#i need to rewatch hunchback and hercules now

[theragamuffininitiative]

Favorite song from a non princess musical Disney movie ?

..............um. Probably almost definitely something from Hunchback. Anything and everything from Hunchback. "Out There" is just....so....good.

Also "Go the Distance" and pretty much everything else in Hercules. And obviously I can't forget original 1992 Newsies, probably "King of New York" because Denton got to sing a line. XD

[guysgirl-boymom]

Characters most likely to be seen

I have a HUGE list of Disney characters that will invariably make an appearance with in this grand epic.

That being sad, MORE THAN LIKELY, the main character(s) will be Belle and Adam/Beast because they will forever be my favorite.  But here’s where the twist comes in... 

...wait, should I be giving away my twists just yet?

Crimmeny... I’m really only in the development stage still so I feel the need to lay down some ground work, seeing as I don’t have all the wholes filled.

Anyway, here’s a tentative list of characters from such movies as:

Beauty and the Beast

Cinderella

Snow White and the 7 Dwarves

Sleeping Beauty

The Little Mermaid

Alice in Wonderland

Peter Pan

The Sword in the Stone 

(really need to watch that movie again)

Robin Hood 

(leaning towards keeping the characters as animals)

The Black Cauldron 

(another one I really need to rewatch)

Aladdin

Pocahontas 

(Hmm, even as I write this I’m not so sure anymore

 The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Hercules 

(again, seeming unlikely now... too easy and convenient dealing with powers when it comes to gods)

Mulan

Emperor’s New Groove 

(this could be a lot of freaking fun!!!)

Atlantis 

(yet another one I desperately need to rewatch)

Treasure Planet 

(shockingly, I need to rewatch this, but might be unlikely to be involved)

Enchanted

Princess and the Frog

Tangled

Brave

Frozen

Moana

[mearnsblog]

“Tarzan” (1999)

It's been a couple months since I last reviewed a Disney movie, but if you know me, I think you can excuse that given 1) I got married, and 2) baseball season came and (mostly) went. So, hey, I was distracted by non-Disney things for awhile. It happens!

Anyway. "Tarzan." It is, without a doubt, a Disney movie that was released in the '90s.

Okay, that stilted description makes my feelings on "Tarzan" sound harsher than they really are. I like it! It's perfectly fine. I like Phil Collins! He's fine. The songs still make me smile. I like the more modern jungle animation! It's fine. The vine surfing is still cool. I like Tarzan, Jane, and Kala, and the way they build their relationships with each other! They're fine -- more than fine, even.

There's just something about the whole package put together that keeps the movie's potential ceiling lower than most Disney flicks. To keep with the theme of the current month, "Tarzan" is the Milk Dud of the Disney canon. You won't regret eating it, but there are several superior options out there, especially coming off the heels of "Mulan" in the case of "Tarzan."

Tarzan himself is a sort of a mix between Hercules & Mowgli. He's a fish out of water too, but he's adapted nicely into the gorilla family with the approval of basically everyone except for the leader/distant father figure, Kerchak. However, when Tarzan learns about the existence of Jane, her father, and Clayton, he is rightfully upset with his mother, Kala, that he was never told about humans, even after growing beyond a young boy. Tarzan clearly loves Kala, and may very well have chosen living with the gorillas anyway, but it hurts to have the curtain thrown over you. We haven't seen much of that particular kind of existential angst in other Disney movies.

Tarzan only initially chooses leaving the jungle with Jane when Kerchak all but disowns him after saving Jane's crew from Kerchak's wrath. Ultimately, he does stay with the gorillas, with Jane and her father remaining as well. Tarzan (and Jane both have true agency in making their decisions, and they were not hastily chosen. The whole process for Tarzan is a better version of both Hercules & Mowgli's stories.

The villain parts of "Tarzan" are less compelling. It essentially has two villains -- Sabor the leopard for the first half, and the deceitful hunter, Clayton, for the second. Neither work super well, due in part to the brevity of screen time either is able to collect. Now, that's not a truly damning indictment of the movie since the general story of Tarzan's journey of human discovery does not necessarily need an overarching sole villain. However, Tarzan quickly dispatches Sabor when he's grown, and Clayton is simply not super interesting. His plot to seize the gorillas is boring and feels rushed, though the climactic scenes of his showdown with Tarzan are gripping. Brutal death* for a movie rated "G," too! Goodness.

