#i seriously have so much to say abt this topic specifically but i don't want to just ramble on and on

[nemesis-is-my-middle-name]

You know your depiction of Emmet being a package of pure kickass in jailbirds gave me an amazing idea; Emmet, in your work, can use ingos Pokémon because he trusts his brother and knows even without memory how his brother trained his Pokémon. Emmet in the jailbirds au can use at least six Pokémon at once.

This brings me to two questions.

Is Emmet limited to only six? And

…has anyone counted how many Pokémon Ingo has on hand for his path of solitude challenges in the game?

hehehehe first of all yesss recognition

and second of all this is maybe a more serious answer than you were actually wanting, but

ok a little off topic bc i've been itching to share this hc but: i think ingo's path of solitude mons are actually ones he's borrowing from the survey/security corps. it just makes sense! so they're not as well trained, but it's whatever, bc path of solitude generally relies on having you counter a single, specific strategy, so that's all he needs to teach them beforehand.

and then re: the Actual question, and again getting More Serious than you were maybe thinking, but i think doing that six-at-once thing requires a SEVERE shift in tactics. like, the more pokemon you add to the thing at once, the farther back you have to pull your focus, overseeing the entire battlefield rather than focusing in on one or two at a time. were emmet to be facing six opponents that all had their own trainers dedicated to directing them, he'd probably struggle a lot more because he just physically cannot give six different orders at once—but it works out in this scenario bc his opponents are wild pokemon that are completely desynced. he can afford to go big-picture.

BUT like you were saying a big part of it is also training! the other reason he doesn't have to give such specific orders is bc ingo's pokemon already know how to execute a variety of strategies. "focus on doing status moves to everything on the field," "pull in together with a partner so it can shield you from that supereffective attack," "keep up a cover for your team" are all things that the pokemon wouldn't necessarily know how to do—but ingo's trained them to do without much more than a hand signal and one or two words. and then once they have that order, they can react under their own power to changes in the field, without emmet needing to notice and counter every little thing.

and PART of that is that, obviously, those strats come in handy for warden duties, when you ARE in fact facing a horde of wild pokemon and you also have to kind of focus on not being attacked yourself. but that's not the only reason, obviously. he's also just so used to having to train for singles, doubles, and multis, and making sure they can execute all of those altered strategies perfectly. so it comes way easier than it might otherwise, if he was doing all this for the first time, bc of that.

...this is getting really rambly and off topic now

to answer the Actual question, tbqh, i think emmet could go to like, arbitrarily large numbers of pokemon—it's just he'd have to shift more and more into that big-picture mindset, at the cost of being able to focus in on details.

(THAT'S ALSO NOT A THING MOST TRAINERS CAN DO just to be like. i think emmet is Uniquely Good at that focus shift and it's part of why he loves doubles so much and why he's THRILLED about the six-way battle. because you are Right he is Pure Kickass at being a trainer and this situation is his element)

[haunted-pool-noodle]

DISCLAIMER i have not worked my way through all the eris dialogue yet so if she says something that contradicts all of this uhh. ill explode or something idk

anyway i feel like eris and hypnos actually have the potential to become besties when you think about it! like at a glance it does not seem like they'd vibe (and maybe wouldn't for a while) but i absolutely think they could

they both stand out to me bc (and honestly are both my faves bc) they don't really follow the same adherence to rules and responsibility that p much every other god does, particularly in the nyx family. hypnos constantly slacks off at work in hades 1, and the only reason he starts putting in effort is basically bc he wants approval from than and nyx. eris criticizes mel all the time for being so uptight, as well as nyx and than for being such strict rule-followers. they could both really connect over having someone else who is similarly opposed to that workaholic mindset (worth noting for eris, she refers to than as "brother number i dont even know anymore" and specifically doesnt care about him bc he's uptight like everyone else iirc, so i think she'd really appreciate having someone in the fam who isn't that way)

also, like. yes eris can be pretty cruel to mortals but hypnos is also pretty callous towards them most of the time? like he's pretty comfortable with the topic of death (which does make sense, given his job) but he just doesn't take it very seriously at all, like with natural causes he's just like "wow! sucks to be a mortal lol." plus that whole bit when he just suggests that thanatos just kill everyone all at once so they can hang out more like his ass does not care 😭 so i dont think he'd really care about eris tormenting humans, and in turn i think she might really like someone finally just being chill about it rather than looking down on her basically for being strife. also she'd probably find it funny how nonchalant he can be abt this, and in turn hypnos would enjoy her particular brand of chaos lol

