#i mean like genuinely theres no reason they shouldn't

[puhpandas]

do u guys think we'll ever get Gregory and vanessa remodels

[marsupials-of-mars]

Was thinking about @ckret2 's bill when i wrote this, but it applies to bill more generally. I think the main thing people pick up on, maybe subconsciously, about their bill that makes him feel so accurate is that he feels.

A lot of people (and most people are guilty of this including me whether they mean to or not) tend to write him as a tragic immortal? In the sense that he's been beaten down by time and learned never to care about people, and has lost the ability to care.

And the first part of that is true!

He HAS learned never to care about people! In the tbob love page, he says its stupid to tie yourself to a mortal in a way where your happiness depends on them. He's LEARNED this. But he has NOT lost the ability to care. And he DOES care despite knowing he shouldn't.

He interacts with people genuinely, he legitimately enjoys the company of "lesser" mortal species, he has fun, he thinks about people when they're gone, he's taken lovers, he speaks in phrases hes picked up from past earth decades because he likes how they sound (ya dig?).

And some people are frustrated when he's written suave and unfeeling for this reason, because he is a goofball. But the thing is, he DOES act, in a way, suave and unfeeling when it comes to situations like Ford and Dipper. He plays up his "immortal deity" persona, constantly reminding them of all the knowledge he knows, PROVING his value to them.

But he gets mad! He falls in love! He jokes around because its fun! He gets stupid and reckless when he's upset! He burns bridges when he doesnt get his way! These are all insANELY short-sighted things for a trillion-year-old to care about!

This is why he can relate to people, and why he acts like a kid sometimes. I firmly believe that he stopped aging the day he destroyed his dimension (which is basically canon i think) not only physically but mentally. He legitimately cannot mature, cannot gain wisdom no matter how much he tries.

He has a lot of INTELLIGENCE and KNOWLEGE, but its like giving a child the library of alexandria and infinite time to explore. Sure theyll probably learn some things out of boredom or curiosity, but theres no curriculum. They COULD read it all, but why would they? That's boring and dumb and they want to climb the shelves and make book forts instead.

Now, more specifically about ckret2's Goldie:

He describes himself as a consumate extrovert. He hangs out with mabel and watches tv and goes to the Rainbow club. And while he does these things, he isnt thinking "this is so below me, why should i care about any of this?" He's just trying to have fun, and is knowingly fulfilling his social needs. He believes he and ford WERE friends.

And the most important part of this that im always thinking about is Bill claiming that being friends, enjoying peoples company, loving, playing, and all that is not mutually exclusive with being an all powerful god of destruction to be worshipped by all.

Which makes sense! Because he is INTELLIGENT and he knows that he's more powerful than these people, and he SHOULD be a being that demands their worship, and he needs to find something that lasts, and makes sense in the wake of INFINITY. But he also has the mind of a mortal, and he thinks the same way he always has. And with both of these insights, the ONLY thing that MAKES SENSE is to have his cake and eat it too. Focus on the big picture while also enjoying the present, SIMULTANEOUSLY.

Manipulating ford to his own end that leads him closer to his forever plan, while also bringing him to karaoke and falling in love. Securing his rule and reputation over the nightmare realm, being feared throughout the multiverse, having his fingers in as many pies as possible-- while partying with his henchmaniacs, drinking out of solo cups and flashing the cops.

Its the only thing that stops him from going crazy. If you have a mortal mind thats built to love and lose and feel and party and wisecrack, and you relinguish it to the horrifying prospect of timelessness, if you're always looking at the existential...you are not going to last a trillion years.

[fuutaprotectionsquad]

Am I the only one who doesn't think Shidou's gonna snap at Amane? Like ive seen so many people taking his "it's my job as an adult to teach you that throwing a temper tantrum isn’t going to make everything go your way" line as indication that he's going to hurt her in some way and like?? What, is he not allowed to be annoyed that she's literally threatening him? That doesn't mean he's gonna beat her up. He literally follows this by saying "If it’s a test of endurance you want, I’m happy to oblige." Aka "I'll continue as I have been." I don't think he's going to do anything to her. In fact, it'd be more in character if he let her kill him. Which, with the way he's making sure theres someone else to handle Mahiru + the kids if he's not there (Yuno / Kazui), it's totally possible he's preparing to die or be gravely injured by her.

I've seen a few people dismiss Amane's threats towards him because "if he can't defend himself against a child, thats on him" and I- Firstly, the victim blaming mentality on that one is baffling. Secondly, has Milgram taught you nothing about underestimating children?? And finally, Shidou still sees Amane as a kid, he's not gonna fight back. Do you know how hard a fight is when you're trying not to hurt the other person, who has a weapon and also will not hold back like you are? I'd imagine it's pretty difficult.

The Shidou hate has gotten so unreal its almost funny. Like the people saying he doesn't actually care about / value the opinions of children. As though he doesn't go out of his way to ask Muu how Haruka (a child) is doing because he's worried about him. As though he doesn't have two timeline conversations about how he believes children are hope for the future. As though he doesn't admit to being upset that Amane doesn't like him, and then proceed to get sentimental on her birthday. Not to mention that he says he specifically wants a child like Es to tell him he's guilty, instead of the law.

And people saying he doesn't care about Mahiru / is being forced to help her. Meanwhile he's literally risking his life to do so, and has no reason to listen to anyone telling him to if he didn't genuinely want to. Someone said something about his smoke break with Kazui showing that he didn't value Mahiru's health because he was... taking a break?? And that if she was in such dire health that he couldn't handle much else in the prison, he shouldn't be taking that break. Even though we've seen that Mahiru doesn't need to be monitored 24/7, and has Yuno to help even if she did. Because news flash, people need to take breaks in order to function? That's the point of the timeline, Kazui telling him to rest and not overwork himself.

I just. take psychic damage every time someone grabs a random Shidou line/action and twists it to make him seems like a selfish asshole. Like by all means, you can hate Shidou, I don't particularly care for him myself. But at least hate him for reasons that are actually canon to his character.

Its likely something will happen with Shidou in T3 that makes him seem more guilty. Thats just how Milgram is, he seems really innocent now so they'll sprinkle in a lil guilty to keep it balanced. But Milgram also doesn't switch up characters out of the blue, every new reveal is led up to. I'll be genuinely surprised and probably kinda annoyed if he ends up hurting Amane or Mahiru purposefully.

[rainybraindays]

Hi! Rainy here on her soapbox again!! Heres some things I've seen said about Eloise today

"Eloise be staying a terrible friend"

"Shes finally showng her true colors"

"This is the ultimate betrayal I don't care how mad she is I can't believe she'd do this to Penelope."

"Eloise was always a brat/bitch she deserves whatever happens to her for being friends with Cressida."

"If she was a true friend she wouldn't do this."

And lots more!

My thoughts on this? You all need to calm the fuck down oh my god.

Listen, I love Penelope, and I'm not exactly thrilled to see Eloise attaching herself to Cressida, but also you have to imagine being in her shoes.

You're 19 forced into a world and position you don't like, your reputation has been dragged through the mud, most of your acquaintances are no longer spaking to you, the first person you've had a crush on has basically said to never come around again, and you found out your best friend has been lying to you for years and using her anonymity to mock your family.

She gets to be hurt and upset. Penelope did betray her, and she may have been trying to do it to save her, but that doesn’t change that she did an it certainly doesn't change how she reacted when Eloise found her out.

We know from the live Cressida is the only person who was nice to her. Was it likely for a self serving reason? Does it likely have more to do with Eloises name than who she is as a person?

Maybe, but also, we really don't know Cressida beyond a surface level. I don’t know how to tell you his but characters can have more depth to them.

