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Me, to myself: Alastor is bad cluster b rep, Alastor is bad cluster b rep, Alastor is
Also me: *accidentally projects my own cluster b symptoms onto him while writing fanfiction*
Me:
Me: Oops
#i keep writing him with bpd npd and aspd traits#mans is too relatable#he gets his self worth from external validation#if he doesnât get attention he will die (again)#he uses his carefully manufactured image to hide his emotions/weaknesses/pain#the smiling is âinappropriate affectâ#he lies/creates chaos when heâs bored#inflated sense of self? check#heâs good at reading people but struggles with empathy#i bet his âweird moral codeâ has a fuckton of black and white thinking#speaking of which#frowning as weakness/smiling as strength is black and white thinking too#charlie needs to get some DBT in the hotel#hazbin hotel#alastor#alastor hazbin hotel#fanbyâs fuckery#fanbyâs headcanons#fanby: uhverse#fanby: uh3#uh: alastor
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What sort of personality disorders do 1010 have?
You have made a grave mistake, my friend.
I'm only familiar with Cluster-B disorders, characterized typically by extreme emotions, so I can only speak for those. And saying this again for the people in the back: because 1010 are robots, they literally cannot fit the full criteria for actively having disorders, given that they could not have undergone trauma, nor had a generational influence, nor even have enough time to reasonably develop them. I am 100% aware of this. I just like taking things I notice in characters I like and exaggerating them.
It's more so that the basic formatting of "I live to complete my mission, and my mission is serving the fans" got exaggerated to the extreme.
Firstly! I'll describe each disorder from what I know and then talk about which boy fits what, solely off of my own interpretation of them.
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ASPD:
- Characterized by apathy and a sort of "disconnection" from "societal norms," very, very losely. On its own, typically displayed as a want for self righteousness over purpose.
- It is typically known for a distaste for societal sanctions, as well, and the psych in particular would more than likely have some sort of criminal history out of boredom, not "insane need."
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Purl's traits are kept close to his chest; he shows his symptoms in a way that'd typically get a reaction of "he's too quiet and uncaring that it's almost scary, what's wrong with him?"
Purl has a sense of apathy towards performing, and you'd think it's his favorite thing in the world. But he likes the fans they have far more. Not even talking to them directly, more so watching them. He loves watching them and trying to memorize each one before they even speak. He points out specific people in crowds that he recognizes because of this. If you stand out even remotely at a fan meet, he'll pick you out and keep all focus on people he recognizes.
02, quietly, while the others are doing a bit: "... In seat 23B, second aisle. Isn't your name Lizzie? Ahh-haha... I remember you. I still don't like blueberries, if you're curious."
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NPD:
- Characterized by an extremely fragile state of self worth and perception of the world around oneself. On its own, typically displayed as having "a flared ego" due to it being extremely fragile.
- Typically known for a distaste in societal norms as well, but instead often believes oneself to be above or set apart from those norms rather than simply bored by them.
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The way I write Rin fits NPD the best.
He has an inherent need for control, that's what it would be. Which manifests itself in very innocent ways. Taking control of the group when it comes to his brothers, taking control over performances, the crowd, everything. It's often unintentional, but he tries to have control over most things in his life. He's the leader, he's the head, he needs to control it.
Though it gets 'out of hand' when his leadership is questioned by one of the others. He'll get outright snappy and even less respondent than he is normally, sometimes even disregarding his brothers' concerns entirely because they act off emotion, and he knows better.
Simultaneously, he's one of the most likely to disobey Neon, finding loopholes in rules to do things purely for the sake of trying to trigger the same intense emotions his brothers feel easily. If he's too "numb," and can find a logical reason to disobey, he will.
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BPD:
- Characterized by extreme difficulty managing one's emotional state and relies heavily on outside influence to determine their own mental peace of mind. On its own, displayed as being "very emotional" or having "extreme emotional responses" to "minor events."