thematically though, part of eris' whole thing is about how she feels ostracized from the rest of the fam bc strife is literally in her nature, while hypnos is shunned bc of his constant sleeping. both are pushed out bc of their very natures. but where they differ is hypnos prioritizes his relationships to the rest of the family and is willing to fight against his nature in order to do his job at the House and thereby impress/appease nyx and than, restoring his relationships to them at the cost of his personal happiness. meanwhile eris believes in being true to herself above all else, and if that means severing ties, then so be it. she mentions at a few different points that she's not going to change her nature for what anyone else wants, and that they shouldn't be surprised at how she acts, given that she's literally strife incarnate (an argument I've seen plenty of people give wrt hypnos sleeping at the job while being sleep incarnate). i think if they interacted more they could actually learn a lot from each other and maybe both move closer to the middle of that spectrum

also hypnos is usually seen as the childish one throughout hades 1 but eris is specifically stated to be one of the youngest in the nyx family so i would love to see some older brother hypnos content 🙏

[horizon-verizon]

https://www.tumblr.com/evebestthinker/751366825102770176/the-way-he-looks-at-her-as-if-no-one-else?source=share

It's funny that their relationship is so romanticized. Whether by showrunners or even people in general.

Corlys and Rhaenys in the original material have a bigger age difference than Daemyra, yet no one talks about grooming.

Rhaenys, from what I remember, certainly chose Corlys, but Rhaenyra also chose Daemon and everyone prefers to say that she was groomed to want her sexy old uncle... 🙄

The fact is that, apart from this age difference, Corlys only wanted Rhaenys to be queen for her own person and the name of her house, let's be realistic. And in Fire and Blood, it was actually Laenor and not Rhaenys who was actually proposed to the throne with Viserys.

Unlike Daemon, Corlys has also always shown a genuine interest in the throne, whether in HOTD or Fire and Blood. This guy fights for power and always goes against his wife's wishes in general.

Yet they are supposedly a great relationship ? A great marriage of love ? A couple goal ? People's double standards are astounding to me.

I will add that Corlys, aged 60 in Fire and Blood, is having sex, from what I remember, with a girl under 16 or in that age range it seems to me. In any case, a close age that Rhaenys was when he married her at the time, showing that he has a type of age range for women, unlike Daemon who in Fire and Blood was with women of varying ages.

So basically the directors of HOTD said to themselves that Corlys and Rhaenys would make a superb love story ? WTF seriously ? They keep talking about Daemyra's age difference but obviously it's only a problem when it's them and not the others.

Actually, what I'm trying to say is that... most of the criticisms leveled at Daemon : Bad father, bad husbands, way too old for his ultimate wife, power-hungry, throne-seeking, loving the girls are rather young... Well it's actually Corlys who ticks all the boxes. Show and or Book.

Disclaimer: This is to note the discrepancy that fandom does when it tries to bring up age differences, how biased people are towards Daemon. You can look to la-pheacienne's notes about GRRM and age differences HERE, where we talk abt Doylist vs Watsonian readings of GRRM's storytelling and over age diff creepiness vs what story the dude is telling in-world.

It mimics how people will say "Targs are colonizers" and then they ignore what the Westerosi did to the giants and twstsote/children of the forest. There's a clear bias and lack of reading being done, because yeah I agree. Like, Corlys is an impressive man, but that has little to do with this conversation topic. (For all who don't know, Corlys was 37 when 16-yr old Rhaenys chose him as her husband; Rhaenyra was born in 97, Daemon in 81; RhaneysxCorlys has a 21 diff, Daemyra has a 16 diff)

In the show, it makes way less sense as to why Rhaenys & Corlys are together. I did a TikTok abt it, but here it is:

Rhaenys has constantly said that she considers a "good" leader AND [good] person to be one who goes out of their way to avoid violence, war, or great conflicts. Someone who takes measures to make sure their own actions do not lead to conflicts that may hurt even more than themselves. Even at the cost of one's own political advantages. She values what HotD has implied is "self-restraint" & defends Rhaenyra from Corlys' saying everything is her fault [specifically by reasoning that out of all the men who are there, Rhaenyra is the one who is trying to not go to war or any battle]. She is also supposed to care very much for her daughter, Laena, and her own grandchildren through her. Supposedly above Corlys' interests (episodes 6-7). Compare this to Corlys' self-interest evidenced by his pushing for a Velaryon-marriage through his 12 year old daughter & keeping Lucerys as his heir DESPITE the would-have-been-clear discontent from Vaemond abt the Driftmark succession PLUS how the Velaryon boys wete not his grandkids biologically AND Rhaenys advis[ing] him to name [their] granddaughters instead. With every value and action these two take for & against their family and against the other's desires….For what the HotD writers & whoever responsible wrote for these two…. Why do we believe that this ship is one of the best ones --or even makes logical sense-- to earn the reputation of being one of the best during this part of ASoIaF history?! The [show]relationship doesn't stand up on its own without the looks & performances of its actors. It also gets away with the nonsensical dynamic in two other things:

the constant defense of "two canons"

the many time jumps that remove any possibility for us or the writers to show us how these two actually like each other & continue to like each other

