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p-redux · 6 years ago

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I Thought We Were Done, But I Guess Not...More Draaaamaaa Coming Right Up! I Know It’s Long But There Will Be TEA SPILLED. :-) Hope you read it all the way to the end...

Below is how ContemplatingOutlander responded to my post pointing out that the reason the MAJORITY of NST have her blocked is HER treatment of them, and my suggestion that she take some time for self-reflection.

Let me offer some more TRUTHS and some clarification that should have been done a long time ago. Here we go...

CO, a wise person knows that there are 3 sides to every story: hers, his, or in this case, hers again and the truth. So, whatever my “former friends and acquaintances” have told you is one sided and only from their perspective. Obvi. I would like to clarify some things I have kept my mouth shut about for far too long. Here they are...

You don’t have the complete picture, CO. But that’s what happens when you only listen to people who have a vendetta--their hate clouds their judgment and ability to be completely honest. I am not on my “4th or 5th inner circle.” I still have my ORIGINAL Twitter DM chat inner circle I have had for 3 years, it’s just missing a few backstabbing members, with whom I parted ways going on 2 years now. And that’s who you have talked to, not the people who have had my back this whole time. If the “former friends and acquaintances” you talked to were right about me, and I was this horrible and deceitful person, there would be NO ONE left in my inner circle, YET they are still with me all these years later. And as a result of their continued loyalty and real friendship over the last 3 years, I have recently shared things with them that I have not shared with anyone. They know my real name, and they know the identity of my original industry source, among other things. No one else does.

You know who’s not in the group anymore? Someone with whom, at the other members’ pleading, I had to have regular “talks” in DMs because the group members were so tired of her controlling manner in chat (no surprise that she’s one of your favorite people from that group...birds of a feather, I guess). Someone whose stressful job and tough situation with her son started to affect her thinking and made her very paranoid. Despite me showing her concrete proof that negated who she thought I was in real life, she didn’t believe me. Someone whose physical health problems caused her to have mental health problems and become very angry and lash out at me. Someone who was the source for the private Tony pics at the Outlander premiere in April 2015 and whose identity I have continued to keep private, even to my own detriment, yet she has had no problems betraying me. (note: this person is not my Tony family source. That’s someone else). Two individuals who run a well known and popular Outlander fan Twitter account whose identity I have also kept private because they don’t want the fandom to know that they run the account, and that they were in my inner circle. Someone who said she was married and rich and turned out to be totally lying, yet she had no problem badmouthing me behind my back, accusing me of lying about MY identity. And various other women, who although they were allowed to be completely Anonymous in the group (their Twitter names were Anon and in group they did not divulge personal info about themselves) yet somehow I was chastised by group members for not sharing my real identity. In addition, for a short period, I stupidly let into group a former shipper who I KNEW was playing both sides. But I guess the info she could divulge about her ex shipper friends was just too juicy to pass up, so she joined for a bit. And, as I knew would happen, ended up being a huge back stabber, but that was not a surprise. I knew better.

CO, THOSE are the assorted “former friends and acquaintances” who have talked to YOU, to Extreme Shippers, etc about me. Ya think they might be a wee biased and unreliable in retelling their version of the truth? Um, yeah. But despite me KNOWING that some of them have talked shit about me to YOU, to Extreme Shippers, to anyone who would listen and REVEALED some things we all swore we would take to the grave, I “big, bad Purv” have NOT betrayed THEIR confidence. What I’ve written above is the most I have ever shared. And I do feel badly, and somewhat cringe that I’m doing it, even though I’m not revealing anyone’s name, or any identifying details, but this is how far I’m being pushed. CO you have NO idea what you are stepping into. The amount of secrets I have kept private is staggering. Is that something that a the terrible person I’m portrayed to be would do? NO. A terrible person, the minute her ex friends started spilling tea, would have spilled right back, and blasted all their private info too. BUT I didn’t do that. Because I’m not a terrible person. Do you know how much easier my life would have been if I had told everyone who my Tony pic source was and posted all those pics publicly? But I didn’t. Despite being stabbed in the back by my former friends. Do you know how many secrets I could have shared that would have cleared my name in certain situations, and prevented some of the attacks on me? A LOT. But I didn’t, because doing so would have entailed betraying people’s trust and despite all my faults, I wasn’t willing to do that.