- Typically known for forming "extreme" attachments to those they care about, and allowing those attachments to control their life so much that a borderline would quicker kill themself than allow the person they love most to think poorly of them.
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Eloni is absolutely BPD and HPD, cannot change my mind. Luckily for him, his FP is Haym, so he can (thankfully) always be around him for that extra moral boost.
But even with Haym at his side, it doesn't change he highs and lows, often triggered by the fans. His anxiety is greatly tied into extreme paranoia regarding the crowd and others in his life, that can even extend to Neon and the other boys that aren't Haym.
The others don't even want me to be in the group, do they? They'd like it if Captain did away with me. The fans hate me, and they hate me because I'm making the group look bad. Even Haym hates me, he hates me, he didn't say anything to me when we went to the dressing room, he wants me dead. They want me dead, they want me dead, they want me dead.
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Haym's BPD as well, as he's erratic enough to have those great shifting moods, extreme responses, and extreme attachments. Smiley and bubbly, and he really only gets by because he splits outwardly; if something is wrong, it's everyone else's fault. And suddenly, whoever he was just all over is a terrible person and looking at them makes him want to throw up. And he can't even do that.
He'd end up getting attached to a random fan at one of their fan meets that asked only him something, to the point that that one fan being in the crowd or not can determine Haym's mood for the next few days. Purl helps him point them out of the crowd when he sees them.
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HPD:
- Characterized by a need for others' attention to be on them to feel worthy of being and having an extremely fragile perception of self and others around them. On its own, displays as "constantly needing attention."
- Typically known for similar attachments as seen in BPD, except displayed onto everyone around them rather than one person. If the histrio is not worthy of attention, they are not worthy of being alive, and will be willing to change their entire identity or even try to kill themself just to be worthy of attention.
Wanna still stick with the fact that if we're staying true to canon, all of them show histrionic traits, no questions about that. This all started with their extreme reaction to the fans thinking poorly of them (getting so overwhelmed they will blow up in response to poor fan reaction), after all.
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Zim's traits are all very, very shown to the world in a dramatic fashion; he shows his symptoms in a way that'd typically get a reaction of "he's dangerous, don't get too close to him."
Zim loves being able to perform in front of people, but could give less of a damn for who those people even are. They all blur into nothingness on the stage, and none of them matter once the lights go down, but he's decent enough to try and pretend he recognizes someone that really likes him in particular. If he's not being looked at, he's tuned out, and will often act out specifically for Neon's attention. He doesn't get the same attachments his brothers do, but his emotions hit those similar extremes just as easily.
#this is so long but also i Will talk a lot about cluster b pds and this is proof.#also the thought of 1010 having developed with just. complete extremes in every aspect of their selves is Good.#ঠmusings#not gonna main tag this one because i am also nervous about it hitting the wrong audience.#ঠ~ headcanons
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@hestiaqâ (making a new post because I donât want to keep reblogging a long threat)
Iâm really sorry for what you were put through. I sincerely hope youâre in a better situation now and doing okay. Thatâs horrific.
I remember the Ted Bundy bit youâre talking about- and sheâsâŚ. honestly quite right? If enough men have NPD/ASPD a few of them are going to seem intelligible, I think. I donât really understand what youâre saying about Ted Bundy- if itâs tongue in cheek or not.
Okay, like I said, I havenât seen this post she made. necromancerdoll just said that larps said sociopaths/psychopaths âcanât perform well in society/function with others.â I know aspd and being a sociopath are often considered the same thing, and I know a lot of them are pretty transparent assholes. Psychopathy isnât a formal diagnosis at all, but criminal psychologists do use the term, and thereâs a pretty solid consensus on what it means. Some people say psychopaths are a subset of sociopaths, and other people say itâs a similar but distinct thing, but in either case, one of the main characteristics of a psychopath (which a sociopath doesnât, or doesnât always have) is that theyâre smooth and charming, and they use those traits to manipulate others.