Once again, Daemon was never a good person, but he is also not what is depicted in HotD and grooming does not = DV. they are not the same, thus you do not have to include DV with grooming by saying it "eventually" happens with groomers. Espe when GRRM has a track record for just stating abuse when it happens (Jaehaerys with Alysanne, her pushed to keep giving birth; Robert Baratheon with Cersei):

[yonpote]

I just saw your post about the underbelly of the phandom and you put into words something I've felt about this fandom for EVER. Like, this fandom specifically is so different to any other I've been in. maybe it's just because the phandom is pretty small and tight-knit? We all kind of know and recognize and are friends with each other, and I think that leads to us having more... idk, personal? In depth conversations not only about Dan and Phil's content, but them as people, and our own behaviour as fans. It's a very interesting ecosystem. And I think because we all kind of know each other more personally than you might know people in bigger fandoms, we kind of keep each other accountable? People aren't afraid to speak out when someone crosses an established fandom boundary. When someone goes a little too far with their speculation, or when someone writes a fic that's just... grossly inappropriate. We all kind of come together to re-establish where the line is. And despite us all being pretty friendly and familiar, there's still very noticeable cliques, and people in different categories of fandom. You have your fic writers, your gif makers, your archivers/phandom historians, etc. and the archiving is a whole topic in itself. I've never been part of a fandom that takes archiving so seriously. I don't know if this is still the case, but I remember a few years ago there were entire blogs dedicated to screenshotting and reposting their Twitter likes. Their likes. As if any of that matters. As if any of us will ever need to go back and find out what Dan liked on Twitter at 4:56pm on may 8th 2016. Like who cares? And yet it's something that was taken so seriously. Sometimes the phandom feels less like a fandom and more like its own little micro-society with its own rules and customs and traditions and methods of record keeping and documentation of our history. It's completely baffling.

(hello i was gonna write more abt this ask but i couldnt figure out what i was trying to say so i'll just post what i did keep last night lol thank u for sending this <3)

omg wait that thing about the phandom being a microsociety is so fuckin real like i cannot think of another fandom that has these kinda rules and nuances that we built and part of that is, as much as it sucks to say, due to the speculative nature of this fandom. like i think the reason we became so tight-knit was because discussions of that nature HAD to be relegated to dm's, private asks, locked accounts, isolated forums, etc. i think it was the community's own way of reinforcing the boundaries that dnp wanted to set up. but honestly dnp themselves weren't yet good at setting boundaries themselves so when the boundaries WERE first set i think maybe people just didnt get it cuz like, wait but dan youre my bestie why are you putting up this barrier :(

[iamanartichoke]

In that recent thread w bardicious u mentioned this

Which felt straight out of fanfic and I am almost 90% in all seriousness convinced that Tom or someone has an AO3 and/or tumblr account but that's another topic lmfao.

I am soo curious what u have to say on this topic if u wanna talk abt it

Haha thanks for asking! lmao well it's mostly a joke but also at this point it's kinda getting to not be a joke? No, it is a joke, and I will continue to disclaim that several times bc this fandom latches onto things and runs with them and I don't even want to open that Pandora's box.

But, the seeds were planted awhile ago (maybe a month?) when this post was going around - basically, Tom had a surprisingly accurate assessment of the main categories into which Loki fans fell, regarding Loki's characteristics, and so some of us sat up like, and how would you know, Mr. Hiddleston?

So that was a fun time for all, and then after the first episode came out, I made a post about the little things that felt weirdly specific to things we've discussed at length on tumblr? With the same kind of tone/phrasing, I mean.

Then there's the professor bit, which I need to add to my list, but basically we all know "Professor Tom" is a nickname that gets tossed around fairly often in the fandom, the joke being about how he often goes on at-length about things even if no one actually asked. In episode 2, Loki spoke up at length about the difference between two powers, when no one actually asked, and gets hit with a Professor Loki.

Next, a couple of days ago, the post going around was about how Tom apparently, in addition to giving everyone on set in-depth lectures on Loki's character, showed up at Owen's house specifically to talk to him about Loki, and while this is hilarious, for me I kinda had the feeling like, okay Tom's probably not just sitting on that much meta, it's gotta come out somehow, he's probably secretly right here beside us, commenting and offering his own perspectives lol jk unless ...?