So, CO, when you make veiled threats insinuating that my “former friends and acquaintances” “didn’t appreciate being played” and therefore they may continue to betray me, what you don’t realize is THEY PLAYED ME. And they PLAYED YOU. They didn’t tell you the WHOLE TRUTH. They KNOW that even though they are privy to many of my secrets, I ALSO HOLD ALL OF THEIR SECRETS--secrets they didn’t tell you. Once we parted ways I assumed we would be at a detente. If they tried to take me down, they knew they would come with me. I underestimated how dangerously they liked to live, or how emotionally unstable some of them turned out to be. And so they continued to betray me and I SAID NOTHING. But if you or anyone else continues to push me, that will change. Enough is enough. All their secrets and their names I have kept under lock and key, THAT’S my insurance policy, should they, or YOU choose to take this further.

The same goes for Extreme Shippers who also talked to my “former friends and acquaintances,” and like to talk shit about me. It was always understood that there is also a detente there, since ES know that everyone knows most, if not all, their REAL IDENTITIES. The only ES who is Anon is Jess. Any Extreme Shippers dox me, find me, find out my real identity, and try to mess with my RL and all I gotta do is go down the list of NON-ANON ES: Lauren, Julia, Kim, Nipuna, Sherri, Leslie, Deirdre, Trish, Erin, Angie, Stephanie, Marcy, Suzanne, Lynn, Jo, among MANY others. I’m sure fellow ES wouldn’t want to be the catalyst for that. So THAT’S my insurance policy on that side. As for Puffy, I hear she’s still at it with her “investigation” of me and fleecing her minions of their hard earned money, I stopped looking a long time ago. She can keep going, but I hope she knows the minute she finds my real identity and messes with my RL, her bestie, co-owner of her blog, and partner in crime, Amanda E.S.H will be getting a knock on her door from the authorities. THAT’S my insurance policy on that side.

For now you’ve been splashing around in the kiddie pool, CO, you want to get in the deep end with the big girls? Be prepared to SWIM. Again, I suggest you STAND DOWN, Doc. You blog on your blog and leave me alone, and I will blog on my blog and leave you alone. Like a fellow NST said, “no one is drowning kittens here.” Fandom isn’t supposed to be so serious, this is supposed to be FUN. I’ve been playing nice, and I will continue to do so. I am nice, to people who are nice to me. But do not mistake my continued silence all these years for weakness, you push me too far and the bitch I’ve been made out to be, aka “Big bad Purv” WILL come out. Mark me.

PS: Yes, I have people here on Tumblr who I talk to in DM regularly and consider my friends and inner circle here. That group is separate from my original Twitter DM chat, who I still maintain. None of the people in the Twitter group chat overlap with the people in Tumblr DMs. Two totally separate groups. And I appreciate all of you so much. :-*

We done now? *cracks neck, shakes it off* Okay drama session is over, can we go back to some actual fun now? JFC.

#co #contemplatingoutlander #extremeshippers #drama #teaspilled

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singingwordwright · 7 years ago

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Shadowhunters recap - s2ep14 “The Fair Folk” (part 1)

SHADOWHUNTERS Recaps Intro and Masterlist

These recaps may contain spoilers from the books (that may or may not happen in the show.) Proceed at your own risk.

Recap and meta under the cut.

I find it interesting that after his rendezvous with Maia, Jace goes right for something that has such strong associations with his abusive childhood. I’m just having a hard time grasping why, precisely. Given her history as an abuse victim, I highly doubt Maia did anything that would put Jace back in that place.

Is it simply because, as Maia herself pointed out, she and Jace have a lot in common, with their need to make a family connection and the way those connections keeps letting Jace down? Possibly, but unfortunately I think mostly it just comes back to Clary, and the fact that Jace is trying to let go of that (in part with Maia) and the fact that what potential he had with Clary was ruined by Valentine. I think that’s the association between Valentine and Jace’s night with Maia; it’s all part of that same process of trying to let go.

Seriously, Sebastian, you have boundary issues. You’ve been in the Institute for, like, five minutes and you’re sticking your nose in everyone’s business. Cree-py.

I am starting to doubt parts of my Sebastian and Izzy theory, given his interest in Clary. I was really hoping the show wouldn’t go there. I’m still hoping they won’t. I’m hoping that the reason Valentine (and Sebastian) now seem to be urging Jace toward Clary instead of trying to drive a wedge between them is because of their Nephilim supremacist distaste for her dating a Downworlder. Or something.

That theory holds some water especially in light of Sebastian’s manipulation of Clary in s2ep12. He kept emphasizing the loss of her family, her isolation, but only as regards the Shadowhunters she claimed as family. He deliberately couched his words in such a way as to negate the possibility that she would have that same level of family feeling toward Luke or Simon, disregarding them.

