#i sincerely apologize for all the homestuck

[aeolianasio]

(i would not normally post something like this, but my girlfriend made this and thought it was funny, so here we are!)

[prokopetz]

this ask came to me in a dream and i must speak on its behalf: what do you think about homestuck beyond canon

I think it's too early for me to have a well-formed opinion at this point, for a very specific reason.

I basically agree with the majority opinion that the post-epilogue story which would eventually become Beyond Canon is characterised by a whole lot of spite toward its target audience. Where I differ is that I don't think this is anything new; a certain sneering contempt for their audience has always been a hallmark of Andrew Hussie's work, and it's present in Homestuck right from day one. At most, Hussie getting burnt out from the Hiveswap fiasco resulted in a text that's somewhat less willing to entertain the polite fiction that its readers are in on the joke, but that's not a change – it's just saying the quiet part out loud.

The interesting part is that this contempt isn't merely undirected bile: it's motivated by a particular stance regarding the purpose of fiction. Writing a story which invites emotional investment, then turning around and calling you a stupid baby for actually becoming invested in it is one of Hussie's favoured narrative sleights of hand, but it's not the Charlie Brown-esque football pull it appears to be – or, rather, it's not only that. Lurking under it is the insistence that fictional characters are, ultimately, objects: tools for exploring a narrative space. Ironic detachment is the only "correct" way to approach works of fiction, because when you emotionally relate to a fictional character (or, heaven forfend, actually identify with one), you are fundamentally committing a category error – like you've mistaken a hat for your wife.*

To what extent Hussie actually believes any of that, and to what extent it's just a very committed bit they're doing is a fair question, but that's not important here; sincere or not, the opening stages of (what was not yet) Beyond Canon are dyed in the cloth with it. Care of the comic has subsequently been handed off to a separate creative team who, to all textual evidence, don't buy into this notion of what-fiction-is-for at all, but they're building on a foundation that's steeped in it. What we're looking at now is a serialised narrative which disagrees with its own premise. I genuinely cannot imagine what sort of flower they're expecting to grow in the soil they've been given, and I don't think we're far enough in to draw any well-supported conclusions just yet.

All of which is a very complicated way of saying that I'm just here for the show!

* With apologies to Oliver Sacks.

[2023himbotournament]

Coming to you all soon: The 2023 Grand Himbo Tournament!!

Inspired by the @nonbiney-swag-competition mainly, created and hosted by @makerofmadness

edit: guys it's already started pleas catch up I can't tell everyone who thinks it hasn't started yet dndndndndndn

Edit 2; The tournament has officially concluded! Thanks for your participation, I will still be using this blog for helping spread other tournaments, and also posting cringe

Welcome one and all, to the most ambitious tournament probably so far (that is to say, I chose way too many characters but in my defense I had found a blank template for a smash bros character roster thing and wanted to fill the whole thing up, even if I had to turn to the dark side to do so for one or two picks): The 2023 Himboff!

Round 1 Part 1 will begin on Friday, hopefully giving everyone enough time to prepare themselves for battle (I describe this as if it's a war and not a tumblr pollnament-).

EDIT: Yes I am being told that I may have included characters who may not fit the himbo criteria perfectly but in my defense i am not in every fandom and my research consisted of furious googling so if google lied to me then blame that

Now, without further ado, here is our roster!!

The himbos, in order from top to bottom, left to right:

Johnny Bravo (Johnny Bravo)

Kronk (The Emperor's New Groove)

Milk Cookie (Cookie Run)

Glamrock Freddy (Five Nights at Freddy’s)

Asgore Dreemurr (Undertale)

John F Kennedy (Clone High)

Joseph Joestar (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)

Son Goku (Dragon Ball)

Fred Jones (Scooby Doo)

Knuckles (Sonic Boom)

Chandlo Funkbun (Bugsnax)

Hercules (Hercules)

Milo (Pokémon)

Tom Dupain (Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir)

Jake English (Homestuck)

Launchpad McQuack (Ducktales)

King Dedede (Kirby)

Jonathan Joestar (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)

Lupin III (Lupin III)