Finally, the bit you quoted - not just the metaphor or the way he delivers it feels like fanfic but I felt like there were so many, like, fanfic/fandom tropes? I mean, Loki's magic is always underutilized and needs to be fixed: Popular fandom topic check. All of the references to Loki being a magician? Fic check. Loki is way more powerful than they ever show on-film: Popular fandom topic check. (He telekinetically threw a building I'm-). Loki singing for one reason or another: Fic check. Loki complaining about physical activity: Fic check. (This happens a lot in pre-canon fics when he and Thor go on quests.) He and Sylvie on the train and there was only one bed booth: Fic check. There is literally even a Thorki fic called Vows from a Dagger (and it's very well-written, btw, if any Thorki friends are reading this and haven't read it) in which Loki gives Thor a dagger as a symbol of his love and devotion, which is the first thing I thought of but also just in general, the ~poetry~ of it all felt like fic to me. So, fandom and fic check. Hence the bit up above where I'm like, okay for real now, which one of you is secretly Tom and can I read your fics please lmao.

But anyway. It really is just a joke that I personally think is really funny bc like imagine if Tom has been lurking all this time and ended up giving himself away bc he kept slipping fandom/fic tropes into the tv series and we're all like

so yeah. But each time I post about this, I must include the disclaimer that it is a joke, I'm not really serious, I don't really believe Tom lurks around here bc I'm sure he has better things to do - but, the "evidence" I've compiled just makes me feel like, if it turned out he did, I would not be surprised at all.

[domjaehyun]

Hahahaha…no but seriously. Mark. Hnnnggg his voice is so sexy. His moans are probably… wow he’s sick. He has a sexy voice and HE KNOWS IT. I KNOW HE KNOWS! SLUT!!! 😵‍💫😵‍💫

NO FR FR FR HE . i was thinking abt this earlier like . in OK! specifically, i think that when it comes to The Iconic Line and how they all deliver it differently, i think that i wasn't even ranking mark #1 for his pronunciation, nor do i think i even actually considered Pronunciation very much bc like . i ranked jeno over yangyang for that line but yangyang sounds much more fluid speaking english than jeno so clearly that's not the criteria i was going for kdgfskj

it was like . edge factor + charisma i think? like mark sounds Like A Rapper. He sounds LIKE A RAPPER it was SEXY i can't do this o hmy g od he sounds so hot saying that line . maybe its not abt like whether they pronounce the words "right" but his accent and speech pattern DEF plays a factor for me... like...

(under the cut, you will find a Very Long rant i went on about mark's rapping style vs. other members' rapping styles and quite a few other slightly tangential topics... apologies...)

i attempted to bold and color the parts of mark's line that just make his delivery my personal favorite, but as you can see.... i pretty much did the whole... thing... rip. anyway:

MARK: "my baby says she wanna dance with a ghost, she wants to leave me, uh" >> LIKE. okay . okay . not even just this line but his "YEAH" right before the line . he sounds like . Right . like he doesn't sound silly at all he's SELLING IT like do i know what that shit even means? NO!! BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF HIS BABY DIDN'T SAY SHE WANNA DANCE W A GHOST!! AND SHE WANTS TO LEAVE HIM!! UH!! like there's so much charisma in his delivery and he raps LIKE A RAPPER. (or at least far more like a rapper than . other idols that come to mind)

there are a lot of idols who are "rappers" but are not Rapping. johfam, i'm sorry, i'm coming for him for a second. (edit: so by "a second," it turns out i meant that i was gonna keep bringing him up... apologies) have y'all seen that post that's like "johnny raps like he's reading the periodic table" or smth? bc THEY'RE RIGHT!!! LIKE THEY'RE SO RIGHT !! yes, johnny is fluent in english just like mark, but . they deliver their lines so differently.

i think that mark likes to experiment with his voice and see what he can do which is SOOOOOO fun and sexy i love that he's not just trying to Stick To His "Thing" like he wants to grow and do better and that's soooooo sexy and attractive oh god... but like, mark, to me, does have a bit of an advantage when it comes to rapping bc he DOES speak with a more, like, "urban" speech pattern than, like, johnny. who's from the suburbs in chicago. mark lived in QUEENS like he . he sounds Edgier if that makes sense... there's a nuance to the way he stresses sounds and pronounces certain syllables that, to me, feel Really Natural and fitting for, like, rapping.

ppl have def said before that mark's speech pattern borders on a blaccent at times, and i'm not even refuting that; if ppl hear it, then they hear it, yknow? who am i to tell them what they do and don't hear? but like for the most part, i personally don't think he has a blaccent–when i think of those like non-black tiktokers who feign a blaccent and a rly like "hood" persona, it feels really disingenuous and disgusting, tbh bc like . even if you Grew Up Around Black People... i'm willing to bet the black people you allegedly grew up with were NOT talking like that dsjfghdkl (also how the specific brand of white "hood" girls on tiktok all talk the exact same....yet are from entirely different areas of the country....yet got their accents from living around black people.... but black ppl from baltimore don't sound like black people from louisiana, so what's up w that, babes?)

