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I have an odd TWW question for you: Do you think Amy and Donna could ever be friends or at least have a good working relationship? I don’t know how much they’d be working together in the Santos Administration, but I’m assuming they’d have to interact from time to time.
My honest opinion? Yeah, they could. In canon, they’re both good at their jobs. Donna holds herself back professionally sticking close to Josh, and Amy was not great AT relationships, to be honest…but they’re both amazing at what they do in the White House and on the campaign trail.
Okay, actually we see that Amy’s not so good at deferring to a President, but I think that will be less of an issue in the Santos Administration because she knows going in that her involvement is wanted TO make waves and have debates, which is her forte.
Also, it’s not like we ever saw them get into actual fights when they had to interact before. Donna wasn’t pleased watching Amy come and go from Josh’s orbit, it wasn’t a cycle she liked witnessing, but she held her tongue and tried not to let it affect her direct relationship with Josh (see: “my man! you came back to me!” after his Russia trip, while he’s dating Amy…because their banter remained the same).
And Amy heard rumors about Josh and Donna before she even considered dating him, but she talked to her on the phone like an adult and works directly with Donna during Commencement. I love that episode and seeing the actresses together because they’re both amazing and there’s so many layers underneath their bland professional rhetoric before it dives into the personal. Even then Donna barely snaps at her, answering a direct question because Amy pushes her into it.
And I think it’s important to note that–that it’s Amy who’s always the one crossing those lines, both with Josh and Donna. She’s the one with impulse control issues (gosh I love her, I find that painfully relatable and human) who throws water balloons after pretending she isn’t interested, who kisses Josh first instead of the other way around, who pokes her faves with sticks and leaves a dead fish and instigates a very public article, who isn’t willing to see that Donna is annoyed and then just let it go.
By season 7, though, she’s grown up enough I think to see the difference between what she likes and wants (fights, passion, competition) and what she needs to be healthy and happy (civilization, quiet moments, someone who doesn’t need to race her anywhere). Post-canon, I don’t know whether Amy’s relationship with the wood sculptor is gonna last though. I think it’s a lot easier to know what’s better for her than actually live with it…especially given how uncomfortable she clearly is when she describes it to Josh.
As a restless soul myself, I’d understand if Amy ended up imploding that relationship eventually rather than being able to make it work the way Josh was able to get past his issues long enough to make Donna a priority in S7 and fly away to work things out. Amelia Gardner might just not be the settling down type, even if she finds someone more grounding, the way Josh needed someone like Donna who could meet him on both the political-junkie and eat-a-real-meal-you-idiot levels of companionship.
In my personal opinion, by “Requiem,” Amy is over Josh and isn’t just trying to set him up for some weird ulterior motive. I think she honestly sees their past as passed. Which means finding out about him and Donna once they’re all in the Santos administration will likely (again in my opinion) be hilarious to her. Like, she tried to get him to admit his feelings before the reelection campaign! How clueless he was.
I doubt it’ll bother her much by then, because I think her interactions throughout S3 and 4 are infused with a constant awareness that they guy she’s with has feelings for his assistant but refuses to admit them to himself. Amy was willing to date him anyway, but always knew. So it would be weird if post-canon she was bothered by it ‘coming out’ when she was always kind of side-eyeing them and waiting.
Whatever Amy’s destiny is, I see no romantic future with her and Josh. And I like to think that he and Donna stay together until they die. Therefore, she and Donna, talented political pros that they are, should be able to work briskly and well together, like the “Commencement” scenes we might have gotten if Amy wasn’t back in Josh’s romantic orbit during that time. If you take the romantic tension out of that thread, the women are just great coworkers for a minute. It’s awesome.
And if you look at the early stages of Josh and Amy, Amy and Donna have friend potential to me. “Dead Irish Women” is great, with the booze and girltalk in the residence and Amy being the one to remind Josh that Donna needs him. Donna talking to Josh about his girlfriend being a loon on his day off is not awkward like you’d expect given her feelings. It’s just kind of cute; she’s happy Amy makes him happy (while that lasts).
My main takeaway from this is, just think of what kind of amazing exchanges and dynamics we could have had on TWW if the show believed more women can support each other and coexist beyond their love of men. But that’s a seriously other rant tbh.
tl; dr Yes, I think they have that post-canon potential, because I think they could have had that potential IN canon if the writing of the women of TWW were more complex than it is.
