? It was a debate about absolute truth that was recurring on my forums back in ’08.” Because Fisher really doesn’t see any problem with making light of rape and mocking victims of rape in order to play “devil’s advocate.”

He also addressed the numerous comments he made about women lacking intelligence. In one such post, he describes how intelligent his mother and sisters are, and how he’s never met another woman who appeared that smart. In his recent column, he writes, “Sure, my experience would eventually lead me to discover that all is not lost in the bleak world of dating, as I’m in a very happy relationship today. But my god did it suck when I realized just how high of a bar my family set for my expectations, with no preparation for the eventual realization that most people won’t be what you expect.” Does that sound like he stands by his claim that women as a whole aren’t as intelligent as his family members? It does, doesn’t it?

There is a lot more bullshit in that column to wade through if you feel so inclined.

At the hearing today, the committee heard testimony from constituents and colleagues (mostly women) voicing their concern in having this kind of rampant misogyny in the legislature.

Amanda Grady Sexton of the New Hampshire Coalition Against Domestic and Sexual Violence said “The representative is promoting the false narrative that victims are liars.”

Rep. Linda Tanner said, “There will be women who will suffer bullying, abuse or become victims of rape, sexual assault and domestic violence as a result of the remarks, actions and website made by Mr. Fisher.”

Rep. Debra Altschiller testified, “I have sat in emergency rooms with rape victims while nurses and doctors gather DNA evidence for possible prosecution. I can tell you with certainty, rape is no joke. When you use it to fumble around with other rape apologists in chatrooms designed to discuss sexual strategies with other misogynists, you are not just participating in rape culture. You are grooming it, you are cultivating it, you are growing it.”

You can bet we’ll be keeping an eye on this story.

  (via Daily Beast, Jezebel, Concord Monitor, image: Sausyn/Flickr)

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