#i know that people have strong feelings about Dara but unfortunately i think he's an incredibly cool character
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Empire of Gold - S.A. Chakraborty (Daevabad Trilogy #3)
3.75/5 - fitting character resolutions; pacing is a little iffy still; Nahri my bestest friend ever
For the sake of keeping think to the point, I've organized my thoughts as follows:
Female Leads
Character arcs (& the marid plotline)
Pacing
Female Leads
I really do have to heap praise on Chakraborty for the women in this book. Everyone, from Nahri to Manizheh to Hatset to Zaynab is so wonderfully fleshed out. They're put in situations that highlight their depth of character and the differences between them - anyone who thinks that Nahri would flourish as the next Hatset is deluding themselves.
Nahri is who I would really like to focus on though - as much as I love her character, she's all over the place in this novel. One moment, she's ready to abandon the Daevas in Daevabad, the next she's somehow willing to sleep with Ali, and the next she's willingly swearing off ever leaving Daevabad and seeing Cairo again. It just really feels like a confusing spin from one decision to the next and they don't ever seem to align with one another. The truest moment of her character came when she fears that she only ever builds things to watch them be destroyed by other people.
Character Arcs
While I have some complaints here, by and large the character arcs feel natural. Of course Muntadhir and Zaynab survive (if not thrive) through the siege. Of course Manizheh goes balls to the wall crazy by the end, dabbling in ifrit magic.
The biggest commitment (and biggest overall payout) comes in the form of Dara. Having him continue to believe in the Nahid, past the point of no return and once again washing his hands in blood was good actually! Great storytelling! I don't think anyone breaks indoctrination on their own easily, and he's no exception. My own big critique is that this plotline takes forever to move - realistically I would've been happier if we didn't start seeing into Daevabad until after the halfway point of the book.
Also, Dara's plotline starts to feel like trauma porn after about halfway through the novel. I was glad that his ending gave him both the opportunity for happiness and the opportunity to atone for his many sins.
On to the marid plotline - While I admit that I wasn't angry about it, it does take up a significant amount of page time and I wouldn't say it gives the biggest payoff for that investment. This further alienates Ali from the other Daevas, but that doesn't particularly resolve any of his internal conflicts. We've fully put own the thread of his religious fanaticism without picking it back up again and honestly, we spend so much time with Ali feeling guilty that we never really get to see Nahri process her emotions.
Speaking of Nahri, I did like that the ending of the novel leaves it very open-ended as to Ali and Nahri's relationship. Personally, I interpret it as two close friends. They tried kissing once (haven't we all fucked a friend?) and that can be done now thank you!
Pacing
Unlike the second book, which had a clearly enforced timeline that made no sense, this one has no discernible timeline. It only barely makes sense. But beyond that, this book feels like it comes in neatly packaged sections. First we go to Cairo for 200 pages. Then we journey down the Nile for 200 pages. Then we go to Ta Ntry for 200 pages. Then we conclude the novel in 100 pages. It's just very rigid and leaves the action feeling a bit like it stops and starts.
The ending was also something of a letdown. I was glad to have Dara kill Manizheh (after everything he went through, he deserved it) but the whole thing goes from politicking to all-out magical siege that devolves into the start of happy representative government within 50 pages . It was all just a bit rushed
All this to say, I did enjoy the book! It was a fun romp and I enjoyed seeing our characters again! But I wasn't as impressed with it as I was with the first book, that's for sure.
#i know that people have strong feelings about Dara but unfortunately i think he's an incredibly cool character#also kinda ironic that someone with such intense time blindness is saying your timeline is bad ... but thats just how my brain works :')#empire of gold#sa chakraborty#book review#fantasy#high fantasy#the daevabad trilogy#nahri e nahid#alizayd al qahtani#darayavahoush e afshin
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Disability and rehabilitation pt. 2
So my last post about Jaime Lannister on this issue got a bit long, so I split them up. This is going to be the Wheel of Time one. And should not be long, because the Wheel of Time character I was thinking of is not nearly as significant to the series as Jaime is to his.Â
Itâs Siuan. I know lots of people donât see a redemption arc there, because a lot of them donât think she needs one.  All over the fandom, I see people raving about Siuan and how sheâs so strong and lost so much and she keeps going. Okay. Thatâs true. But not all virtues are exclusive to good people. Courage does not make you a good person, for instance. Arguably, Sammael is pretty courageous. And neither does perseverance or tenacity. You have to apply those traits to something more than self-preservation or personal gain. Â
What I think happens with Siuan is that we get too small a sample of her actions in the beginning of the series, and find out more about her later, except the imposition of her disability rehabilitates her in the readersâ eyes, which in turn affects the hindsight view of the early books.
At the outset of the story, Siuan has been Amyrlin for about a decade, and despite the hagiography from her friends, she was not a very good one. Siuan is not a good leader, though she can be a very good advisor and would probably make a pretty competent bureaucrat. She is unquestionably intelligent with a good analytical mind, but that does not make her a leader. Off-setting these strengths is that she lacks vision. She works much better under a leader who has ideas she can work to bring to fruition. Unfortunately, she has an inordinate amount of pride as well. And when she rises far and fast, she ends up lacking any counter-balancing wisdom. She gets named Amyrlin at a very young age as a compromise candidate, but rather than walk softly, she takes it and runs, by all accounts being forceful in her manner, and controlling as well. In reaction to the discover of the Horn of Valere, she goes to Fal Dara herself, wreaking havoc on the surrounding environment to expedite her journey, only to bring the Black Ajah, including Liandrin and Alviarin, into the fortress which expedites the theft of the Horn.
The odd thing about Siuanâs carelessness in this regard is that she has known since shortly after getting the shawl about the Black Ajah, and worse, she herself surmised that they are aware of the Dragonâs rebirth and are actively taking measures to get rid of him. In spite of this, she is unable to give up her need to be in control, even when her position and her alienation of the Ajahs means she canât control her personnel. Once the Black Ajah comes relatively into the open and she has to deal with it, she lets her paranoia take the wheel and, not being able to trust any Aes Sedai, nor to accept that there is nothing she can do, she hands over the investigation to three of the newest initiates of the Tower. She remains obsessed with the Black Ajah and ends up with a tunnel vision focus, to the exclusion of properly managing Tower politics.Â
Her absurd solution to the Black Ajah problem, of sending Accepted after them, helps bring her down. While in the case of sending Elayne into danger, she has provided herself with plausible deniability, at least her own satisfaction, she cannot control everyoneâs interest in the Daughter-heir, including her brothers and Elaida. Siuan herself articulated the prestige Elaida has gained from bringing Elayne to the Tower, and the Red sisterâs interest in Andor has cost her the Amyrlin Seat Siuan is certain Elaida wanted desperately. The flimsy excuses Siuan finds sufficient to foist off a mere queen who has historically been devoted to the Tower donât hold up for her sons who are present all the time and are more loyal to their sister than the Aes Sedai, much less her own rival who is far more knowledgeable about Aes Sedai affairs.Â
It is her discontent with the situation that inspires Elaida to begin the legwork to depose Siuan. It is his hostility to Siuan for being kept at armâs length that motivates Gawyn to help foil her alliesâ counter-coup.
And this is also characteristic of Siuan, that she focuses on the top-down approach to problems. Â When she has a plan to unify Murandy under a strong king, and she anticipates her candidateâs habit of raiding into Andor could endanger the plan, she decides to keep Andor from fighting him. Her approach is to go to Morgase and force her to keep her troops away from the area of his depredations, to minimize the risk to him. Siuan grew up in a tyrannical nation that oppresses its people and then she moved to the hierarchy-obsessed White Tower, so to her way of thinking, all you have to do is give orders to your lessers, and thatâs the end of it. She makes absolutely no accommodation to Morgase, does nothing to get her to buy in to Siuanâs program, offers her nothing that we know of in exchange for compelling her to commit an egregious dereliction of her duty to her subjects.