My comment about Ted Bundy was sarcastic (and probably not in very good faith, but also wasnât really related to the main point of all this), because saying psychopaths âcanât perform well in society/function with othersâ is the opposite of the truth. Ted Bundy was charming, socially adept, approachable, and likable, which was exactly how he managed to lure in many of his victims. He would put on a fake cast and ask women to help him get things into his car, which is what that scene from silence of the lambs is based on. Larps might be totally aware of all that and just phrased something too broadly. The only way it would be relevant to the rest of what Iâm saying is, if she really meant to say that psychopaths are socially inept, it would be another example of how she tries to speak as an authority on mental disorders she doesnât understand. Mostly I was just poking fun.
Women are over-diagnosed. But I donât understand how Larps pointing out shitty behavior is the same as âdiagnosing everyoneâ. Also, sheâs talked about how borderline personality is over-diagnosed and often ascribed to women who are dealing with trauma. Sheâs also not talking about it from a âI donât personally like themâ only- âthese peopleâ are people who are cruel and vicious and play victim when called out on their cruel vicious behavior.
Clearly, you and I interpret the things she says about bpd and âcluster bâ in general very differently. For one, diagnosing anyone over the internet is absurd. In my first response to her, I did agree that she has made some good points, mostly about the link between autogynephilia and narcissism. But thatâs about noticing an overarching theme within a specific population, and thereâs already a decent amount of academic writing about that link. Case studies done by real psychologists. Actual studies done with controls and statistics and so on. And even with stuff like fucking âtrans lesbianâ dating profiles that larps points out herself, there is some solid evidence there due to the sheer repetition of entitled attitudes, fetishism, etc, the list goes on. My issue is with the way she thinks she understands BPD when she clearly doesnât, how she applies âcluster bâ or bpd to an awful lot of people, largely young âtransmenâ or radfems she doesnât like, and how whenever anyone sheâs put down for having BPD tells her to cut it out, or tells her that sheâs wrong about them, she dismisses anything they have to say by citing âpeople with bpd are insane,â or telling them theyâre being irrational due to their disorder. Basically sheâs using it as a shield to avoid being held accountable for the things she says. âAnyone whoâs telling me borderline people arenât irrational is only saying that because theyâre borderline, and therefore theyâre irrational!â Iâm not saying sheâs diagnosing âeveryone.â And regarding transmen specifically, there are a lot of psychological factors involved in that situation, and for someone whoâs so vocal about the cultlike, exploitative, backwards nature of the trans movement, youâd think she would understand how absurd and frankly just plain egotistical it is to think she can simplify all of those psychological factors and dynamics down to âcluster b.â Again - remember that sheâs talking about people sheâs never met in her life, usually judging from one blog description, a handful of posts, or sometimes nothing more than a fucking selfie.
Even as a younger girl with supposed âBPDâ (who even identified with the label)- I wouldnât have found this stuff offensive, and if it did (which I might have, and sometimes still do)- itâs really that easy to log off or go outside.
Thatâs good for you, and I respect your perspective. And youâre right, I could just log off and ignore what larps is saying. You can say that about anything anyone says on the internet, and technically itâs true. But I didnât. The things sheâs saying are ignorant, I find them personally hurtful, and I think sheâs spreading misinformation, harmful stereotypes, and regressive thinking. I see that sheâs saying dehumanizing and belittling things to women on this site who deserve respect, and probably worst of all, I see that there are a lot of people who look up to her, ask her for advice, sometimes idolize her a bit, and many of them will believe pretty much anything she says. Sheâs feeding them bullshit and some really vile ideas about mental health stigma, and how people with certain disorders (mainly BPD) deserve to be treated. I donât think sheâs the devil incarnate, and I donât think sheâs out here ruining lives and destroying families. I think sheâs an asshole with an inflated sense of her own insight and knowledge, and I decided to say something. I could have logged off, but in this case, I didnât. Thatâs all.
...I donât understand how Larps memeing on a Tumblr blog and often posting insightful ideas about personality disorders is âinsulting, ignorant, and dehumanizingâ.
