#i hope they get a latina woman cause we need the rep but this is a good second choice

[mioakem]

since yall wanna be assholes abt benedict and franny i hope that he plays sophie beckett

[m143ui]

A MESSAGE TO THE PJO FANDOM

so hello friends on the other side

I understand some of the major concerns regarding characters like piper and the feather and hazels description but when you bring Leo and Reyna into the fucking conversation I have lost all respect.

ANYONE CAN BE ABUSED, ETHNICITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

LATINO CHARACTERS

Reyna is not a negative stereotype, she isn't defined by being latina and neither is Leo, he isn't a stereotype simply because he’s latino and was abused. also him being called an elf was because he was short, which had nothing to do with him being latino. also the mamacita comment like y'all hide under the label “progressive” but ignore that mamacita has been a thing in Latin American communities for a fucking while. its not an insult dammit. its something that happens in our communities!!! its like saying muchacho y'all don't see men bitching about that.

also shocker I read the mamacita comment and I can proudly say I didn't go

“RICK YOU RACIST BITCH”

things that actually happen in communities aren't racist

and before any of y'all come at me with the usual you’re white excuse, hello friends im Peruvian and Paraguayan.

I don't think he’s perfect but bitching about characters like Leo which gave many of my Latin American friends hope for similar characters destroys your “listening to minorities” argument

also the lol “hes Mexican taco bad” argument like I live in Mexico we eat tacos like every fucking day. its literally a fact. and Leo isn't just defined as taco man.

believe it or not us latinos respect rick because he gave us role models and characters like us. we don't define a character by one line and instantly call discrimination. like yes a asian character can be snobby it has nothing to do with ethnicity. y'all are making this about ethnicity. an asian character can be anything, just like a white character or a black character or a gay character. people are not simply defined by their labels like ya’ll think. y'all are just a bunch of easily triggered snowflakes that can't live with that. they can be influenced but in the end labels are labels we are all human and should be treated as such.

LGBT REPRESENTATION

another thing Reyna was never officially a lesbian that was YOUR interpretation not riordans. IF HE DIDNT STATE IT , SORRY HONEY IT ISN’T CANON! I don't care about how she was “lesbian coded” if he didn't state it it isn't canon. 

I am so sick, as a lesbian, to see people use ALL QUEER DEATHS as a bury your gay tropes, what happened to seeing us as humans? why can't we be treated like any other character? if we die we die, it isn't always “haha gay evil boom death”. sometimes fully fledged characters have to die friends.

Nico isn't a bad gay character, he’s just a normal character who happens to be gay and has suffered major trauma. HIS TRAUMA WAS CAUSED BY HIS UPBRINGING, Nico isn't a 2000′s character, he’s from the 30′s, so obviously he woudn’t be perfect with his sexuality for gods sake it was the 30′s. the exact same thing happens with hazel, she isn't a modern black woman, she's a 30′s black woman. Nico’s coming out isn't him as a 21st century teen its from the time when the GOVERNMENT KILLED YOU FOR BEING GAY

also saying there are no lesbian characters? like wow look emmie and jo don't exist. Lavinia doesn't exist. poison doesn't exist. thanks fam you really make yourselves look smart here. simply because rick never said the word gay doesn't mean the gay characters don't exist friends. they are just labeled as what gay characters should be labeled as.... human.

LESBOPHOBIA & RACISM

im not educated in muslim or black culture so I won't mention characters like sam and hazel and piper because I respect and I am highly critical of what rick put in his books to describe these specific minorities.

HOWEVER saying rick is a lesbophobe, a homophobe, a racist a sexist cis guy is like do y’all wanna be taken seriously? use arguments don't hide behind words.

rick isn't a perfect writer but y'all really don't know how to criticise, y'all just hide behind big boy words and back it up with no evidence, just opinions.

rick doesn’t have the best minority rep out there but he is damn well trying and I respect that unlike all you fucking idiots.