*This movie does not shy away from dark shit. The opening sequence, which features the murder of Tarzan's parents and Kala & Kerchak's first son, is tough to watch. It's effective, but not something that I would super recommend for little kids.

As previously stated, I do like Phil Collins. The "Tarzan" soundtrack was one of the most-played CDs I had growing up. The problem here is that the way that the songs were integrated into the movie. Instead of the normal Disney method of having the characters do the songs, Collins just sings over different montage sequences. It works in its own way because they're all fun or compelling, but it just pales in comparison to, say, Belle declaring what she wants in life or Shang inspiring Mulan and his men. Instead of Tarzan going on about it, it's Phil Collins, which isn't the same. Montages are fine in Disney movies (see: "Circle of Life"), but best done in small doses rather than in every song.

At this point, I've made it 650 words without saying one thing about Rosie O'Donnell as Tarzan's friend, Terk. Good for me! But it must be discussed. To keep things simple, she does not work in this movie. Rosie is trying to do her Rosie thing as a Disney sidekick in the same way that Robin Williams did his Robin Williams thing for the Genie. The problem is that Robin's zany humor is timeless. Rosie's is not. Maybe it's still fine for other people, but Ali and I were both just constantly annoyed by Terk. She's not as funny as she thinks she is, and "Tarzan" would've been improved with at least 50% less of Terk.

So that's "Tarzan," the Milk Dud of Disney movies. Again: you'll like it, but I'd be surprised if you're desperate to rewatch it ASAP.

Best song: "Son of Man"

Updated ranking

1. “Beauty and the Beast” (review) 2. “The Lion King” (review) 3. “The Little Mermaid” (review) 4. “Cinderella” (review) 5. “Mulan” (review) 6. “Sleeping Beauty” (review) 7. “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” (review) 8. “Aladdin” (review) 9. “One Hundred and One Dalmatians” (review) 10. “The Jungle Book” (review) 11. “The Great Mouse Detective” (review) 12. “The Hunchback of Notre Dame” (review) 13. “Fantasia” (review) 14. “The Rescuers Down Under” (review) 15. “Tarzan” 16. “The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh” (review) 17. “Alice in Wonderland” (review) 18. “Lady and the Tramp” (review) 19. “Pinocchio” (review) 20. “Robin Hood” (review) 21. “Oliver & Company” (review) 22. “Hercules” (review) 23. “Pocahontas” (review) 24. “The Rescuers” (review) 25. “The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad” (review) 26. “Bambi” (review) 27. “The Aristocats” (review) 28. “Dumbo” (review) 29. “Peter Pan” (review) 30. “Fun and Fancy Free” (review) 31. “The Fox and the Hound” (review) 32. “The Sword in the Stone” (review) 33. “The Three Caballeros” (review) 34. “Make Mine Music” (review) 35. “The Black Cauldron” (review) 36. “Saludos Amigos” (review) 37. “Melody Time” (review)

[impossiblyspookydestiny]

Rewatching disney Hercules

Been a long ass time and have forgotten most of it.

So...imma live stream it

Okay.

Intro, got a nicely animated museum. Nice and classy. Nice narrator...wait.

Wait...what? 'Greatest of them was Hercules.'

Umm...the 'was he a God' argument is still not answered. Some say yes others say no- shit got heated in the classics world over this shit.

But, it's the Hercules movie, so moving on...

Ooh, sassy muses...

Wait...five? There's nine in Greek mythology...who didn't make the cut? Did the animators just not wanna draw more?

I have questions...

Also, I'm sensing a future where I get very mad at this film.

The music is good at least.

Hahahhaha they've made Hera a doting mother.

Damn, talk about artistic license also...HERA WASNT HIS FUCKING MOTHER. ALCMENE WAS!!! fuck Disney, you couldn't get even that much right??

That's not where Pegasus came from...like...no. Just no.

I guess being born from your mothers dead body after Perseus cuts off her head is a bit much for a kids movie though...but this cloud crap? Really?