BUT LIKE okay back on topic: sometimes, when tiktokers like the ones i just mentioned, the ones that make disgusting and reductive caricatures out of what they believe to be "Black Culture," are getting gathered by ppl in their stitches and duets and stuff, there are nonblack people who put these weirdos in their places. and these people say they grew up around black people, and You Can Tell !! they don't have a blaccent, they're not forcing anything at all, but there is a specific way that they've picked up on and been influenced by the speech patterns of the black ppl they grew up with !!

i think that, to me, mark seems more like he rly did just have more like... black influence growing up? i'm not saying he was invited to The Cookout or whatever but i think that he was more likely than, say, johnny, to be exposed to ppl of diff backgrounds (not by much,,, in like person,, except for the time where he lived in NYC, which he did for 5 years during a time in human development where we learn a Lot From Our Peers) and like . he's always liked rap music, y'know? so he most likely listened to rap music (which is a Black genre...like it was created, developed, popularized, AND most successfully done by black people) and started picking up on the way they spoke !!

like okay quick sidebar: i have never not attended PWIs. i was socialized for the majority of my life, especially my most formative years, around rich, mostly white girls who were the daughters of socialites. there were other non-white students present, ofc, but we all . for the most part . spoke very similarly . so much so that, like, when i'd go to summer camp or smth and interact w kids whose socioeconomic and racial backgrounds were actually more similar to mine than my classmates but had been socialized to speak/behave differently (note: this is in no way a bad thing. i just want to make that abundantly clear.) and like !! it was a bit of a culture shock for me AND them !! it also took me time to, like, get used to it bc i didn't speak the way they spoke, y'know? so i started learning to code switch and with time i developed a way i spoke At School amongst My (preppy/rich/usually white) School Peers and a way i could speak in more comfortable settings around not-rich, not-preppy, not-white peers!! but that kind of language development is Learned and Developed, yknow? sometimes i'm not even aware that i'm slipping more into, like, AAVE when i'm talking to my mom, and she's like Oh??? what does that mean??? and i'm like "oops." so there are terms, obviously, that black people use, but there are also certain like . ways to pronounce things that differ depending on your background !! i have elements in my speech pattern that sound very like . i rly cannot find the right term rn but i have like two different influences for my speech pattern and they're both very different, but if i pay attention to myself when i speak, i tend to use elements from both speech patterns in, like, the same sentence dgfkjslkf SO. TLDR: language and speech patterns are very much developed and are fostered by the community that you grow up in as well as the media you expose yourself to.

ANYWAY back on track . as someone who i think had more black influence in his upbringing than, again just to keep the metaphor going, johnny, i think mark developed a speech pattern that, in some ways, echoes how some black people speak !! but i also think that MY upbringing has a lot to do w how i receive mark's rapping lines as opposed to johnny's or smth. mark's speech pattern is far more familiar to me than johnny's, i think, and like... because he sounds more like What Rap Music Artists I Know sound like than johnny, i'm like, yeah, that sounds good, that sounds right, that sounds familiar !! mark has a much better sense of how to stress certain syllables and manipulate certain sounds because i think he grew up with rap music far more than johnny did and was probably around more ppl of different backgrounds !!! like––again, no offense to johfam, i come in peace––johnny raps like a suburban dad at a barbecue reading off the instructions on how to work the grill. to me, he doesn't deliver the lines...he just says them. mark, imo, delivers his lines and, like, seems to make more of a concerted effort to sell it, yknow?

now, to be fair, i think that mark is at an advantage compared to johnny bc as we can see, he gets way more lines and opportunities to practice and improve himself. i feel like if johnny was given as much attention by,,,,, idk the producers? coaches? the music team? you get what i mean hopefully sdfgkhdf,,,, as mark has access to (or even, like, a fraction of their time, yknow?) i bet he could at least be coached more on, like, How to deliver certain lines and i'm not even saying he has to Sound "Black" or even Sound Like Mark; i'm saying that there are times when he's singing/rapping or smth (in english bc i am only able to critique his english delivery obvi) where he says smth and i'm like . Suburban Dad At A Barbecue.... they could at least give johnny pointers on how to kinda ease off of that affect he uses ??? idk ??? bc there are def artists in the western rap industry that don't rap the way i'm "used to" or the way i'd expect... like lil dicky !!!! i mean this so genuinely: lil dicky is a super entertaining rapper and i think he's very talented !!! i think that, though, he has a Very Unique rapping delivery that isn't common and also isn't really very compatible for, like, featuring on other people's songs. lil dicky's THING is like "hey i'm kind of a corny/dorky white dude but i can rap!!" and like. yes you are and yes you can king 💖 but lil dicky's style of music would be out of place in Another Rapper's style, but he could invite other rappers to his style. for example like his song w snoop dogg called professional rapper !! lil dicky's audience KNOWS how he sounds already; they're expecting that sound from him, and they know it's different than "typical" rappers! when snoop dogg is on lil dicky's song, it's bringing in, like, what we more typically expect from rap music (snoop dogg) which contrasts with what lil dicky does!! i'm simplifying a lot bc i am realizing how much i've written and i'm aghast tbh so . if you want me to elaborate on the following analogy, just ask!!