For all that she lays the blame for Morgaseâs anger toward the Tower on Elayne leaving unexpectedly, maybe she would have accepted Elayneâs absence from Tar Valon, if she was not also dealing with the biggest headache of her reign, brought on by Siuanâs high-handed interference in her rule. The riots and demonstrations against Morgase and her relationship to Elaida and Tar Valon are blamed on the Whitecloaks stirring them up, but since when are they that competent? Â Eamon Valda was the one left in command in Caemlyn after Geofram Bornhald was recalled to Amador. Â Straight-arrow Galad runs rings around Valda in the PR game and weâre really supposed to believe heâs responsible for swaying public opinion in the capital against a beloved and long-reigning queen? But even if Bornhald got the ball rolling in the brief time he could have been in Caemlyn, there had to be some discontent for the Children to work off of, and Morgase abandoning her borders after a meeting with the Amyrlin Seat is the best reason we have to go off of. Â And of course, the Towerâs standard MO means she would not have bothered to walk back her command and let Morgase resume defending her borders after Siuanâs candidate is killed by an ordinary farmer who objected to being robbed, no matter how central the thief was to Aes Sedai plans.
Itâs a major weakness of Siuan, that she thinks all she has to do is give orders. Â She really makes no allowance for differences of opinion, expecting those on her side to stay on her side and to accept her commands. Â She does not expect compelling Morgase to have domestic blowback. She does not expect her handling of Elayne to anger her family or to turn Elaida, who has a clearly demonstrated long-term interest in Elayne and Andor, against her. Â She does not expect her high-handed manner to incite sisters against her, or her secretive behavior to give credence to the arguments for deposing her, even though she knew being deposed was a possibility.
And part of that secrecy was kind of unnecessary. Siuan was the one who determined that the Black Ajah knew the Dragon was Reborn. Â Once she was Amyrlin, there was no further reason for secrecy, since the only people who didnât know about it were the good guys. Whatâs more, it was, like the Murandy operation, not just wrong, but futile. Â The secrecy depended on no one being able to trace her to Rand, which in turn counted on people not remembering how close she had once been to the one sister whoâd been with Rand at every turn. Even after Verin pointed out how obvious the whole setup was to anyone who had been paying attention, she still tried to maintain secrecy. Â And you canât fault the Hallâs annoyance at being kept in the dark about the imminent apocalypse or the hubris of an Amyrlin a fifth the age of many of them presuming to manage Tarmon Gaidon and the Dragon Reborn all by herself. Â
And the problem here is that all this stuff is backstory. Some of it we donât learn until after she is deposed, and some of it we only learn the full ramifications of once we have a better grounding in the political realities of the setting. Â When Siuan is brought down in The Shadow Rising, our perspective is from her and Min. In Siuanâs mind, of course, sheâs the put-upon hero, and her frustrations are reasonable feelings, certainly not an exhibition of entitled expectation that things will go her way. When Elaida reveals that the Hall has voted her out of office, Siuanâs retort is basically âHow dare you use politics against me!â Â Her indignation that Elaida chose a favorable ground for fighting, that she chose to acquire allies rather than taking on Siuan alone in a personal confrontation where Siuan has all the advantage is either so astoundingly naĂŻve as to disqualify her from ever holding office or a breathtaking piece of hypocrisy given the extent to which Siuan stretches her authority and the rules which put her above other sisters. Not to mention the tactics she will later coach Egwene to employ against people who are her ideological allies. Â But without the hindsight we get from seeing a greater pattern of Siuanâs behavior as well as a deeper look at the politics of the series, she seems like a frank and well-intentioned leader who has been brought down by treachery. Â In Minâs chapters, we only have Siuanâs presentation of herself and her position, as Min, like the reader, lacks much personal experience of the Amyrlin to see beyond it. Â And Siuan frames her actions as helping Rand. Â Which, yeah, she thinks she is doing, but just because she thinks it does not make it true. Â Iâm pretty sure Minâs actions in Tar Valon would have been radically different if she could have been a fly on the wall in Fal Dara when Siuan told Rand that his purpose for existing is to be her tool. Â
And then Siuan gets stilled, hence the disability, and redemption in the eyes of those readers who were rubbed the wrong way by her attitude. The journey to Salidar has her one of three women traveling alone and vulnerable to violence and danger, not to mention ending up facing a trial for stuff for which she and her friends were not responsible, and then she gets to Salidar and runs smack into the prejudice of Aes Sedai against those who are not. Her old friends treat her as a lesser being, her qualities that have nothing to do with her channeling, and which are thus unaffected by her disability, are suddenly dismissed and she is treated like some ignorant hick. Â All of this makes her the sympathetic underdog, and from the readerâs simplistic binary view of âElaida, bad: anti-Elaida, good,â Siuan looks good and the reluctance of the Aes Sedai to go to war against the Tower is inexcusable, so her deceptions and manipulations are seen to be for a good cause.
But what casual readers miss is that Siuan is still making the same mistakes. She still thinks, despite her awful track record to date that itâs right and good that she control the Towerâs agenda, as she plans to put a puppet on the Amyrlin Seat to be controlled by a council she herself can manipulate. What I have never seen anyone question is, if she thought Egwene was ignorant enough to be manipulated and controlled by the council and second-hand by her, why on earth did Siuan give her a blanket writ of authority and send her off to hunt Black sisters with only a blocked wilder to manage her? Also, Egweneâs state of mind, courtesy of her Seanchan captivity, evident in her actions outside of Tar Valon and her intractability in the short time she was in the Tower, made that a particularly bad choice.
Furthermore, the meta argument in favor of Salidar over Elaida is that Elaida will try to control Rand, and while the sisters in Salidar have a similar mindset, the protagonists of that arc (Nynaeve, Elayne, Egwene, and incredibly, Siuan) believe otherwise and will prevent it. Â And yet, to get her foot in the door, and access to power in Salidar, Siuan trades knowledge Randâs whereabouts to the ruling council. Â Their response was to send the incredibly arrogant Kiruna and Bera to find Rand, with their only apparent selection criterion being the number of warders the pair could bring on a trip to the Aiel Waste. Â Later on, she manipulates the choice of which of Randâs friends to send with the embassy, sending Min whom she believes to be more under her thumb and willing to spy on Rand for her, instead of Elayne, which compounds Elayneâs political problems when she goes to take the throne.
Again, Siuanâs intentions get buried by the fact that she throws in with Egwene and honestly does her best to help, but it was not really her choice, or only her choice insofar as she decided to accept it as her own idea instead of fighting a futile battle. What actually happened was that she let a wilder with little regard for the Tower or Siuan personally see through her decoy tactic, because she still has not learned that when she pretends to not be collaborating with a long-time BFF, someone is going to realize the truth. Â As a result, Nynaeve has both insight into Siuanâs activities in Salidar, and the willingness to use that knowledge against her, as well as having incurred a debt beyond repayment by restoring her channeling ability. Siuan cannot say ânoâ to Nynaeve, and Elayne is politically shrewd enough that sheâll spot attempts to wiggle around her which Nynaeve wonât. Â So Siuanâs chances of manipulating or controlling Egwene are pretty much nil with Nynaeve and Elayne at her back. Â Her only hope for influence is to throw herself entirely into Egweneâs cause and reap the rewards. Â Not unlike Asmodean with Rand or the Forsaken in general with the Dark One.