And even if she is, Eloise could also be in this friendship for self serving reasons as well.

Violet says it in Queen Charlotte, Eloise is lonely, and angry, and likely looking for a way to hurt Pen like shes been hurt. Cressida is excellent at helping her be less lonely and to also get back at someone who hurt her. In Eloises mind Cressida may be bad, but at least shes not pretending she isn't.

These girls are not done cooking, their brains are not fully developed, they are going to make impulsive, mean spirited decisions.

They shouldn't be crucified for them.

Marina lashes out at Pen for meddling, it's taken as evidence that shes actually this evil bitch. Eloise lashes out and makes friends with "the enemy?" She was never a true friend, and never actually cared about Penelope.

I love Penelope, I find her to be an interesting character with a lot of facets that can be played with, yet some how how this fandom keeps deciding she needs to always be in the victim role. Something she wouldn't agree with, seeing as sh seemingly hold some guilt about Marina, and immediately tried to run after Eloise. The things she does aren't full altruistic, to an extent they usually play in her favor. She knows shes in the wrong, why can't we as the audience accept that?

When Pen and El reunite, it shouldn't involve some huge redemption arc from Eloise for daring to befriend someone Penelope hates.

It should be genuine apologies, on both sides, because they've both said and done things to hurt each other.

Their friendship isn't going to be the same and I think thats okay honestly. They've both been self-centered in their friendship, niether really listened to each other, theres been secrets and fights that do change alter relationship. They have to rebuild, reassess and go from there.

[joosiewiththeboof]

Louie Szczur lore dump because 🐀

Jeffy unknowingly emotionally manipulated louie into being overly empathetic. Jeffy makes plenty of mistakes, he knows they are mistakes but doesnt want to seem like an incompetent father or person. So he tells His son that his mistakes are justified because he was tired/late/busy (he does thi every time) Louie growing up with a shitty dad constantly making excuses about why all his bad choices are justified made louie learn to feel that all bad choices must have some kind of underlying cause and arent just from carelessness. Louie forgives people for every mistake and thinks that hating people is bad and its an emotion that shouldnt be felt. He shouldn't judge people, and nobody is evil. theres always a justified reason for someones actions.

Jeffy is impulsive and a pretty shitty dad. where does he work idk idk where he works he just leaves louie home with his older sister, Connie, who is a loving sister but she's pretty foolish and prone to getting into trouble, louie forgives her for that, thats what he always does. Connie brings louie everywhere because her father demands that she look after louie and she a daddys girl. And also because, she genuinely really likes her little brother.

she got the other end of the spectrum where her fathers ignorance made her believe that doing bad things is okay. Louie feels responsible for Connie even though shes supposed to be looking after him. So, toxic relationship, but louie tells himself to be grateful for relationships no matter how toxic they are. which is not mindful or demure

In all of connies relationships with her friends and in ever argument they get into louie forces himself to be a mediator. He's a pretty good mediator but having a teenagers relationship drama lean on your little brother isnt healthy for the little guy, i mean YOU"RE supposed to be looking after HIM connie! Connie likes her little brother but she thinks he needs to get out of his own skin and live a little! because he's always so selfless to the extent where its really unhealthy for him. She notices this and She tries to get louie to realize its okay be rough. but shes not that good at setting the point straight. Lou doesnt reallly pickup on it, maybe eventually he'd learn to stand up for himsef and his emotions if if wasnt for a certain someone!!!

one of connies' friends (who could it be??) is a girl with a lemonade "empire" thats been going on for four whole years now. (you know her you love her)

Vicky knows louie as a naive little boy who is easily roped up into trouble, and can be VERY easily manipulated. She barely needs to ask him if he'd help her with her lemonade making before he's just like Okay!! I'd love to help!! IT sounds fun!! and then she leads the poor unsuspecting boy to his doom.

[redactedgender]

— ELLIOTT BA SPOILERS —

this is me liveblogging the entire ba. theres lots of screaming. youve been warned.

18+ only obviously

FIRST OF ALL. called this. i KNEW this fucking audio was coming. literally called it. second of all, this is my first time liveblogging so idk if thisll be good or not ahgjsdfkl

OOO DREAMSCAPE NOISESS. i love how twinkly they are

him teasing themmm :(( i love themb

"we dreamwalkers call it 'the ingress'" love how erik drops dreamwalker lore in this ba thats so funny

elliott is so giggly and sweet sounding :((

"yknow, i can judge you on the fact that you have a dream about shopping at a grocery store... [laughs] no, no i will never let you live that down" STOPPP thats so cute him referencing his first audio with them awwweeee

eriks voice acting has gotten so good. like the stutters and imperfections feel like genuine instead of scripted, like hes actually elliott actually floundering for words a little. its sogood

(are you okay?) "no no, i'm- i'm okay" STOPP literally what did i say before. it sounds so genuine and like real

"y'know how some days you just feel kinda... off?" mood king. but also. is this bc of the memory modification brachium did?

"... i dunno. it's just- it's been kind of a weird day ... i mean, i don't even know what i'm talking about ... like you know when you have a bad dream, and even though you know its a dream ... and it shouldn't have any impact on you, but the rest of the day you feel off" HEY NOW. HEY NOW.

"i mean i'm not a huge people person most of the time, maybe its that, maybe hanging out with aaron and his partner drained my battery a little" honestly if i didnt know what the deal was id be like yeah same

"i know we didnt have any dreamscaping planned tonight but i... i didn't really wanna spend the night alone in my head if thats okay. it- it almost feels like... like i miss you?? or like i had been missing you?" BRACHIUM WHEN I CATCH YOU BRACHIUM. SHUT UPPP OH MY GOD :(( thats actually so fucking sad and sweet. like his body and his brain remembers missing sunshine so fiercely but the memories arent there so he just feels off-kilter and like he misses them for some reason WHAT THE SHIT :((

"you havent had a work trip for a while, we spent all night together. you're literally laying next to me in bed in the waking world, like, you're right there! like i could wake up and poke you right now" he is so goofy and silly but not in a guy way and i really appreciate that

"[im a little tired] and maybe a little sappy. i guess i just hadnt gotten my fill of you today" HEHEHEHE...

THEYRE KISSINGGGGGG

"i just wanna be with you rn, and i dont know why ... no, no thats not what i meant!" I LOVE HOW SUNSHINE RIBS ON HIM :(( like they really are just besties who fell in love

i love the way elliott kisses sunshine. if that makes any sense dhjgfshd

"i love being with you [kiss] in dreams, in reality, anywhere. if its you, im happy." when is it my turn god.

"im just the boy next door... the boy next door with a brain that can handle managing the near infinite minutia of an entire dreamscape, flawlessly under pressure, at a labyrinth black certified level. yknow, simple stuff like that" WOW YOUR HONOR IM IN LOVE WITH HIM

"i mean it really is simple when it comes to you. you're there? im happy. you're not? im not. and right now i could use some happy" theyre the cutest couple god im ill abt them

"the dreamhouse- pardon the pun" IM SO EMOTIONAL OVER THAT WAIT :(( HE CALLS THE HOUSE HE MADE FOR HIM AND SUNSHINE THE DREAMHOUSE

"ba-dum-bum!" im making out with him rn

"yeah, well, if you didn't like a dork, you wouldn't have stuck around. cuz i am one, through and through. and you knew that; you've known that as long as you've known me" and when i throw myself into the sea then what. then what

"starting us in the bedroom is a perfectly logical start to the dream" its also a good starting point for me to rail you-

GOD THE WAY ERIK DOES MAKING OUT... like the softer kisses to start, how they slowly start getting deeper as they get more into the kiss..... incredible