Yeah I donât know what you consider âinsightful,â but posting the definition of âinsaneâ and copy-pasting a list of bpd symptoms and saying âsee? these people are insane,â and tagging her response to my post with #have u ever noticed how all of these people have personality disorders (callback to âanyone whoâs telling me borderline people arenât irrational is only saying that because theyâre borderline, and therefore theyâre irrational!â) ...doesnât quite cut it in my book.
She doesnât bring up cluster b whenever she âfeelsâ someone is acting unreasonable and dramatic- they⌠are unreasonable and dramatic- at least in whatever context, and people donât have to dig deep to see who someone really is to be able to just say âno thatâs insane, byeâ.
Mmmm... I realize you see the situation differently from me, but am I acting insane? I mean, at worst, Iâm making the undeniably blunt way she talks to people into something bigger than it needs to be. And yeah, I know... classic cluster b, amiright? But even if thatâs the case, even if Iâm misinterpreting her views, surely you can see where Iâm coming from. And there are quite a few people who have the same objections that I do (mostly radfems, radfem adjacent women, terves, etc.). When she wrote that tag #have u ever noticed how all of these people have personality disorders, isnât it clear that she was referring to me, as well as the rest of the radfemmish women who have been speaking against this behavior from her lately? Isnât she making an assumption that I have a personality disorder (which I do not)?Â
Do you really think my objection to the way larps talks about bpd is an indication that I have a personality disorder, and that Iâm insane? Unreasonable at worst. But yes, she is absolutely using the excuse that those who object to her saying borderline people are irrational are saying so because theyâre borderline/irrational. And like I said, Iâm hardly the only example of her saying things like this. Someone just reblogged the original post of all of this and said #I just blocked larps bcuz shes been reblogging random old posts from me calling me a cluster b as bait #as far as I know Iâm the only quote on quote crazy bihet that doesnât have a pd? Someone else wrote #I really looked up to larps hence Iâm so torn about this #if I didnât believe she was a smart and decent well meaning person I wouldnât care. Thatâs just on that particular post, within the last few hours.
People with personality disorders are diagnosed because theyâre anti social and cause harm to those they âloveâ/interact with and the cluster b community (that I hung around) spend most of their time groveling in misery- despite often constructing their own fantastical narrative of people horrifically abusing them and demanding to be coddled for every emotion.
Some of them, yeah. Not all of them, and not enough to justify making assumptions about people youâve never met.
What I mean is- the pain that theyâre feeling is an offense to ego a LOT of the time. And otherâs shouldnât have to walk around eggshells to make sure that they donât injure others egos.
Agreed.
Like itâs not real, rudfems donât enable or contribute to violence against women. None of these women, no matter how mean they are, contributed to the pain I experienced in childhood for being called BPD- actually it was always men and handmaidens.
I didnât accuse larps, or any other ârudefemâ of contributing to violence against women. I know that men were the reason âhysteriaâ could be diagnosed in the past, and I know that men are the reason bpd is being overdiagnosed in women today. And Iâm honestly not even trying to say larps is being misogynistic to the women she says this stuff to (though re-reading, I realize it could easily sound that way). Misogyny or not, dismissing someoneâs perfectly measured, reasonable objection as irrational just because they have a bpd diagnosis - which in several cases, dr. larps diagnosed all by herself - is unacceptable, is the same pattern and circular justification used on âhystericalâ women in the past, and is particularly bad because, as we agree, bpd is too often being diagnosed as the new version of hysteria. Sheâs re-enforcing age-old stereotypes about mental illness, and sheâs buying into it so completely that she really believes that borderline people are so unreliable that she knows whatâs going on in their heads better than they do. Hence saying that borderline people objecting to her backwards stereotyping are doing so out of a kneejerk reaction to a damaged ego, rather than because they know what sheâs saying is false.
Also - she isnât talking about everyone with âdiagnosedâ BPD.
