#i hate what c.2018 mcu fandom made him into
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fizz-pop-thwip · 9 months ago
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Me when I get forced out of consuming spider-man fan content because its ALL tainted TO THIS DAY by all the ppl who thinks he acts like "m-m-m-mister stark im scared 🥺🥺" and even for Peter outside of the MCU fandom, the fanon MCU peter effect bleeds onto them too
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cblgblog · 5 years ago
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The infantilization of Bucky Barnes amongst certain corners of fandom disturbs me greatly, especially in a post Endgame world.
“But Steve left Bucky all alone!”
Not really. A, he came back 10 seconds later, B, it’s confirmed by the creatives that Bucky knew what Steve was planning and supported the choice, and C, no, Bucky wasn’t left alone. He was left with T’Challa and Shuri, who he’s frankly probably spent more time with than he has Steve in recent years. He was left with Sam, who’s actual job it is to help support veterans and PTSD victims. He was left with a support system.
And you know what else? He’s a strong man, who is healing. I know that sucks for everyone who wants to see their fanfics made real (Bucky being unable to operate a microwave on his own, or walk 6 feet without Steve supporting him or vice-versa), but it’s true. Bucky is healing. Is he healed completely? No, and he probably never will be. Neither will Steve or Sam or anyone. Sam says it in Winter Soldier. The trauma doesn’t magically disappear, you just learn to cope with it as best you can. What was Steve supposed to do? Sacrifice any other wants and desires he might have had for the rest of his life, so he could be Bucky’s emotional support dog until Bucky was all the way better? Something that was never, ever going to happen, because that’s just not how trauma works? Steve’s not allowed to care about anyone or anything else besides Bucky, because that’s clearly how all human beings work?
Why is Bucky’s trauma more important than Steve’s? Why are Bucky’s needs (needs he doesn’t even have outside of fanfiction) prioritized over Steve’s?
Speaking of needs he doesn’t even have outside fic. Bucky can function without Steve. Which I guess is offensive to some people, but it’s true. 2014 was when he started coming back to himself. He fished Steve out of the river, and left. As his memories returned and he started to stabilize, he had to know Steve was going to look for him, or at least suspect. He hid from everyone, including Steve, for 2 more years, and he was doing pretty damn well. He wasn’t a blubbering mess, his apartment was prepped for a quick escape, which means he was thinking clearly about at least some things. He was able to go outside, function like a normal person. Had he needed Steve that badly, he could have contacted him somehow. He’s incredibly well-trained, was even before Hydra grabbed him, and the Avengers aren’t exactly a secretive operation. They especially weren’t in a pre-Civil War MCU.
But the shame, the guilt, Bucky must’ve thought Steve would hate him! Maybe, even though Steve is ready to let himself die in WS just to prove that he believes in Bucky, trusts him. But, maybe. But them, Civil War. Civil War proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Steve blames Bucky for absolutely nothing. Does Bucky immediately attach himself to Steve’s hip, because Steve is the only one who can possibly save him?
No. He goes to Wakanda, because they both recognize that T’Challa and Co. are in a better position to treat Bucky, especially now, when Steve’s a wanted man. Steve asks Bucky if he’s sure about this. Bucky says it’s the best thing for everybody, until he can trust his own mind. This wasn’t forced on Bucky. Steve asking if he’s sure is proof he wouldn’t have allowed it to be done without Bucky’s consent. We don’t know how long Bucky was completely under for, but it’s said by the creatives that Steve did visit Wakanda between CW and IW, during Bucky’s recovery.
Steve visited. He was not holding Bucky’s hand every second of the day for two years.
2014 to 2018. 2 years of no contact with Steve, maybe even actively avoiding him. 2 years of intermittent contact, at best.
Bucky can survive without Steve. He did it for several years before Endgame, mostly by his own choice. Bucky understands better than most of his fandom that Steve is not capable of “fixing” Bucky all on his own. It is not Steve’s job to do that, either. It’s his job to be a supportive friend, and do everything he can reasonably do to help, which he more than lived up to, for two movies in a row.