Bolin (The Legend of Korra)

Big the Cat (Sonic)

Joey Wheeler (Yu-Gi-Oh)

Maui (Moana)

Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)

Sun Wukong (RWBY)

Terra (Kingdom Hearts)

Dimitri (Fire Emblem)

Brock (Pokémon)

Emile (How Not to Summon a Demon Lord)

Galo Thymos (Promare)

Gladiolus Amicitia (Final Fantasy)

Groose (The Legend of Zelda)

Hector (Fire Emblem)

Gonta Gokuhara (Danganronpa)

Indus Tarbella (Epithet Erased)

Tyko (Harmoknight)

Okuyasu Nijimura (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)

Toshinori Yagi (My Hero Academia)

Zeke von Genbu (Xenoblade)

Reyn (Xenoblade)

Koichi Zenigata (Lupin III)

Zhongli (Genshin Impact)

Killer T Cell (Cells at Work!)

Jean Pierre Polnareff (Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure)

Muscle Cookie (Cookie Run)

Flynn Rider (Tangled)

Prince Naveen (The Princess and the Frog)

Captain Underpants (Captain Underpants)

Kofu (Pokémon)

Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)

Larry the Lobster (Spongebob SquarePants)

Ralph (Wreck-It Ralph)

King Fergus (Brave)

Kyojuro Rengoku (Demon Slayer)

Joey Tribbiani (Friends)

Steve Harrington (Stranger Things)

Jason Mendoza (The Good Place)

Troy Barnes (Community)

Kamina (Gurren Lagann)

Alfred F. Jones (Hetalia) (sincere apologies)

Andy Dwyer (Parks and Recreation)

Thor (Marvel)

Nate Archibald (Gossip Girl)

Valhallen (Powerpuff Girls)

He-Man (He-Man and the Masters of the Universe)

Arthur Morgan (Red Dead Redemption)

Leon (Pokémon)

Sam (Stardew Valley)

Reigen Arataka (Mob Psycho 100)

Clawd Wolf (Monster High)

Guillermo (Himbo Harem Homicide)

Galio (League of Legends)

Mirio Togata (My Hero Academia)

See you all on Friday for when the Himboff commences!

[artistic-scribbles]

@serfuzzypushover @aussievriska @emzzy @autisticsupervillain @oh-mother-fucket

i know i have addressed this on the original post, but as keeping with my friends' advice, i have decided to write a formal apology.

this is my first time reading through homestuck, hence the low-quality yet way too enthusiastic posts that are all probably totally wrong. i don't know who damara is. i don't know about troll biology (nor do i particularly want to).

i'm not trying to make excuses, i just want everyone to know that they're right. i'm not as educated on homestuck as i should be and maybe someday i'll know as much as everyone els

and i'm terribly sorry for any disrespect. i'm sure you have been in the fandom way longer than i have, and know way more than i do. i've learned a lot from strangers on the internet and i hope that i can continue to do so going forward, and hopefully be less dumb about it

sincerely,

moss

[our-nonbinary-experience]

im making you a homestuck sburb land and there's nothin you can do about it !! based on the vibes i get from your profile >:]

Land of Liquid and Warmth (LOLAW)

a mars-sized planet consisting of teapots, waterfalls and vintage art- the atmosphere is shaped so it looks like you're living in an old piece of vintage art, left untouched in a 70's painter's studio! your denizen is Anima, a genderless, centuries years old god of creation and benevolence- they're the kind of person to ramble about the good ol days where they used to play and have fun!

your consorts are black humanoid axolotls(?) who have the same fashion style as you- they all love and praise you and some of them really do want to learn english in order to commune with you.

your quest mainly bases on protecting your land from potential threat and cheering up those who are already succumbing to the severe fear of those threats. kind of like a housekeeper or such! you need to master the arts of advice and peace.

i mainly see you as a sylph of hope due to your cheerful attitude and your open-minded mentality- you're quite literally the keeper of hope! so you'll have to fix and heal the hope of your consorts.

your sprite would possibly be a mixture between a dessert or notebook you have somewhere at home and the kernelsprite released from your cruxtruder- with a warm brown outline defining their features, your sprite is always there to help! the keeper of hope gotta have a fellow keeper of hope by their side.

oh erm- was that too much info? i apologize, lately I've been deeply interesed in homestuck so i figured out i should make one of my favorite blogs their own personal land...

