#i poorly describe what a schizoid personality disorder is

[midnightmarev]

as much as i desperately want and need to move out of my childhood home, i also know i'm gonna miss it, dearly. all the open space outside, living in the middle of nowhere, our own little forest and so much space to run around on, where i have so many memories. cutting the grass; running around with Happy (our late dog) through 11 years; birthdays where we played rundbold (idk the english translation for it that would make sense, i'm horribly danish when it comes to games), m-bold (again, don't know the english synonym), etc.; planting trees and looking at their growth progress; skt hans/midsummer bonfires (they were always massive) with family friends; way more memories than what i can put down into words. i'm just really gonna miss the open space and not being in close proximity to other people, being able to just walk around outside for quite a bit and still being on our ground. but i also really need to get out of this house and away from my family. it's not good for my mental health to be around my siblings and parents anymore. the tone is almost always hostile and toxic. i find myself hiding out in my room more often than not now.

i'm working on getting an apartment meant for young people who are in or are about to return to school. i'm currently on a waiting list for one, but i need one as soon as possible, and i don't think that's possible for where i'm gonna start school in January. i have a letter from my case worker that gives me permission to move into one of these apartments up to a year before i start school, due to my personality disorder and just desperate need to get away from my family.

oh yeah, and if you didn't know, i got diagnosed with a schizoid personality disorder a few months ago. it has nothing to do with schizophrenia, they only share the schizo prefix and that's it. think if autism and introvertism had a baby but that baby could understand decipher jokes and sarcasm with no trouble and have zero social battery and very little need for actually being social. yeah, i think that sums it up well enough while being brief.

fun fact: it's the least known about personality disorder despite an estimated 4% of the entire population having it. most only figure it out because they went to get something else diagnosed or get screened for. we were screening me for autism after i'd seen a psychologist for depression and anxiety and she could tell there was something else as well, either autism or some or more personality disorders. then i saw a psychiatrist and we screened me for autism and she was like, "hol' up, this ain't the 'tism, it's spd!" and now here we are :)

[pageofheartdj]

I get it, and yeah it sounds a bit like queer was a slur and then reclaimed, but going back to the psychopath example. It was given anew name to be kore accurate and to help people with the diagnosis escape the slandering of their mental medical condition. And yeah, psychopath, psycho, sociopath, those are still words with hefty negative connotations, and a lot of that was to do with how people learned about it (psychopath used to be the murderer diagnosis. Some still consider it that.)

And people should be able to teach themselves more, but think if it this way. If someone wasnt into psychology, where would they run into this diagnosis? How can someone learn about something if they never hear or know about it? NPD is still fairly knew and fairly unknown, at least in the greater societal common knowledge. It's hard to expect people to change and learn when they never know they're supposed to.

Which isnt an excuse to treat people with NPD poorly, it would be a pretty shitty one if it was, but its moreso taking into perspective how few people actually are aware of the diagnosis in the first place.

Renaming it to something more medically accurate would allow for people who dont "present" their NPD ""correctly"" to get the help they need, allow psychologists to be more accurate in how they could treat and understand someone with the condition, and remove the negative stereotypes.

Also mental health in general isnt destigmatize. It's better than it used to be, but it isnt just a "everyone knows" sort of thing. Some people still believe depression leads to suicide no matter what, or than ptsd mames people violent machines that could kill you if you moved wrong around them. That sociopaths would replace you if they could or psychopaths are children destined to kill. Some people still think that going to a therapist means you're broken or wrong, and that alone could make people ditch you entirely.

Just like, the scope of it all is that mental health alone is still a very stigmatized field and expecting people whose only knowledge of mental health is that you ""arent right"" to teach themselves and be more mindful isnt going to change how people treat the disorder.

Renaming it would also get rid of any stereotypes or subconscious biases the psychologists could have too, and then would separate a mental medical condition away from a work that has been used as an insult for hundreds of years before the diagnosis was even thought of.

Like going back to queer. It wasnt an insult originally, in the earliest terms when it was getting claimed it just meant odd or different, but in a small way. Like one would say "it's a queer day, isnt it?" if it was different than your usual day. It only became an insult once queer became tied to the queer community. Like how gay originally meant happy or cheerful and became an insult once it referred to a sexuality.

Saying renaming narcissism is like renaming queer isnt an accurate comparison because narcissism came from a background of insult, queer comes from a background of neutral different. That would be like if queer had been called horrid instead. Horrid comes from horrible, terrible, things like that. Expecting people to change those definitions that have been around for centuries isnt the same as taking a neutral or positive word and changing the definition.

Idk, I think it's more unfair to the condition to keep its name than to change it. Like how aspergers became part of the autistic spectrum to move away from the nazi origin of aspergers. Or how schizophrenia is more of a spectrum including schizoid personality disorder now.

But yeah those are my thoughts. It's more unfair to me to diagnose people with such a negatively loaded preexisting word than it is to change the name and make it more accurate, inclusive, and less stigmatized.

Hmmm yeah maybe, maybe you are right. Like ADHD had different names before finding something more fitting, maybe NPD wouldn't lose from changing a name to describe better the condition. I doubt people will stop assossiating the two, but it might help?

I think narcissism was supposed to have more neutral meaning. It's not wrong to have a healthy amount of selfishness and stuff like that.

It's complicated. Changing the word makes it feel like you can escape the whole situation altogther, but it won't happen. It CAN help though. But I don't know how others feel about it. I saw pwNPD not wanting to change and just asking not to use the word.

On one hand it is bending towards hateful people, on the other it is separation from a negative word. A word that wasn't even supposed to be negative. Sometimes words change meaning, and how to know when to allow it and when to fight back? =(

[413x4ndr1t3-blog]

Fun fact about we is that we can fuse together at fucking will. It's fucking incredible that Steven Universe of all things helped me come to terms with disassociative fucking identity disorder.