If we’re going to follow that line of thought, it reinforces the Sebastian-is-Aldertree theory, because this (trying to detached Shadowhunters from their Downworld associations) is a process that started with Aldertree.

On the rooftop in s2ep10, he (as Aldertree) tries to discourage Alec’s relationship with Magnus.

In s2ep12, he (as Sebastian) tries to manipulate Clary into disregarding the family she has remaining, namely Luke and Simon

In this episode, he tries to steer Jace from thoughts of Maia onto thoughts of Clary

In this episode, he intervenes to drive Raphael away from Izzy

In this episode, he tries to torpedo the Brooklyn Shadow Council Cabinet by getting Luke in trouble for trying to kill Valentine

Given who he’s *ahem* “allied” with in the books—and, it seems, in this episode—the hypocrisy here (assuming I’m right about this pattern) is a little astonishing.

“Authority is a good look on you, Alec.” That’s a fic prompt. Someone needs to write it for me, please and thank you.

“Just wait, in a week, it’ll be someone else.” Unfortunately, they have a point, the Institute leadership has only slightly less turnover than a position teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts.

However, Lindsay and Duncan are racists and possibly homophobes. *sigh* So much for any hopes I had of making them my fave minor characters. Can we get the lovely, sweet-looking bespectacled gentleman with the dreadlocks back and give him some lines? He’ll be my fave, I just know it.

Whenever someone starts to badmouth Alec Lightwood, a wild Izzy appears, perfectly ready and willing to fuck their shit up. Gotta admit, they had that coming, I mean, did they NOT see Izzy standing there glowing with pride for Alec?

Alec’s reaction to Clary grilling Jace about Kaelie is priceless OMG.

This scene means so much. SO MUCH. It really shows how dedicated Alec is here. Most Shadowhunters would probably not go in person to entreat a Downworld faction leader to attend a meeting. But Alec calls on Luke personally and there’s a tremendous amount of respect in that.

I don’t blame Luke for being skeptical of the endeavor, though it does hurt to hear him call it an empty gesture, because I don’t think Alec has given Luke any reason (other than bearing the last name “Lightwood”) to doubt his sincerity.

This scene. Ugh. First of all, this should really go to Simon but I don’t keep a tally for him and since Clary is encouraging (or at least not trying very hard to discourage and giggling at Jace’s effort to discourage) him, we’ll just go with that and make it clear he’s culpable too.

Clary NO/Clary YES episode tally: 1

Book stans are probably going to hate me for this, but here we go:

This scene made no sense.

Simon going to the Seelie realm made no sense.

It was awkwardly shoehorned in because the events with the Seelie queen are such an iconic part of the book canon that there would be a riot if they didn’t work some version of it into the show.

Unfortunately, the execution was ham-handed. Oh, Jace and Clary’s excuse for going was valid enough, but Simon’s excuse for tagging along (and Clary’s indulging him, and Jace’s knuckling under instead of knocking Simon out and leaving him trussed up under the bridge) was just flimsy and basically turned the whole thing into a game of idiot ball. They acted like the 16-year-old characters from the books, not the adult characters of the show.

This was fanservice done very badly indeed. The writing was so focused on getting the characters into that situation that book fans expected and demanded that it didn’t stop to ask if it made sense with regard to either plot or character for them to BE in that situation.

You know how I can tell this was badly executed? Because this scene was probably the clumsiest acting Alberto Rosende has ever done on this show. I’ve been hugely vocal about how he never hits a wrong note, but this whole scene, including his lines and delivery, had me cringing.

If this were one of my novels, my editors would totally call me on it and make me rewrite it until I had something that actually worked. Sorry, Taylor Mallory or whoever was responsible for this decision, this was just really a cheap way to move the plot along in a predetermined direction.

Magnus is just. so. fragile. It breaks my heart. This scene gave me someone I’ve been wanting (Alec calling Magnus his boyfriend) but it was clear that Alec’s request hurt Magnus and I’m trying to pick my way through why.

Because it’s not an unreasonable request, and I think even Magnus gets that. But this is just not a good time to be dealing Magnus ANY emotional blows whatsoever. Even just jostling him emotionally is too much. He needs a big HANDLE WITH CARE warning stamped across his chest.

But what I can’t quite unpack is what precisely about this request is hitting Magnus right in that tender spot? I don’t think he thinks Alec is ashamed of him. And he knows Alec is still trying to figure out how to project the image he wants to project as the head of the Institute. So what is it?

