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Did a 15+ hour road trip with my fam twice a little ago and I drove a good chunk of it. Used AA/DGS music to keep me awake bc music psych is a blessing sometimes. Anyway, just a roundabout way to say, I have discovered some fun things in the music that made me 👀👀👀 Idk if anyone else has noticed any of it (and I will say I have minimal music theory knowledge but I'm an English major with the tendency to read into symbolism way too much), but feel to keep reading if you're interested! Spoilers for DGS2 are in here, fair warning!
I'll try and include links to the songs when I can! It'll probably be a mix of Spotify and YouTube hyperlinks so bear with me. Fair warning, this is super long because I decided to cram everything in one post oops lmao
The Funky Time Signature
The first thing I really ever noticed was that Sholmes' "Dance of Deduction"s were weird in terms of keeping beat. It's not in common time aka 4/4 aka 8-count; I think it's in 7/8 time (so you count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 etc. etc.) which is a struggle to maintain counting since people are so used to 3, 4, and 8-counts.
Dance of Deduction - Type A
I found sheet music for easier counting! It says it's in 7/4: https://youtu.be/51vTmoQzwI8
Originally, I thought it was just because he's Weird and Silly™, but I ended up listening to "Partners - The game is afoot" which plays when Sholmes and Yuujin are on the S.S. Grouse trying to deduce where Jigoku is.
Partners - The game is afoot!
This one is surprisingly in 4/4 aka common time (you count 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 etc. etc. [though I have seen sheets put it in 12/8, which is close-ish, but it still has an even counting pattern WHICH IS WHAT MATTERS]). So in actuality, Shomles' Dance of Deductions aren't in a weird time signature because he's our favorite eccentric boy (okay, it might be part that too); it's because he's missing his partner after he left and investigating never felt quite right without him. Once he and Yuujin get to investigate together again, he's whole and happy. And it's just so fucking gay I can't.
Harpsichord
The big thing I noticed while I was driving (because there was nothing else interesting on the road) was the use of harpsichords in certain Londoner themes, specifically Stronghart, van Zieks, Iris, and Kazuma's prosecutor theme, as well as some of the final songs during 2-4&5.
If you don't know, this is what a harpsichord sounds like! Yes, I know I'm a nerd for being able to pick it out and name it while driving lmao
You can hear it a lot in Stronghart's theme, specifically around 0:38-0:49 (it's pretty in the background so you kinda have to strain your ears but it's there), but it's also pretty present throughout his theme.
Lord Chief Justice Stronghart - Time-Keeper of the Law
There's also a lot of it in van Zieks' theme as well; it's right off the bat and it's one of the prominent instruments throughout the piece.
Barok van Zieks - The Reaper of the Bailey
You have to really be listening for it, but it pops up occasionally in Iris' theme as well! You kinda have to strain your ears during 0:16-0:30 to hear it, but it's definitely there. It's more hidden compared to van Zieks'.
Iris Wilson - Young Biographer
I know Kazuma is Japanese, however, since he became a prosecutor in Britain, it still counts and it makes more sense once I tell you why it's all related (if you haven't guessed yet). ANYWAY, his theme also has a lot of harpsichord in it, even in the parts that were from his original theme.
A Prosecutor, Reborn
This could all just be a stylistic choice too, but do you see it yet? All the people who correspond with these themes are directly related to the Professor killings. van Zieks and Kazuma have the most prominent because we know by 2-4 the obvious connections they both hold. Iris and Stronghart's are more in the background since both of their involvements are big reveal-type deals by the end of the game.
Bonus points: the actual theme that plays when anything related to the Professor is mentioned also has some background harpsichord to connect it all.
The Professor - A Spectre Revived
I will note that I didn't notice anything in Gregson's theme, even though he played a big part in the false conviction. Courtney Sythe's theme also has some harpsichord, but I can't remember how she's related to it other than the fact that she helped with the autopsy (which probably means I should replay the games again lol).
Other game music that proves the connection:
Enoch Drebber - Rondo of Science and Magic
The Great Gateway to the Truth
The Prison Warders
The Great Closed Trial - Court is Now in Session
Reminiscences - The Fruits of Ambition
Others I probably completely missed
A Prosecutor, Reborn
Speaking of Kazuma's prosecutor theme, one of the really cool things about its composition is the warring back and forth between itself. It starts with the completely new theme, blending his usual string accompaniment with drums/cymbals, singular bell tolls, and harpsichord. When it gets to around 0:47, you hear the bells and then it switches back to his original theme from Adventures, though it's a lot grander now and lacking a lot of the traditional Japanese elements it once had.
A Prosecutor, Reborn
Kazuma Asougi - Samurai on a Mission
And it bounces back and forth like that until the end of the song, the bells signifying the shifting. It goes to show this internal struggle Kazuma is having between finding the truth even if it's something he won't like (his original theme) and following his emotions to falsely convict van Zieks as revenge (the beginning chunk of his prosecutor theme).
I also think it's interesting how dominating the harpsichord is, again especially over the chunks of his original theme from Adventures. In connection to it being related to the Professor, aside from the obvious connection to his father, it also shows how much influence and manipulation Stronghart had over him, with him being the BBEG.