THE WAY HE MAKES SURE SUNSHINE ISNT FORCING THEMSELF TO FUCK CUZ HE PUT THEM IN THE BEDROOM :((

i just realized we're gonna get updated elliott Noises. ogh. im so excited

sunshine really does love taking care of him :((

WAIT ARE THEY BLOWING HIM??? THIS IS THE LASKO BA ALL OVER AGAIN. ERIK GIVE US LIKE. SOMETHING TO KNOW WHEN THE LISTENER IS GOING DOWN ON THE SPEAKER DHFJGAFHGS

god his NOISES. hes so vocal n i love it

I LOVE WHEN THE SPEAKERS CALL THE LISTENERS BABY AS A SECOND PET NAME ITS SO CUTE. also. elliott just has the cutest noises wowow

"can i hold your head?" THATS HOW YOU DO IT FOLKS. also babygirl you can pull my hair any day of the week

I LOVE HOW BREATHY HE IS??? also some of his noises are deeper than i wouldve expected from him but i love it so much :flushed:

HE WAS STANDING THAT WHOLE TIME??? GODDAMN SUNSHINE

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHAT WAS THAT NOISE HELLO???? THE STUTTERING RASPY MOAN????? WHAT THE FUCK????? THAT WAS THE HOTTEST NOISE EVER WHAT THE SHIT

i just KNOW hes holding sunshine by the head not to control the pace but to steady himself and to have something to hold onto while they suck his dick like a pro

WE LOVE A MAN WHO KISSES THEIR PARTNER AFTER ORAL SEX

"oh god the things you do" SIR IM ON THE FLOOR RN WHAT WAS THAT FUCKING VOICE???????

"is it too bright?" mans has the sun reacting to his emotions thats so cool and also hot

"im looking at you... you look so incredible with the horizon behind you" im going to propose if you keep talking to me like that

"i got the idea from that trip we took up to the lake" ERIK GIVE US SOME FLASHBACKS TO THEIR CAMPING TRIPS PLEASE i would love one where theyre not dating yet but theyre obviously dancing around it god thatd be so good

"all these oranges and reds and purples... eyes shining in the waning light" hes so romantic

"hey... i have an idea" oh?

"howd you like to see that sunset up close?" ARE WE GONNA FUCK IN THE SKY??

"do you trust me?" YES YES YES

THE WAY HE IMMEDIATELY GRABS ONTO SUNSHINE TO REASSURE THEM AND SAYS THAT HES GOT THEM :((

ARE THEY IN A CLOUD???? WHAT THE FUCK???

"you deserve it... everything beautiful and wonderful, you deserve it." god hes so good at making sunshine believe they have worth in this life :((

i love how you can tell when erik is kissing someones lips vs when hes kissing their skin. the noises are so subtle yet distinct and its so good at helping you realize where things are happening. but also... sunshine where are your clothes sjdfhkg

"d'you-do you like it?" HIS LITTLE HESITATION LIKE HES WORRIED SUNSHINE DOESNT LIKE THE DREAM STOPPP :(( hes so fucking cute i cant stand it

"lay back... let the clouds hold you" ok real talk i have a bad phobia of heights (specifically the edge of things) but i would brave my phobia if it meant a hot dreamwalker was going to fuck me in the clouds

"sunset skin... my sunshine" I AM ON THE FLOOR AGAIN THIS IS THE MOST ROMANTIC THING :(( i love when he says "my sunshine" CUZ THEY ARE HIS SUNSHINE IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE!!!!!!

"can i?" YOU FUCKING BETTER GO DOWN ON ME DUDE

HIS FUCKING GIGGLES?? "okay... then spread 'em a little bit" HIS VOICE IS SO SOFT AND TEASING ALMOST WOWOWOW

erik knows how to make gender neutral oral sex work very well. im genuinely impressed

"so good..." sorry but if someone said that after going down on me i would marry them on the spot

"can i?" YOU BETTER FUCK SUNSHINE RN IM GOING CRAZY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR LIKE FOUR FUCKIN YEARS

GOD HIS NOISES?????????? THEYRE SO LIKE. ROUGH. N ALMOST FERAL. AND SO APPRECIATIVE????

"just a sec... god it feels so good... just to be inside- all the way... together" WOOOOOOOW WOW WOW WOW IM SO LONELY HOLY SHIT HJGSDAHJ

"yeah i just wanna feel it for a sec... all of it... all of you" hes so lustdrunk rn its craaaaaazy woooooow. i mean considering this is the first time theyve fucked in days after the events of the balance (not that they remember it) im sure it would feel overwhelming

"lemme see your neck" god n the way he marks them up...... plus its a callback!! we love a callback!! technically its a callback to two diff things, his first ba and his "dreamwalker bf helps you in your dreams" when theyre on the beach!

"oh yeah.... moan for me" HIS VOICE. HJDFGKFGHKDJ!!!!!!!! ./////. "yeah? its just us, and the sky; let it all out." him encouraging them to be loud?????? what the fuck????????

pleasuredrunk elliott is something i knew i needed but didnt know i needed this badly holy shit

"you look so incredible.... no, no, not just the sunset. the sunset's just casting a light on whats already there" WHOAAAAAAA. THATS SO???? ROMANTIC?????? HOLY SHIT???????

"all the imperfections are what make you perfect. make you real... warm, and real, and here... with me" WOW THATS. YEAH. OW. THAT HURTS A LITTLE

I LOVE WHEN HE CALLS THEM MY SUNSHINE HEHEHEHE

god his NOISESSSSS i cant get over them. he sounds so obsessed with sunshine its crazy.

"no- no let me, let me... i wanna be the one to make you come" AAAAAAAH!!!!!!!

i love when the speakers jerk off/touch the listener to help get them close. like its so intimate and hot.

n the noises of him touching them,,,

"yeah, yeah, get loud," SIR??? SIR???????

"feeling me while im..... in you..." the way his voice like dissolves into pleasure is craaaaazy. erik what are you fucking to make those noises??

"throw your head back... let the clouds hold you while i fill you up-" WHOAAAA WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JGHDFKFGDHJKSDGKFHJDKGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"youre tightening down...... now?... yesss, yes sunshine, come for me, come-" OH MY FUCKING GOD??????????????

HIS NOISES????????? FUCK ME????????????

AND THE WAY IT SOUNDS LIKE HES PANTING INTO THEIR NECK/CLOSE TO THEIR SKIN,,,,,, GOD. GODDDDDDD.

AND THEN HE BRINGS THEM BACK TO THE BED. HIS FUCKING SHUSHING AND THE "no its okay, i got you" GODDDD

their aftercare kissing n cuddling. wow :((

"i love you so much, baby... you make me feel so good... you feel so... right. its just easy with you. its real with you, even here, where none of it is.. real. its us. and that makes it- real ... in my arms.. its real." THATS SO FUCKING SWEET WHAT THE FUCK

"i never wanna have to miss you again" SHUT THE FUCK UP ERIK IM GONNA FUCKIGN CRY

"we're forever" THEY ARE THEYRE SO FOREVER LIKE THEYRE GONNA GET MARRIED AND BUILD THAT DREAM HOUSE AND GROW OLD TOGETHER PLEASE ERIK :(((((((

"i love you sunshine" mirroring the end of his first ba I WILL CRY

and the really soft kisses as the audio fades out :((

WOW that was. wow. i mean. what else can i say dude????? that was so fucking good. best ba we've had in easily awhile. holy fuck dude