Is it the wording Alec used? “Warlock favoritism” places a sort of weird emphasis on Magnus’s identity as a warlock, and after last week, that’s got to be a touchy subject. I don’t know. I’m missing something, I think. Clearly this bothered Magnus and I need to know why but I’m just not getting it yet. Looking forward to seeing the meta others come up with on it.

I do like that Alec asked, “is that okay?” He knows he’s on unstable ground. He keeps checking in with Magnus and I live for it. Magnus isn’t exactly being forthcoming, however.

Maryse is just so. damn. gorgeous in this episode I kind of want to die.

I really love this scene with Maryse and Alec. I love how Alec is initially wary when he sees her, because I think that’s appropriate. Usually her presence does not herald positive things for him.

Maryse is staying with Robert for the sake of their political careers. Wow. The Lightwoods really are the Kennedy’s. Or perhaps the Clintons.

Alec’s face when she says “the Lightwood name” is just…wow. Considering what he almost gave up to preserve “the Lightwood name” that is just a hugely laden issue there.

Which brings me to something I was mentioning on Facetime with @roseglass in our post-episode debrief last night. In the books, after the events in Idris we’ll be seeing played out later in this season, Robert gets a big promotion, right?

What if, on the show, they have Maryse that promotion instead? How cool would that be?

I guess I’m just not a big enough fan of the books to care about the Seelie court stuff? I just really found it incredibly boring and not worth the iconic status it holds.

And, again, I’m hugely frustrated with the Clace/Climon love triangle drama. I have yet to be satisfied that Clary and Jace actually have the chemistry and connection to justify all this noise. But in this episode I also felt like Simon was being tremendously stupid throughout this episode, and so I really don’t feel all that bad for him here. Considering how much I adore Simon, I think that says a lot about how badly this was handled.

It’s not just Alberto’s performance that feels forced here. Dom’s does, too. He’s posturing and delivering speeches and it’s just clunky. Ugh.

We get to see Izzy being strong again. Yes please! Now let’s see her kick some real ass. Starting with Sebastian’s, and I don’t mean that playful little throw.

Seriously, Sebastian, the skulking around doors thing? Creepy. Knock it off.

Going back to my pet Izzy and Sebastian theory, the fact that they’re getting so much screentime together seems to support it. So…I don’t know?

So that’s what a fire message looks like. I’ve always wondered.

Seriously, Ollie? You needed help with paperwork, so instead of calling Luke you stalked him to some obscure location on the docks? Surely Luke can’t be buying that any more than I am.

I have a new theory about where the show might be taking things. I’ll be doing a separate post about it since I don’t want it to get lost in this huge long post. But I found making the Seelie queen look like a child was a nice touch, particularly as regards Simon.

See, for those of you who haven’t read them, in the books, Maureen was a very different character. She was something like 13 years old, the friend of a cousin of one of Simon’s bandmates or something, and she was a huge fangirl of Simon’s. Obviously they can’t really do on the show what plays out with Maureen in the books, so I think making the Seelie queen a child who is interested in Simon’s music was a nod in that direction.

I think I know what they ARE going to do regarding Simon’s plotline from the books, but again, that’s for another post since this one is already getting too damn long. Again.

“You look good.” I’m no menswear sartorialist, but according to those who are, he doesn’t, really? Apparently SOMEONE needs to take Alec out shopping for better fitting jackets.

Considering the last two times they’ve interacted, it says a lot about Alec’s commitment to this plan of his that he invited Raphael, and a lot about Raphael that he accepted. I almost would have liked a scene where he and Raphael addressed all that, like Alec making a personal plea to Raphael the way he did to Luke. Or something.

Alec is just being downright flirty here AND I AM LIVING.

I’m trying to get a bead on Magnus’s headspace here, though. Is he still stinging from earlier? Is this difficult for him? That chest bump he does as he walks away from Alec, is that because he’s struggling and working to keep himself to together, or because Alec’s so damn cute and he’s so damn smitten that he’s about to lose it?

Either explanation works, and the truth is probably somewhere in between? I don’t know. Magnus you’re giving me too little to work with here. I need more!

But Alec struggling not to smile is my candy.

“The Clave banned all Downworlders from attending.” You raise a very valid point, Luke, and that’s something Maryse needs to hear, but you also forget you were in the woods wolfing out at the time and wouldn’t have been there anyway. Which in no way excuses the Clave’s excluding you, but the inaccuracy grates on my perfectionist little brain.

Great reaction shot from Maryse there, seeing the sort of cruelty attitudes like hers has fostered.