And what about her work with Egwene? While itâs true she provided indispensable political tutelage and strategy, itâs basically the inverse of her own tenure as Amyrlin, where her supposedly good agenda was derailed by her political failure. Â In this case, the excellent performance she coaches Egwene to in the political sphere belies the fact that they have no good agenda. Â For one thing, they completely ignore the outside world that both of them presume the Tower has the right to order and control. Â When a course of action is proposed in the Hall regarding the Black Tower, a topic of not insignificant interest to Aes Sedai (especially Aes Sedai following a woman who publicly told a group of people concerned about the presence of male channelers in their lands âWe got this, mind your own businessâ), Egwene sits mute through the session of the Hall, because neither her own views nor Siuanâs teaching account for a policy for the Black Tower.
The sole agenda for which Siuan and Egwene are engaging in all these political machinations among the rebels is a military campaign against the White Tower, which is utterly wrong, and probably an unjust war on its own. Egwene will even later repudiate the whole campaign and denounce the very act of marching against the White Tower and besieging Tar ValonâŠafter she has had some time away from Siuan, and Siuanâs own actions have soured Egwene on her counsel.  So either Siuan primed and aimed Egwene to plan and execute a military rebellion against the Amyrlin Seat, or else Egwene had the idea on her own and Siuan blithely went along with it and actively abetted the plan instead of counseling against it or trying to moderate it.Â
What it very much looks like is that Siuan leaned into revenge more than fixing a problem. Â Starting a war within the White Tower cannot be a good way to reuniting it, as people note several times over the course of the conflict when the issue of pushing the fight to an extreme comes up, but it is a better way to make sure that Elaida goes down. Â After all, if they are making war on Elaida personally, the end result of the war has to be Elaidaâs downfall, and a declared war against her makes it much less likely Elaida will retain power under a negotiated settlement. Â And that, more than anything is Siuanâs agenda. Â Just as Elaida is really out for her own glorification when she thinks about saving the Tower, Siuanâs first priority is taking out Elaida.
If saving the Tower was the priority that could still be done within the system.  At the point when Siuan arrives in Salidar and a negotiated settlement is still on the table for the dissenters gathered there, Elaida has not been in a position to do much damage.  What she has begun doing is driving apart the coalition that brought her to the Amyrlin Seat.  If the rebels got some concessions in return for their coming back, there would be no external threat to the Tower to rally support to Elaida when her actions become more extreme under Alviarinâs direction.  There would be an opposition party in the Hall to vote against her more outrageous actions. Once out of the Hall, Elaida canât keep holding sittings with only her own faction present, and she has been wearing away that faction with her own Siuan-like behavior.
As it is, in the same book where Siuan reaches Salidar, Elaida has promulgated a blanket amnesty to any sisters who return, so the future issue of the punishments she decrees, such as abolishing the Blue Ajah, is not a factor. Those only become so when Siuan lies about Elaida and the Red Ajah, and begins spreading the story that they created false dragons. Â And knowing itâs a lie, knowing the Towerâs tradition of covering for fellow sisters and presenting a united front to the world, of not airing their dirty laundry to outsiders, can you blame Elaida? The funny thing is, Siuan herself was outraged when Rand repeated the same story to her. How did she expect Elaida to react? Â Just as she did. Â Siuan provoked Elaida into the same indignant reaction she herself felt, for exactly the aim of getting her to lash out, and force the rebels to stay the course out of fear. And as with much of Siuanâs actions in Salidar, you have to say âSmart move. But how does it help?â Is provoking the Amyrlin Seat to acts of tyranny conducive to unifying humanity on the verge of Tarmon Gaidon? Is maintaining the division between sisters to the benefit of the Tower? Clearly not. The only one to benefit is someone who cares much less about those issues than she does about toppling from power the woman who bested her at Tower politics and whose teaching style she resents from when she was a novice and Accepted.
Other lovely advice Siuan gives Egwene is to murder Nicola and Areina for not being protagonists. Because pretty much everything Nicola pulls to try to get ahead is very similar to Egwene. And you canât even say sheâs wrong. Sheâs almost 25 years old. She had a job and a fiancĂ©. This is a grown woman by any standard you care to name, and if she is willing to take the risks of being forced, she has the right to make that call for herself. Especially with Tarmon Gaidon just around the corner.  A considerably better option than sending away girls with enough strength to reach the shawl, just because they are too boy-crazy to make good Aes Sedai, as Siuan did with Else Grinwell.  Iâm pretty sure Vandeneâs assessment the book before she did so was that the Tower would need every novice capable of lighting a candle, as long as they werenât too interested in good-looking men, right?
But because of mere political inconvenience, Siuan wants to murder Nicola, removing one of the strongest living initiates in the Tower, not to mention one whoâs pretty clever, and capable of outmaneuvering sisters, on top of the sheer evil of the notion. And ethically, by assuming all authority over a noviceâs actions and choices, by infantilizing her as the Tower does, treating them as literal children, the Tower has a responsibility to protect them as if they were children in truth. Â Murdering Nicola is as profound a betrayal of the White Towerâs duties as the crime she slanders Elaida for committing. Â
And speaking of slander, in a world where oaths are taken seriously, where they are sufficient grounds to alter the sentence of a convicted criminal, Siuan swore an oath never to tell a lie. And promptly broke it the moment she was physically capable of doing so. She did not put conditions on the Oaths when she swore them, there was no expiration date, no proviso that she would only live up to them so long as she held a certain status. Â She not only broke her oath; she did so to abuse othersâ trust because they thought that it still held.
As an example of her teaching Egwene how to be Amyrlin, not just what to do, there is the discussion after Moghedian escapes. Â Egwene, in a moment of panic, commits an egregious violation of tradecraft to meet Siuan and Leane for no real practical gain, and demands they conduct an investigation that will further endanger their covers. Â Ostensibly, the subject of the investigation is Egweneâs runaway servant, which just might cause people to start wondering at the attention the issue is getting. And there is nothing to be gained by it either. As Siuan points out, none of them know what the Forsaken look like and there is nothing that could be done with anything they do learn about whoever released Moghedian. Egwene slaps down Siuan, demanding to know if the mere reassurance she would get from having slightly more knowledge than she currently does is too much to ask. But it kind of is, considering how many stand to suffer if Egwene goes down. Â If Egwene can reprimand Nynaeve & Elayne for endangering her (and by extension, her whole factionâs) political position by a bargain with the Sea Folk that is nonetheless a positive good for the world, how much more does she deserve a reprimand for something equally dangerous to that position with nothing to be gained by the risk? Okay, but sheâs still learning. Â Whose job is it to set her straight on that? Â Siuanâs. And what does Siuan tell her? That she was right to flip out on Siuan, that no one may be impertinent to the Amyrlin Seat!
Before Siuan started filling Egweneâs head with nonsense like that, Egwene understood the need for people to treat rulers and leaders like normal human beings. That is was important for her friends to treat her like their friend, instead of their office. That rulers needed to be told the truth, even if they did not like it. We see in the same book where Siuan tells Egwene not to let anyone be rude to her, Cadsuane being deliberately rude to tell Rand things he needs to hear, because heâs not going to listen to people being deferential and obsequious. Leane tried respect on coming into the tent with âMother, this is unwise,â and Egwneâs response is IDGaF. Â She needs to hear when sheâs doing something stupid, but Siuan doubles down on the Amyrlin being above normal human interaction, not least because sheâs defending her own track record of arrogance and entitlement.