The Greek gods all look like skittles...Aphrodite head is shaped like a heart...dunno if its amusing or annoying.

Here comes disaster family member. ...Hades

'I can't party, I gotta work.' Why is this me when my unemployed family members bitch about me skipping events to earn money? Like...that is such a reasonable reason, also...he showed up despite having a shitty job that you all stuck him with.

How is Hades the bad guy here?

Underworld looks cool as fuck.

Oh God...the cartoon minions are gonna be as annoying as the gargoyles from hunchback.. and I'm gonna hate it.

Why call one Panic...WHY NOT JUST USE THE ACTUAL GOD OF PANIC...ITS GREEK MYTHOLOGY, THERES ONE ALREADY.

Grace's are annoying...but there's 3 with only 1 eye...that's more accuracy that I've been shown to expect.

Why are the Graces consulting?...they are meant to be impartial and act accordingly, where they falling over Hades over one with line of flattery? Gahh

Prophesy bullshit...well, at least it's in keeping with actual Greek mythology.

Did he....did he just have anti-God making potion on tap? Why? He wasnt planning to kill the baby till a minute ago...why did he have it?

Why give Hera's role of 'kill kid shenanigans' to Hades? Like...why?

Also...why is there apparently no security on Olympus? With how often shit goes down, you guys ain't discovered locks?

Reasonable reaction to newborn killing snakes...shock and fear.

Ahh...idiot plot. If the idiot minions hadn't been tasked with this shit, Hercules would be dead etch

Oof...sung narration is kinda painful.

I like the vase painting storytelling though.

Feotus Herc has chaotic twink energy

Rome wasnt built in a day...but Herc destroyed it in one.

Who pays for damages?

...angry villagers have a point...Herc is dangerous to be around normal mortals and it's a miracle no one was hurt.

He destroyed their town...I mean...point made.

Twinkules sings well.

Flee in terror from talking statue...logic. glorious reasoning.

You have God unmaking potion...but no god making potion...I call contrived bs for plot.

Also...I'm hoping this leads into 12 trials and I'll be annoyed if it doesn't cause it's the perfect follow up for earning God status.

Pegasus has the brain of a bird...we talking falcon or owl? Cause theres a big intellect gap between them.

Why not wings of bird and brain of octopus?...those things are hella fucking smart.

How did Hercules know where to find the trainer? Not like anyone gave him a map or directions.

Middle aged dude assaulting some nymphs...was that absolutely necessary?

Bitch talking about dreams...its been a few hours, you've had this dream for like an hour...chill!

Philgoat is surprisingly graceful.

Why is Philgoat speaking French?

I want a printed list of these Rules.

How is he somehow more gay when he is a hunk?

Damn...I'm in love with Megara already.

Use your head...does not mean headbutt. How is he still alive with minus 5 brain cells?

I too would be reduced to a babbling mess if Meg gave me that look.

Damn...she calling all men out!! Go her

And the idiot plot rises at last.

I wanna buy a sundial...why isnt there a cult following for sundial dude?

Philgoat reminds me of jackjack in demon form lol

Kids in the gorge...What is it with kids and gorges? Where are the parents?

Animation here seems off.

Dragon almost seems 3D in a 2D movie...kinda jarring. Oerall fight scene was kinda cool.

Sassy singing muses...always appreciated.

Hades and Yzma would get on well.

Megs ex is a fucking bastard.

Herc just claimed to have killed the minotaur, but...Theseus killed the minotaur, and I would know that myth...I did my dissertation on it ffs.

Ffs Disney...get just one damn thing right.

Artist vase man is a fucking mood.

Damn...Herc really gon need a girl to climb him like a tree to take a hint.

The Venus Di Milo origin story is brilliant.

Goofy smile is goofy and cute as heck.

Why ain't my friends ever busted into song when I'm an idiot about romance? I have been cheated by their lack of creativity in calling me a dumbasd.

Damn...'he's a guy,' Hades knows. Hades gets it.

They kidnapped the horse with ...horse lady. Okay...I can tolerate it.

Philgoat gives up easy.

Herc is human...just sedate him and kill him. How hard is that? He has to sleep right...sneak in and slit his throat...like...how hard is that?!?!?!?

....I will update eventually with the rest...but right now...I just cant.