more traditional sounding, "cool" rappers: snoop dogg, mark lee

less traditional sounding, "uncool" rappers: lil dicky, johnny

when SM gives 127 songs with rap parts, they are 100% always aiming for sounding more traditional sounding, "cool" (why do you think we hear words like "ethnic," "urban," "street," "hip-hop" all the time? i'm not saying i agree w their word choices, i'm just pointing it out to clarify my point) in their songs.

when mark raps his lines, he is being a more traditional sounding, "cool" rapper. his vibes are consistent with the sound they're aiming for. when johnny raps his lines, he is being a less traditional sounding, "uncool" rapper. his vibes are inconsistent with the sound they're aiming for (to me; i feel like their production team prob doesn't 100% agree bc like . they're obvi still having him do what he does, y'know) so if their production team wants a more traditional sounding, "cool" sound, then they should coach johnny (as well as other members who get rap parts on their songs) how best to fit the sound they're looking for... does that make sense at all?

(also just while i'm thinking abt it: this can apply to jaehyun, too !! he def has had some rap moments where i was like Baby, Let's Not Do That, Actually... (think dancing in the rain) bc he sounds, at times, more similar to johnny's "style" than he does to mark's, ig. but i think that not only is the SM production team wising up, but also jaehyun is improving!! bc they're not giving jaehyun the same kinds of lines they'd give mark or johnny, rly. they give jaehyun lines where he can talk fast, he can speak low/deep/huskier, kinda be "sexy" when rapping? kinda like whisper-rapping (think abt bring the noize) and/or somewhat melodic sing-talking rapping (think lemonade) and etc. so !! i'm not just coming for johnny i promise i rly am just using him as an example !! i think SM's production team is essentially trying to fit a square peg (johnny) into a round hole (edgy/"cool" rap lines) and it really doesn't seem to be working, at least to me. i think SM should figure out, like, what they want johnny to Do and what he's Best At and what he could Improve On. bc i'm gonna be real, his lil monologue in favorite (vampire) was NOT it. at all. it was the mark tuan-ification of johnny suh (if you don't know what i mean, check out this song by got7; if the timestamp doesn't work, go to 2:30-2:40...yeah.) and i was not a fan at all in the slightest dfsgjsdlk)

OKAY I'M RLY WRAPPING THIS UP IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT I WENT ON FOR THIS LONG esp bc like . you poor, poor soul, anon... i'm so sorry you didn't ask for this at all kdjsfgkljdfk BUT IN SOME SORT OF SUMMARY: there are obviously very different, distinct ways and styles of rapping and people are naturally going to have preferences and opinions !! i just think that sometimes SM's production team attempts to Do Too Much in some of their songs... they could either help/coach the members whose voices don't quite fit the vibes they're going for OR they could compose songs and parts that DO fit these members' voices !! i don't want it to seem like i'm over here going "give [insert member] more/less lines!!" bc i'm not !! i just want SM's team to like...play to their strengths... and either accommodate or hone each member's individual charm so they all get an actual genuine chance to put their best foot forward y'know? don't try and combine, like....uh.... glazed donuts and ranch dressing to make one very odd, potentially icky dish... find separate recipes where we can make use of the glazed donuts AND we can make use of the ranch dressing. hhhHHHhh yeah okay i think i said my piece finally...

anyway....i went on SUCH a long rant holy shit i'm sorry that's my bad dfgsdf I BLAME THE ADDERALL I TOOK EARLIER IT MAKES ME VERY VERY VERY CHATTY.

[atalana]

re: the nonverbal thing w kris i’m also autistic and go nonverbal sometimes and i was literally talking abt that in regards to kris yesterday to my friend bc like. the soul probably would still make them talk? which ok first of all fucking sucks bc we have no idea how to tell when kris goes nonverbal or not so we can’t really…not do that. and second of all i was like well fuck at this point theyve probably gotten used to it so the first time they go nonverbal after the soul is gone they’re just like “well fine guess they’re doing the talking again—wait.”