[herboretum]

since i’m full of hatred and negativity i will be answering this

(to emphasize Like these are just nuances and inconsistencies i’ve found with myself and the fandom Like genuinely idrgaf i could care less about any of the points i will make in retrospect)

the anthropomorphization of unpleasant from this fandom has genuinely WRECKED its character and made it. not that unique compared to the other npcs. like i dont know it being this like fucking gooner-type character is so awful? and i really hate it? if anything that trope given to unpleasant should have stayed with scag and ended with her, since she’s a genuine npc with more writing and thoughts attached

i saw people bring up this point again and im glad but HELLO!!!!! LETS STOP JUST ASSOCIATING LAMPERT AS WALLTER AND MARK'S SON? EVEN WHEN IT HAS BEEN DISCREDITED /MULTIPLE/ TIMES? like DAMN this fandom only attributes characteristics if it is attached to literally anyone else besides that person. its horrible. people NEED to learn to find the balance between having fun with that headcanon while also acknowledging lampert as his own separate person that is (to be quite frank) not even associated with them that much in canon

(+ people saying that the headcanon of lampert being wallmark's son is canon and fucking REPLYING saying to people who ship wallter & lampert or mark & lampert that they shouldn't. you are fucking embarrassing)

more of a fandom thing but yall ship too much lmfaoo. like guys i promise, you can interpret some of these relationships as genuine friendships i promise you'll live. can we stop with the rhetoric that just because two characters have good dynamics with each other that means that theyre in love (heavily side-eyeing protoscag and lampfected and milby dare i say)

the regretevator fandom is EXACTLY like the phighting fandom with how shipping is handled. i mean this in not a positive way

people gotta stop relying on the wiki for information man. so much lore from yeucc's tumblr has been retconned and at this point, when there's now WRITERS for the game that are actually keeping tabs, all if not the good majority of what is said on the wiki should be taken with a grain of salt. nowadays the lore is unpredictable, and only a select few (by few i mean like. 4 out of the 17 npcs) has had their lore expanded on significantly

general facts i think is fine so long as theres an annotation backing it but my point still stands . moreso with lore generally

also saw this point being brought up in the qrts but the demonization and infantilization of certain characterss (cough spud pilby pest and poob) is like. wild. i dunno i can't say much since i'm very fortunate enough to not have seen that much but my god is it prevalent from what people are saying

with pest especially since he has npd and aspd i do think that. people generally associating him as evil has NOT been the greatest thing, especially since it reduces him to a stigma of people with personality disorders which is horrific and terrifying. idk what goes on in the background but i feel like the fandom + yeucc & the people working on regretevator should have done more research on the disorders and consulted people who do have these issues better instead of using those labels haphazardly

another thing i will and always will be vocal (dog on) about the axosun team is them keeping gnarpy. like there was no reason to keep xem in other than for revenue gain let's be honest and True to ourselves. the philosophy "ohh but you can separate the art from the artist!!!!" i feel does not really apply to this scenario cause xe got a whole ass revamp despite the obvious fact that it STILL is gnarpy, a character created by a bad person regardless of the ownership change and discredited history. its the underlying thought that they were essentially built off a bad origin if this makes any sense. idk i think it wouldve been better for everyone if xe were just removed ENTIRELY from the game but. you do you i guess

lastly in this essay: i think more people should Be Kinder to each other in this fandom <3 peace and love

[oddinary4bts]

Hello! I hope you're doing well:)

I've read some comments and this isn't an ask but they're being too harsh on jk for no reason lol

He didn't do anything wrong. He is NOT required to stay loyal when they were never even together. And I'm sorry no hate to anyone really but some of these people are actually either children or they're just kinda immature cause no way they're taking this as cheating 😭

Oc and jk are not and never were together officially. I understand they love each other but they choose to not stay together so regardless of their feelings they willingly both choose to not fight for each other and leave things as it was. It was a good and very OKAY thing for jk to do. Sleeping with other people when you're stressed is such a common thing to do as an adult, in fact I'm glad jk isn't completely stuck and I hope he knows he isn't in the wrong.

I also saw people saying that "just because its not wrong, it doesn't mean it's right". I don't think that fits in this situation. Cause his actions were not in any way bad. He's obviously guilty cause oc saw and knows that he slept with their mutual friend. He loves oc and it's not an ideal situation that he would've wanted to be in so it's understandable it pained him and it's 100% normal to feel guilty and I'd be surprised if he wouldn't be. But he did not do an unforgivable mistake like people are making it seem to be. It was very much okay for a grown man to try and move on from a situation in a healthy way rather than cry over oc for the rest of his life.

And to be fair oc came outta nowhere bru 😭 girl really just showed up after months and expected their situation to be completely fine after breaking things off, not trusting him like he asked and even after reading his letter, she did not contact him. like no??? This is both of their fault that they ended up there but jk is being blamed for the whole thing as if poor guy isn't on the verge of jumping off a building already LMAO and I hope oc won't feel like jk did something super wrong cause she has no say in what he does while they weren't together.

However I do partly understand others points that "How could he touch another woman after what oc and him went through" But regardless of his feelings towards oc, that doesn't mean he can't try to move on or sleep with someone else. So what's the problem? Did people genuinely expect him to rot in his room without thinking about another woman just cause of oc? He's a human being that once in a while of course needs affection and in fact I think it's much more healthy than staying by himself all day and crying about the situation forever yk?

Sorry I did not mean to make it thing long, I could talk about this for ages but I just thought I'd let you know I understand how you're thinking. Cause all I've been seeing is mostly everyone thinking what he did was all wrong and he shouldn't be forgiven, and why would he sleep with someone else when theres oc. when in reality they are literally not together and hasn't been for months. He did nothing wrong by sleeping with Lisa, it's not his fault that oc randomly decided to come back right on the day he was with someone else. I don't see a problem with jks actions at all.

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK📢

[nerdygaymormon]

hello! o/ im a queer teenager from canada! i lead my highschool's gsa and am very active in the queer community around us. we raised $800 for the Trevor Project last year, raised $500 towards a chest binder breakroom at our school and are officially putting on the school's first all-age queer prom this may!

however, im very confused at the moment. i grew up in an atheist household and have never really found myself believing in God or anything religious. while i still dont think i believe ALL of it, lately ive been doing a lot of thinking after finding an old pocket bible that belonged to my great grandmother (she practically raised me but i never knew she was religious, she never mentioned it at all) and flipping through it and reading her flagged scriptures (i believe thats what theyre called, forgive me if im wrong), etc.

i then resorted to the internet and have been doing a bit of research and am now very conflicted about my feelings and beliefs. i now have moments where i genuinely believe there is something/someone divine out there. i find myself... almost talking to it, sometimes? i dont really know how to describe it. i even tried praying the other day for the first time in my life. (i probably didnt do it right if theres a proper way, but the point is i did it and i surprised myself.)

even though i have these moments, i still have times where i doubt it all. aside from the occasional joke, ive always done my best to be respectful of people's faith, but never saw myself believing until now. and when i say believe, like i said before, it isnt all of it. (like the creation of the world, etc)

i feel sort of fake in a way i dont know how to describe because of my conflicted feelings and how i dont believe everything. there are a lot of things i want to say about it but i really cant pull words from the emotions and i keep trying to. i also dont really have anyone in my life who i can talk to about this stuff. my family will not take me seriously and none of my friends and teachers are religious.

i dont know if you take asks like this, and its totally fine if you dont, but if you have any kind of advice it would be greatly appreciated.

sorry for the long ask, but thanks so much! hope youre having a wonderful day my friend 🤍

Congratulations for all you accomplish for queer students at your school! That's amazing!!!

That you find some aspects with religion resonates with you shouldn't be surprising or upsetting. Humans have been creating and practicing religions since before there was recorded history. There seems to be a need that is satisfied by religion.

In a broad sense, religion does 3 thing:

1. It provides an explanation for natural phenomena. Why is the ground shaking? Why did the sun go dark temporarily? Why is there a drought? Why is dad sick? Why did a hurricane pummel New Orleans?