Recall that when Anaiya brought up her behavior as Amyrlin when she first arrived in Salidar, stating that she abused her authority and forced people to do what she wanted, Siuanâs reaction is to scoff that the Amyrlin canât treat every sister like a buddy. Â Except thatâs not what Anaiya was saying at all. Siuan was acting like respect and basic courtesy are special favors to close friends. Â Her reaction is more like a child using a semantic digression rather than reflect on what they did wrong. Why does she think people listened to Elaida as they did not to all the other opponents of Amyrlins who wanted to depose one? Either all but two other Amyrlins who managed to not get deposed DID treat people like girlhood pals, or else Siuanâs behavior was considerably worse than merely failing to be besties.
Just about the only positive thing we know Siuan did as Amyrlin was create the title âMistress of the Kitchensâ. I suppose you could count raising the Wondergirls to Accepted, but thatâs more of a Doylist good idea. Â From the point of view of the White Tower and forming girls into proper Aes Sedai it was a tragic blunder, and Siuan had no intention of undermining the process or protecting the girls from being conditioned into obedient sisters. She just thought that her commands took precedence over 3,000 yearsâ institutional experience in indoctrination.
Siuan Sanche is a rude, petulant bully, who would destroy the White Tower or the authority of the Amyrlin Seat if she cannot hold them herself. She does a poor job teaching Egwene, who reaches her greatest heights after getting away from her teaching, and blames the Siuan-led rescue in defiance of her standing orders for her inability to reunite the Tower without a fight. Upon her triumph, Egwene publicly denounces and repudiates the course of action to which Siuan counseled her. When she held power herself, Siuan presided over a world going to the dogs, and engendered resentment against the Tower and its interference in othersâ affairs. Her control-freak mentality and utter lack of subtlety or diplomacy gave the Shadow opportunities to steal the Horn of Valere and break the White Tower, and they were far and away the biggest fans of her efforts to exacerbate and prolong the division.
But to all-too-many WoT fans, Siuan is an amazing person for going on and keeping up the fight in spite of all she lost. Yes. Those are great qualities.  And Eamon Valda is a blademaster, with all the discipline, dedication and perseverance that achievement entails.  What matters most about skills and personal qualities is the use to which you put them. You donât get a pass for putting skills to bad use, for striving for unworthy goals, just because youâve suddenly lost an ability you once took for granted. Siuan learns nothing from her loss, other than perhaps some lessons about practical politics that might have helped her avoid the loss in the first place.  She continues barreling down her path in the assumption that she knows best and she has the right to do whatever she can get away with because she knows best. All her disability really does is rehabilitate her in the eyes of the fandom, and cover over her many, many mistakes and the reasons why the Pattern removed her from power as its own champion was rising to fix the mess that was in part her doing.
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HSMTMTS 1x10 Review
Act 2 was a great finale that capped off a great season though somewhat marred by Disney censorship. Letâs dig in!
Finally Ricky and Nini have found their way back to each other. Sweet callback to Ricky lighting Nini up with his phone as Nini does the same. Breaking Free was great though I had to keep pausing during the EJ to Ricky transition because it was so cringey. Ricky and Nini really do have the best chemistry on the show and it shines through this ep. Joshua did a great job improvising Rickyââs confession to Nini as did Olivia reacting to it. Tim mentioned in an interview that originally Ricky was supposed to tell Nini that he thinks he kinda you knows in a callback to the premiere but on set he realized that it was too cheesy and decided to let Joshua come up with a confession based on memories of his and Oliviaâs real life friendship. That was certainly the steamiest kiss weâve yet seen on Disney + but it was well earned
 It speaks well of Tim that he recognized that his own writing wasnât good enough and that he trusted his actors to take charge. It also goes to show how much of a difference it makes having the showrunner actually on set in Salt Lake, whether that was Tim or Disneyâs decision. Itâs a sharp contrast with Andi Mack where Terri the showrunner was based in LA and only rarely visited set while Michelle Manning was the producer in charge in Salt Lake, a split which I think hurt the show in some ways
That rainbow heart sign from the Mathew-Smith family was lovely. Itâs great to see Sebâs family of Utah farmers being so supportive. This also confirms that Seb is out to his family, and since Miss Jenn seemed to greet Carlosâ father near the beginning of the ep itâs likely that Carlos is also out to his family
A historic first for Disney with a Seblos cheek kiss. Though of course while itâs progress it still isnât equality. Itâs not so much the Rini kisses that really drives home the inequality since theyâre the main couple and were always going to kiss in the finale but rather itâs the Redlyn kiss. Itâs not like Redlyn has gotten any real development nor did their story line really need a kiss so early. They got to kiss simply because theyâre straight. That being said, it does once more show that the limits are looser on Disney +, we never would have gotten even a Tyrus cheek kiss on Disney Channel
Unfortunately Disney for the second ep this season released promotional photos of Seblos scenes that were cut from the episode itself. Itâs not queerbaiting in the traditional sense but it is baiting the audience as they know that a lot of people are very invested in Seblos and seeing that rep on screen and Disney is willing to use that to draw in viewers while cutting the actual on screen rep down. Whatâs worse is that if it wasnât for Disney itself letting us know that these scenes existed weâd never know that Seblos scenes were being cut. And of course, itâs a waste of time and money for the show to film these scenes only for them to be cut. A big complaint with Seblos this season has been their lack of development but that seems to be less on the writers who are in fact giving them more scenes then on Disney which is cutting them down to the bare minimum
Itâs all shameless triangulation on Disneyâs part, trying to be progressive but not so progressive as to alienate conservatives. Itâs not like any homophobes are still watching the show after Seblos got together. So far it seems like the Disney censorship on HSMTMTS is coming mainly in post production like it was in Andi Mack S2 with the cut bash mitzvah scene and the edited look back which is awful but is still better than the much heavier censorship we saw in Andi Mack S3 that was coming in pre-production when things like Cyrus being able to talk about his feelings for TJ and vice versa were just never being written. Hopefully Seb being a main character in S2 means that the censorship lessens at least a bit or at the very least stays in the post production stage
In an interview done early on in the season, Tim talked about sometimes taking giant leaps and some times taking small steps in terms of the representation on the show and know we have a much better sense of what that means in practice. There was the giant leap of Seblos getting together at Homecoming and the small step of them kissing on the cheek. Afaik Tim hasnât addressed the Seblos cheek kiss which is probably for the best and if he does I hope he has the good grace to not lie to the audience about his ability to have gotten an actual Seblos kiss approved. I do think weâll eventually see a Seblos kiss though I think the earliest that could happen would be the S2 finale
Very telling that Ashlyn assumes EJ is behind Rickyâs exit and not a good look on EJâs part to not tell Miss Jenn at least that Ricky left. . Good for him though for playing to lose and giving up the role of Troy to help Nini and Ricky. Confirmation that he paid for Ginaâs ticket and we got our first Hell Yeah on the show. I donât like it but it does seem like that scene was set up for Portwell in S2; at the very least it seems like Gina may have started to feel something for EJ
Pour one out for those poor audience members having to sit through that trainwreck of a second act. You know youâre really in trouble when you have to send your choreographer out there as an understudy
I loved Big Redâs little xylophone during the intermissionÂ
Nice to see Nini and Gina end on a friendly, supportive note. Hopefully that continues next season
Kudos to Olivia and Matt for really selling the high school theatre actors barely keeping it together on stage aspect of the performance. Nini and EJ have so little chemistry that itâs almost hard to remember that they were dating for several months
Mr Darbusâ office set looked great. Nice touch to have Miss Jenn mouthing the lyrics to Wondering off stage
Lynne really sucks. Canât say Iâd miss her if we donât see her in S2
Will be interesting to see how Miss Jenn and Mr. Mazzara save their jobs
Realistically I donât think Niniâs performance was strong enough to earn a spot at YAC; someone like Gina or Seb would have been a much more credible choice imo. Nice touch to have the Dean leave through one door and Ricky the other