I’m trying to decide how I feel about the potential for a Luke/Maryse ship. On one hand, I can totally see it happening. On the other hand, there’s that whole thing with whether or not Maryse really deserves him and are we going to consider her redemption arc satisfactorily complete to be able to watch that relationship develop without cringing because he’s just the exception to her unredeemed Nephilim supremacist views? (i.e. the old “I can’t be racist, I’m dating a Black man” chestnut.)

On the other hand, in my fic “One Easy Answer” I actually make a point of starting Maryse’s soul-searching with regard to her attitudes toward Downworlders by having her make a connection with just one Downworlder (Madzie) and using that to challenge her dehumanizing views toward all of them. So getting closer to Luke could be part of Maryse’s redemption arc as long as it doesn’t start and end with Luke.

I’m…really not sure if that’s actually okay, or if that plays into problematic tropes. I don’t think that’s my call to make. I look forward to reading what fans of color have to say about that.

Also, I’m calling the ship “Luryse”, and anyone who tries to dub it “Muke” is gonna have to fight me.

Noooo. Izzy, don’t let Sebastian train Max! Ugh, God. *headdesk*

Again, we see a lot of emphasis being placed on Sebastian’s interactions with Izzy. Ugh, is my theory on the money or not. I need to know.

I do like the costume, makeup, and hair design for the faeries, including the Seelie Queen. That’s well done.

“Don’t worry. I’ll bring him back with all his limbs attached.” In my liveblog, I remarked that she didn’t specify “with all his internal organs in place” without thinking how true that would end up being, metaphorically speaking.

Can we take a moment to appreciate the banners there? Alec went to a lot of effort for this.

Magnus, the whole “Mr. Lightwood” thing could rightly be called overcompensating, and of course everyone sees right through it.

“In time, we will be able to reason with the Clave.” Oh, Alec, honey. Do you really believe that?

It’s interesting that when Magnus reveals what happened with the body-swap, he does so only to illustrate how the Institute failed at keeping Valentine imprisoned, but doesn’t reveal how he suffered as a result. It’s also interesting that he is the first one to challenge how Alec’s sincerity is about the “total transparency” offer.

Sia and Bjork are Seelies. I like it.

“We know when to choose the winning side.” That hearkens back to Season 1 the question over Seelie loyalties, whether they’d be siding with Valentine or not. And it’s just one of those plot points that doesn’t make much sense because both Valentine and the queen are contradicting themselves.

Valentine wants all Downworlders dead (and has killed a whole bunch of Seelies now, thanks to the sword) so why would the Seelies side with him. If he’s “the winning side” they’re going to die. Ugh. I hope they make this make more sense.

Sebastian seems to spend more time chatting up Izzy than working security? What’s that about?

“All Shadowhunters look the same to me.” ROFL

And what’s with Raphael and Meliorn being all chatty and buddy-buddy with one another here? Last week, Raphael was trying to convince Izzy that Meliorn was the killer she was searching for and didn’t trust Meliorn when he said he wasn’t. Maybe we should have gotten some acknowledgment of that?

“I always knew she was going to a vampire for venom” The wording there is very telling. Sebastian has been around for, like, two weeks tops. There’s no “always” for him in this situation, there’s not enough history for there to be an “always.”

Unless he has more history here than it appears.

I swear, the Aldertree-is-Sebastian theory is still a valid one.

So. Gorgeous. I cry.

Someone who was liveblogging during the episode referred to this as the “Maryse Lightwood apology tour” and I absolutely agree.

She’s clearly done a lot of soul-searching and is making tremendous strides in being aware of the damage she’s done to her children and the need to make amends for it. And she’s extended that past just her children; she’s reaching out to others she’s harmed as well, namely Luke.

What about her worldview? In the books, Maryse and Robert are described as being nearly as bad as Valentine himself. That’s how bigoted they are. Now, unlike the books, the show seems intent on actually depicting the process of her taking stock of herself and correcting those flaws in her worldview (in the books she was just suddenly sort of okay with Alec dating a warlock, especially once he adopted a warlock baby.) So there’s that, at least.

But Maryse on the show has referred to Downworlders as “creatures.” She’s spoken scathingly of Magnus as a warlock or Downworlder at least twice in his presence (s1ep12 and s2ep08), one of those times in his own home, which he opened to her, mere seconds after he saved her son’s life. And there are at least two or three other occasions where she’s been dismissive of Magnus when he wasn’t there. The emphasis in this episode is on her mending fences with family and people she knows personally.

However, we do also see here some indication that her worldview has undergone an overhaul as well, in her approval of Alec’s idea of a Shadowhunter/Downworld Cabinet and her awareness that her and her husband’s history as Nephilim supremacists could be detrimental in that regard.