SHIPS

now onto ships.... yay

frazel: im not gonna censor it like you pussies, believe it or not 13&16 year old relationships exist. they might not always be healthy but they exist. to deny this is to be stupid

solangelo:  another ship that is censored..the main argument I've seen is that it isn't developed and will isn't even a character... he was in last olympian and lost hero not my fault y'all have fish brains. I don't care if you dislike it but don't be like “ANYONE WHO SHIPS THIS IS AN ABUSIVE WHORE” like wow you always preach about accepting all ships and then throw this? also if you hate solangelo because of the “abuse” but ship percico like hi friends Nico is 4 years younger than Percy.. if y'all hate frazel because of the 3 year age difference y'all should hate this too.

CONCLUSIONS AND SHIT

not every character minority or otherwise is gonna be the way you want them to be, believe it or not any character can be anything, black characters can be loud, white characters can be loud. if they're only loud because “haha black” then THATS an issue not the simple existence of a loud black woman who has a loud personality.

y'all be here bitching about drew and I've never heard the asian perspective of this? just a bunch of black and white people telling asians they should be offended. was that just an uno reverse?

also last point stereotypes aren't always a negative thing and y'all need to get that in your heads.

anyway stay mad hoes <3

from a sane Peruvian <3

EDIT

I saw this beauty and had to comment on it

“having LGBT characters experience abuse and violence. nicos forceful outing rubs me the wrong way, especially because hes called a coward for being in the closet. its violent and kind of disturbing to make your gay character come out of the closet by force. maybe write better. additionally, alex's abusive father and subsequent homelessness because of her being trans is badly written.”

oh noooo gay characters can't deal with homophobia anymore ! like I can tell you have never been punched for being gay. is it bad to showcase how trans and gay ppl are 40% of homeless youth? or is even mentioning that discrimination? believe it or not some of us live in countries where people try to kill us. you have an advantage and it shows. about the coward thing... 

was FUCKING CUPID A GOOD CHARACTER? NO? I REST MY CASE. CUPID IS NOT SEEN AS A GOOD PERSON THEREFORE HE IS NOT A GOOD PERSON GET THAT IN YOUR THICK SKULLS.

 YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS LGBT FOLKS DONT GET FORCED OUT OF THE CLOSET 

#NEVER HAPPENS IN REALITY. 

JUST BECAUSE YOU WERENT FORCED OUT OF THE CLOSET DOESNT MEAN OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THAT SAME LUXURY. 

maybe stop spewing bullshit <3

(so I get that this scene can remind people of being outed and it can hurt them however this scene was never intended to be a good thing it literally says Nico is scared of facing his emotions)

EDIT NUMBER 2

oh boy rick really pissed off the snowflakes that I share a fandom with

“give Nico to the gays” no? he would be a femboy and they would yeet his trauma like ssrsly?

also hate rick? bitch no one is forcing you to read his tweets.

death of the author is such a toxic thing like the mans is alive boo he aint going nowhere..like What the fuck 

EDIT NUMBER 3

anyway final thoughts on this :

nico insn’t Uwu gay and its an insult to his character

Reyna is not a lesbian canonically (neither is Thalia)

Leo and Reyna are not racist

none of ricks characters are  written as insults to their communities

and if I see one more “but ....phobia/ ...ism I will do very illegal things

peace lol

RICK RIORDAN UPDATE:

congratulations rick antis! you have successfully harassed a  56 year old man into leaving social media! wow so progressive!!!! this totally won't backfire or anything!!!

all jokes aside all of you who harassed rick to the point of someone else taking over his social media should feel ashamed

[tori-artemis]

Hey @galaxythreads , this is a great way to ask these kinds of questions. No need to worry - you're not being offensive at all for not knowing these things, there are many things I don't know about other cultures and lived experiences as well. And I agree - firsthand experiences can be a lot more informative than just doing a random google search, and learning about these things and sharing different perspectives with each other would make for much better stories! I'm all for that!

So, hopefully this helps you out a bit.

As a bisexual brown/Hispanic ciswoman, I don't like:

The Spicy Latina trope. Or basically, the loud, feisty Latina who's always ready to fight, and has an Attitude™. I've tolerated it a lot in various media, but to be absolutely honest I have never truly related to it at all. And all of my Latina friends, my sister, etc. - they're nothing like that. At all. It not only feels tired and cliche, but also just very inauthentic.