If thatâs what she means, then sheâs the one who needs to say it, not you. Again, I respect that you have a different view of this, and I understand your perspective, I canât believe what others say about her intentions and supposed read-between-the-lines distinctions, when she doesnât say it herself, and the things she says and the way she acts do not communicate what youâre saying about her.
Meaning, thereâs a distinction between people who have been diagnosed and are suffering, and people who have been diagnosed (or not) and are cruel and have a total lack of insight and disregard for other people.
Mental health is complicated. You canât divide people with bpd into two clean categories like that. Thatâs not how it works. And you CERTAINLY canât lump people into the âbadâ category simply because they donât like how you talk about their disorder. You canât see someone objecting to what youâre saying and assume that YOU know that theyâre coming from a âtotal lack of insight.â People are not psychic. Larps is using the fact that some people with pds have a lack of self-awareness to dodge accountability when itâs convenient for her. Itâs complete circular logic - something you would think she would be above, no? âtheyâre irrational, and when they complain about me calling them irrational, I can shut them down by saying that any complaint they make is irrational.â I know I keep saying this, but itâs true. In my first comment, I pointed out that this is her pattern, and what was her response? hashtag have u ever noticed how all these people have personality disorders. fucking exactly what I said her response would be, because thatâs the only excuse she has.Â
And yes, insight is a qualifying factor that âââexoneratesââââ (quite a loaded word in this context????) someone from being âreallyâ BPD. The thing about BPD is that they will not (or cannot) change- like itâs not a fixed part of your personality, and if it is- you deserve to be called out, and if it isnât and you still behave like that⌠you deserve to be called out, still.
Again, no. If this is the case, then we need to make a second definition to separate âREALLY bpdâ from âsorta bpd,â since currently they both meet the same diagnostic criteria. Itâs not up to you, or larps, to create definitive new categories of mental illness.
I went from being told I had âborderline tendenciesâ to being diagnosed with full BPD, to basically nothing at all, because I became aware of those patterns, learned how to be objective about my thoughts and emotions, and practiced resisting them to the point where they only show up if Iâm already in a really bad state. I donât consider myself to have - or to have had - a personality disorder, because Iâve almost completely gotten rid of those mental reactions. But I know people who do have BPD, who are self aware, who are trying the same things I did, but the difference is that even though they now have the tools to keep them in check, those mental and emotional reactions are still present for them, and likely always will be. To say they donât REALLY have bpd because theyâre able to control it is frankly insulting. âIf youâve been able to improve it through treatment, you never really had it in the first place.â I know thatâs not how you meant it, but thatâs what it boils down to.
BPD is not defined by a lack of self-awareness. Itâs a pattern of ingrained emotional and mental reactions (and, subsequently, behaviors). These often develop as a method of self defense against external abuse. Or sometimes thereâs no abuse and itâs there anyways. The cause isnât always clear. But the criteria calling these symptoms âpervasiveâ doesnât mean the individual is unaware of them. People who know they have bpd, and who are working on treating their bpd still have bpd.
â...deserve to be called outâ... itâs not larpsâ business to âcall someone outâ for having bpd. She can call someone out for acting like a shithead, but simply having bpd is not a flaw that needs to be criticized. Your phrasing makes it seem like thatâs what youâre saying, and although Iâm pretty sure thatâs not what you meant, thatâs what larps seems to think.
Not only are neither you nor larps qualified to determine the âcategoryâ of bpd that people on the internet who youâve never met fall into, but even IF thatâs how she sees it, then, again, she needs to say that herself, and she needs to reflect that view in the way she treats people.
But to conclude, she really does make that explicitly clear that she doesnât think everyone with BPD is a âscreeching, manipulative, hystericâ.
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You made a bunch of excuses for her and I still have no reason to believe any of it is true
However, Iâm mostly speaking for myself here because Iâve been hanging around tungle for too long and I mostly want to say that this all doesnât really matter. Like, so many feminists on here ramble on about âbut what about bpd women who get misdiagnosed?â yeah I didnât face brutality at the hands of snarky women on the internet. These are not the people that even enabled the violence that me or many other women with trauma face.