This is, frankly, nearly as much as we’ve gotten from Alec with regard to indications of a shift in worldview. Alec circa s1ep03 and s1ep04 honestly wasn’t much better than Maryse in the way he spoke of Downworlders. There was no real indication his worldview had shifted either until around s2ep09, and even then one might justifiably say his concern was seated in the fact that all Downworlders being in danger meant Magnus was in danger and thus it was really just all about Magnus.

Would it be unequal, and probably misogynist, of me to hold Maryse to a higher standard than Alec here. No, I don’t think so. Unlike Alec, Maryse has a history of actual harm and violence toward Downworlders, as part of her past in the Circle. She has participated in Valentine’s “special mission” raids and the murder of Downworlders.

Alec had an attitude he needed to fix. Maryse has an actual history she needs to atone for. The two are not equal, and thus neither should the amount of legwork required to rectify it be.

As such, can we consider her “redemption arc” complete? Honestly, I don’t think we should, but I also think that perhaps the writers now do?

As a white viewer who is cognizant of the white supremacy metaphor being played out with regard to Shadowhunter/Downworlder relations, I feel like I have an obligation not to be too readily forgiving of the Shadowhunters for their violent bigotry and privilege. And I feel like I have an obligation not to call it out when the writers are too forgiving, and give the characters a free pass on something that really shouldn’t be handwaved.

On the other hand, this show has too damn many secondary and tertiary characters for them to devote too much screentime to the sort of prolonged redemption arc someone with Maryse’s history really requires before she can be considered one of the good guys. There just isn’t time for it; the show has too many balls in the air and really needs to drop a few of them. So I think as long as we continue to see evidence in the form of hints of Maryse’s improved worldview, realistically this is about as good as we can expect it to get.

So, this is an important moment for Maryse, and for Luke, and I really hate that Luke can’t be mentally with her in this time and place, really be a part of this dialogue, because this is an apology a LOT of people owe Luke. He deserves it and yet he’s not really in a place to be able to appreciate it right now.

“We should never have let Simon come.” Well, gee, Clary, maybe you should have done a little less giggling and a little more helping Jace knock him over the head and leave him trussed up beneath the bridge, then.

I like that Clary tried to kiss Simon first. That she even expected it to work, even if she had fears that it wouldn’t. I think that says a lot about how she wasn’t just using Simon as a stand-in for Jace.

We all knew this point was going to come, and as much as I hate Simon being hurt, and as much as I hate love triangles, and as much as I still don’t really buy into the supposed Clary/Jace connection, I don’t think the show could have handled it any better without entirely abandoning the source material.

It’s interesting, Ruelle’s music is sort of being used in the opposite way it was used in Season 1. In Season 1, it was a sort of anthem for relationships beginning. In this episode, it’s used as a dirge for dying relationships.

This scene with Maryse and Izzy just kills me. KILLS. ME. Especially when Izzy calls her “Mama.” It’s probably the first time this show has ever made me tear up.

I like that for all her antagonism with Maryse, and all her adoration of Robert, Izzy is firmly on Maryse’s side here. She just flat-out says “Leave him.” She doesn’t try to excuse Robert’s actions or blame it on Maryse. That’s so important, and it flips the script on how this sort of a scenario would typically play out, I think.

And Maryse doesn’t feel betrayed by the fact that Izzy keeps this from her. Instead, she sympathizes with Izzy for being in that position and having to make that choice. Wow. Just…WOW.

This show does this very well; it has female characters act in ways we’re not accustomed to seeing female characters act. It portrays Lydia as generous and sympathetic when Alec chooses to be honest about who he is, rather than as a bitter jilted woman. It portrays Izzy and Clary as supportive of each other rather than mean-girl rivals. And this moment here with Maryse and Izzy, it just has them both doing the opposite of what I think most shows would have them do, and I love it.

And Maryse specifically making mention of Alec fighting for love, after the way she has been dismissive of Magnus and Alec and their relationship. Wow. WOW.

I had a bit of a cringy “eh” moment when Maryse said “this is all my fault” because of course that’s a typical abuser tactic, making it about themselves, making their victim try to reassure them and take the blame. But it doesn’t appear that’s what Maryse is trying to do here. She’s trying to take an accurate and honest accounting of the way she’s hurt her children and influenced their choices, so again, the scene doesn’t play out the way it so often would.

Oooh it would be so satisfying to see Valentine die this way. I had really initially hoped that it might be Alec who was feeding Luke the information, trying to sneak him and the rest of the Downworld some justice under the table, and that Sebastian’s interference 86ed that plan. Alas, no. Alec’s on the up-and-up here, and I can’t really blame him for anything except arriving on the scene 15 seconds too soon.