Wow that’s very interesting! I don’t know anything at all about homestuck, but thanks for taking the time out to make something! I very sincerely appreciate it!

[dailyjamm6]

As a few updates, well, i'd like to begin i guess by apologizing lol, There was a lot of technical work involved in this drawing but in the end it didn't materialize as actually making the picture look good, there were alot of practical mistakes by my part and this shouldn't represent my work overall; In the very least going outside the box managed to make it look better than it would have had if i just drew it regularly---

The face in particularly, i tried to save it but i failed .w. i'm at least happy that i managed to make the rest of the body look decent in the least!

I was planning on making a Homestuck themed drawing for Halloween but i ended up getting sick and not being able to finish in time, i may go for it again later within this month! I'd also like to thank all people who either follow me or have shown appreciation for my work, it means a lot to me; I sincerely didn't know if there was anything i could be doing that would allow me to express and share my person and works to the world, as well as potentially something more down the line and, genuinely, out of all places i've been i've not quite seen some place as receptive and loving as here.

Even if in comparison to so many others, be it great writters and artists, or even simple rebloggers what i've been receiving may not be much, the fact that i've been even receiving anything at all substantial already means a lot to me.

Thank you Tumblr, and as well to the Homestuck community at large.

~ Mykael "Jamm6" de Souza

[anonymous-dentist]

as the anon that first threw out the possibility that crepusculo cellbit is just sans undertale, i would like to deeply profoundly and sincerely apologize. i got all the homestucks on your doorstep

The real kicker is that I’ve never even READ homestuck so idk what you’re talking about because isn’t sans?? From undertale??

[nictelsm]

I'm gonna pause my habit of Hussie edits. I sincerely apologize for those who happen to like them, and I liked doing them too.

I'm doing this for a few reasons:

My iCloud storage is pretty buggy and slow, probably because of my iPad being a 4th generation model instead of a 9th gen, which explains the old processor that's making this iPad worse the more I use it.

The collection of Andrew Hussie drawings is really, really big, bigger if I got all the Homestuck resources. I've contained all of that for good reason, but I've taken it off my iPad so that iCloud doesn't foil itself over. The only way I could do a Hussie edit is by downloading one of the files from my Google Drive repository, but that's a bit of a tough job...Or maybe it's not hard I dunno.

I want a bigger iCloud storage for my new iPad, and I'm hoping for the best that it's gonna be faster than the one I'm using to write this (Broken piece-a-shit is what I call it)

I need a new PC that I can build, which requires the best stuff I want for it. Maybe that'll be useful for some edits or Microsoft Paintoshop panels for MSPFAs.

Bonus news

I'm going to add up more junk to my Andrew Hussie folder. First, I'm gonna search around for every single Byrobot comic, both on his old website and his Tumblr account, even though there's only two entries from his brother, Andrew. Lastly, I'll try to get all the graphics from Psycholonials into one specific folder On second thought, I'd have to rename the folder to "DO NOT OPEN" or just never do that at all.

So, uh, yeah.

[assholepants]

One thing that keeps coming up on the homestuck made this world podcast that I'd like to reflect on (I'm on E5P3 btw, so apologies if something like this gets discussed later and I'm junking the gun) is this idea that characters are puppets that Hussie can guide, or shine a camera on, or influence, but they are ultimately their own things, that are somewhat separate from their full control as an author. And the hmtw guys, quite rightly, point out that this really isn't how fiction works in a broad sense. And yes they are 100% correct that this explanation is often used in contexts where Hussie wants to absolve herself from responsibility for choices they have made, and this is important when parsing how sincere Hussie is being with this idea.

