#i much rather turn my brain off and runt through a jail than a palace

[sillyfudgemonkeys]

i thought you hated the gameplay in P5, or at least the palaces, or idk, i have a hard time remembering what you don't hate about p5 lol

Really it's a "spin the wheel on what part of the gameplay (or just something from P5) you mean and I'll have a different thought on it, if not just one thought then at least complex emotions"

By liking gameplay I meant the turn based part, and that specific kind evolved from P3. Basically I like Hashino style of turn based.

THAT BEING SAID, I found P5 to be too flashy and OP at times with it's new/unique special moves. But those can be reworked (iirc P3R is some of these in it's own way....but I guess we'll see 8U)

As for exploration, yes I don't like the Palaces. They're fine on one playthrough (kinda). But a lot of them narratively are blah (only Kamo and Maruki do a decent job, Mada is.....while not well written is the closest that comes to any narrative beats), or don't understand a good reference (I'm looking at you Futaba dungeon! can't be a good P4 dungeon if you don't actually understand how a good P4 dungeon works....the irony is that if it DID follow the P4 dungeon formula then the beats that were hit in the dungeon would've been actual revelations rather than....iirc stuff we already knew abt before even going into the dungeon TT0TT)

Gameplay/structure of the Palace wise, it doesn't offer the best exploration nor is it NG+ friendly. Something that could easily go hand in hand: shorter ways have MUCH stronger enemies but long way has enemies around your (assumed if not NG+) level.

Considering you can't run past enemies well in this (lest you get booted from the Palace) or you have to grind for money/items to craft (you can buy a lot of these items for smaller quantities each day/week....post arc 1 or 2 iirc) which means you're still REQUIRED to fight in some capacity AND the items don't carry over. TT0TT At least P3/4 you can just run around the enemies aklfjdskaf (P4 it's like 7-10 floors and 2 are fixed, and then you can again.....run around~! P3 you can use split up)

Anyway mini Palace rant over. TT0TT Woke up with a bone to pick with them I guess.

As for how this involves Refan.....yeah if the dungeons are like Palaces it could be an issue. But at least it seems one big headache about Palaces will probs not be in Refan if they do exist....and that's "stealth" (lol you call that stealth?) Anyway no alarm gauge will make things sooooo much easier. TT0TT