Now that the season is done itâs hard to see any traces of whatever more mature direction former showrunner Oliver Goldstick wanted to go in. The whole season seems very coherent and consistent in terms of tone. We did learn from Tim and Olivia that her song All I Want was a re-shoot so maybe it was a replacement for a song or scene that was pushing the envelope more than Tim and Disney wanted
One thing that may or may not be connected is that EJâs panic attacks from the original character breakdown made no appearance this season and who knows if weâll ever seen EJ having panic attacks or suffering from anxiety. Disney seemingly had no trouble showing Jonahâs panic attacks on Andi Mack which is doubtless where HSMTMTS took the idea from but itâs also true that Jonahâs anxiety story line was abandoned halfway through S3 and though itâs likely just the result of bad writing it canât be ruled out that Disney got cold feet over focusing on mental health in both Andi Mack and HSMTMTS
Looking Ahead:
One benefit of this review being so late is that we now know the spring muscial! Beauty and the Beast which seems to suggest that all future musicals will be Disney owned properties
Tim also confirmed that they will still be incorporating songs from HSM 2 and 3 into the show which will certainly help pad out the 16 extra songs theyâll be doing in S2. Having 12 eps will be a big help to the show; 10 eps just wasnât enough to properly deal with all the characters and plots
HSMTMTS really turned out to be a delight and while I think S2 will be as well there are definitely potential issues ahead that will need to be deftly dealt with. Nini either going away to YAC and then coming back to SLC or just not going to YAC is probably going to be wrapped up in an unsatisfying manner. In all honesty this kind of plot would have worked much better if it had been saved for Niniâs senior year
Whatever plan Ashlyn is cooking up to keep Gina in SLC is also probably going to be poorly done as thereâs no reason Ginaâs mother would willingly leave her daughter in another state
EJ is either leaving the show after he graduates or theyâre going to have to contrive some way to keep him around East High in future seasons
Seb now being a main will be interesting, if nothing else to see what Disneyâs limits are. Tim has hinted at their being drama for Seblos in S2 and I hope that it serves to develop them and is not just a means to keep them apart so there can be two gay mains but no gay relationship. As an aside Tim revealed that Joe originally auditioned for EJ which is wild; itâs funny that both Joshua Rush and Joe Serafini auditioned for EJ when neither of them had any realistic chance of being cast
I have no strong feelings on the cast list for Beauty and the Beast though I do think itâs likely that either Kourtney or Gina end up playing Belle as I think having a black girl play Belle is just the type of subversion that would appeal to Tim. Miss Jenn did say that she wanted Kourtney to come speak to her over break and while Gina is a bigger character Iâm not sure if Sofiaâs singing is quite good enough to carry the lead in the musical while I think Daraâs definitely isÂ
Iâd say itâs very likely EJ ends up either as the beast or as Gaston since heâs in what should be his last semester. And if Gina also gets a big role it would make it easier to play with Portwell in S2. If EJ is the beast I could see Seb getting Gaston in another subversion of expectations. Regardless I think with Seb now being a main and with Joe having one of the strongest voices in the cast that heâll play an important role
Until next season Wildcats
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The Fever King
The Fever King is the first book in a YA sci-fi/dystopian duology written by Victoria Lee. I have a lot of very strong mixed feelings on this book, so buckle up; this will be a long one.Â
In the near distant future, the United States has been withered down to several smaller nations, courtesy of a magic virus that has wiped out most of the population. The virus in the form of a fever, burns its victims to a husk, and those who survive it are called witchings, and they develop supernatural abilities. A 100 years after the original outbreak, we follow Noam Alvarez, a 16 year old boy who lives in the only witching state of Carolina. Heâs the son of undocumented migrants, and when an outbreak in a refugee camp kills his father and all of his neighbours, he survives and gains technopathy: the ability to control electronic devices. He gets recruited into Level IV to train for the military, under the direct supervision of the man who created Carolina: Calix Lehrer. I think that long intro, might have already clued you into some of this bookâs problems. In case you couldnât tell, this book is a debut, and it really feels like it. Victoria Lee is a talented author, with a good grip on style and explores interesting ideas. This bookâs hook bought me, and her characters (the few that are developed at least) are genuinely intriguing. This book is also highly political, and itâs subject matter is absolutely topical and relevant for todayâs issues. If you are someone young, who hasnât read a lot of political science and wants to get a primer into stuff like communism, revolutions and migrant issues, then I think this book would serve as a great primer. However, there are issues. The plot and the themes are just all over the place; there are also significant issues with the pacing and worldbuilding, and even the characters end up confused. The writing is solid, and I think with some more time and experience, I could really love Leeâs work, but as is, this book is a very much, an ambitious mess. Writing: Letâs start with some positives. Lee has a writing style thatâs quite unique, and not something I have read before. She writes in third person, but the writing is very stream of consciousness. Lotâs of scenes, especially at the start read like we are following Noamâs thought pattern; he will interrupt himself, or not explain what is happening fully, because he himself hasnât processed it yet. Since heâs the PoV character, he ends up feeling quite unreliable, which is a rarity in YA, and his inability to be unbiased and objective, actually factors into the plot, because we flip flop on what is happening and who we trust just as he does, and we operate on faulty or partial information, because thatâs what he knows, or sometimes doesnât notice the discrepancies. Unfortunately, this has the adverse effect of making this book read extremely young. Lee explores a lot of themes here, but the main one revolves around freedom, revolution and what and how much you are willing to sacrifice to achieve your goal. Both Noam and Lehrer do unspeakable things in the name of justice and freedom, and there is a fine line between fighting for a cause and becoming a monster. I would like to say that this theme is handled with finesse, but Noam has a very black and white view of the world, and has the patience of a teenage boy; as such he ends up making a lot of really stupid decisions, and refusing to acknowledge a lot of horrible things. Thereâs also a lot of discussion of communism, dictatorships, and leadership, all of it feels like a middle grade school report. The absolute worst scene for me was when Noam and Lehrer discuss the phrase âdictatorship of the proletariatâ; I was cringing so hard as the book ground to a halt to give me a history and philosophy lesson on what that phrase means. Itâs so over the top and blunt, and I really didnât care for it. Tone: If the book was written entirely like this, I think I wouldâve liked it more; I am simply not the target audience. I am too old and have been through enough classes, discussions, debates and even real world protests and changes of government for a middle grade discussion on communism to appeal to me. But the book mixes these really simplistic juvenile themes, and a character who read like a 14-15 year old, with brutal realities of what revolution is actually like, and it made for such an uneven reading experience. There are numerous scenes of people dying in executions, from disease, there is discussion of rape, child abuse, assassinations and violations of the body and mind. Itâs at once a very âbabyâs first guide to revolutionâ, while at the same time attempting to have a very nuanced and complex villain/hero dynamic. The sexual politics of this book especially made me uncomfortable; the scenes between Noam and Lehrer especially felt like they belonged in a much more mature book than this one. Worldbuilding: This is where most of my problems with the book stem from. This is a book that has the very difficult job of setting up this world, explaining how the situation got so dire, introduce the superpowers, the characters, the status quo, and it has to do all of that for 2 separate timelines. I would like to say Lee succeeded but I am still very confused. Letâs start with the positives. I really wasnât sure why it was necessary that the virus was magic; it could have been any kind of sci-fi virus that changes the morphology and biology of the survivors in order to give them superpowers. The fact that the virus was a form of magical fever that burns up its victims reminded me so much of Osaron from the Shades of Magic series, that I half expected the infected to have black veins and black eyes. What I enjoyed about the superpower aspect was that the powers were tied to something that the person already knew or had a connection to. For example, Noam is very good with computers and coding already, so his presenting power is technopathy, meaning he already knows exactly how computers, electricity, magnetism and algorithms work, so his power is just a physical extension of that. This was the most original and interesting aspect of the setting, and I liked all the bits we got with Noam doing math and physics and why it was necessary for him to learn all of that, before