But I do think this theory of fiction weirdly reflective of a form of storytelling that I have a fair amount of experience with, and that is TTRPGs. Where you have, what could be considered as a sort of central author who creates the world, the key plot points, all of the NPCs and basically does most of the legwork for guiding and shaping the story. Essentially what the Black text narrative voice does in homestuck. But the PLAYER characters in that story do exist as a separate entity, which the GM can guide and influence and attempt to push in certain directions, but who ultimately exist outside of the realm of direct control of the 'cental author'. And as a GM, you have to plan around these things, and consider how these characters work, the types of decisions they might make, and how you can tell a coherent story whilst still allowing these characters to act somewhat independantly from you.

I do think at some points, homestuck feels like it is written by a GM who has sort of lost control of the table a little bit. Character motivations seem to take precedent over story beats that the author really wants to hit, and copious amounts of time are spent pulling the train back on the tracks, only for another character to derail in another way. But what's odd, is obviously if this is the model of fiction we are using, Hussie is ALSO the person piloting the player characters. GMing a game, played solely by himself. And in this way I can see where this worldview comes from right? If as the author of a work you are considering what characters would do, as separate from and sometimes antithetical to where you want the story to go, then it makes sense that you might erroneously start to view them as distinct entities that exist by themselves and have lives outside of the narrative that you are explicitly writing. And when you write like 6 different characters that intentionally have elements of authorial, or GM power, it become very easy for these characters to derail what you, as the primary author, want to do.

Obviously we can never actually know Hussie's actual writing process and this is pure speculation, and also again the fact that Hussie has control over all of the 'player' characters makes it distinct from a ttrpg. It also means that this theory actually does not absolve it from responsibility for character actions at all. But as someone who has GMed ttrpgs and has this same issue of trying to balance story with character development and motivation coming from forces outside of my complete control, it's something interesting to think about, with regards to the way that Hussie constructs this theory of how fiction is made.

[motion-of-them]

i have made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement. i misread the titles on the new poll for vriska vs eda and accidentally voted eda, i sincerely apologize to all of my fellow homestucks for this unintentional betrayal. i shall learn from this mistake, and take time choosing my vote from now on.

[potatobugz]

At last, I have a creature for every color on the hemospectrum... (except for like,, lime but yknow)

[zapsoda]

Eridan Ampora Did Nothing Wrong Ever, in His or Anyone Else's Life (or Death): an Assertation; a Manifesto

So, let's begin by compiling the claims most commonly leveled against him.

incel

hemoist

murderer

These are the claims I wish to contest, starting with "incel."

First, let's define the term "incel."

- from urbandictionary, a most reliable source

For Eridan to be an incel, he must

be self delusional/"egoistic" (based?)

pretend to be a nice guy

"blames others for his deprivation of sex or romantic relationship"

be "unable to find a romantic partner or thinks is deprived of sex by other guys called CHAD [sic]"

and optionally,

have stereotypes for others

become a mass murderer

So Eridan is known for his romantic troubles, it is one of the larger struggles he contends with throughout the comic, beginning with Vriska, a possible ex-kismesis, blocking him. Quickly following this, he is broken up with by Feferi, for whom he is down bad astronomically.

Throughout the comic, he seems to make advances towards many of the other characters, though not at random. He's certainly desperate, but he always has some sort of basis for where he thinks the chemistry is coming from.

Now, to address the qualities of an incel in regards to Eridan.

It's hard to define self delusional and egoistic, but I would say, as he is 13 years old during this time, it is to be expected that he would be.

At no point does Eridan pretend to be nice, if anything he pretends to be an asshole, but we'll go into that further in the hemoism section. He wears his dickheadedness on his sleeve, as demonstrated particularly well in any scene wherein he antagonizes Sollux, a truly admirable trait.

He does not blame others for his romantic failures, Eridan has been shown to be quite insecure and down on himself.

When rejected, he tends to put the blame on himself and doesn't lash out in return, as "nice guys" have been known to. In fact, the closest he comes to doing this is in a conversation with Feferi, and he promptly apologizes for it.

I will give you, Eridan notably is unable to find a romantic partner, however he never seeks to blame this issue on Chads or otherwise desirable men who are simply taking all the ladies (and fellas).