I am sure you can guess how I picked my username! We can't all hold ourselves together like that! We need our own identities! Bodies! Identities! And bodies!

H h j h. Hbnn

That being said I feel it is more. I am a Vivisection, grotesque distraction, when entirely together like that. It's fucking Borderline and that Is Not fine.

Whenever we go to any therapists Together, even apart a lot, they say borderline. And there are just too many words to sift through as my entirety to pick the right ones.

"How do you know you have disassociative identity disorder?"

It's a long ass fucking story my dude, how do you know you DON'T? How do you know you're not autistic? I seem to know myself better than you if you cannot articulate it even without being an amalgamation of broken blood and mirrors as a god damn ghost!

I know the primary differences between being schizophrenic, bipolar, borderline, DID, schizoid, schizotypal, OCD, autistic, or attention deficit. I know how they could be comorbid, or not! I understand the core fucking concept here! And guess fucking what it is literally the hottest fucking discourse in your own field you obtuse ass!

You can see 10,000 signs all flashing at once, but can't give me two fucking minutes to describe one symptom? Die. I will die MAD about this. I feel more like a fucking (&) literally whatever that is than a person. I'm a god damn ampersand parenthases'd with a million commas and exclamation explanation fucking points and it's not because I'm on my fucking period! I do not even get those any more! With however many fucking souls it even IS, contained in this sack of meat. And being treated like an idiot for having emotions the "wrong" way is absolutely infuriating. Do not ask me a question when I am in the middle of answering an entire other one! Fucking hell!

Like this motherfucker. This motherfucker. Did not even know that gabapentin and Lyrica can do very different things even though they affect the same fucking area of the brain! Gabapentin is not used off label for anxiety and does not help lower back pain! Lyrica does both of those things! I already wrote him a far shorter and less inflammatory letter, but Gods Damned, it is actually hilarious that a fucking shut in knows more than the asshole hanging around handing out pills!

I have great respect for most people in the field but those who only specialise in medication are often very poorly trained on what the fuck constitutes one thing from another! And almost all of them believe that you are there because you don't know what you need, or that you are just a drug seeker if you do know! Fuck yes I'm here seeking drugs, are you fucking stupid? Like hot fucking hell. I just.

And why did they even remove schizoid personality disorder? Supposedly the people with it say they're fine? Wow hot damn that sure must be proof if you can say it with absolutely no emotion. When there's plenty of evidence of low life satisfaction even compared to other serious disorders, much less those who don't have 80,000 fucking problems.

I swear to God I am going to the next asshole up with as much written information as fucking possible and if they want official sources they can buy me a fucking printer! I could use it to bash my stupid skull in! (I will not but Still.)

Like these people over where I was raised? Don't know what schizoaffective disorder is? Are you fucking kidding me? I bet you don't understand the difference between either one and just decided to put down everything you thought was possible then shoved a dozen pills for all of them! I hate it.

Edit: & another thing! Having me take the same test 20 times that is not interpreted by the same person who gives it and is primarily concerned with moving blocks or naming numbers is absolutely not fucking proof I have a neurological disorder? That I literally don't meet the diagnostic criteria for? Like how the fuck is "I knew it was mean & that's why I did it" completely unbelievable for a fucking 12 year old? Half a fucking life ago and I'm still fucking toasted over it.

[wildersage]

i know how personality disorder is defined, I'm a former psychology major who has worked in a therapy institute, and i have personal experience with mental illness. i have plenty of problems with a lot of clinical psychology. I'll try to explain, i hope i can get my point across;

my problem is, among others, that the label of "personality disorder" is often used to label people who deviate from social norms in some way as "defective". i am fairly sure that there are very few people alive who DON'T have unhealthy patterns of thinking and behaviour that cause problems in their relationships etc. most people are inhibited by their "personality" in some way, and yet only few people are labelled as disordered - either because they are suffering and seeking treatment, or because they are labelled by others as dysfunctional, abnormal etc. even when they do not see a problem themselves and aren't hurting other people either.

there's also the problem that "personality" is a poorly defined, very malleable concept, and what we might call a person's personality is not only subject to change over time but different in different contexts. it is not an entity that a person has one of; it's a collection of behaviours, thinking patterns, traits, that are always changing. since a Personality is not one entity it can't really be disordered. "personality disorder" implies that there is something intrinsically and unchangeably Wrong with the person, but actually it's only some behaviours that are causing problems. not the whole of your person. these harmful behaviours are very often learned maladaptive mechanisms (eg resulting from negative childhood experiences) and not intrinsic/unchangeable. i think it's quite cruel and removed from reality to tell a person that their entire personality is defective. and then there's also the stigma and discrimination attached to a diagnosis like that.

besides, why differentiate between personality disorders and other disorders? the reason usually given is that personality disorder affects your behaviour across many areas, but so does the majority of other disorders. and it has to last for some time, but again, so do a lot of other disorders. i think it's important to understand that personality disorder categories and their definitions are entirely made up by people.

however i also get that someone can find solace in a label like that, especially when you've felt different all your life and it shows you that there are other people like you out there. i know i could definitely be diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder and reading about it does often feel comforting - this has been observed and described before, I'm not the only person who has felt like this, etc. but i think it is very very important to approach clinical psychology critically because there are a LOT of problems with the area and historically as well as currently it has often been a tool to cement societal prejudices by labelling "deviants" as defective.

i hope this doesn't come across as aggressive or argumentative; I'm not trying to criticize you specificially, I'm just trying to explain my opinion.

the entire concept of "personality disorders" sucks so bad. What the fuck does that mean. personality isn't even real