Bucky got to choose how he lived his life post WS. His choices were limited by his circumstances, but ultimately, he chose more than once to live without Steve as a crutch. And he did it well.
Steve did not abandon Bucky. He told Bucky what he was doing, and yes, maybe that should have been in the film, but the creatives were clearly looking to leave us guessing until the end about the movie’s conclusion. Bucky still knew. He did not ask Steve to stay behind with him, just as he did not ask Steve to hang around for 2 years in Wakanda with him while the rest of Team Cap went on without him.
But, but, the end of the line! What about the end of the goddamn line!
So, if a friend says that they will always be there for you, that you will always be friends, are you going to throw a fit if they then, years later, get married and move away? Is that friend literally meant to stay by your side until one of you dies? Neither of you can move to a new location, or form meaningful relationships outside of each other? That’s not a healthy relationship, that’s co-dependency taken to frightening levels.
Bucky loves Steve. Steve loves Bucky. That doesn’t mean that Steve’s only function in life is to heal poor, wounded Bucky. Bucky is neither of those things. Bucky has proven again and again that he can live without Steve holding his hand and wiping his man tears. Bucky is not a broken toy for Steve to fix. Bucky is a capable adult man who loves Steve and wants him to be happy.
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morifinwes · 4 years ago
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hi laura!! sorry this is a bit late i barely survived finals week :’) i just woke up after sleeping for like 18 hrs after my last exam fjdns
oooo yes i love yanqing too!! they’re my fav ship apart from wangxian (also jc/lwj w h a t why would anyone do that o.O)
halsey!!!! i love her sm i’ve followed her from the time she released badlands (i was such an emo kid istg that album was everything to me) omg your music taste is so similar to mine wtf??? the other side by ruelle AND mystery of love AND folklore ur taste is exquisite. i’ll check out the other songs i’m sure i’ll like them! (also based on your music taste i recommend u listen to the loch ness monster by matilda mann 10/10 would recommend)
okay today’s questions!
🎀 since i asked about non-canon ships last time, what is your favourite fic you’ve ever read in the mdzs fandom? or a favourite trope?
🎀 tell me about your favourite show(s)/movies other than cql/mdzs! i need something to binge watch over winter break hehe
hope you’re doing well! it’s getting cold where i live so if it’s the same where you live i hope you’re staying warm >.< now that i’m free i will try to send asks more often! - 🍵
hey c!! don't worry, you have to take care of yourself, i'm glad that you finally have more time for yourself too!
sleeping 18 hours after being stressed is valid, after a panick attack i once slept like 16 hours simply because i was extremely exhausted.
i listened to the song and it's!!! so good!! i really like this part of the song: now you've faded, / with no traces, /so who could ever tell. / what you've taken's, / been misplaced / but your name doesn't ring any bells, / since the day that they took you to hell.
halsey is!!! i remember hearing badlands when it came out but i only really got into her mid 2018? i listened to hopeless fountain kingdom then and realized that badlands and hfk where both from the same person!! folklore is @/keepyourlife's fault, annika reblogged a bunch of things and just went crazy over it, so i listened to it. i don't listen to much else from taylor, i like getaway car a lot tho tbh. i saw mystery of love in a wangxian edit on youtube and went !!!!!! over that song, so now i'm obsessed with it.
1. i've got a bunch of favorite fics but _none of them are finished _and ajdkskks i do have some that are finished but i can't remember for the life of me what they're called. so here are five of my favorites: love, in fire and blood by cicer (which i'm recommending to all of my mutuals always) which is a 212K wip of immortal/yp!wwx + war prize au with no rpe/noncon but in the first two chapters lwj is afraid of that happening. it doesn't. then there is this time/universe/dimension travel fic called a song to bring you home by neoserenity, where basically canon!lwj who mourns wwx meets a modern!sick wwx and apparently there is no modern equivalent of lwj? or at least wwx doesn't seem to know one. the updates are sparse but i reread this so often in hopes that updates will appear. an arrow through time by syrus_jones is a young!lwj time traveling to post canon mdzs and pining after "husband" and wwx at the same time and feeling guilty over it bcs he doesn't know wwx is "husband" and then there is the murder of crows by cerbykerby which is a yilingwei sect au. here is a modern office au: hello, IT. have you tried turning it off and on again?* **by overmountainandmeadow, which us just really funny so i've been reading this for stress relief. i actually quote like time travel aus? also just wangxian meeting other versions of themselves is fun!! i have a bunch of modern college au tabs open but i don't actually seek them out, if i see one and like the plot then i'll read it. there are a lot of good time travel aus in this fandom!! also i like it when people get wangxian together earlier than in canon, it's just really fun to see how that would go. i don't remember the name but i think there was one fic where lwj tried to flirt with wwx and wwx just didn't notice? until somebody pointed it out to him i think? that was fun to read because lwj was just so frustrated!!