Siblings
One of my favorite things I noticed was Susato and Kazuma's connections through themes, though not the one you're thinking. Kazuma's official theme I'm sure has a few connections to Susato's (but I haven't listened closely enough to hear them), however I really noticed how intertwined the two were when I listened to Kazuma's unused theme they provided in Chronicles.
Susato Mikotoba - A New Bloom in the New World
Kazuma Asougi (Unused)
Many of the same instruments are used, as well as note and chord progressions. They have the same peaceful/serene vibes too, which is understandable in why Kazuma's was scrapped (even if I do like it a lot). But if this ended up being Kazuma's actual theme, I would've noticed the familial relationship they share instead of my initial thoughts of it purely just being professional.
That's all I've really noticed for now, but I'm sure I'll come across more things as I listen to the soundtrack to study. I will, however, shut up now and let you get back with you day/night/whatever time of day it is for you because this is getting l o n g. If you did read this far, thank you for indulging me and listening to me be a complete nerd ^w^ And definitely feel free to share your thoughts too; I love talking about this stuff if you couldn't tell!
#ace attorney#dgs#the great ace attorney#dgs spoilers#tgaa2 spoilers#herlock sholmes#yuujin mikotoba#mael stronghart#barok van zieks#iris wilson#kazuma asogi#susato mikotoba#symbolism#music theory#im just a nerd pls be nice lol#i had too much time to notice all this while driving#should i've put these all in separate posts? probably but here we are#i shouldve just recorded a video explaining it all LOL#i mean i guess i still can if i get reaaaaaaally bored at work#i've been out of school for a month and my brain really said damn you miss writing essays huh#slk.overanalyzes
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1: Name: Ivy
2: Age: 18
3: 3 Fears: The dark, abandonment, spiders
4: 3 things I love: Music, memes, Uncharted
5: 4 turn ons: Uhh I don’t really know, I guess (in a sense of imitating character voices or something) roleplaying, scratching, light hair pulling, dirty talk???? Idk man
6: 4 turn offs: Ego the size of Betelgeuse (the star), pushy attitudes, jealousy, too clingy
7: My best friend: The Internet
8: Sexual orientation: I don’t rightly know what to consider myself, can I put down “Undetermined”?
9: My best first date: I’ve never really been on a proper date
10: How tall am I: 5′ 10″
11: What do I miss: My cat
12: What time was I born: 4:02 pm
13: Favorite color: Black
14: Do I have a crush: Yeah kinda but we’ve only exchanged the phrases “I brought reusable bags” and “Have a nice day” rip
15: Favorite quote: “I won’t be able to enjoy a single one of these coins knowing you and your worthless brother are still sucking air”
16: Favorite place: Anywhere with food
17: Favorite food: Really any kind of red meat or potato
18: Do I use sarcasm: How do I properly answer this
19: What am I listening to right now: The Sound of Silence (there’s nothing on)
20: First thing I notice in new person: Their aura, like what kind of vibe they give off
21: Shoe size: Women’s 11, men’s 9
22: Eye color: Blue
23: Hair color: Brown, dyed blue/mint green undertone
24: Favorite style of clothing: Is black a style
25: Ever done a prank call?: Yeah but I forgot to *67 so it didn’t work lmao
27: Meaning behind my URL: Rafe is daddy af
28: Favorite movie: Idk man I guess Labyrinth
29: Favorite song: Midnight in Transylvania (Indoor Percussion show)
30: Favorite band: Rammstein or SOAD
31: How I feel right now: I’m pretty bored
32: Someone I love: Platonically or what? Platonically I’d go with like David Tennant cuz he’s my dude but like if it were like a legit love interest I’d have to say ya boi @marshythevamp
33: My current relationship status: Single :/
34: My relationship with my parents: Love my mom, dad is reaaaaaaally iffy
35: Favorite holiday: Halloween
36: Tattoos and piercing i have: None
37: Tattoos and piercing i want: Tattoo of something Uncharted related on my arm or something, like a quote
38: The reason I joined Tumblr: I’m trash and I wanted easier access to fanfic
39: Do I and my last ex hate each other?: yES
40: Do I ever get “good morning” or “good night” texts? Yeeeeees <3
41: Have I ever kissed the last person you texted?: No
42: When did I last hold hands?: I don’t even remember
43: How long does it take me to get ready in the morning?: Like 10 minutes
44: Have You shaved your legs in the past three days?: I think so?