As for the optional qualities, Eridan does appear to display murderous tendencies, although despite his supposed hemoism, he does not seem to stereotype lowbloods.

In total, Eridan displays 2 out of the 4 necessary qualities to be declared a nice guy, and 4 out of 6 of the total qualities, notably lacking those that are most important for this classification.

Consider the incel claim debunked.

Next, we move on to the hemoism claims.

Now, if you're reading this, I expect you know of the hemospectrum within the comic Homestuck. If not, I have sincerely no clue how you are still here. Godspeed, I suppose.

Anyways, as you should know, Alternia has a strict blood caste which the trolls are expected to adhere to, whether they agree with it or not. The highbloods tend to be more ardent about its enforcement, as it benefits them, while the lowbloods are more lenient. This, of course, can not apply to anywhere near all of the lowbloods or highbloods. What, you think we can simply generalize two groups as large as they are? No, you don't. You are a respectable contemporary.

Equius is a good troll to look to for how the hemospectrum is expected to be treated, as an avid supporter of the caste system (for the most part, it's complicated).

(I ran out of room for images, so this must be continued in a reblog. Or separate post? I'm not exactly sure how this garbage fucking website works.)

[sometipsygnostalgic]

I have a homestuck question (deepest apologies). I once read it for my ex gf in middle school (breakup unrealated she just moved) (mentioning this because I have heard of homestuck related breakups). I liked it. I never was in the fandom. But I hear everyone going homestuck fandom (derogatory) (cringe) (war flashbacks). My question is was it worse than the spop discourse?

The maybe 2 years of spop discourse, which amounts to "catradora bad", "entrapdak bad", and a little bit of "glimmer bad", is absolutely nothing compared to the 10 YEARS of whatever the fuck was going on in homestuck.

EDIT: this isn't a list of "things I think Hussie did wrong" (the majority of it was at worst questionable writing which isn't a sin), it's "things the fandom completely imploded under".

(Hussie HAS done many things wrong, particularly with Hiveswap and WhatPumpkin, but i have not mentioned most of that here)

Brace yourself......

IN UNIVERSE:

Actual slurs and questionable racism in the source content wherein people argued if it was OK or not

Author responds to criticism of this by basing an entire arc on the characters getting high on drugs and having caucasian skin, which is a trolling moment because they had "ambiguous" blank skin before and people argued if that meant the characters werent caucasian

Troll boob discourse

Vriska Serket bullying and eventually murdering a boy she herself crippled

Vriska x Terezi - this universe's CatrAdora, except if Adora forgave Catra before she had decided to stop being a terrible person. Vriska stops hurting Terezi personally but in really it's a SW situation of "shes manipulative of terezi's feelings and is not sorry at all".

Vriska x Meenah - A 13 year old + whatever many years dead person starts dating a 19 year old + whatever many years dead person. For maybe half a chapter before the younger ghost is left for her living 16-year old self. When the two ghosts made out Hussie declared it as.....

"A gay singilarity that will make KorraSami look like republican propoganda". Yeah. Hussie really said this about Homestuck. Before he split up that same pairing and made the alienating transphobic nightmarescape that was the epilogues and HS2.

Dave/Karkat - sincerely one of the better choices Hussie made, and yet, i have never seen anything so aggressively labelled as "gay pandering" by a cishet male fanbase. Best mlm ship i know unfortunately.

GamRezi - this is a canonically abusive pairing where Gamzee emotionally abuses Terezi at her most vulnerable to breaking point. Ends with Terezi trying to kill Gamzee, freaking out at her actions, and Gamzee beating her half to death in broad daylight, before they all die anyway. Why is this controversial? Because......

Gamzee brain washing - there is reason to believe that Gamzee was under a bit of mind control and a LOT of religious influence, so half the fan base treated him like a poor little meow meow, victim to Terezi and then Vriska's abuse, while the other half wanted his head on a stick for abusing/killing characters. Sound familiar?

The retcon - so yeah the story unwrote a whole 2-3 years worth of character progression because of time travel shenanigans and replaced it with a single clipshow flash and a bit of dialogue. People who enjoyed the previous felt bamboozled and copped out.