(granted i said it in a more jokey tone bc if i was possessed i absolutely would be like “fuck it you do the talking. if you’re in here you might as well do something useful” for situations where it’s really unhelpful for me to go nonverbal LMAO. also bc if i think abt this too much in seriousness i’ll cry. kris makes me so emotional)

honestly i'd be really interested in exploring if that was actually possible with a non verbal autistic kris or not?

bc like. i know for me when i get non verbal i physically cannot force myself to say words, it tends to get triggered by me wanting to say something but being afraid to and already in a state of anxiety so my brain just reroutes to "don't say anything", and it feels like almost a physical block between my tongue and teeth where i just. can't. (usually the solution to that is waiting a little and trying to calm down and then changing the topic entirely, because talking about something low risk is easier to formulate and that can work me back into being able to say words. if it's not caused by wanting to say something in particular, and rather just general stress, then yeah distract and calm and i'll get back to being able to talk eventually)

and like. yes you as the player are in charge of kris to a certain extent but you also have to choose between options they essentially present to you, you can't speak for them beyond the occasional comment (and like, i forget which line it was, but there was one choice that was like "say [x]", the mean route, or the kind one specifically said "lie and say [x]" like kris made their opinion very clear)

and "...." has been an option before

so while i don't mean to downplay how rough it is for kris to not be in control of themselves, i think if they physically couldn't talk, having every dialogue choice be "...." could be really interesting?

(that said, you do also raise the question of, if i have no choice but to say these words, does that bypass the mental block around saying them, which is not a question i can answer since possession is not a thing irl and if it were i would not want to be in kris' shoes)

(but like i'd read a fic exploring the ways in which a non verbal autistic kris navigates and changes the game)

[babiewonho]

can u write an essay on kihyun now please don't just saw beat root thanks QUEEN uwu

kihyun’s personality is so funny and contradictory to me lmao like he has such a big personality and um wow i just got distracted bc i put on drew barrymore by sza and it was playing at half speed bc i just played the COME GET YALL JUICE vine at half speed but anyways

first and foremost i think kihyun is very Capable like kihyun is like. so good at being an adult like he just knows how to do everything it’s so weird it’s like he was born just Knowin. like he’s just so confident and he’s good at speaking most of the time and like he said he would go to vocal lessons while working two jobs that weren’t even close to each other like he’d have to take the train and he’s so determined even going to school like he’s been doing while promoting as an idol like he just has a really type a personality and he wants to be good at everything and he has the drive to achieve that as much as any human can it’s very respectable and imo a very attractive quality like i feel like if i asked him how to do anything he’d know for some reason

he’s very charming and he knows it and sometimes it’s greasy LMAO like when they had to do the pick up lines in that video and mx were dying in the bg but it’s very effective i think that’s really good for networking etc and he’s so friendly to other ppl he acts like he already knows them but he isn’t like…overstepping boundaries which is imo the way to become friends with someone wh said one time that to get close with ppl you just have to act close i think and that’s what kihyun does he seems very sociable and friendly and easy to talk to like he makes an effort to keep the conversation going and get on the speaker’s level/help them understand the topic 

tying in with him being rly capable he’s so good at cleaning n cooking like why is he so damn responsible lmao share some of those skills w/ me…wtf…but like wow that’s rly a whole adult i bet he even does his taxes on time but he takes his work so seriously and like he’s not even a dancer but he puts so much focus n energy into dance and it shows he’s so impressive…i…i hate it

so! i think what makes ppl misunderstand kihyun is he has this weird like…sharp outside/soft inside thing going on…coughs tsundere   but by that i mean  he’s not Genuinely mean   but he plays along well with others esp 93 line they have a very cozy n roasty dynamic going on and he’s quick to tease others in a friendly way unfortunately ppl take that as ONE personality archetype the “savage” just like shakespeare invented and that ONE personality trait supercedes ALL OTHERS n suddenly kihyun hates everyone like false…hello he’s just bein a scorpio (he’s born n like the First day of saggitarius but he himself has said he’s a scorpio n the time he was born rly indicates that so im just going with scorpio these   are the Facts) he ALSO…isn’t very comfortable with “mushy” stuff he’s fine giving compliments but when they get into genuine emotional things it’s not that he gets weirded out  it’s more like   it’s okay until He has to get mushy abt his own feelings at least from what i noticed

i was actually surprised bc kihyun is somewhat easily embarrassed and i didn’t expect him to be so nurturing on an emotional level like hugging changkyun when he cried, he sympathy cries w/ wonho lmao, comforting wonho when he cried during that one v live. i thought he’d be more of a supportive but awkward type in that situation but he actually empathizes really well. that’s why i think kihyun’s personality is so like  contrary there’s all these traits that seem to be the opposite of each other but melt together just fine in his personality

