#i mean look at OP saying shit clearly debunkable with a few clicks

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the lies around pregnancy - that it's inherently safe, that it doesn't do you permanent damage, that it's only extremely rare for people to die of pregnancy complications, etc like

all of these are lies constructed so that more people will get pregnant w/o knowing all that

OP, none of that are "lies", the scarcity of death in childbirth is an objective observable reality.

You people will literally making shit up without bothering pulling out actual DATA because your perspective relies on ideology rather than reality.

Here's the REALITY check:

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Do the math, and you'll realize in the listed country with the highest childbirth (Colombia) has a whooping...... 0.05% death in childbirth rate 💀💀💀

which means every country with a decent/existing healthcare system has below 0.05% death in childbirth rate. So YES, IN REALITY death in childbirth IS a scarcity.

Erasing death in childbirth is a totally achievable objective with a proper healthcare system ; the problem is not pregnancy, but rather access to HEALTHCARE.

You are just sooo desperate to fearmongering & vilify pregnancy you are literally making shit up to make your point.

and btw,

miscarriages and abortion are NOT the same. As someone who's witnessed her sister mourn the death of her unborn child I will never accept people lumping her struggle with women ACTIVELY KILLING their child. Every single person acting like they were the same is absolutely despicable.

Yes pregnancy takes a toll on the body and definitely needs a proper care all throughout the gestation system; but talking about "violence" and "brutality" of pregnancy while raving about....abortion, is absolutely hysterical.

I will never understand the cognitive dissonance of arguing that pregnancy -that the adult female body was literally WIRED to process- is somehow more dangerous than abortion, which is the surgically or chemically induced interruption of a symbiotic biological process (no "parasite" or "cancer"...). Abortion has well documented negative impacts on the women health and fertility that the so called defenders of female health are willfully ignoring. They are not interested by those alternatives and act like they don't exist or aren't valid because they do no want to see solution not involving a fetus death.

Never forget they are the same people seething at the possibility of science allowing gestatating fetus outside their mother womb if they don't want to deal with carrying a baby. Removing someone's right to life is their first objective.

the thing is like. i get that it's scary and makes people who do desire to get pregnant uncomfortable when we talk about the brutality and violence of pregnancy and the damage that pregnancy can do to your body

but you deserve to give informed consent to that process.

the lies around pregnancy - that it's inherently safe, that it doesn't do you permanent damage, that it's only extremely rare for people to die of pregnancy complications, etc like

all of these are lies constructed so that more people will get pregnant w/o knowing all that

there needs to be more talk about the impact of miscarriages and how common they are, how different abortion processes are and how accessible they are

but also like. talking about how pregnancy fucks your body up should not be taboo

this is a process that permanently changes most people's bodies, and that's even if the pregnancy doesn't do them like. severe illness or injury

and i just think everybody should have a right to KNOW that

bc to live in a society that intentionally obscures and hides facts about a completely optional and dangerous process does so for a reason, and that reason is based in a very sinister ideology that does not value bodily autonomy or informed consent