2. Religions provide meaning to life. Religion provides answers for what is the purpose of life and what happens when we die. Religions are a vehicle for passing along the wisdom from past generations from hundreds and thousands of years ago.

3. Religion helps humans build community and encourages cooperation among those who believe. Religious belief also helps people develop self-discipline. Unfortunately, religions also have been used to define who is in a community and who is not, and this has led to a lot of harm and even wars

Beyond all these macro reasons, religion is experienced at the individual level. An individual prays and receive comfort and answers and feels a larger entity cares about them. Their faith gives them a purpose. They have a community that is meaningful in their lives. This is part of the truth of their lived experience and can't be easily quantified. It's what makes religion still relevant in the lives of many people today

[officialclangen]

Hi!! I just wanted to ask for some clarification on some things you mentioned about your coding- Im learning python (sorta) and id like to know the reasonings?

For history, cant you just make a text file while working on the main history feature? After some fiddling around i got the game to create a text file and put event text that wasn't interactions in said file. I think it'd help since if things get bloated the player can just copy the text to a google doc and delete all previous text- the code i whipped up works fine this way. Pasting it below, idk if tumblr will fuck it up tho.

def print_all_events_test(self, event_list):

with open("my_file.txt", "a") as f:

f.write("\nMoon "+ str(game.clan.age)+"\n\n")

for event in event_list:

if not "interaction" in event.types:

try:

f.write(event.text + "\n")

except:

print("Error, no Event Text found.\n")

Put the declaration on line 233 (before loaded events were cleared), with game.cur_events_list as the event_list. I know theres apparently security concerns with using files or calling them but I know WAY too little to know if a txt file will send my computer into chaos. "my_file" should also be named after the clan name, and in its own folder for neatness. Using this also means history (ingame) can be deleted after x moons to prevent bloating overall? If the player still wants the deleted history, they just need to go to the text file. Should help with people who want to copy text too, since no longer will screenshots be needed!

As for prophecies, cant you make a hidden illness for a prophecy that gets added to 1-3 cats, that gets cured after x days (aka when the prophecy is fulfilled, from what I've seen in the code illnesses get cured after x days so if multiple cats get the prophecy illness they should all be 'cured' on the same day)? It'll be work to add stuff like multiple cats in a single prophecy and adding personality into the mix but it shouldn't be outright impossible, right? Grieving seems to work similarly so the template seems to be there.

Me coming into ur asks (yes theres better places for this im just anxious @ the discord channels lmao) is 100% a sign of love for the game. I also would like to know if the ideas would work or not, i am genuinely curious about if they've been considered and (if so) the reasons why they weren't implemented! Love yall :)

Yes, we could implement a history txt file but it would become very large very quickly. And while we could try and count on the player to get rid of the file if it's causing lag, there would end up being a lot of players who don't understand how to navigate files and wouldn't know how to delete the txt file. Once the file gets big enough it'll make timeskips begin to lag out as the file is opened and changed by the game, and then held open until the game is saved once again (since the file can't be saved and closed before the player saves the game, in case the player closes without saving). It'll also take up memory during this process.

Basically, it would use resources that we feel would be better allocated to handling other areas of the game.

The problem with prophecies is that there's a million different things that a prophecy could be predicting. Is it predicting a new special cat (like firestar), is it predicting something far in that cat's future (bluestar), perhaps it's predicting an illness or a disaster, maybe it predicts a lost cat returning. There's so many options and the moment that the game starts dictating the meaning of the prophecy is the moment that those options become significantly fewer.

If we do decide to dictate the 'meaning' of a prophecy, then there's the added trouble of ensuring that any cats integral to the prophecy don't get killed or permanently changed in a way that makes the prophecy stop making sense. We have begun working on an "ongoing event" system that would control events spanning over multiple moons. This will eventually be used for things like natural disasters and wars, and if we wanted to we could potentially use it for prophecies. But, as said, that poses a lot of difficulties with having to "soft lock" any cats included in that prophecy so that they only change in specific ways that make sense. This would require a ton of work to code in.

It's never impossible but sometimes it can be unreasonable, and this is a case where we feel that "real" prophecies would be unreasonable.

I hope that reasoning makes sense! Thanks for asking <3

[gayhenrycreel]

jesus christ it sucks to have to carefully read every post about palestine to check for american antisemitism, and check posts (note, this is only posts made by gentiles as far as ive seen) on this antisemitism for american islamophobia.

if you're wondering why i dont reblog many posts about palestine, its because they either have zero sources and are just screenshots from twitter (and yes, some twitter account you only know of from screenshots is not a reliable source), or are full of (hopefully unintended) nazi dogwhistles.

you need to learn these dogwhistles. dont just reblog posts about them. actually memorize them, study examples of them, train your brain to recognise them as efficiently as you do a swastika.

trust me, you can train your brain to immediately set off the alarms if you recognise one.

ive trained myself to recognise a lot of dogwhistles, not all of them of course, because theres so many, but thats why its a continuous effort.

this link is a wiki that contains a list of alt right dogwhistles on another page too.

okay, before you set off the fire alarm, read this post first:

this link does discuss extreme antizionism.

i will say first that antizionism AND zionism can both be antisemitic (see; christian zionism and the second coming of christ), but they are not always.

I AM NOT SAYING ANTIZIONISM IS BAD.

i consider myself antizionist. im an anarchist, how could i possibly support a state?

what i am saying is that those who are already antisemitic are using antizionism as an excuse for antisemitism. this can and does occur on the left. leftwing conspiracy theories do exist (some are actually the same as rightwing ones. you think the rich are collaborating together do you? who are those rich people? cause it certainly isnt the billionares who have no reason at all to like each other. whos controlling western media? is it the west? nah it must be that really small country thats basically owned by america, the westernest west to ever west.).

this applies to you.

every single human being carries the antisemitism we learned from society. i am not exempt. you are not exempt.

you may genuinely believe that you are not an antisemite. you hate hitler, right?

but you likely still think big noses are ugly. you think that the trope of a hook nosed greedy trader is just about elon musk dont you?

do you feel threatened by the use of hebrew? i did until just last year.

in western society, its rare for someone to have multiple native languages. you speak english. you hear someone speak words you dont understand. your immediate reaction is to wonder if they are up to something. talking shit about you? maybe even plotting terrorism?

of course you feel threatened by the use of other languages, youve been trained to think its suspicious.

train yourself to just not care when someone casually speaks hebrew, or arabic, or navajo in your proximity. if you dont care when people speak english, you shouldn't care when people speak another language. your not trying to eavesdrop right?

this subtle bigotry is why you are probably antisemitic, even if you are a perfect little leftist.

i want to talk about the blood libel being spouted by way to many leftists.

shockingly few people actually know what blood libel means.

basically, its a 1000 year old conspiracy theory claimng that jewish people steal and eat christian babies. this is all over media. did you see the new doctor who special? it was horrible.

in media this is often tied with goblins, which are historically (and often continue to be) portrayed as an antisemitic stereotype. SURELY YOU CAN RECOGNISE THAT BIG NOSED GREEDY GOBLINS CONTROLLING THE ECONOMY IS ANTISEMITIC.

okay, disclaimer, children are dying in gaza. israel is killing them.

but dont act like this is the only thing happening. they are not actively sending soldiers out to kill children specifically. this is equally affecting adults.

dont believe me that blood libel is being applied?

i saw some tumblr users joking about how the idf is kidnapping children and eating them. i went to their blogs to block them, expecting to see 88 everywhere (88 is code for hh, or hail hitler, btw), but no THEY WERE ALL "ANTIZIONIST" LEFTISTS WITH ACAB IN THEIR BIOS. those jokes are bad for everyone, its blood libel and making fun of actual victims of genocide.