but he actually has a very nourishing presence he just seems to have like a different rule for himself and he doesn’t like to get all deep or w/e that’s so scorpio of him…it embarrasses him lol he doesn’t like emotional vulnerability if he thinks it opens him up in a negative way but here he goes again with the contradictions- he’s emotionally open with children and pets. he’s amazing with children and animals n feels a lot of love n affection towards them as well as the members but honestly i’ve practically raised my little brother from infancy to like four years old and i have very high standards for child care but kihyun takes such pride in his work as always n he luvs the Babies so he is very mm meticulous abt it. i got stressed when the kid’s heads weren’t supports while getting sleepy in their chairs n then the moment i got stressed kihyun’s hand wld fly out to support their heads and he held them and esp the sick babie :(( even when he cried kihyun didn’t get panicked as many ppl too and hand him off to one of the more experienced ladies he comforted the babie n held it n also

during mxray season 2 when they met the kids again he got all worried abt i cant remember which kid it was…jongwon! i think he was worried shownu wld hurt him by accident in the bounce house thingie lmao which i was worried abt too so he was like be gentler and my heart…she soared he rly cares abt them :(( in a very genuine way n also! at the batting cages v live there were kitties and he, wonho, and ck were worried abt them getting hurt. he’s just a very caring n loving person and he does engage in a lot of skinship like they said on the psychology analysis part of mxray but i think rather than physical affection he shows love through actions like waking the members up and finding stuff for wonho etc ordering the other members around n leading them in the right direction he definitely has a BIG leadership quality n a desire to be in control but he doesn’t let himself like usurp shownu’s position lmao he just relishes the times when he gets power

i always say it’s more like shownu, minhyuk, and kihyun are three coleaders and i think they all compliment each other extremely well and kihyun is a rly good mc esp in things like mon happy radio he and minhyuk are rly entertaining and work together really well which is rly cool

he rly rly loves the members in a very fond way they make him smile a lot and what i think is so funny is i think kihyun originally has more of a tendency in situations like that there’s something historically in comedy called a “straight man” (i know) where someone else acts like an idiot and this person basically doesnt find it amusing n acts serious or upset kasjfsf and i thought kihyun wld be like that but i think mx just has such a goofy energy and kihyun often engages in the goofiness but that seems to me like something that probably changed when he met the boys i can’t seem him being like that arnd other ppl but i think he’s very fond of their dynamic and embraces it now like he laughs in this Specific way when the members all get Ridiculous like he’s in fond disbelief like when they kept singing the UFC song!!! in no exit like he’s lovingly saying “these idiots” in his head it’s really cute tbh he’s just very often Fondly Exasperated like when mh ate the whipped cream at the end of that one vid/when ck ate food of the plates from other ppl in mxray you can just tell he has so much love for his members 

as for his relationship with 93 line that’s just pure love n friendship to the point of comfortably making fun of each other n i really hate when ppl act like it’s genuine hatred bc you can’t make jokes like that with people if you genuinely dislike them they’re just all three very comfortable with and fond of each others and build off each other very well comedically and the teams switch up as to who is making fun of who and like?? if they rly hated each other things like mon happy radio with mh and kh and the times when mh was absent and hw was the replacement would be possible. they get along fine for that and it’s like an HOUR long of just them together and they make jokes and they compliment each other like anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows they don’t actually hate each other but :) had 2 say that

CAPABILITY ASIDE kihyun has these moments of hilarious like…airheadedness   as demonstrated in aleena’s amazing gifset of kihyun being dumb. he’s so smart but he just lapses on the most ridiculous things aksjfasf it’s so funny  kihyun, staring at a seatbelt: does this go around my neck   is this the Neck Belt  Oh..  just youthful naivete which the other members bring up sometimes n his face when they got their first win :(( cld it be…kihyun is a soft babie!! it Cld !! :D

also vocal wise i’m not a Professional or anything but he’s rly one of the best vocals in kpop like breath support and not singing with strained notes and vocal agility he’s just so good he and shownu are actually different imo than a lot of kpop vocals who just sing n half of it’s like  rhythmic yelling lmao like he and shownu can both sing BALLADS well and with CONTROL they’re so incredible and kihyun has a pretty wide range imo it’s very healthy singing with lots of support 

anyways i wrote WAY more than i thought i was gonna be able to abt him there’s deadass like 1.7k words right here lmao like yall readin this? eyes emoji anyways i hope this makes some sense it’s 4 am…anyways i think kihyun’s personality is fascinating and i feel like i have quite a few personality traits in common with him but also i wanna arm wrestle him so damn bad im not even reading back through this and checking it’s too much LMAO