The End of Homestuck - Lots of talking, then suddenly everyone stops talking completely between the final battle and the ending. The final battle flash was a bit cool, but lacked the substance of other much shorter flashes. Then Act 7 is a 9 minute video of a tadpole making a universe, we didn't see the final bliw get delivered to Lord English, and also.....

Terezi wasn't in the new universe so I bawled my eyes out and made "Where the fuck is Terezi?" into a meme. By and large the most infuriating part because people jumped to the conclusion she killed herself. It's like the whole "PB is dead in Together Again" theory. Or if in She-Ra, a very lonely and fan-favourite character like Entrapta had just vanished after Prime was dragging her over a cliff and was cast out of those much-needed ending reunions. Anyway, Terezi wanted to be with Vriska, who may have died in act 7. So yeah this weird omission became a problem for 6 months before....

The credits. Ok these were mostly OK but it confirmed John was getting depressed, and Terezi threw happiness away and went into space all by herself to find Vriska who was still MIA. This was where HS ended until....

The Epilogues. The Epilogues and HS2 are the biggest shitstorm of content I have seen in my life. And that alone has had enough discourse to make the prior 10 years of Homestuck look like a friendly conversation.

That's just IN UNIVERSE. You want to hear the CREATOR discourse? Try opening that rabbit hole!

Just look at Sarah Z's video, "Homestuck Tried To Sue Me And Then It Got Worse", to see what sort of creator Andrew Hussie has become.

https://youtu.be/gsM9bQvpt_c

[rosemary-is-in-pesterquest]

I am. SO. frustrated. that they keep fucking up davekat. like I just wanna go off. just wanna go the fuck off, man, I didn't even ship them that hard at first but god damn I do now and it's pretty much because the epilogues and HS2 have fucked them up so bad and I know they are better than that. let me just.

okay so originally, davekat is built on themes of mutual defensiveness in response to insecurity. when Dave is first introduced, he portrays himself as a cool guy, and gives us the concept of Strider irony. where a normal person might claim to love something shitty as an ironic joke, or maybe the ironic joke masks sincere enjoyment... Strider irony, according to Dave, has a billion more levels of sincerity and insincerity, to the point where you have no idea what the real intent is. in part, this is due to teen pretentiousness... but in some ways this is a reflection of him genuinely finding his Bro unfathomable, and wanting to protect his own genuine thoughts, opinions, and interests from criticism, without actually coming off as insecure. as time goes by, you can watch him and figure out what is sincere and what isn't... he doesn't actually keep that tight of a lid on things, but that's partially because the game allows him more freedom than he usually has. he at least isn't living in his Bro's shadow anymore. some might extrapolate this to mean that he's experiencing more physical and mental security than usual, while others might just say he's coming into his own via this journey, but the fact of the matter is that he felt the need to hide behind this facade in the first place. and the tricky thing with Dave is that it isn't all fake. it's a weird mixture of who he is, who he wants to be, and what he thinks others will respond well to. his development isn't so much discarding the mask, as it is reconciling what it's made of, and incorporating it into his true self as he matures. he accepts it as a piece of him. it's very subtle, and natural, and true to what growing up is really like. I think this is why so many people like Dave and relate to him so much.

for Karkat, insecurity manifests in the form of being hyper critical of everyone around him. to be honest, this also comes from a deep sense of concern for the people around him, and the fact that his friend group is made of a bunch of loose canons who do destructive shit for fun, and people who are easily dragged into that sort of thing. but the thing that keeps Karkat's hyper critical nature from irritating people too much is that he's also super extra critical of himself. he admits it when he's done something wrong... though admittedly often after it's made people angry at him, and he has a good amount of very sincere apologies that he delivers so that they come off as very sincere and actually work in terms of reconciling with people. Karkat's biggest issue is that criticizing your own internal flaws and actually fixing them are two different things. and while Karkat can identify many problems with himself, he's not always the best at making them go away. it takes him a long time to learn how to change himself, because in order to change yourself, you have to accept the flawed parts of yourself and work with them, rather than just trying to push them out of your sight. this is why his anger at his past and future selves is ultimately unhealthy. it keeps him from truly addressing the fact that his current self is just as subject to those same flaws. for example, if he's talking to a past self and a future self, and his future self is condescending to him, and his past self is naive, then his present self is both of those things to his conversation partners. but he's so repulsed by his own negative attributes that he's not really dealing with them. his saving grace is that everyone can see how hard he's trying, and how worried and scared he is. ultimately, Karkat doesn't want to be the reason for screwing everyone over, and that's more concern for others than anyone ever asked for. it gains Karkat a lot of good will, without him necessarily even realizing what he's doing.