sorry, im just... pissed off that my mutuals will reblog something about how using this as an excuse for antisemitism is bad, but still reblog posts full of dogwhistles.

a mutual of a mutual even reblogged a post claiming that antisemitism has not increased and that its a lie. i wont block you, ive seen your better reblogs, and it only happened once, but i urge you to properly read what you reblog.

i dont blame anyone for not knowing. ive had things to learn too. but please, stop reblogging globalist conspiracy theories.

as i write this its 4:20 sorry you may continue reading.

im not trying to be a dick. i dont blame you. i blame society. and this is not a you thing either.

its also a me thing.

its an everyone thing.

i also hate being challenged (i once punched a teacher for being wrong about the sun).

being challenged is how we learn.

ive also reblogged posts i really should not have reblogged.

i was ignorant. it will undoubtedly happen again.

unlearning bigotry is a lifelong commitment.

oh my god i just remembered how 8 year old me believed in phrenology.

i really hold nothing against you.

remember how most queer people were homophobic before The Realization?

we as a society need to go through that process of acceptance. you will never get everything right. none of us will.

what matters is trying

[mithliya]

Sorry if this is rude please I am trying to educate myself As an ex Muslim woman I kind of struggle because people say I should support Is ra. El. Since it's the only country in the middle east that actually gives gay people and women their rights. I am genuinely trying to learn a bit more so I would appreciate sources and things to read. There is also arguments around the way that Pale.....stinians are of Arabian descendants who came in during Muslim conquests. I support a middle east that is de arabized and instead embraces it's other indigenous identities. So I struggle a bit because Jewish people are descendents of Hebrews and Isra..eli.....tes. Shouldn't we technically support that as ex Muslim feminists?

why does being ex-muslim mean we should support a colonial state? its such a bizarre argument to me 😭😭

“the only country in the middle east that actually gives gay people and women their rights” for one their pinkwashing is ridiculous because they dont. even have same sex marriage. they just will recognise it if you get married elsewhere. i dont know their women’s rights but they certainly arent the beacon of either gay rights or womens rights and its still bizarre to me to weaponise giving basic human rights to minority groups and then saying this state should be unconditionally supported on that basis despite the racism and inequality and colonialism underlying the existence of the state & its continuation.

the stuff about palestinians being from the arabian peninsula is just uninformed unbacked nonsense. u can check my tags on the topic but theres numerous studies which show that palestinians are very much indigenous to the levant and are very clearly a different group from saudi arabians for example. in fact studies found that every jewish group has shared ancestry with palestinians. research indicates that palestinians were the same indigenous people who never left.

this is in line with other arabised populations— we werent replaced as populations in the muslim conquests. we converted. sure, many of us have some arabian admixture but its clear that the “arabs” in the middle east & north africa share linguistic and cultural and religious traits, but not actual lineage. plus we look pretty visibly different from one another for a reason…

arabisation is primarily found in things like language and some superficial cultural traits, not genes. supporting the genocide or persecution for palestinians isnt somehow supporting dearabisation

“jewish people are the descendants of hebrews and israelites” not all of them are, and jewish people have lived in various parts of the world for thousands of years so, as is normal, they’ve mixed with the populations they’ve lived among and arent somehow more entitled to palestinian land due to distant ancestry. palestinians have distant and modern ancestral ties to their land. framing them as coloniser arabs is baseless nonsense.

“shouldnt we technically support that as ex muslim feminists?” i honestly do not understand why you believe zi0nism is sth anyone Should support esp not ex muslims or feminists. before the formation of israel there were palestinian christians and palestinian jews, palestinians were never just a group of muslims altho yes after the islamic conquests, the majority became muslim. this is the case for most of arabised nations but it doesnt mean that we somehow deserve to be harmed and persecuted and have our homes & dignity & land taken from us bc our ancestors converted over a 1000 years ago. im just not understanding ur logic here tbh.

[system-of-a-feather]

On the topic of empathy, I dunno why but it kinda seems weird to me that like, people think you need to be able to put yourself in someone’s shoes or whatever to be a good person when like, why should being able to feel someone else’s pain be a required motivator to do good? It almost seems kinda shallow to be motivated by empathy than actively choosing to do good.

I agree, however I try to - at least on public platforms - refrain from calling it "shallow" on the account that someone with empathy might take that as me stating that they are bad / wrong for being motivated by an experience they can't control and / or that their good behavior is no longer "good" or worse is now "bad" because its motivated by a desire for relief. I don't necessarily think it is healthy, but I will never genuinely be mad at someone doing the correct thing for reasons that are as simple as "I felt REALLY bad and couldn't not do something". Can that be a slippery slope to some really dangerous self sacrificial behavior that I personally find annoying? Yeah. Is it missing the entire point (in my opinion)? Yeah. Is it wrong or the problem to address here more than, you know, the actual problem? Nah.

Like ask me this on my personal blog or if you knew me irl to my face and I'd probably go raging on about it cause I bitch much more openly on those areas with an understanding that I say much more extreme and un-nuanced takes than I actually mean cause it takes too much effort and energy for me to curate and acknowledge that my opinion and view on things are probably inherently skewed and all.

Do I think its better to do things because you understand the system is broken and just on sole principle of thinking that shouldn't be a thing? Yeah, but of course I do - thats how I exist and I have a huge fucking ego. So of course I think that and of course that is my genuine opinion. And me acknowledging that "of course I do" doesn't lessen that that is my genuine opinion.

But I also think its entirely dysfunctional to actually pit people who are doing good motivated by empathy against people who are doing good just because of principle / an understanding of the broken system. We're both doing the same thing, does the drive really matter? Plus honestly, if my very very limited experiences of empathy tell me anything, people who are cursed with chronic empathy honestly probably are chronically struggling to cope with that, so I don't think it is wrong or bad to be motivated by your own needs and ability to cope.

Like HONESTLY, I'd be a huge fucking hypocrite if I knocked doing things for "selfish reasons" or people having "shallow reasons" for doing things cause *motions to self in NPD and ASPD* I do a lot of things for shallow reasons and selfish reasons.

There's nothing wrong with looking out for yourself, and theres nothing wrong with looking out for yourself more than others (to an extent, looking at any billionaires there) cause not everyone has the resources and ability - mentally, physically, or financially - to be motivated for the "right reasons".

To each as they can give, to all as they need. If all someone can give currently is a HEALTHY amount of assistance driven by a need to cope with their empathy themselves? Thats fine. Thats respectable.

That said, anyone tearing their arms off to "do the right thing" and parading around like a hero, those people piss me off. They need help and are mentally ill and struggling, but quite frankly, being nice to people like that and having functional coping and communication with them is far far far far far above my emotional self restraint and control and entirely a job for Riku or a protector in our system.

I really fucking hate overt performative behavior and my hate is not "functional", but ya know.

Anyways, usually I'd just go "lol yeah honestly" or "lol right" because thats my opinion on the matter, but due to the following we have on here and respect for this being a little more (not super) serious of a platform than people in my casual circle irl and my blog, I try to keep and voice my more nuanced thoughts on a topic than what I feel out of principle of dedication to my goals and responsibility as someone with anything of a platform.

I recognize that posts like this will reach much more people than my personal blog and that some people on here value what I have to say, so I have an inherent responsibility to at least try to leave room for nuance and not perpetuate inter-community discourse that would just slow down the core purpose of - ya know, the shit I actually want.