#donnatella moss#amy gardner#tww#the west wing#tww meta#meta#also this isn't an odd question <3#i love the idea of amy and donna as friends under different circumstances#mine
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Saturday Spectacular #6
Happy Saturday!!! So this is me thanking awesome fanfic writers for their amazing work and all the time they put into their fics. ♥️ I want to recommend spectacular fanfic stories I read this week! ♥️ They are posted in the order I read them. All posts will be tagged #saturday spectacular fic rec
Some Things Are Meant To Be by @pimsiepim | Arrow | Completed
Summary: Three years ago, Oliver went on a cruise on the Gambit and never came back, leaving Felicity devastated. She forced herself to move on with her life, trying to forget that the love they had shared was one she'd never get to live again. Except Oliver didn't die on that boat. But no matter how much he wants to, he knows he can't come back. Too many things happened, and the only way to keep his loved ones safe is to stay as far away from them as possible. It all changes when Felicity starts questioning the circumstances of the accident that took him away from her... ***The sequel to His Girl Wednesday*** You don't have to read HGW to understand this story, but it might fill in a few blanks ;)
Semper Fidelis by @oliversmuse | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Oliver Queen is a member of the Bravo Squad, a team that specializes in search and rescue, covert infantry and translating foreign documents. He is known as one of the best and even though he is one of the youngest recruits he advances quickly. While serving he meets Lance Corporal Felicity Smoak, a young woman with skills in hand to hand combat. Despite the fact they butt heads they fall in love and soon start to talk about a future together. However, when her plane disappears on a mission in China and she is presumed dead, Bravo Squad searches frantically for her, only to find her plane and her bloody dog tags. Five years later Oliver runs into “Megan” at a coffee shop near that gym he has been running with his friends. She has lost her memory from the plane accident but has had dreams of Oliver and the Bravo Squad. With the help of his friends and team mates, can he help her reclaim her past and fall for him once again?
and we’re somehow caught up in a web of lies by inlovewithimpossibility | Arrow | WIP
Summary: After their encounter with the Count and Moira’s release from prison, Thanksgiving is upon the residents of Starling City but when an article arises in the gossip magazines that throws both Oliver and Felicity under scrutiny, the two of them somehow find themselves caught up in the most elaborate lie they’ve told. What was supposed to be a relaxing week at the Queen cabin in New Hampshire for Oliver and a week celebrating Hanukkah and Thanksgiving alone for Felicity turns into a week at the cabin of acting, the Queen women and bubbling not-so-platonic feelings.
Did I Forget to Mention That My Dad is a Supervillain? by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: When Felicity told Oliver about her father, she wasn’t lying per se. She wasn’t completely honest either. It’s just that ‘my dad left us’ sounded better than the truth.
Or: A Series of one shots in which Felicity’s dad is a supervillain and we see how Oliver and the team finds out.
Airplanes, Coffee and Deadlines by @hope-for-olicity | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Felicity begins working at a national newspaper where she has always dreamed of working. On her first day, she meets a very interesting photojournalist. The two will eventually work together but sparks fly immediately.
Alpha by @oliversmuse | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Oliver Queen was a powerful vampire that was captured by a group experimenting on hybrids. Turned into a hybrid that is half vampire and half wolf he is strong, fast and deadly. While in captivity he meets Dr. Felicity Smoak a hermatologist who is called in to monitor his feedings. All Oliver wants is to be free, away from the experiments and being in a cage, and strangely he feels he can trust Dr. Smoak. There is also an unspoken attraction between them that is forbidden. Can he convince her to set him free or will her attraction to him tempt her to keep him close?
Providence by @so-caffeinated | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Will Queen has struggled in silence in the year since he was shot. But when a shadowy crime lord known as Domino targets the only woman Will’s ever truly loved, fate forces him to confront his demons in ways he never could have imagined… Whether he wants to or not. Amelia Prescott has fought to take control of her life since learning two years ago that her personal and professional worlds were manipulated by others. But nothing can prepare her for just how hard she’ll have to fight to set her own course, especially when her heart belongs to a damaged man and a crime lord threatens her every professional move… And her life. Destiny brings them together, but as chaos reigns and personal demons haunt Will and Amelia both, it may also threaten to tear them apart.
(i want to) save that light by @callistawolf | Arrow | WIP
Summary: What if one little thing changed in the history of Arrow? What if, instead of going to Laurel’s apartment after discovering the extent of Merlyn’s plans for the Glades, Oliver stayed at the foundry and talked to Felicity instead? This series of short vignettes explores some of the ripple-effect changes that could take place throughout the next season as a result of this one, fortuitous change.
