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The Sixth Sorrow ; Retrieval of the Body of Christ ; Pieta [x]
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Jamie and Ruby broke up in October or November 2020 and Jess took advantage of Jamie's sadness and vulnerability (about his breakup with Ruby), so that he noticed her on IG, to come into her life, she's been stalking Jamie for years and almost everyone noticed, so stop defending her, it's obvious she's shady, she's using Jamie's career to draw attention to herself (it shows in her photos that she posts of her and him on IG, that she is fake with him and Ruby was more sincere with him when they were together), she uses him as a wallet and for her fame and nothing else, everyone is interested in her and likes her because she is Jamie's girlfriend and nothing else.
She says she works in management at a celebrity company, but she allowed herself to leave her company and probably let her coworkers do her job for a year and a half, while she traveled and attended all the conventions, events and others of Jamie and it is not normal for a co-founder to do what she did and she was present 24/24-7/7 with him for her own interest, so that she becomes famous (in fact it worked her followers increased on IG and people wanted to take photos with her and she looked fake to them) and it wasn't in support of Jamie that she was there.
Weirdly Jess lost a lot of followers on IG, because Jamie is not with her at the moment, so no one is interested in her anymore, she noticed that she lost followers, so she is doing everything to get them back by liking and commenting on Jamie's posts, for example all last week she was liking and commenting (her comments were ridiculous, she looks more like a fan than her girlfriend commenting), so now she's using Jamie's IG posts (there were people who liked her stupid comments), so that people wouldn't forget her and to get her followers back.
This woman is toxic and manipulative to him, she does not respect and has never respected his sobriety and she does not support Jamie's sobriety since she drinks next to him, he will start drinking again and relapse because of 'her and it's sad for him after all the work he put in to heal.
At the time when he was with Ruby, she respected and supported him his sobriety, I don't know if she drank or not but even if she did it wasn't next to him or she never posted it when she was drinking on IG out of respect for him.
Well, first of all:
This is already long from the ask alone lol. I’m gonna put a read more, sorry in advance.
I don’t know how many times I have to say WE DONT ACTUALLY KNOW the events surrounding Jamie breaking up with Ruby and getting with Jess. The idea that she swooped in and took advantage of him is purely conjecture.
If you want to believe that Jess preyed on Jamie’s vulnerability after his break up with Ruby, you’re free to do so. But no one can say that that is definitely what happened. We have zero insight into what their early relationship even looked like and who made the first move.
And Jess existed in the fashion world independently of Jamie before they got together. It is not out of the realm of possibility that they had met prior (that one event they were both photographed at when Jamie was with Matilda) and maintained some sort of acquaintance until they ultimately started dating. People break up, and people go on to date people they’ve known for years. That’s not a red flag. To me, if Jess really wanted Jamie after meeting him at that 2015 event, wouldn’t she have gone in for the kill when he broke up with Matilda, or broke up with Lily again? Why even give him time to start dating and wait until he broke up Ruby if she was that conniving and manipulative?
If someone somehow finds out that she did stalk him and plot this plan to get with him, then cool. Then we’d know, we’d have the full story and I’d probably change my tune. But as for now, we don’t know, and I don’t see us finding out anytime soon. So it’s not admissible evidence in the case against Jess.
As for her management company, I don’t believe she’s done anything with that for years anyway. I think you’re talking about Ice Studios, which she is a co-owner of. Is it clear exactly what she does as a co-owner? No. I do agree that’s weird. But in my opinion, I just don’t think it matters. I’ve known many CEO-type people of companies not have active roles in their businesses.
The Instagram followers, I guess I’m just not sure how that matters in terms of why Jess is bad? I mean Jamie’s follower count has also gone down? Is he also losing fame? Even if she was gaining followers for traveling with Jamie…okay? That’s just sort of how social media and celebrities work. People gain and lose interest pretty superficially. And to the fans taking pics with Jess, I mean that’s also kind of on the fans. It’s not like she asked Jamie’s fan to take a picture with her. The fans wanted to take pictures with her, that’s not Jess’s problem or on her to be like “no, sorry, I’m not famous enough”.
And again, the thing with Jess and her drinking/disrespecting Jamie’s sobriety, that’s also complete conjecture. As two adults in a relationship, it’s probable that they have discussed his triggers and boundaries involving alcohol. It’s not like Jamie has NEVER been around people drinking since he got sober. He’s a big boy, he can handle his own sobriety however he sees fit and let people around him know what is and is not okay. Like it’s a pretty big conclusion to jump to without the nuance and deeper context that we just don’t have. I also think it’s just kind of ridiculous to say that it’s toxic of her to post herself drinking on her own social media, when not even with Jamie. As if Jamie wouldn’t potentially scroll past literally anyone else on his feed drinking at any given moment, you know?