he could really master his powers. The early scenes where Lehrer teaches him and Dara on how to use their powers were great, and though the scene with the coin was lifted straight out of the X-men films, I loved it. The refugees, the refugee camps, the post apocalyptic setting and the politics were all things I have read before. Thereâs so many elements borrowed from Divergent, The Maze Runner, The Hunger Games and The Darkest Mind; the ending especially felt exactly like the ending of The Darkest Mind. I donât even need to know that Lee is an avid X-men reader to tell you exactly where she got the estetic for the setting, the apocalypse, the anti-witchery suits, the suppression, the anti-witching vaccine and especially, especially Lehrerâs character. This is where the problems start. First off, the two timelines. Everything to do with the Lehrer brothers forming Carolina, the virus outbreak, the dissolution of the United States and the virus was incredibly confusing, underdeveloped, and lifted straight out of the X-men films. Itâs like Lee took bits and pieces of all of them and pulled them all together: Lehrer being tortured in the mutant, I mean witching camps was a mix of X-2 and Origins, Lehrer redirecting the nuclear warhead back into the ocean was from First Class, Lehrer being questioned by the telepath was from X-2, and Carolina having closed its borders and being the only safe haven for withings was from the Genosha/San Francisco storylines in the comics. The reason I point all of this out was because it was so blatant, and so badly patched together that I didnât feel like Lee had anything to say about these things; she just took bits and pieces of these various X-men storylines, which for better or worse were actually complete and devoted time and development to their implementation. Here, I wasnât sure why some states were states, like Carolina, while others, like Atlanta were cities. Europe and Canada are mentioned, but no mention of Asia or Africa. Is every other place in the world unaffected? Or did they all execute every single witching and infected person? How come Carolina is supposed to be this heaven when their technology hasnât advanced past 2019, and yet they are still somehow independent? Everything to do with Lehrer was likewise confusing. He was King, but he then abdicated and Sacha was democratically elected, and yet the state he ruled was a communist monarchy? Why did he abdicate? If everything is infected, how did the Carolina army get to Atlanta to besiege them? And then we get to the migrants. This part was the worst, because it suffered so hard from the black and white morality. The migrants come from Atlanta which is suffering horrible outbreaks of the virus. Even though the Carolinas are willing to let the refugees in, they do everything in their power to keep them secluded, undocumented and completely isolated. Look, Iâm not going to pretend that migrants are treated well in most places; they are not. But usually there are bigger issues at hand, not just bigotry. A lot of refugees have problems with learning the local language, adapting to local climate, customs, food. There are cultural clashes between the local and the refugees, religious differences. That simply doesnât translate here; if the virus isnât genetic, and itâs detectable, than what good would expending resources to keep the refugees secluded do? They speak the language, there arenât different customs or religion, the only difference is the city they come from. Carolina and Atlanta are not a good allegory for the current migrant crisis, and I canât believe Iâm siding with Brennan but they really are guests in someone elseâs homeland. They canât just start a revolution and overthrow the government, which is what Noam wants. The way Noam acts this whole book is a righteous rage thatâs just ill conceived. Yes, heâs being manipulated, but he acts like no one other than refugees have a hard life, like Ames or Dara or any of the other characters couldnât possibly have problems. Whatâs more is heâs never called out on this behavior and heâs never corrected or shown to be wrong, which is just insincere at best and blatantly untrue at worst. Pacing: Like the tone, the pacing was all-over the place. This book is at once overcrowded with information, trying to set up so much, and accomplish even more, while at the same time painfully slow and uneventful. There are pages upon pages of exposition and pontificating on irrelevant philosophical questions, while the actual action is so mediocre. The pacing reminded me of my least favorite part of The Hunger Games; the first part in Mockingjay where Katniss just spends pages upon pages training and locked inside the District 13 compound. The same is true here; once Noam is inside Level IV, almost nothing of interest happens until the very end, with the exception of his detour during the protest. We are supposed to be invested in the character development, but there really are only 2 relationships, and both are⊠iffy. Characters: There are literary, only 3 characters of interest in this book; none of the supporting cast was interesting in any way, and the 3 other students might as well have not been in the book. So letâs talk about Dara. Dara was the most frustrating character I have read in a while. The best way I can describe him is, heâs Rhy from Shades of Magic; he is a beautiful, deeply damaged character, who is promiscuous, seductive, and completely there to serve as a love interest/victim for Noam. Dara is the second most powerful character in this book, and yet he spends 90% of it drunk, high, locked in a room, or in some sort of peril. There is so much abuse throw his way that I wondered for a second if I accidentally skipped back to The Raven King. As a character by himself, he wasnât particularly interesting, until the very end of the book, where we get several reveals that have no time to be digested or explored, because the book is over. His relationship with Noam was even more frustrating. He acts appropriately, like a teenager, but heâs also supposed to be older and more clever than Noam, which makes the situation they are put in even dumber. So much of this book could have been avoided if they would just TALK to each other, and even the reveal doesnât hide how much this whole plot relies on contrivance. Like ok, I will absolutely buy that Dara would fall in love with Noam, but he still violated Noamâs trust, privacy and very core by doing what he did to him for over a year. I also donât often comment on sex scenes in YA, but I really, really disliked the sex in this book. Like I said, Noah is so naive and reads so young, that I kept forgetting he was 16, not like 14, and even still Dara is at least 18, when they do it, so it was just immensely uncomfortable to read. That scene also had the absolute worst line I have read this year which was, I shit you not âDara was born to lie on mussed bedsheets with wet hair spilling like an ink stain onto white pillows, flush cheekedâ pg.250 I am feeling iffy just writing it down right now, knowing the context of this character! Speaking of, letâs talk about Lehrer. First, letâs all acknowledge that Lehrer IS Magneto. He is a revolutionary who has a very loose sense of morals/regard for human life, he isnât above violent and destructive means, he is incredibly good at inspiring and manipulating people into joining him, he is Jewish, and he is powerful. I canât say anything more about him without MAJOR SPOILERS, so if you havenât read this, skip to the end. From the very first scene Lehrer appeared, I thought the way he acts around Noam was strange. There is a constant, underlying sense of predation in all of his scenes; the scenes are written as a type of seduction, and though he is never explicitly sexual with Noam, it is very clear that his intentions and feelings for Noam arenât just paternal. Lehrer is praying on Noam, and Noam constantly flip flops between feeling attracted to Lehrer and considering him a mentor, father like figure. This was beyond uncomfortable to read; watching Noam be manipulated for 300 pages was hard enough, without constantly being worried that Lehrer would escalate their relationship. And then we find out that we were right all along, and Lehrer really is a predator; the bruises and marks Dara has are not from Ames, they are from Lehrer. Lehrer, who is his legal guardian, who has raised him like a son. I wanted to vomit. Not only that, but we also learn that Lehrerâs true power is persuasion: itâs similar to Alison from The Umbrella Academyâs power in that he can influence what people who are around him do, and he uses that power both on Dara and Noam. This made the ending incredibly confusing; did Noam forget what Dara told him about Lehrer releasing the virus? Does he only remember certain things but not that? Does he not remember the part where Dara told him Lehrer has been assaulting him for years? If he doesnât, then why did Noam rescue Dara at the end? If he does, then why does he believe Lehrer when he says he never used his powers on Noam, when he clearly blatantly did? This reveal made the book incredibly fascinating to me, but also, I wanted to throw up. I still feel ill writing this review. I will give Lee all the credit; she got me hooked. I want to see what happens to Noam, I want to see what exactly his relationship with Lehrer will be now that Dara is gone, what happened to Wolf (did he turn into a dog? Fullmetal Alchemist style?) Conclusion: This is an ambitious but confusing book. Itâs lead 3 characters, and the dynamics between them are the real draw, but the worldbuilding and plot leave a lot to be desired. I would recommend it, but if you are at all disturbed by abuse, implied rape, and predatory behavior⊠maybe read the X-men instead.