Again, I didnât say that. I donât think sheâs destroying lives either, I was just frustrated, saw that many other women are frustrated about her too, and I felt like saying something, so I did. That is the extent of my motivations here. I do think that she is spreading harmful stereotypes and misinformation, but Iâm under no delusion that she is causing damage on a massive scale. She is, however, just one more raindrop in the proverbial ocean of mental health stigma. Insignificant as a single drop may be, surely itâs no less significant than any of those people with bpd whose bad behavior you say should be called out. If itâs larpsâ business to call them out, then itâs just as much my business to call her out.
Itâs not up to her and other women like her to clarify every single thing they say- people DO generalize and we should be able to communicate without having to specify for everyone.
Iâm not asking her to clarify âevery single thingâ she says, Iâm asking her to stop acting like a shithead, labeling people sheâs never met, acting like sheâs an authority on personality disorders, and using her actually wildly skewed perception of these disorders which is steeped in regressive, harmful, and demeaning stigma and stereotypes about mental illness in order to manipulate her way out of being held accountable for any of it. Iâm not telling her to stop generalizing for the purpose of communication, Iâm asking her to stop making inaccurate generalizations based on stereotypes, and to stop using âcluster bâ as a catch-all for bad behavior. Just because someone is a shithead, or unreasonable, or overdramatic, doesnât make them borderline, and itâs insulting to the people with bpd who are truly good people, who also have to deal with their disorder being an internet trend for self-dxâers to milk sympathy and excuse their abusive behavior (sounds just like what larps would diagnose as cluster b, I know, but it turns out that many people who donât have bpd exhibit these traits as well), deal with shitty treatment from healthcare providers who read the diagnosis and think they know everything about you before you even walk in the door (back when I had the âfull bpdâ diagnosis, a therapist said to my face that people with bpd were considered âused goods,â and my current psychiatrist treats me with an absurd and totally unjustified level of suspicion), deal with the massively pervasive stereotypes everyone else holds about bpd (ranging from âserial killerâ to âused goodsâ to âfake trend on the internet to get attentionâ), as well as dealing with - oh yeah - the actual fucking disorder, as well as often comorbid cases of PTSD, depression, anxiety, bipolar, etc.
Iâm just saying, it would be a lot more effective and hurt a lot less people you supposedly didnât mean to target if you just called out the actual behavior instead of âcalling outâ a disorder. Additionally, Iâm pretty sure that people with bpd who do lack self awareness are far more likely to respond to direct criticisms of their behavioral patterns than they are to respond to the label of bpd being âcalled out.â Theyâd just see the latter as more fuel for self-pity. Itâs a little harder to justify being the victim of someone saying âhey stop being abusive.â
And if thatâs not enough reasons for you, consider: people who have shitty behaviors who donât have a cluster b disorder (yes, larps, they exist) are just gonna hear criticisms of a disorder they donât have and brush it right off. Call out the actual behavior, and thereâs a chance they might recognize it in themselves. Itâs like a quadruple win.
A hallmark of bpd/npd/aspd/hpd is having no insight into that, that people say shit, and you take what you can and leave it-her, or me, or anyone else mincing that upâŚ.. doesnât help bpd women live in a world where nobody is going to mince anything up ever. It did not help me when people coddled me, and I intuitively knew that and was deeply frustrated with it.