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Voilà, here I am !
Hjdhjfhf I was so happy to receive my notification, I wasn't expecting it until next week, I read that you were sick (are you feeling better ?)
Last night alcohol and tiredness got the better of me and I admit I can't remember everything, so here goes the live reaction while I'm re-reading !
First, surfing, I love the idea ? Hanma in a wetsuit I 😍 ... ok, let's focus again.
Our girl is so cute, supporting, applauding and feeding our favorite psychopath playing in the waves, like a devoted babysitter.
"Even a broken clock is right twice". That's it. I think I've said this before, but it's in simple little lines like this that the cleverness of your writing is most apparent. I can't explain why, but I'm blown away every time. You really have this style... idk, it's just smart, sorry I wish I had more words to define it.
"He's glad he resisted crushing all that good health to nothing today." Hm ok, thanks Shuji-baby for not killing us today ig 👉🏻👈🏻 ? (The fries in the milkshake is a big no though. Red flag.)
The euphemisms in the recommendation. This little moment of complicity, I live for it ok ?
AAAAAAAAH DARK MITSUYA I'M DYING !! Seriously, I'm thinking of proposing to the person who will one day write about a not-so-good-Mitsuya (writers here, this is a cry from the heart !)
My goodness. My post is getting really long, I'm getting embarrassing.
The way Hanma narrates the murder, methodical, organized, cold. I got chills, if I were her I would have been fucking terrified.
You know what I love most about your heroines? It's that she (God I'm sorry, I don't remember if she has a name or not) and Yasuko are not bad bitches, they are simple, random girls and yet, that doesn't stop them from being sure of themselves and their desires in front of men who are more than intimidating. I could never. I mean, it took me nine fucking years to be open about it with my boyfriend ??? (Yeah.. maybe I'm the problem 🫠).
"Yeah, yeah, I want to go dancing with you," naaaaah she is so cute !!
"He could just eat you up." YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD SIR 🫡
Ok, I'm at the smut point and I'm going to repeat myself again but you are one of the last authors who can make me blush. WELCOME TO THE CLUB yeah I remember last night stomping my feet on my bed lol
That's it, I'm done bothering you now. I loved every part of this chapter and I would have so much more to say but I'm getting tired of my own self so I'll just say thank you and tell you again that it's always a fucking pleasure to read you. See you 🥰
the RE-read? gosh i am so spoiled by you. i do not deserve it!
hanma in a wetsuit! you are so right for this. someone should draw it fr
i enjoyed the little mitsuya drop there. he would be feral about his sisters & i'd read too haha.
one of the weird things about this chapter is that hanma's now in a great mood, he's happy, he's chill, but he's still so dangerous. you really nailed it when you said reader is babysitting her favorite psychopath. he can be happy and thinking about how he almost killed the instructor - he probably wouldn't have killed reader - and he can cheerfully recount murder. reader's past being too scared though, no matter how chilling, because she saw him gouge that guy's eyeball out once. they are past it lol
i am really really flattered by your comment about this reader and yasuko in dgm!! yes, they are not bad bitches because what kind of power / confidence / authority would even mean anything in the context of these dangerous murderers? and i like the contrast between those two characters. yasuko is def more sure of her desires, but less strongwilled, while this reader actually really struggles with recognizing or pursuing what she wants but is a concrete wall when it comes to what she DOESN'T want and i respect it. anyway ty that's really nice
& thank you for stomping your feet at the smut 😆 i felt like i rushed it, so good to know it has the stamp of approval >> i will see myself out for that pun
your comments are always such a joy to read and they provide not only great insight into what is landing with readers but also great motivation to continue, so thank you sincerely for this ��💖
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UK Far Right activist circumvents Facebook ban to livestream threats
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, a Far Right UK activist who was permanently banned from Facebook last week for repeatedly breaching its community standards on hate speech, was nonetheless able to use its platform to livestream harassment of an anti-fascist blogger whom he doorstepped at home last night.
UK-based blogger Mike Stuchbery detailed the intimidating incident in a series of tweets earlier today, writing that Yaxley-Lennon appeared to have used a friend’s Facebook account to circumvent the ban on his own Facebook and Instagram pages.
I've spent the last few months documenting how 'Tommy Robinson’ uses doorstepping to intimidate his critics, and how social media giants have enabled it.
So what does he do? Turns up at my house tonight. 1/ pic.twitter.com/NBB4B636eY
— Mike Stuchbery
(@MikeStuchbery_) March 5, 2019
In recent years Yaxley-Lennon, who goes by the moniker ‘Tommy Robinson’ on social media, has used online platforms to raise his profile and solicit donations to fund Far Right activism.