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Discussion Time!
So, Iâm talking to my friend on the phone about YG Entertainment and I decided to stir the pot because Iâm messy. Iâm sure you guys have heard that YG is planning on releasing a boy group and a girl group. So I wanted to kinda discuss/rant about YG Entertainment. Feel free to join inâcomment, send me a message or ask with responses and opinions. Iâm not here to fight with you guys. This is just to generate discussion.
The question I have is this:
Why are we still including YG as one of the top 3 labels when the only groups to have [more] consistent promotions is 2NE1 and BigBang?Â
2NE1 and BigBang were pretty much the money-makers for YG. He ignored 2NE1 for two years. They put out the Crush album in 2014 and we didnât really hear from them. They did a bit of solo activities but nothing major aside from CLâs âHello Bitches.â I had gotten into 2NE1 shortly after that album came out and awaited another comeback. Unfortunately, I never got it. All blackjacks got was false hope and the girlsâ disbandment. 2NE1 definitely deserved better, especially since a lot of girl groups look at them as a model. It kinda upsets me that YG still makes money off of them, even after disbandment. BigBang, fortunately, hasnât been disbanded but all of the members will have to enlist at some point and might not be able to all be in one place at one time for a while. Taeyang and GD have both had releases this year as well as tours in the U.S. They are pretty much the only two that I know have been a little busy this year. On top of that, with T.O.Pâs marijuana scandal, the harsh reality is that things with BigBang canât be the same again even after heâs done with his military service.
As of right now, all YG has is Winner, iKON, and Blackpink. And heâs fucking up with them by not paying these groups enough attention to make it in the industry. K-pop is a harsh industry. If you donât constantly promote, you wonât stay relevant. The reason groups like Twice and BTS stay relevant is because they have promotions more than once a year. Seventeen came out with two abums this year and released several projects. Pentagon is coming back for the 3rd or 4th time this year. Like, damn. Not saying groups have to promote all the time, but I do think they need to come back at least twice a year when theyâre new. Once they gain a fanbase, they donât have to come back as often. With new groups, itâs important because fans are still deciding whether they like the group and whether they will keep following the group.
Winner has one full length album and one mini album. Everything else that theyâve put out since Taehyunâs departure has been title tracks. Iâm sure they lost some fans after Taehyun left too because 2NE1 left around the same time and people were probably fed up with YGâs shit. I know I was...because I was waiting for Winner to come back...with Taehyun. But unfortunately that never happened. Hell, the members would probably get more done if they leave the company and work on their solo careers. I mean, look at Taehyun. Heâs doing well, writing and performing the kind of music he wants, and he seems happy. Are his former members even happy?
Itâs the same with iKON. They have one full album and then title tracks. Mind you, there was about a two year hiatus in between. Iâm sure they lost fans during this time because people got bored and/or impatient. This was upsetting just because they came in so strong only to disappear on a Japanese tour for like a year. Thereâs nothing wrong with that in itself but, at the same time, I think they shouldâve built up momentum before leaving for an extended period of time. The only member thatâs doing big things is Bobby. He had the #MOBB collab with Mino; we probably wonât hear from them again but thatâs none of my business. He also released a full-length solo album this year. I can understand this. I mean, the boy won Show Me The Money 3Â as an idol rapper. Being that these boys had to go through not one but two survival shows just to make it [and some of them almost didnât make it], Iâd think that YG would be promoting them better after spending money on the production of a show just to form the group. But Iâm wrong.
Blackpink is the girl group that we were promised for like 4 or 5 years from YG. We finally got them. But guess what? Theyâre still ignored and only have a total of 5 songs even though itâs been a little over a year since they debuted. I thought that they would at least have a mini-album by now. How can YG debut another girl group when he neglected 2NE1, didnât try to help Bom when that stupid âscandalâ came to light, and is currently not giving much of a shit about Blackpink? Also, I heard that âAs If Itâs Your Lastâ is a song that was written for 2NE1. Upon listening to it, I felt hurt because I could almost hear CL, Minzy, Bom, and Dara singing it. I kinda thought it was unfair and disrespectful to both 2NE1 and Blackjacks. I know itâs not BPâs fault but YG is a snake.
YG prides himself in being in the top 3 K-pop entertainment companies but does he even have a right to feel that way when he canât even manage the groups he has? When heâs becoming more and more known for tearing groups apart and crushing peopleâs hopes and dreams? I thought SM Entertainment was bad with the way they treat some of their artists but at least the CEO of SM is paying attention to their newest group, NCT, and giving them regular comebacks. At least JYP is consistent with popular groups like Got7, Day6, and Twice. I know that every company has groups that get less attention but YG literally doesnât pay attention to anyone...
I honestly feel bad for YG trainees and even the members that already debuted. They come into the company hoping to debut. Theyâre people with hopes and dreams. I wonder how people in these groups really feel. Are they feeling bored? Sad? Angry that theyâre in this situation? Do they feel like theyâve wasted their time? I mean, I know that all Jennie is doing is binge-watching shows on Netflix and Jisoo gets out like once a week to host Inkigayo. Other than that, who knows?
Honestly, if YG debuts two new groups next year what will become of iKON? Will we have to wait another two years for a comeback? Will Blackpink ever get at least a mini-album? Will Winner ever get an actual album with Taehyun gone?
Side-note: I honestly think YG could be replaced as top 3. There are plenty of other groups and companies that are doing pretty well right now. Honestly I could see CJ, Pledis, Cube, or even Starship taking the title soon. Monsta X, Seventeen and Pentagon have done REALLY well this year and Iâm not saying that just because I stan them. Anyway, YG is working hard but heâs not working smart. Serial debuting is not the way to go...
Update [12:59pm] I spoke to my other friend who brought up a good point about YG doing what he does in order to make money. I canât help but agree with this. But at the same time, is making money as important as giving groups attention and staying relevant? Because he can easily make money by having groups come back more often or giving them some sort of reality show, etc.Â
WAKE UP.
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How narcissistic leaders destroy from within
âNarcissists are adept at self-promotion and often shine in job interviews,â Charles A. OâReilly says. Which means the depth of their pathology doesnât reveal itself until they gain power. | iStock/dane_mark
What traits do we look for in our leaders? Ask someone what distinguishes a forceful leader, in business or politics, and theyâre likely to mention self-confidence and charisma. Great leaders, we say, are bold and strong-willed. They have a vision for creating something new or remaking a company or a country. They challenge conventional wisdom and are slowed by neither self-doubt nor criticism.
These are the individuals whom corporate boards tend to select as CEOs, especially in times of upheaval, when the status quo is failing. Theyâre adept at self-promotion and shine in job interviews. Then, once theyâre in power, we find out who they really are.