So this mole can hack security cameras and delete footage. Gee. That doesn’t sound like something just anyone can do. In fact, it sounds an awful lot like stuff that would require some high-level clearance. Like, maybe by someone who used to actually run the Institute?

I love this moment of dismay as Alec does the exact opposite of what Sebastian intended when he set Luke up. He had meant to increase shadow-world tensions and Alec just fucked that plan right over.

Alec just keeps getting in his way, both as Aldertree and now as Sebastian.

This just breaks my heart. Despite his inconsistent motivations with regards to things like Simon, I did actually buy into Raphael’s affection for Izzy, and I would love to see him have a happy relationship, especially now that he’s canonically asexual. I’m not at all invested in Sizzy (like Clace, it strikes me as one of those ships that really will exist only because book fans expect it, not because it feels valid for the characters as they develop on the show.) So I haven’t been hugely opposed to Rizzy as most of the fandom has been, assuming it could be removed from their addictions and approached in a healthy way.

But that’s the rub, isn’t it? Can it be? (for that matter, can Izzy be in a health relationship with Simon?) Probably not, unfortunately. As someone attending AA/NA meetings, Izzy should probably be aware of that. Proposing a relationship with Raphael (or Simon) is as dangerous as a recovering heroin addict living in a household with another user.

Still, however true, it hurts to hear Sebastian’s poisonous words coming out of Raphael’s mouth.

I want good things for Raphael. I also want good things for Maia, who is going to be forgotten about now that Clace is on the rise. My faves keep getting screwed over here and I’m not a fan of it.

Another note on the Ruelle music: this song, “Hold Your Breath” is VERY similar to her song “Take It All,” to the point where the two of them keep blending in my head.

I applaud Clary for not giving up here, for trying to fight for this relationship. I do believe that she loves Simon, and again I really see no reason outside pro forma adherence to book canon that she and Jace are a more appropriate couple.

I hate that Izzy doesn’t get to confide in anyone here. Can we please not fall back into the pattern of Izzy being everyone’s Agony Aunt?

Seriously, Ollie, what is your story? And why am I supposed to care? There is already so much going on with this show, this feels like an unnecessary addition (though I appreciate the fact that she’s a lesbian.) There better be a solid payoff if they’re going to devote screentime to this. Right now I’m not seeing what it’s going to be, and I don’t want them to half-ass it.

The broken finger was a nice touch.

The hammer. Oh, God, the hammer. Clear confirmation that Sebastian was the mole, for anyone who had any doubts, or who hasn’t read the books.

The diary is interesting, though, and when the shot backs away you see there’s a whole series of them on the desk. Wonder what that’s about.

The real Sebastian Verlac, I assume?

I’m starting to revamp my theory that s2ep19 is going be where Sebastian does a certain Dastardly Deed. It could be as early the next episode.

First, because of the presence of that hammer.

Second, because of the mention of Sebastian helping Izzy train Max.

Third, because it looks like we might me Aline Penhallow in the next episode.

See in the books, Sebastian Verlac is the Penhallow cousin, and he gets involved with everything because he’s visiting them at the same time as the Lightwoods were staying with them in Idris.

If Aline comes to New York and encounters “Sebastian” there, and he’s NOT deliberately posing as her cousin, that’s going to give the whole game away.

July 10 is gonna hurt on more than just the Malec front, I think.

Clary NO/Clary YES Series Total (so far): 18

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Huntingbird for the ship ask

lol these two… (send me a ship)

who hogs the duvet

Hunter. He moves around a lot more when he sleeps than Bobbi does. Plus, what can he say, he’s a fan of not freezing his ass off.

who texts/rings to check how their day is going

Bobbi sometimes contacts Hunter to see if he’s alive, but Hunter has always been the more forward of the two when it comes to general expressions of love. Of course they often end up bickering and being annoyed (sometimes pretend, sometimes less pretend) but at least they know everything’s normal that way :)

who’s the most creative when it comes to gifts

Bobbi. Hunter claims he’s tried but she’s too picky, to which Bobbi rolls her eyes, but yes, she is better than him at creative & impressive gifts. She listens to him more than he thinks she does.

who gets up first in the morning

Bobbi, because she believes in routine and exercise. Hunter can function in the morning when necessary, heck he’s a trained army man, but if he’s not being called to task by a drill sergeant the morning can pretty much get bent most of the time.