He has also, in the case of Facebook and Twitter, fallen foul of mainstream tech platforms’ community standards which prohibit use of their tools for hate speech and intimidation. Earning himself a couple of bans. (At the time of writing Yaxley-Lennon has not been banned from Google-owned YouTube .)
Though circumventing Facebook’s ban appears to have been trivially easy for Yaxley-Lennon, who, as well as selling himself as a Far Right activist called “Tommy Robinson”, previously co-founded the Islamophobic Far Right pressure group, the English Defence League.
Giving an account of being doorstepped by Yaxley-Lennon in today’s Independent, Stuchbery writes: “The first we knew of it was a loud, frantic rapping on my door at around quarter to 11 [in the evening]… That’s when notifications began to buzz on my phone — message requests on Facebook pouring in, full of abuse and vitriol. “Tommy” was obviously livestreaming his visit, using a friend’s Facebook account to circumvent his ban, and had tipped off his fans.”
A repost (to YouTube) of what appears to be a Facebook Live stream of the incident corroborates Stuchbery’s account, showing Yaxley-Lennon outside a house at night where can be seen shouting for “Mike” to come out and banging on doors and/or windows.
At another point in the same video Yaxley-Lennon can be seen walking away when he spots a passerby and engages them in conversation. During this portion of the video Yaxley-Lennon publicly reveals Stuchbery’s address — a harassment tactic that’s known as doxxing.
He can also be heard making insinuating remarks to the unidentified passerby about what he claims are Stuchbery’s “wrong” sexual interests.
In another tweet today Stuchbery describes the remarks are defamatory, adding that he now intends to sue Yaxley-Lennon.
A couple of things: First, let me assure you, I take my reputation very, very seriously. For 'Tommy’ to call me a paedophile is defamatory in the extreme. We've got it on video. See you in court, 'Tommy’. /9
— Mike Stuchbery
(@MikeStuchbery_) March 5, 2019
Stuchbery has also posted several screengrabs to Twitter, showing a number of Facebook users who he is not connected to sending him abusive messages — presumably during the livestream.
During the video Yaxley-Lennon can also be heard making threats to return, saying: “Mike Stuchbery. See you soon mate, because I’m coming back and back and back and back.”
At the same time, messages came flooding in via social media. Despite being banned by Facebook, he was using a mate's account to stream – and the abuse came flooding in. /5 pic.twitter.com/doyzinSewO
— Mike Stuchbery
(@MikeStuchbery_) March 5, 2019
In a second livestream, also later reposted to YouTube, Yaxley-Lennon can be heard apparently having returned a second time to Stuchbery’s house, now at around 5am, to cause further disturbance.
Stuchbery writes that he called the police to report both visits. In another tweet he says they “eventually talked ‘Tommy’ into leaving, but not before he gave my full address, threatened to come back tomorrow, in addition to making a documentary ‘exposing me'”.
I called the police – who wouldn't? They came and eventually talked 'Tommy’ into leaving, but not before he gave my full address, threatened to come back tomorrow, in addition to making a documentary 'exposing me’. /7
— Mike Stuchbery
(@MikeStuchbery_) March 5, 2019
We reached out to Bedfordshire Police to ask what it could confirm about the incidents at Stuchbery’s house and the force’s press office told us it had received a number of enquiries about the matter. A spokeswoman added that it would be issuing a statement later today. We’ll update this post when we have it.
Update: Bedfordshire Police have now sent the following statement regarding the incidents:
We were called to reports of a man causing a disturbance outside a house in Spurcroft, Luton at around 10.52pm on Monday (4 March) and again at around 5:21am on Tuesday (5 March). Officers attended and we are now establishing the circumstances around both incidents so we can determine whether any offences have been committed.
Stuchbery also passed us details of the account he believes was used to livestream the harassment — suggesting it’s linked to another Far Right activist, known by the moniker ‘Danny Tommo’, who was also banned by Facebook last week.
Though the Facebook account in question was using a different moniker — ‘Jack Dawkins’. This suggests, if the account did indeed belong to the same banned Far Right activist, he was also easily able to circumvent Facebook’s ban by creating a new account with a different (fake) name and email.
We passed the details of the ‘Jack Dawkins’ account to Facebook and since then the company appears to have suspended the account. (A message posted to it earlier today claimed it had been hacked.)
The fact of Yaxley-Lennon being able to use Facebook to livestream harassment a few days after he was banned underlines quite how porous Facebook’s platform remains for organized purveyors of hate and harassment. Studies of Facebook’s platform have previously suggested as much.
Which makes high profile ‘Facebook bans’ of hate speech activists mostly a crisis PR exercise for the company. And indeed easy PR for Far Right activists who have been quick to seize on and trumpet social media bans as ‘evidence’ of mainstream censorship of their point of view — liberally ripping from the playbook of US hate speech peddlers, such as the (also ‘banned’) InfoWars conspiracy theorist Alex Jones. Such as by posting pictures of themselves with their mouths gagged with tape.