what's excellent about davekat is that they come out the gate fully critical of one another... but neither is willing to back down either. somehow, these two insecure idiots trick each other into defending themselves. and it's brilliant, because they get all their critical bullshit out of the way immediately. they don't fear criticism from one another. they already criticize one another all the time, and it's fine. like, their worst complaints about each other are right out there in the open, and how freeing must that be for a couple of guys who worry about other people's opinions of them so much? Dave has nothing to hide and nothing to prove. Karkat defends his own positive qualities. it's good for them. eventually, they just kind of run out of material... and there's something comforting about knowing that they've said every bad thing they can think of about each other, and none of it was a deal breaker. they're still in each other's business constantly. and that's when they start to learn from each other. see, Karkat is really blunt. he wanders into the thick of things, yelling at people and making mistakes all over the place... and Dave is just more cautious than that. his whole cool guy persona is made to keep that kind of raw emotion from leaking out, and to make every mistake seem like he meant to do that. but Karkat makes mistakes all the time. and apologizes all the time. and he comes out okay. Karkat is sincere. but Karkat is also high strung... and Dave isn't. Dave knows how to chill, and he plans things, and he can sit down with people and calmly talk through a plan. get it in simple terms and hash things out without panicking. Karkat often exhausts himself trying to run around and manage everything, and while it can be kind of endearing to see how much he cares... it's not exactly healthy. Dave has more of a level head, beyond just his cool kid persona, and isn't afraid to make people walk things back and take it from the top. and actually, what Dave and Karkat have in common is that they try really hard for the people around them, and feel great concern for the people they love. when the chips are down, they value similar things. and once they've run out of ineffectual ways to badmouth each other, that's what they have left. probably the thing that bugs them the most about each other is how much they actually have in common in terms of priorities. and while I do think that in their relationship, they'll probably always bicker with each other, that's the core foundation. they're caring people who look out for their group and try to help wherever they can. in essence... they're both knights through and through.

and then HS2 fucks it all up. legit why even confuse anything about their relationship? just let them uncontroversially date, keep it lowkey and tasteful, realize the wonderful potential of their friends razzing them about it a little, and write a better story for them to exist in. god damn. like, seriously, just give them more people to actually care about, because Dave and Karkat feel out of character if they aren't constantly in the lives of a plethora of friends who are important to them. look at them in homestuck. look at everything they do best. of course they wouldn't thrive in HS2, none of the cast even likes each other anymore!! Dave and Karkat were basically instrumental in setting up rosemary, which fits so well with all of their characterization its insane. I just want everyone to periodically go back, and reread homestuck, and remember when these characters were good people.

BASED WENDELL COMING IN WITH THEIR ANALYSIS BETTER THAN WHATEVER THE FUCK THE HS2 WRITERS SHIT OUT 

[hi-i-do-stuff]

OKAY SO HELLO TUMBLR

I know it's been a while but school is almost out! I'll be able to write more in a month or so!

Just wanted to say that on my pinned post i will now be updating if i can take requests and how many stories I am currently writing.

I will do my best to write again, i just got back into homestuck thanks to me introducing it to a friend.

Either way, thank you all for being so patient with me, and I sincerely apologize for anybody I haven't written for yet.

[modernchemical]

i apologize sincerely to all of mt followers and friends for the dreaded homestuck resurgance this happens every 3-4 months. im fine. (indistinguishable morse code beeping in the background) (hard to catch pain in my cold cold eyes)