45: Where am I right now?: My room
46: If I were drunk and can’t stand, who’s taking care of me?: Why would I be drunk tho
47: Do I like my music loud or at a reasonable level?: Depends
48: Do I live with my Mom and Dad? Just mom
49: Am I excited for anything?: Yeah boi boutta send a birthday present to my best friend that isn’t the Internet
50: Do I have someone of the opposite sex I can tell everything to?: Yeah man
51: How often do I wear a fake smile?: Yeah, at work
52: When was the last time I hugged someone?: Yesterday
53: What if the last person I kissed was kissing someone else right in front of me?: I wouldn’t really care much, but I’d warn the poor girl
54: Is there anyone I trust even though I should not?: I don’t think so
55: What is something I disliked about today?: I worked out for the first time in like ever
56: If I could meet anyone on this earth, who would it be?: Nolan North
57: What do I think about most?: Food probably oops
58: What’s my strangest talent?: I can bend just my fingertips and clover my tongue
59: Do I have any strange phobias?: Public restrooms ????? And black toilets honestly those things are scary, they look like a void
60: Do I prefer to be behind the camera or in front of it?: I like both
61: What was the last lie I told?: “Oh yeah working out was fun”
62: Do I prefer talking on the phone or video chatting online?: Neither really
63: Do I believe in ghosts? How about aliens?: Ghosts, yes. Aliens, no.
64: Do I believe in magic?: What kind of magic? Tricks or like legit stuff--
65: Do I believe in luck?: In a sense
66: What's the weather like right now?: Gloomy, it just rained
67: What was the last book I've read?: Where The Wild Things Are
68: Do I like the smell of gasoline?: Not really
69: Do I have any nicknames?: Adler, Fern
70: What was the worst injury I've ever had?: I broke my foot in sophomore year, broke my elbow in kindergarten. Not sure which was worse.
71: Do I spend money or save it?: A bit of both
72: Can I touch my nose with a tongue?: Ew no
73: Is there anything pink in 10 feet from me?: This one Jesus candle I bought as a gag
74: Favorite animal?: Shark
75: What was I doing last night at 12 AM?: Eating a quesadilla
76: What do I think is Satan’s last name is?: Morningstar, duh.
77: What’s a song that always makes me happy when I hear it?: Catgroove
78: How can you win my heart?: Be nice and respect who I am, it doesn’t really take a whole lot.
79: What would I want to be written on my tombstone?: “This user is Stefan Karl’s meme friend”
80: What is my favorite word?: Hinky
81: My top 5 blogs on tumblr: Comeonrafe, behold-the-goddamn-silver-fox, galaxycat-1459, unchartedwrites, mine-uc BUT LITERALLY I LOVE EVERYONE
82: If the whole world were listening to me right now, what would I say?: “If Sonic is so fast why does Eggman keep catching up to him?”
83: Do I have any relatives in jail?: I think so lmao
84: I accidentally eat some radioactive vegetables. They were good, and what’s even cooler is that they endow me with the super-power of my choice! What is that power?: Wait is this a Simpson’s reference--But I’d choose the ability to bring characters to life (Is that a superpower?)
85: What would be a question I’d be afraid to tell the truth on?: Idk???
86: What is my current desktop picture?: I don’t own a computer man, but my lock screen is Sully
87: Had sex?: Nah
88: Bought condoms?: Nope
89: Gotten pregnant?: Unless I’m the Virgin Mary, no
90: Failed a class?: Yeah oops
91: Kissed a boy?: Ye
92: Kissed a girl?: Ye
93: Have I ever kissed somebody in the rain?: I don’t rightly remember
94: Had a job?: Yeah
95: Left the house without my wallet?: Guilty
96: Bullied someone on the internet?: Only if they started shit with me
97: Had sex in public?: No ?????? Guys why
98: Played on a sports team?: Marching band counts, right? It better count.
99: Smoked weed?: Once or twice. I didn’t like it much.
100: Did drugs?: Other than Mary’s iguana (lmao) no
101: Smoked cigarettes?: One, didn’t like it. Sam, keep your ciggies.
102: Drank alcohol?: Yee don’t tell the cops
103: Am I a vegetarian/vegan?: Nah
104: Been overweight?: I don’t think so
105: Been underweight?: Yeah :/
106: Been to a wedding?: Yes
107: Been on the computer for 5 hours straight?: Those are rookie numbers
108: Watched TV for 5 hours straight?: ROOKIE
109: Been outside my home country?: No :’)
110: Gotten my heart broken?: More than once
111: Been to a professional sports game?: Kinda? I don’t know if you’d call the Reading Phillies “professional”
112: Broken a bone?: Two or three
113: Cut myself?: By accident? Yeah. On purpose? No.
114: Been to prom?: Yeah
115: Been in an airplane: Ye
116: Fly by helicopter?: Nope
117: What concerts have I been to?: Only my own, unless you’d consider Blue Man Group a concert
118: Had a crush on someone of the same sex?: Yes
119: Learned another language?: Yes kinda
120: Wore make up?: Only on occassion
121: Lost my virginity before I was 18?: No
122: Had oral sex?: No
123: Dyed my hair?: Yeah
124: Voted in a presidential election?: No
125: Rode in an ambulance?: No
126: Had a surgery?: No
127: Met someone famous?: Ye
128: Stalked someone on a social network?: Yes oops
129: Peed outside?: YEAH MAN
130: Been fishing?: Yeah
131: Helped with charity?: Yeah
132: Been rejected by a crush?: Mmhm :(
133: Broken a mirror?: No
134: What do I want for birthday?: Meet a voice actor or meme dad himself, Stefan Karl
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