2. i feel like i forget what shows i watched after i watched them? movies too, though i like to stick to rewatching movies i already know. but here are some shows: dark on netflix, if you have netflix it should be there, it's a german netflix show about time travel and fate and things being really fucked up. basically there is this endless loop of the world apocalypse happening in 2019? 2020? i'm not that sure of the timeline rn but it's either 2019 or 2020!! and jonas, the male lead, wants to prevent it but this shit gets complicated because this is a time loop, everything he has done has been done before him. there are some really great quotes in the show about things, there is a wangxian gifset that actually uses a quote from dark, and that's the one about having three deaths. (i'll probably add a link to the gifset when i find it) also martha, the female lead, seems not that important in the first season but don't be fooled by that. the ending is.... complex and cool and holy shit there is still one thing we don't know and ahdkksks it's a surprise tho so 👀��. i recommend watching it in german if possible and with subtitles. i've watched a few scenes in english and idk the voice actors don't seen to fit, but i don't know about other languages. the 100 is also a pretty good show but it's.... it has queerbaiting. and to be honest, the queerbaiting is probably the only reason the show made it to a seventh season. lexa, a lesbian, dies and they use her death for the queerbaiting since she gets together with clarke, the lead character. clarke is a character that gets a lot of hate from both fandom and the characters, a lot of unfair hate if you ask me. she has to do a lot of decisions that are just not meant to be for a single human being, @/solntserises and i and a lot of arguements over placing the blame on her or placing the blame on society and the situation itself. clarke basically does what she needs to do, what she needs to do in order to protect her people, her friends, her family. she often just doesn't have good options, and if she has then she deems the risk too high or something too good to be true (which, she often is right about???). after s1 her friends push her into situations where she has to make the hard choice, but if it doesn't work out how they want it to work out they get mad at her. which is not fair. i remember hearing that raven finally understands what clarke goes through in s7? but i haven't watched the season. i gave up the moment lexa died and didn't want to watch past it, but when @/solntserises started we watched the other seasons together.
there is also shadowhunters which is an okay show ig, i've watched vikings until s5 too and i quite liked it, prison break has a lot of cool stuff to offer but i'd be careful watching it in case of any triggers you might have. i don't remember 100% of the plot but enough to say that one of the characters is a pervert and an awful person, so lots of murder, a lot of blood and yeah. the two main characters are brothers and mostly innocent in this but yeah. they break out of a prison y'know.
lucifer is !!! i think it goes after dc comics? so ig it's somehow part of the dceu but they're like.... never mentioned so idk. it's really fun tho!! you probably have heard from the vampire diaries right? yeah well, there is a spin off called the origianls and it's actually really good. it had some times where i was going to call it off but it's fine, legacies is both tvd's and to's spinoff and from the quality it can't really compare, it's still fun to watch and seeing the new generation grow up. (also a lot more canon gays)
for some movies: i don't really watch many but i've watched every movie in the mcu so far, i have the extended special editions for both the lord of the rings and the hobbit trilogy, the half of it is about ellie chu, an asian girl living in a small town with her depressed dad and falling in love with aster flores, and just.... finding herself, finding out what she wants, who she is and trying to figure out where life takes her. the movie is great!! the romance process is really slow and not that much of the main focus, but more of ellie finding her place in the world? the old guard is a fantastic movie that i watched because of @/keiraknigthly, it's really fun to watch!!
i look forward to talking to you more often!! 🥰💞
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