who suggests new things in bed

Hm, I think they have pretty even footing on this one. They’ve both lived some pretty adventurous lifestyles that might incline them to try ~new things~. I do feel like Bobbi initiates a lot of it though; I feel like she likes to challenge herself and experiment (ba dum tsh) while Hunter’s more of the “I’ll try anything once” kinda guy

who cries at movies

Neither of them are particularly comfortable with doing it and I think they can both shut themselves off if they’re getting too emotional, but if they’re feeling particularly safe and raw at the same time I think both or either of them could have a bit of a cry. They’ve been through some shit those two.

who gives unprompted massages

Hunter. He has nearly had his hand broken a couple of times so now he tries to make sure they’re not too unprompted, but he knows Bob is a stressed little bean and doesn’t like to make a big deal out of it, so he does what he can.

who fusses over the other when they’re sick

Bobbi. She likes the bragging rights of claiming that Hunter’s a whiny baby, but also, it’s something she ‘knows how to do’ where she feels she struggles with other displays of affection.

who gets jealous easiest

Ooh, that’s interesting. I think they both get jealous in different ways. Hunter knows their relationship has been unstable in the past so if Bobbi’s flirting/being flirted with or being secretive he can get a bit angry and insecure. Meanwhile, Bobbi knows she’s not as emotionally available as she feels like she should be, so if Hunter’s getting close to someone she sometimes struggles with that. I think Hunter’s comes out as more visibly jealous though.

who has the most embarrassing taste in music

Bobbi, probably? Hunter probably has a stable favourite collection of like, classic rock or something, while Bobbi’s music tastes are all over the place. That’s not to say she’s embarassed by it, but Hunter definitely is. Although they do both enjoy picking super cringeworthy songs for karaoke and cringing it up.

who collects something unusual

Neither of them collect much, but Hunter has a few pieces of religious iconography that nobody expects him to have.

who takes the longest to get ready

Bobbi. Lookin that fine while also being 500% ready to kick ass at all times takes some mad skill

who is the most tidy and organised

Bobbi. Neither of them have that much stuff, but Bobbi is also a scientist whose career has depended on her organisational skills. Hunter can make a bed in like 1 minute but in terms of general life skills, Bobbi.

who gets most excited about the holidays

Hunter. He’s always been a big fan of relaxing, and much better at it than Bobbi, so the holidays actually mean something to him whereas she carries her stress around so she doesn’t have as much fun sometimes.

who is the big spoon/little spoon

Bobbi’s usually the big spoon, bc she’s a squillion ft tall, but sometimes if she’s having a super hard time, Hunter’s the big spoon. He usually takes it seriously and everyone’s super soft and it’s great.

who gets most competitive when playing games and/or sports

BOBBI. OH MY GOD. I mean they both have a pretty strong competitive streak but Hunter also has major heart-eyes which can make him vulnerable to being distracted. Bobbi is on top of her game and she will kick whosever’s ass is necessary

who starts the most arguments

Hunter. Bobbi’s more of an “ugh, whatever” kind of person whereas Hunter has a strong sense of justice, a loud voice, and a sense of irritability like nobody’s business.

who suggests that they buy a pet

Hunter, and it’s a dog, and it’s a PTSD therapy dog, bc therapy dogs are awesome and they could totally both use one. As could their squad of pstd suffering friends.

what couple traditions they have

They always ‘celebrate’ their birthdays, even if they’re not together. If they’re especially pissed at each other, or on a mission, they may not actually contact the other person, but they always do a little something. On the other hand, they don’t celebrate anniversaries, bc their relationship is a mess and it’s impossible to keep track of.

Plus ofc “don’t die out there.”

what tv shows they watch together

Pretty much anything, it depends what they’re in the mood for. They’re a big fan of criticising stuff they watch though. And I don’t think Bobbi’s a huge fan of football/soccer.

what other couple they hang out with

FitzSimmons probably.

how they spend time together as a couple

Mostly trying not to die? They’re also big fans of sex, arguments (including the good kind, coz those do exist), cooking together and complaining about/false commentating/etc. movies.

who made the first move

Hmmmm Bobbi probably?

who brings flowers home

Hunter, mostly so that he can make “honey I’m home” jokes even when they live in super dangerous or otherwise non-domestic scenarios like say a secret military base underground

who is the best cook

Neither of them are amazing, they’re both pretty functional, but Hunter can make a few dishes really well, so I’d go with him.

#huntingbird #hunter #bobbi morse #thehuntingbirdnetwork #aos headcanons #ask me stuff #unlessimwrongwhichyouknowimnot #long post

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