-XIV

[zofiathezazabeast777]

aftersun (2022)

I fell in love with this movie for a number of reasons, that being, paul mescal, the cinematography, the color-grading, and how it mirrors perfectly with my own relationship with my father.

diving into paul mescal's character, calum, he is just incredibly easy to connect with. I'm not a 30 year old going through a mid life crisis with an eleven year old daughter, yet I see myself in his character so clearly. I'm not self diagnosing myself with depression but I think the same way as him, react the same way, etc. in the movie, we see that on one night, in the heat of the moment he upsets sophie and reacts in a way we haven't seen him react. I always end up upsetting the people around me because of my short fuse and how easy it is for me to get scared or defensive. I always end up feeling massive amounts of guilt in the end and wallow in self pity. the way calum storms off to the beach due to his guilt makes me resonate with him so easily.

diving into frankie's character, sophie, it's like I know her all too well. I've been in her place, having a special bond with my dad but his issues preventing us from being a genuine family. growing up too fast and understanding things you shouldn't at that age, like how after Sophie finished up karaoke without her father. Calum goes, "I can get you singing lessons if you like" and then Sophie goes, "stop doing that... stop offering to pay for things when you don't have the money.." you see how calum's face drops when he realizes that she meant what she said. its heartbreaking when you've done the same thing. in the first half of the movie theres a scene where they are swimming in the ocean, and calum passes sophie her goggles in the water but she doesnt notice, but they're too late to retrieve them since they've sunk so far down. after that scene, sophie apologizes to calum and says "I'm sorry, I knew they were expensive." Sophie already feels guilty for something she didn't mean to, and we see how much she understands what her dad is going through.

throughout the whole movie, calum tries his hardest to hide what he's going thru away from sophie.

[bridgespider]

The way this post makes my brain explode should be studied. It honestly seems so privileged to not have to know about how truly hazardous pregnancy is for anybody, at any age. Really, I wish I could live in a world where I could think like this, but I do not. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions; I may disagree with yours but that's okay! That isn't what annoys me about this post. What does in fact annoy me is the blatant ignorance towards pregnancy as a whole, and how much everything can affect it.

Before I start, did you know that in 2017 alone The World Health Organization estimated that about 300,000 women died because of pregnancy-related causes? Did you know that amounts to 808 women a DAY who died because of it? Do you believe all those women were in their 40s or 50s?

Now I've read through your post, and I won't lie it isn't all complete garbage! I could skip over all of your incredibly insane rambles about the fact that there needed to be another adult who groomed Anakin to make it interesting. Or the fact that someone in her mid-twenties, deciding to have a relationship with her 'dead' husband's brother figure, (who btw has had no interest in her) would seem like, as you have stated "doesn't feel like a decision she's making so much as the circumstances acting upon her" which then treats her as if she's too immature, and I won't lie to me feels like it's almost slutshaming, there would still be so much that would piss me off about this.

Now let's start at the top, shall we?

"-like already in the original she shouldn't have kept the baby but the movie is christian and the audience too the vibe is "noo pregnancy is beautiful its luke and leia awww"." Yes, I agree there should be nervousness surrounding the pregnancy, you aren't wrong about this. What they are doing is treason, it will jeopardize their lives. What blows my mind is genuinely how hysterical this take is though. Did we watch the same franchise? The reason these two did not keep the baby is not because "the movie is Christian" The reason they kept the baby is because these two were married!!! They were in love!!! They wanted to have a family together but knew they couldn't!!! That's why this situation wasn't planned!!! Yes, they could have had an abortion, and that should always be a choice. If you actually understood their characters, you would understand why they didn't!!! They genuinely wanted their baby!!! These two never would have started a family because they knew how dangerous that was!! Once they actually were having one though, and they assumed the war was ending, this was a blessing for them! She didn't keep the baby because "it's luke and leia awww" She kept it because this was the next step, they had DREAMED of getting to have one day.

"-like young padmé is healthy and rich, she'll have the best medical care theres no reason to think her pregnancy will have complications" The only part about this sentence that has truth to it is that fact that Padme being rich may help her out. A big part of pregnancy-caused deaths is because of lack of healthcare and help. Since Padme has money and was a Queen, she would have support that could help her. Really, that's the only backbone to this entire part of your post. Padme being "young" and "healthy" does not matter. Yes, this gives her more likely odds of having a safer birth and pregnancy, but also means jack shit in the grand scheme of things. Did you know that 25 to 34 percent of women have traumatic births? May I repeat my question, do you believe all these women are in their 40s-50s? My own mother was about the same age as Padme was when she gave birth to the twins, and she was healthy when she gave birth to me. Her own birth was so traumatizing that neither she nor my father can remember big chunks of it because their brains physically locked it away.

You may not understand this, which is why I am almost 100 percent certain you are not a female, but every single pregnancy is incredibly dangerous. Every single body is different. Some people's bodies, they're completely healthy, it may seem so on the outside, but inside there are things that happen. Complications can so fucking easily happen it's terrifying. There are so many little things that can go wrong. Parts of yourself not fully developing. Hiccups in pushing. Parts of your baby get stuck inside of you, and it's slowly killing both of you. These things happen to everyone. They will continue to happen to everyone. It's terrifying. You could be 17, 23, 34, or 45 and all of these risks are the same. Did you know young pregnancies are as dangerous as older pregnancies? There are so many reasons for people to believe that complications could happen. Yes, she seemed healthy, and yes she was younger, but that DOES NOT MEAN COMPLICATIONS CAN'T HAPPEN!!!

"She died of grief while fully healthy which i think everyone can agree was fucking stupid." Now this is the age-old debate. What it seems everyone can't seem to handle in a franchise about space wizards. Yes, this situation may seem 'boring', people may have theories they prefer, that's okay! What I can't stand is you saying that everyone can agree with it being "fucking stupid."

A lot of people do not realize how dangerous stress can be to not only women but their babies when pregnant. Can you imagine how much stress she must have been under while being a politician during a literal all out galactic WAR? This is at the bare minimum something that could have been stressing her out for MONTHS before Anakin ever came back.

There are two ways you can look at Padme's death. She either died of a broken heart, or from the pure stress put on her. BOTH are just as understandable and logical.

If you go the stress route, this poor girl was stressing for MONTHS because of the War going on, the fact that her Husband, the father of her baby was out there fighting and may not come home is another contender for her stress levels being way worse than normal. Dude, the stress she went through alone could have easily pushed her into premature labor and caused so many dangerous complications.

If you go the broken heart route, there's even more understanding of why this could have happened. The first thing that happens on the night she dies, is she watches the Jedi Temple be burned to the ground from her apartment. She KNOWS this is happening, she watches it, and she's terrified that Anakin could be hurt.

Then, she has Obi-Wan come and tell her that Anakin killed all the younglings. The love of her life, the father to the almost fully conceived child in her stomach just slaughtered almost every single Jedi child. The love of her life, her other half just slaughtered every single child that was in the temple. Kids that looked up to him. Children that he may have gotten to meet in passing. She doesn't know he hesitated; she doesn't know that he almost let them go.

Then, she on her own, she thought, went to go find him. She had to witness firsthand how he's changed. How the person she loves is gone. Then, when he's angry at her, HE STRANGLES HER. He cuts off her airflow for at LEAST ten seconds, if not longer. Do you understand how dangerous cutting off airflow can be?? If you're cutting off her airflow then guess what, you're cutting off the BABIES' airflow. There are so many factories that could have played into her death. She hit her head on the ground. Her throat probably swelled up from being choked out. And then she was left there while Obi-Wan took care of Anakin.

Then, Padme had to go through labor almost alone. She had Obi-Wan there, but the father of her children were not there. This can really affect some women!!! Not having their support system there can really fuck with you!!! Obi-Wan just left his brother to die in his mind!! He is not doing alright, and he is not going to be able to help out much here.