Such images are intended to make meme-able messages for their followers to share. But the reality for social media savvy hate speech activists like Jones and Yaxley-Lennon looks nothing like censorship — given how demonstrably easy it remains for them to circumvent platform bans and carry on campaigns of hate and harassment via mainstream platforms.
We reached out to Facebook for a response to Yaxley-Lennon’s use of its livestreaming platform to harass Stuchbery, and to ask how it intends to prevent banned Far Right activists from circumventing bans and carrying on making use of its platform.
The company declined to make a public statement, though it did confirm the livestream had been flagged as violating its community standards last night and was removed afterwards. It also said it had deleted one post by a user for bullying. It added that it has content and safety teams which work around the clock to monitor Live videos flagged for review by Facebook users.
It did not confirm how long Yaxley-Lennon’s livestream was visible on its platform.
Stuchbery, a former history teacher, has garnered attention online writing about how Far Right groups have been using social media to organize and crowdfund ‘direct action’ in the offline world, including by targeting immigrants, Muslims, politicians and journalists in the street or on their own doorsteps.
But the trigger for Stuchbery being personally targeted by Yaxley-Lennon appears to be a legal letter served to the latter’s family home at the weekend informing him he’s being sued for defamation.
Stuchbery has been involved in raising awareness about the legal action, including promoting a crowdjustice campaign to raise funds for the suit.
The litigation relates to allegations Yaxley-Lennon made online late last year about a 15-year-old Syrian refugee schoolboy called Jamal who was shown in a video that went viral being violently bullied by white pupils at his school in Northern England.
Yaxley-Lennon responded to the viral video by posting a vlog to social media in which he makes a series of allegations about Jamal. The schoolboy’s family have described the allegations as defamatory. And the crowdjustice campaign promoted by Stuchbery has since raised more than £10,000 to sue Yaxley-Lennon.
The legal team pursuing the defamation litigation has also written that it intends to explore “routes by which the social media platforms that provide a means of dissemination to Lennon can also be attached to this action”.
The video of Yaxley-Lennon making claims about Jamal can still be found on YouTube. As indeed can Yaxley-Lennon’s own channel — despite equivalent pages having been removed from Facebook and Twitter (the latter pulled the plug on Yaxley-Lennon’s account a year ago).
We asked YouTube why it continues to provide a platform for Yaxley-Lennon to amplify hate speech and solicit donations for campaigns of targeted harassment but the company declined to comment publicly on the matter.
It did point out it demonetized Yaxley-Lennon’s channel last month, having determined it breaches its advertising policies.
YouTube also told us that it removes any video content that violates its hate speech policies — which do prohibit the incitement of violence or hatred against members of a religious community.
But by ignoring the wider context here — i.e. Yaxley-Lennon’s activity as a Far Right activist — and allowing him to continue broadcasting on its platform YouTube is leaving the door open for dog whistle tactics to be used to signal to and stir up ‘in the know’ followers — as was the case with another Internet savvy operator, InfoWars’ Alex Jones (until YouTube eventually terminated his channel last year).
Until last week Facebook was also ignoring the wider context around Yaxley-Lennon’s Far Right activism — a decision that likely helped him reach a wider audience than he would otherwise have been able to. So now Facebook has another full-blown hate speech ‘influencer’ going rogue on its platform and being cheered by an audience of followers its tools helped amass.
There is, surely, a lesson here.
Yet it’s also clear mainstream platforms are unwilling to pro-actively and voluntarily adapt their rules to close down malicious users who seek to weaponize social media tools to spread hate and sew division via amplified harassment.
But if platforms won’t do it, it’ll be left to governments to curb social media’s antisocial impacts with regulation.
And in the UK there is now no shortage of appetite to try; the government has a White Paper on social media and safety coming this winter. While the official opposition has said it wants to create a new regulator to rein in online platforms and even look at breaking up tech giants. So watch this space.
Public attitudes to (anti)social media have certainly soured — and with livestreams of hate and harassment it’s little wonder.
“Perhaps the worst thing, in the cold light of day, is the near certainty that the “content” “Tommy” produced during his stunt will now be used as a fundraising tool,” writes Stuchbery, concluding his account of being on the receiving end of a Facebook Live spewing hate and harassment. “If you dare to call him out on his cavalcade of hate, he usually tries to monetize you. It is a cruel twist.
“But most of all, I wonder how we got in this mess. I wonder how we got to a place where those who try to speak out against hatred and those who peddle it are threatened at their homes. I despair at how social media has become a weapon wielded by some, seemingly with impunity, to silence.”
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