Sometimes theyâre as good as their promise. But many turn out to be not just confident but arrogant and entitled. Instead of being bold, theyâre merely impulsive. They lack empathy and exploit others without compunction. They ignore expert advice and treat those who differ with contempt and hostility. Above all, they demand personal loyalty. They are, in short, raging narcissists.
Charles A. OâReilly, the Frank E. Buck Professor of Management at Stanford Graduate School of Business, studies how the personalities of leaders shape the culture of organizations and the behavior of those who work in them. In a paper with Jennifer Chatman of the University of California, Berkeley, he reviews the literature on narcissistic leaders, encompassing more than 150 studies, and draws some somber and urgent conclusions.
âThere are leaders who may be abusive jerks but arenât really narcissists,â OâReilly says. âThe distinction is what motivates them. Are they driven to achieve some larger purpose? Do they really want to make the company or the country better, or accomplish some crazy goal like making electric cars mainstream and maybe colonizing Mars along the way? Or is it really all about their own aggrandizement?â
When their self-admiration has some basis in reality, narcissistic leaders can achieve great things; that was certainly the case with Steve Jobs at Apple. But over the past decade, researchers have grown increasingly concerned by the destructive effects of narcissists on organizations. Cautionary tales abound, from Enron to Uber to Theranos.
True narcissists, OâReilly says, are self-serving and lack integrity. âThey believe theyâre superior and thus not subject to the same rules and norms. Studies show theyâre more likely to act dishonestly to achieve their ends. They know theyâre lying, and it doesnât bother them. They donât feel shame.â They are also often reckless in the pursuit of glory â sometimes successfully, but often with dire consequences.
But even worse, narcissists change the companies or countries they lead, much like bad money drives out good, and those changes can outlast their own tenure, OâReilly says. Divergent voices are silenced, flattery and servility are rewarded, and cynicism and apathy corrode any sense of shared purpose in a culture where everyoneâs out for themselves. In the extreme, they can destroy the institution itself.
Why Do We Empower Them?
Anyone who was bullied as a kid is familiar with the consoling notion that bullies donât really believe theyâre better than us â theyâre âjust compensatingâ for low self-esteem. They present as confident and assertive to mask some inner pain, and we take solace in their secret suffering, maybe feigning pity for their brokenness.
Unfortunately, that generous assessment is not always true.
âThatâs the classic case of vulnerable narcissism recognized in psychiatry,â OâReilly says. âBut in the last decade or so, thereâs been an outpouring of research on whatâs called grandiose narcissism. These individuals have high self-esteem. They are much more agentic, more extroverted, and really more dangerous. And evidence shows that theyâre achieving high positions in organizations, getting promoted and making more money than normal people.â
Such individuals seek positions of power where they can be admired and can demonstrate their superiority. And they tend to gain those posts because they look like prototypical leaders. âThere must be 20 or 30 studies that demonstrate this,â OâReilly says. âIf you gather a group of strangers and give them a task, those who are more narcissistic are much more likely to be selected as leaders.â
You end up with these individualistic cultures with no teamwork and low integrity. Weâve documented this in a bunch of Silicon Valley tech firms.
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OâReilly thinks we may especially tend to choose narcissistic leaders in times of turmoil. âIn the last few decades, big companies like automakers and banks have been threatened by technological disruption. So you could imagine that in anxious times people are looking for a hero, a confident person who says, âI have a solution.ââ They may be the only ones who are confident in such times.
âBy the way,â he adds, âI havenât researched this, but I think venture capitalists love these people. For their business model, which is to invest in 10 companies hoping that one pays off big, it makes sense. If Iâm a VC and I see one startup thatâs headed by an introverted engineer and another thatâs led by someone who says, âYeah, Iâm going to change the word, and if you donât get it, then youâre a bozoâ â Iâm going to go for the visionary spiel.â In a way, itâs an investment model predicated on grandiosity.
Tallying the Damage
Because narcissists are fundamentally driven by their own self-interest, lack empathy, and are less constrained by ethical standards, they can cause tremendous harm once in power and can even put the organizations they lead at risk, OâReilly says.
Field studies have shown that narcissistic CEOs are more likely to engage in fraud and other types of white-collar crime, manipulate earnings, and pursue aggressive tax avoidance. And a 2013 study of U.S. presidents found that those who scored higher on the narcissism scale were more likely to abuse their authority (not to mention, on a personal level, their marriage vows).
Along with Bernadette Doerr of UC Berkeley, OâReilly recently published the results of three experiments showing that narcissistic people in general have lower levels of integrity â meaning their words and deeds do not align â and that that they are more likely to lie, cheat, and steal in order to prove their special status.
Ascending to a position of power only reinforces these tendencies, OâReilly says. âBeing elected or appointed to office validates their sense of entitlement. At the same time, even without narcissism, power disinhibits â it encourages people to indulge their worst instincts â so now youâve got the two working together.â
And when narcissists do achieve some success, it reinforces their belief that they know better than others, so that they feel even more justified in ignoring the advice of experts and relying on their own instincts. âSuccess chips away at their hold on reality,â OâReilly writes in his review.
Not surprisingly, studies also show that narcissistsâ belief in their superiority is based on scant evidence, validated neither by objective measures of intelligence or competence nor by performance reviews from peers or subordinates. One recent paper on corporate decision-making found that grandiosity in leaders was associated with greater risk-taking but not better financial returns.
As a result, narcissists often feel they donât receive the admiration and credit they deserve, and they can seem pathologically consumed with resentment. That can take the form of petulance, aggression, unhinged public rants, and abuse of underlings. Narcissistic CEOs often involve their firms in costly litigation. In the narcissistâs worldview, other human beings must be either acolytes or enemies.
But the gravest danger posed by such leaders is that their malignant influence guides the behavior and expectations of others â and ultimately shapes the culture of the organization or polity in their own image. Studies of businesses show that self-serving, unethical behavior at the top cascades through the organization and becomes legitimized, or at least normalized.
âOnce theyâre in power, narcissists consolidate their position by firing everyone who challenges them,â OâReilly says. In their place rise a plague of toadies, opportunists, and enablers equally guided by self-interest and short on scruples. âSo you end up with these individualistic cultures with no teamwork and low integrity. Weâve documented this in a bunch of Silicon Valley tech firms.â
When you join a new company, you figure out how you need to behave to fit in, he says. âIf you see that the path upward requires you to scheme, suck up, and withhold information, then you have a choice: You can either do the same or not, in which case youâre going to be excluded and probably eliminated.â
He points to the struggles of Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi to turn the company around after its founding CEO, Travis Kalanick, was forced out. âOnce you create these cultures, itâs very hard to change them. There are long-term consequences.â
Follow the Trail
OâReillyâs hope is that by pulling together the lessons from what is now a large body of research on narcissistic leadership, we can learn to better distinguish between real transformational leaders and the self-dealing look-alikes who exploit our hopes and fears to gain power.
If youâre evaluating candidates for high office, you really need to look beyond the self-presentation, he says. âToo often, when boards select CEOs, especially outside CEOs, they do it through interviews. But interviews play to the strength of a narcissist. And you canât just look at performance, because they can fake performanceâ â blithely taking credit for othersâ work and even falsifying results.
âWhat would really be far more illuminating would be to go talk to the people whoâve worked for them and with them in the past. You have to get data from people who have seen that person operating. But that typically isnât what happens.â
Itâs up to the hiring teams and voters who select leaders, OâReilly says, to do the proper background checks: âWeâre not helpless. The information is out there.â
And as research shows, the stakes are high â because, as OâReilly says, âThese people arenât going to change.â
source https://scienceblog.com/516027/how-narcissistic-leaders-destroy-from-within/
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