This all could have very easily broken her heart!! Which is a genuine thing that happens!! Stress and grief can actually cause so much stress on your heart that you can actually break it!! No, it does not break in half. What happens, is small tears can happen to your heart, and it can kill you. It isn't a high percentage, I can admit that, but do you think with all the stress on her, the pure grief of losing her Husband, the physical things she's gone through, and the fact she is in ACTIVE LABOR could easily have a large factor of making her apart of that percentile? Because I sure do.

Now, this was the end of most of your incredibly ridiculous pregnancy takes, and ignorance. But you know, you just kept going. You just kept saying the most ridiculous and out-of-pocket things I've ever had to witness reading.

I'm going to speedrun this part hopefully, because I don't know if mentally, I can't handle these fucking takes anymore.

"Now they're making strange, emotionally driven and unexpected decisions instead of following the script-" Do you think committing treason by falling in love, getting married, and having a baby is on script? Do you think these were not strange, emotionally driven decisions? Do you think we as a watcher of a movie where this happened would not see it coming just because she's "Old"? I promise you, most people who have eyes can usually pick up on hints, I'm so sorry if you aren't able to do that. Though, it would make sense, since you don't have comprehension skills.

God, Jesus fucking Christ now we're here to this part. This part genuinely makes me wonder if you were fucking high when you wrote this.

Okay, let's start this crazy ass trainwreck I've had to read several times. "delicious wonderful scenario where obiwan and padmé have an affair after anakin joins the dark side" First, let me tell you how stupid this is. Yes, things can happen because of grief. It is not unheard of for people, especially a widowed wife and a husband's brother to hook up. These characters though would just genuinely never?? We now have concrete evidence with Ahsoka and The Mandalorian that YES, the Clone Wars is canon to live-action Star Wars. All those dudebros that don't believe that can finally let that debate go. Let's start with the fact that Obi-Wan has loved one person, and that was Satine, who IS canon. As well as Padme who truly loved Anakin with her entire being because she saw what good was in him. Neither of these would ever have an affair. That would butcher their ENTIRE characters.

"Giving in to emotion is what a romantic heroine is supposed to do. But older padmé sleeping with obiwan after losing her extremely young husband to the dark side while at most 5 days away from giving birth is like" I got to say the fact that you're saying they're having an affair when she's FIVE DAYS AWAY from giving birth is genuinely so fucking funny. Yes, people can have sex when pregnant. The fact that you're already basing this off of such a fucking crazy idea and then saying 'Yes!!! These two-grieving people!! One who is in her late 40s or early 50s who is also grooming another person is having sex while she is 5 days away from giving birth!! With her husband's brother/father figure! They're grieving, that's why this is happening!" Genuinely makes me want to rip my eyes out of my fucking skull. Like?? What does any of this have to do with anything? Is this you saying you wished this happened? That you wanted a grieving Obi-Wan and Padme to fuck? Because truly there is no other reason for this to be brought up. Literally, nobody asked.

Then you go on to talk about how it would be an actual decision as if all of her other choices were not 'actual' decisions. It's just so fucking ridiculous and honestly fucking stupid. "For the THIRD time, she acts out of feeling instead of reason and seals her fate." What? You needed a 'third times the charm' to completely butcher her character?

"its kind of a misogynistic character arc but i don't care" This genuinely made me laugh, thank you for at least truly getting a laugh out of me. Makes me feel like my time wasn't fully fucking wasted. I just find it so funny because you're saying it's misogynistic when your entire fucking take sounds misogynistic. It's just lowkey confirming what I bet a lot of people thought about this post.

I've already written so much and yet have barely scratched the surface of how you basically turned her into a groomer. You're saying that you wouldn't change much other than her age. Does that mean a 7-year-old meets a grown-ass adult and ends up marrying her? Do you understand how fucking gross that is?? Like I barely even touched on it, but you made such a vile scenario.

I just. dear lord, I'm so happy this is over. What a fucking journey of having to live through these horrendous thoughts you spit out onto this damned website. Normally I'm not this rude but normally I don't run into this level of stupidity. Maybe if you weren't so ignorant about pregnancy, I wouldn't have even cared to make this, but I had to at least correct the blatant stupidity in this post.

Had Padmé been 20-30 years older than anakin instead of 2-3 it wouldve fixed a significant portion of the franchise, including padmé's own chracterization

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Marston did not "white wash" Ancient Greek culture. It's just a prominent part of western culture.

Also no one alive now, nor in the 40s when she was created, was from Ancient Greece or had some cultural claim to Ancient Greek culture or the religion to genuinely claim it's offensive or anything akin to "appropriation" or reductive to a still alive group of people since its called "Ancient Greece" for a reason.

You shouldn't be applying modern sociological phenomenons or terms to describe people talking about or using any part of a long dead society or the practices or beliefs of the people that were apart of it a very long time ago and was one of the most powerful, dominant and influential cornerstones to Western Society the same way you would a marginalized community of people that still exist in modern day. This is just silly.

The Amazons in DC were not meant to be historically accurate or anything like that. They were purposefully used and reinterpreted to build the mythology of a superhero in pulp fiction to represent a very specific idea. They were not meant to look like any racial group other than ones that would relate specifically to the American audience they were created for. They were not meant to be warriors but super powered beings. They did not use sword and shields but advanced technology and science. Their worship was specifically crafted around certain themes and ideas that were specific to Marston and his interests.

Theres nothing wrong with any of these things and he clearly took a very inspired, well thoughtout approach to ensure he made his version of the Amazons specific to what he was intending to portray while still being written faithfully and in line with the myths that inspired them.

It doesn't even make sense to say they aren't faithful to the source material because they are not characters created in a previous literary work but mythological figures that were used as inspiration for a pulp fiction super hero adventure comic. You choosing to be offended over something you can't possibly have any legitimate claim to anymore than anyone else raised in Western society or somewhere heavily touched by it is you purposefully misapplying ideas, concepts, dynamics that apply to real living things to something that would not even make sense given that the people that would even need to be around for to claim such offenses don't exist and would not do so since they were not marginalized groups of people that had their culture torn from them but a vast collection of some of the most influential and powerful forces in history that were able to spread their culture so far that it impacted all of the world, specifically the West, where people with a specific phenotype you are trying to claim is being used to "erase" people would also have this culture be foundational to the world around them and have as much claim as anyone that is presumably more phenotypically close to the supposed people that cultivated this culture despite the fact that the existing inhabitants of part of the world practice a completely different culture and religion due to their ancestors converting to Christianity and this religion and anyone that could trace their practices and beliefs back to the ancient culture they hail from having passed away without keeping it alive. So the only people that still worship or practice are re constructionist and later practitioners that are not related to those Ancient Greeks at all.

This is what I mean when I say the "Wonder Woman fandom" misapplies modern sociological ideas and politics to make an issue that simply does not exist.

Paradise island was likely in the Pacific Ocean, no where near Europe or Eurasia or the Mediterranean. Diana was modeled after an Irish woman with white skin, blue eyes, and black hair. The Amazons were meant to have the racial phenotypes common to Americans, obviously white Americans, of that time and not any sort of supposedly resemblance to what Academics say the "real amazons" would have looked like or were modeled after. It is fantasy to appeal to an American audience and that is not a bad thing at all.

Even when understanding the underlying beliefs and desires behind the Amazons meaning to appeal to an American audience so they were all very clearly white women there is no such thing as "white washing" the Amazons or anything like that. Frankly, there should be more concern with diversifying the Amazons to include more racial groups that are prominent in the US, like black people, as opposed to trying to perfectly emulate the characteristics of a fictional group of women that these Amazons were not meant to represent or look or be like in the first place.

Its just trying to ruin the character under the guise of "realism" or "historical accuracy" when the whole point is that they are neither of those things and trying to make them that flies in the face of their creation.