The What If Harassment Alternative by portlandborn | Brooklyn Nine-Nine | WIP
Summary: What would have happened to Peraltiago And our intrepid detectives, if Amy had reported her mentor captains ugly behaviors?
Closure by @oneofthosecrazygirls-fics | Arrow | One-shot
Summary: Laurel and Oliver get some closure.This fic is part of the What Should’ve Been ‘verse. It can be read as it’s own standalone fic if you want, but it makes more sense within the context of the ‘verse as a whole.**NOT FOR LAURIVER FANS**
Pieces of Always by @so-caffeinated and @dust2dust34 | Arrow | One-shot collection
Summary: Life continues after Forever is Composed of Nows.Ongoing non-linear collection of family moments for the Queens. You do not need to have read FiCoN to enjoy this, but it will spoil the end.
Our Version of Events by @machawicket and @geneeste | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Action star Ollie Queen is trying to clean up his image and land parts that require him to do more than appear shirtless while fighting stuntmen. Pop star Felicity Smoak wants to be seen as an adult in time for the release of her new, grittier album. And talent manager John Diggle’s got an idea about what coverage of Oliver and Felicity’s brand new (and totally fake) romance could do for them both.
The Road Less Traveled by @oneofthosecrazygirls-fics | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Canon divergence/fix-it AU. Everything that happened in the series up through 4x11 happens as it did in the show and this fic diverges from there. Direct sequel to “Swear This One You’ll Save” and “Have Your Cake (And Eat It Too)” so make sure you read those first before reading this one. This fic is part of the What Should’ve Been ‘verse.
Let's escape (And just get away) by fangirlforeverything | Arrow | WIP
Summary: The night of the Undertaking Felicity and Oliver both needed to forget what had happened. Now two months later, Oliver is back and Felicity is pregnant.Rewrite of season 2.
I wear high heels (she wears sneakers) by @mogirl97 | Supergirl | WIP
Summary: “Lena. It’s not just about football.” Kara waved her hands around emphatically, “It’s about school spirit and hanging out with your friends—“ Lena didn’t want to bring up the fact that she didn’t have any friends to hang out with. “—and watching me obliterate a bunch of guys’ egos and going out for celebratory Big Belly Burger afterwards.” ~A Supercorp High School AU~
Artemis by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: When the Queen’s Gambit sank, two people were stranded on Lian Yu. Five years later, four came back.
Daughter of the Demon by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: What if in 1988 while traveling through Las Vegas Ra’s al Ghul bumps into a nice waitress named Donna Smoak and they have one-night stand together? A little bundle of joy named Felicity Smoak is the result. In 2014, the Demon Head becomes aware of his youngest daughter’s existence.
The Ravager by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Slade Wilson’s plan for revenge against Oliver took time, money and no shortage of lives to pull together. His plan didn’t anticipate Felicity Smoak. How will his plan change now that his lost-lost daughter is working with the very man he’s trying to destroy?
Felicity of Themiscyra by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Years ago, Donna Smoak left the island of Themiscyra and her sister Queen Hippolyta behind to live in man’s world. She never told Felicity the truth about where she came from. As a result of the Undertaking, Felicity discovers some of her Amazonian abilities and makes an interesting new friend: Diana Prince.
The Daughter That Was Left by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Before the Gambit, Oliver Queen met QC intern Felicity Smoak. When he boarded the Gambit, he left something behind. Now, five long years later someone is waiting for him.
The Roommate by GameOfOlicity | Arrow | WIP
Summary: AU. Where Oliver is a cute nerdy guy going to MIT and finds himself having a beautiful blonde as his roommate. Oliver and Felicity become really good friends. Oliver is soon going to find out how hard it is not to get attached to his blonde friend.
I Scream But No Sound Comes out by @laxit21 | Arrow | WIP
Summary: When Oliver returns from Lian Yu after five years, he comes back
Fifty-Three Minutes by @realityisoverrated-fic | Arrow | One-shot
Summary: Between Queen Consolidated and the Justice League, Oliver, Felicity, and Tommy haven't been alone together in over a month. They have fifty-three minutes before other responsibilities have them separating again.
The Microchip Chronicles by CSM | Arrow | WIP
Summary: Post 713. Follows the next nine months of Felicity’s pregnancy.
different. What happened there damaged more than just his body. How will his friends and family deal with this new Oliver?
“Time for a story” Drabble Series by @smkkbert | Arrow | WIP
Summary: This fic shows Olicity and their life as a (married) couple with family. Although Olicity (and their kids) are the protagonists, other characters of Arrow and Flash make appearances.It started as a drabble series, but developed more and more into a full domestic AU.
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