Youâre right that it doesnât help to have people make excuses for you or âcoddle��� you. But not being unfair and pushing harmful stigma is not the same thing as âcoddling.â Nor is ânot mincingâ words the same thing as saying things that are untrue, unfair, dismissive, and insulting. Much like Trump saying blatantly racist things is NOT âjust telling it like it is.â (and no Iâm not comparing you or larps to trump or calling anyone racist. except trump)
Many of the women who have âspoken upâ about larps on tungle, Iâve seen on other mediums (fb, wordpress) and theyâre often just blatantly manipulative
Really? Am I being blatantly manipulative? Or insane? And, to reiterate, is what Iâve said on her post enough for her to assume that I - and anyone else raising these issues with her - ALL have personality disorders? Is it justification for her to say that Iâm âglorifyingâ ASPD/BPD?
and will never have any insight to the fact that all of this is really a non-issue
I gave you several examples above, and here's your treasure trove:
https://larpsandtherealgirl.tumblr.com/search/cluster%20b
Notice how she loves agreeing with everyone saying theyâve been abused by someone with a cluster b disorder, or otherwise says something negative about a person/people with a cluster b disorder, makes sweeping generalizations and basically uses âcluster bâ with the same tone that you would call someone an asshole - that is to say, using the same logical standards of âyou said some shit I thought was rude, so I think youâre an asshole & Iâm going to call you oneâ when talking about psychological medical diagnoses?
Yeah, occasionally she claims sheâs only talking about The Bad Ones, but thatâs a pretty thin excuse when 99% of the time you make no attempt to differentiate, and post things like screenshotted symptoms (which - if the âgood onesâ with that disorder actually have that disorder - would apply to the âgood onesâ too) with captions like âthese people are insane.â
Again, I realize you see the things she says very differently from me, but surely you can see where Iâm coming from. And I would hope that you can see that my having this perspective does not justify saying I have a personality disorder, that I am insane, or that I am âglorifyingâ ASPD and NPD. I would hope that the similar shit sheâs said about several other women who said things similar to what I said would also strike you as unjustified. You can make excuses that she wasnât literally diagnosing me with a personality disorder, but you canât make that excuse every single time she says something like this.
but instead âleave radical feminism because itâs so full of mean lesbian separatistsâ and make huge texts about it everywhere else and how rfeminism is a cult.
Okay... this is an entirely separate and irrelevant subject and Iâm not sure why youâre bringing it up. I mean it sounds like youâre saying âpeople who donât like being told theyâre insane are just butthurt kekâ which I really hope is not what youâre saying. Iâm pretty sure there are plenty of radical women who would object to being called insane and having their opinions dismissed because of a mental health diagnosis, who would raise their objections and still believe in their politics, probably due to the fact that - in this context - those things have virtually nothing to do with one another.
My point is- sheâs not just saying ppl who criticize her have bpd- they often do because people with personality disorders come out of the woodwork to be hideously angry at anyone who calls them abusive or âwrongâ and âbadâ (whatever that means at any given moment).
In summary: I appreciate and respect that you interpret the things larps says in a very different way, and Iâm not trying to tell you that you should be hurt or anything like that. But I canât accept what I see as excuses that youâre making for her, since she doesnât offer any of those explanations herself, and I donât see any evidence of the intentions youâre attributing to her, in her own words or behavior.
At the end of the day, larps is the only person who can speak for larpsâ intentions (much like the people whose criticisms larps deflects by claiming theyâre motivated by irrational emotion and a threatened victim complex SHOULD be the only ones who can speak for their intentions).
And at the end of the day, larps didnât show anything but disrespect and a total unwillingness to even consider that the way she speaks to, and treats, people with bpd and people who criticize her portrayal and internet-diagnosing of bpd, might not be 100% faultless.
At the end of the day, larps read what I had to say about her dismissive attitude and manipulative, circular justification for avoiding accountability. Her response was to double down on calling people with borderline âinsane,â and double down on her own belief that googling a list of symptoms makes her an expert on psychology, as well as an expert on the thoughts in other peoplesâ heads. She used the exact circular, dismissive excuse I was calling out, yet again said that the people criticizing her were all doing so because of their - well âour,â I should say, since she diagnosed me - personality disorders, rather than their actual thoughts, opinions, and perfectly reasonable objections. And then she answered a bunch of messages laughing about how crazy and terrible âcluster bâs are. No, she didnât literally say âEVERY SINGLE PERSON with bpd is like this,â but come on. Sheâs not the only person who can recognize patterns of behavior.
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