#i have system members who take it suuuuper seriously
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stars-in-our-skies · 2 years ago
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I think you missed the entire point of that poll
It’s not “psychological VS spiritual” it’s “using the word otherkin as it was intended (an identity) vs using it for characters you simply relate to”
Also, having a past life and identifying as that thing from a past life is inherently not a delusion. Spreading misinformation like that is harmful to those who actually experience psychosis.
Ignore any spelling errors. I have a migraine.
A. didnt misunderstand the point, just thought it was a non-issue, because it is
B. MY point was that, tldr, who gives a fucking shit what term you use when you experience the same thing. I believe i said that, too.
but, ok right. if the question is "kinning for fun". i can't imagine youd be "kinning" anything unless you seriously identified with what youre "kinning" as.
in which case, the definition of kin is identifying with/as something-- as in, part of your identity. & as someone who was in that community for a while i didnt notice anyone trying to claim that there was this huge difference between why you identify with/as something until… maybe a year or two ago? I dunno. im not involved much anymore. Like i said, things got crazy around the time that mogai first gained waves. Historically on otherkin forums it was accepted as just another way of experiencing kinship. (And i would know, i was there!)
so by our definition… yes, it should be included in kin if it's what they want. If you're looking for "believing in kinship spiritually i.e past lives" vs "strongly identifying with/as something" then… theres not too much of a difference in the experience other than origin. In which case, we already had words for those; spiritual kin & psychological kin. i did not keep a kin journal & frequent sites like otherkin.net back in 2016 for yall to tell me that this wasnt a thing LMAO.
(sidebar, it reminds me of when people try to say that endo systems are ~inherently different~ to traumagenic systems because of ~fundamental differences~ or some bullshit. They aren't, theyre functionally the same. they just formed under different conditions. Same shit, different community. //shrug)
But, lets use your example then. "Relating to a character". I dont believe that happens, but ok, thats me and maybe im wrong. if the thing was "i kin for funsies but i dont think im actually that thing / i just relate to this character" then yes, it would be a different word. I'm not sure about these days, but 8 years ago we called that a synpath. and even then, still not an issue. The broad otherkin community has always been accepting of kin-for-fun. Thats why terms like synpath & -hearted were made -- because theyre subtypes of otherkin & fictionkin.
i'm not fond of the "they should use a different word" thing. Seems like another attempt at "correcting" people on their own identities. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth considering how often "you cant use this word because it was made with this other thing in mind" is used as an argument against queer identities but i digress.
I could see this argument working maybe if kin was a closed practice, but it was never closed to begin with and like i said, was always inclusive of all kintypes including synpaths. //shrug again
C. all religion & spirituality is man-made. It's something that can't be proven and something people believe in blindly. Ergo, delusion. Admittedly, a better term here would probably be "societal construct". But I'm not in the mood to think it through much more.
and before anyone tries to argue with me over religion & spirituality. I love anthropology, and i love the history of religion and its importance to humanity, and i know that religion has a long and complicated history, but that does not mean that i believe in it or even like it.
D. lastly, Im delusional you loser. I deserve $50 for reading that bullshit alone.
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