Latinas being hypersexualized. Not sure if this is part of the Spicy Latina trope, but I'm adding it here bc again I could never relate to this trope. And none of the Latina women in my life fit this trope, and tbh I feel it's kind of demeaning. As well as an excuse that some of these men use to fetishize us. Which is just gross. :/

This is more of a pet peeve than a real issue, but I never really liked the whole, Hispanic-character-calling-their-white-friends "Chico" or "Chica" or "Hermano" - just weird stuff like that. Cause like, I've met and known so many Latin folks, both American born as well as immigrants, and I have never met anyone who's ever spoken like that, let alone to their white/American friends. IDK why, it just rings false to me.

As for bisexual, I guess the only issue I'd truly have is if it was ignored outright, or even worse - deemed as something that should be "cured" (barf) - like I'm not sure if that's an actual trope but basically I just don't like the idea of a character being established as bi only to then have them backtrack as being "confused" or just "curious" and not really serious about it. That sort of thing. (Not saying that they shouldn't be with someone of the opposite gender - cause as a bi woman I'd actually find that kind of rep super validating - but more that I wouldn't want to read a story where the character goes "oh yeah I said I was bi, but I was actually just going through a silly phase, cause bisexuality doesn't exist lol"... I hope I'm making sense here.)

I wish to see more of this:

Shy Latinos! Cause we exist! Introverted and awkward and a little unsure of themselves, I'd just love to see more variety when it comes to Latin characters. Maybe even artsy, or nerdy and really into math and science - just anything but, well, the usual stereotypes.

Maybe more atheist/nonreligious Latin folks? Don't get me wrong, there are so many who are religious, and that's cool. I guess it's just that there's also those of us who aren't religious (like myself). And well, a lot of portrayals of Hispanics - at least the ones that I've seen - tend to be very Catholic. And while there's some truth to that (my mother was baptized as a Catholic before she immigrated to the States) I've also known many Latin folks who aren't, if that makes sense? Like especially with those from the older generation - cause while there are a lot who stay religious, some actually end up leaving. (Like my mother - she was baptized in her country, but by the time she was living in the U.S she decided that she didn't want to be in any religion. She's elderly, and usually Hispanics in media at that age are portrayed as being very Catholic.)

Bi folks who are perhaps more awkward and reserved when it comes to dating? As opposed to being hypersexualized (which is actually a harmful trope from what I've heard). Tbh I'm personally not so bothered by that trope, harmful as it is, bc I think with the right context it could actually work (as in, a character who's self-destructive and uses sex like how one might abuse alcohol/drugs and they just happen to be bi... if that makes sense). But it would really depend on the context, and it's probably better to be careful when it comes to queer rep. So I'd think it'd be cool to see bi folks who are more on the shy side, and reserved, or even that they've never had sex before and they're just starting to enter the dating scene - that sort of thing.

can I ask an honest question and gently request that you respond in kind so I can learn?

(please forgive my awkward wording) 

I’m working on an original story right now and I very much want to portray other races/cultures/LGBTQ+ identities beyond mine in a non-offensive manner. I know that there are different stereotypes for different cultures/races/LGBTQ+ identities and genders within those, but I’m not super familiar with them, unfortunately. Could I Google this? Yeah. Why aren’t I googling this? First-hand experience is far more precious to me than some cooperation gathering a list of “things these people hate.” 

What are some common stereotypes for your culture/race that you don’t like in media and what are some things that you wish you could see? (Please keep answering even if your race/culture/LGBTQ identity has already been put down). Let’s learn and grow together so we can be more sensitive in the future. 

I will start: 

As a bisexual christian ciswoman I don’t like this: 

Bi characters don’t exist, or if they do they are often hidden or it’s removed because they had chemistry with the opposite gender (see Spencer Reid from Criminal Minds) (which is hilarious. How do people think bisexuality works?) 

Usually go for a gay relationship (which is fine, but being with the opposite gender doesn’t make them straight. Again, not how this works) 

I am literally wracking my brain for things but I am desperately trying to think of people who are bisexual and shown to be bisexual in media and failing terribly. 

I wish they would add more of this: 

WHY ARE THERE NO RELIGIOUS GAY PEOPLE??? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I WOULD PAY SOMEONE TO PORTRAY A RELIGIOUS GAY PERSON? (Specifically thinking of Christians because that’s what I am, but Muslims are gay too! and Jews, and people who practice Buddhism and so many others)